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Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:10:20 PM EDT
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]Then there's reality?
You think it's possible?
No fucking way any US President allows that big of a chunk of Prosperous soil to leave.

 
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]Then there's reality?
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No fucking way any US President allows that big of a chunk of Prosperous soil to leave.

 

im sure he will put something together quick if we try to leave






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Texas is as much a welfare state as Florida, so that will never happen...



Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:10:39 PM EDT
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Poll fail. No option for throwing Jerry Jones out.
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Fair enough

I have no idea what I would vote for on this one.   As a Brit I don;t really know enough about Texas and it;s relationship with the rest of the US to be able to make any sort of call on this.

I do know that secession has been mentioned before, but this is GD.
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IBTP....but I woiuld imagine that if this were conducted in the same manner as the Scottish Vote, only Texas residents could vote.


I know that's how the Scotland vote is working, but since this is a GD thread I figured I would let everyone vote.  



Except the Mexicans.  




Fair enough

I have no idea what I would vote for on this one.   As a Brit I don;t really know enough about Texas and it;s relationship with the rest of the US to be able to make any sort of call on this.

I do know that secession has been mentioned before, but this is GD.


They're a bunch of arrogant pricks and no one really likes them. They're like a rich asshole uncle that you keep in contact with in case you need something, sooo..we keep them around.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:17:01 PM EDT
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Yeahh, no.  Put  'em on a bus, drop 'em at the Oklahoma border, give'em a bottle of water and tin of sardines.  Your problem now, Yankee.  
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The only issue with this is the border issue.  Texas will get overrun so bad.
Yeahh, no.  Put  'em on a bus, drop 'em at the Oklahoma border, give'em a bottle of water and tin of sardines.  Your problem now, Yankee.  


That sounds like a terrible idea.

How about we secede as well and we can drop them off at the Kansas border?
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:22:45 PM EDT
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A thread, with a poll, indicating that a majority of texans and non texans alike no longer want Texas to be part of the US... And it turns into a Texas is awesome circle jerk fest...



You guys crack me up.  Seriously.  I
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What was that?  You trailed off....
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:25:18 PM EDT
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If Texas secedes, can Texan-born US Citizens living in other states get at least dual-residency? A "right of return" to the Freedom promise land (some sarcasm included free of charge)?
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Yes
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:28:35 PM EDT
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How'd that whole secession thing work out last time?
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Texans suck but I would rather that California secede.  Then let some other state (Virginia?) form two states to keep us at 50 states.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:30:17 PM EDT
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Secession?

I've know many Texans and they're not the type to flee from trouble.

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Already did that too.  See Johnson, Lyndon and Bush, George W.
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What was that?  You trailed off....
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You guys crack me up.  Seriously.  I



What was that?  You trailed off....


He finished early.  

Hopefully his refractory period is over soon and he can come back and finish the thought.  



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Already did that too.  See Johnson, Lyndon and Bush, George W.
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Secession?

I've know many Texans and they're not the type to flee from trouble.

A better question would be to see if they would lead a take-over of the federal government!

Already did that too.  See Johnson, Lyndon and Bush, George W.


Yeah, our bad on that one.

Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:33:28 PM EDT
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Texans suck but I would rather that California secede.  Then let some other state (Virginia?) form two states to keep us at 50 states.
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How'd that whole secession thing work out last time?


Texans suck but I would rather that California secede.  Then let some other state (Virginia?) form two states to keep us at 50 states.



Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:35:44 PM EDT
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secede and let me in.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:36:42 PM EDT
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantex

Pantex.  It's a game changea.

Also what percentage of the oil refining capacity in the US resides in TX?
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:40:51 PM EDT
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Texans suck but I would rather that California secede.  Then let some other state (Virginia?) form two states to keep us at 50 states.
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Texans suck but I would rather that California secede.  Then let some other state (Virginia?) form two states to keep us at 50 states.


The Peoples Republic of Northern Virginia Southern Maryland?? We wouldnt allow them to keep the name.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:40:52 PM EDT
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If Texas secedes, I'd pack up my Jeep and head there right away.
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What does the US do about all the .mil equipment left behind at places like FT Hood?

Are there any naval bases in TX? I suppose Port Houston could serve in a pinch.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:44:00 PM EDT
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I think there's a NAS in Corpus.

Maybe we could get the Lexington and Texas back into working shape to start the Navy.  
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:48:35 PM EDT
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Independent Texans, I give to you your inaugural Ministers of Defense and Homeland Security



Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:52:58 PM EDT
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They're a bunch of arrogant pricks true Americans and no one really likes them (because nobody really has any kind of rebuttal for them not to be as arrogant as they are since they have a certain honesty that you dont really find in other parts of the country). They're like a rich asshole uncle with good underlying values that you keep in contact with in case you need something, sooo..we keep them around.
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IBTP....but I woiuld imagine that if this were conducted in the same manner as the Scottish Vote, only Texas residents could vote.


I know that's how the Scotland vote is working, but since this is a GD thread I figured I would let everyone vote.  



Except the Mexicans.  




Fair enough

I have no idea what I would vote for on this one.   As a Brit I don;t really know enough about Texas and it;s relationship with the rest of the US to be able to make any sort of call on this.

I do know that secession has been mentioned before, but this is GD.


They're a bunch of arrogant pricks true Americans and no one really likes them (because nobody really has any kind of rebuttal for them not to be as arrogant as they are since they have a certain honesty that you dont really find in other parts of the country). They're like a rich asshole uncle with good underlying values that you keep in contact with in case you need something, sooo..we keep them around.

fify


Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:53:43 PM EDT
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From the North would be my guess.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:55:32 PM EDT
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I think Texas could do very well without any more of Don Sambino's "protection" of production or infrastructure or goods for awhile.

And what makes you think Texas can't handle defense of it's borders?  Texas has much of the necessary infrastructure to build ALOT of it's own hardware.

You list some problems, but none seem as insurmountable as you make them out to be.   And you say nothing of the problems faced by the USA if the USA were to be a dickbutt and try to economically isolate Texas.
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  So your national defense, currency, foreign affairs, protection of goods in foreign markets, protection of production and IP, infrastructure, water rights, etc... are all done by the State?

Sure, you send out more money than you get back in taxes but the Fed does a lot that the State doesn't do. If Texas became an independent nation it will find out it isn't easy in the world.


I think Texas could do very well without any more of Don Sambino's "protection" of production or infrastructure or goods for awhile.

And what makes you think Texas can't handle defense of it's borders?  Texas has much of the necessary infrastructure to build ALOT of it's own hardware.

You list some problems, but none seem as insurmountable as you make them out to be.   And you say nothing of the problems faced by the USA if the USA were to be a dickbutt and try to economically isolate Texas.


And what currency would Texas be using again?  How are you getting loans?
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From the North would be my guess.
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The only issue with this is the border issue.  Texas will get overrun so bad.


From the North would be my guess.

I think it would be from both North and South.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:58:34 PM EDT
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I'd vote Texas out if only to crack the Federal government's power by a little bit.

Our country would be running considerably better if the states had more power and the intent of the 10th Amendment was actually being followed.  Why the Federal government has anything other than a 50,000 foot view of healthcare, welfare and education is beyond me.  I could probably make a longer list but you get my point.

I would be 100% ok with California living their dreams and becoming a pure socialist state in every sense of the word as long as North Dakota was free to be a pure capitalist state.  People would vote with their feet and the best ideology would succeed.  

So yeah, the more individual state lash out and challenge the federal government, the better.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 4:59:07 PM EDT
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Guess I'm not really voting to kick Texas out......but I think the divorce that this country needs is long overdue. The Feds are too big, the NE and California are too fucked up.

I would vote Eject if given the chance.
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Secede and I'll move to Texas.
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Count me in.
So far as "defence", real defence as intended by our forefathers is not that expensive.  Of course the first line of defence of any nation should be it's border security. Much of that fence can be built with free prison/illegal criminal labor now.
Defence should also mimic the Swiss, requiring a common caliber military defence rifle in every home and national holidays/range days. The whole idea is to maintain independence and make neutrality the foremost policy.
A low tax rate would attract "international" (US) business. I think there will be a long waiting lists for law abiding and skilled professionals wanting to escape to freedom from the former United States. Background checks will be mandatory for new immigrants as should be in any country.
Would the US federal government allow it's own people their freedom after talking the talk in places like Ukraine? Or would they use an iron fist on "rebels" as in the past? I could see them for the first time building a wall to hold people in on the "wrong side" to stop the tax revenue and brain drain for those wanting to leave for the new republic.



It will be interesting when it happens...not, if, when.





 
 
 
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They're a bunch of arrogant pricks and no one really likes them. They're like a rich asshole uncle that you keep in contact with in case you need something, sooo..we keep them around.
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IBTP....but I woiuld imagine that if this were conducted in the same manner as the Scottish Vote, only Texas residents could vote.


I know that's how the Scotland vote is working, but since this is a GD thread I figured I would let everyone vote.  



Except the Mexicans.  




Fair enough

I have no idea what I would vote for on this one.   As a Brit I don;t really know enough about Texas and it;s relationship with the rest of the US to be able to make any sort of call on this.

I do know that secession has been mentioned before, but this is GD.


They're a bunch of arrogant pricks and no one really likes them. They're like a rich asshole uncle that you keep in contact with in case you need something, sooo..we keep them around.


Please, feel free to cut us loose to save yourself from our prickery.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 5:02:38 PM EDT
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Also:

All your Arfcoms are belong to us.
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 5:03:01 PM EDT
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How about we keep Texas in the US, and just kick out the 49 lesser states?

Maybe we could keep parts of New Mexico, Oklahoma, etc. in too.

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Maybe we could keep parts of New Mexico, Oklahoma, etc. in too.

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Good luck servicing that debt all on your own.

Defaulting on it would cause... problems... for your newly shrunk US.
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Actually, quite well.  We kicked Mexico's butt.
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How'd that whole secession thing work out last time?


Actually, quite well.  We kicked Mexico's butt.


You're being willfully obtuse.
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Instead, we could just quit ignoring the Tenth Amendment... problems solved

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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It was fine until your side shat all over the constitution.

 





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Actually, quite well.  We kicked Mexico's butt.


You're being willfully obtuse.

Forget it, they're close to climaxing all over their belt buckles.
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Forget it, they're close to climaxing all over their belt buckles.
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How'd that whole secession thing work out last time?


Actually, quite well.  We kicked Mexico's butt.


You're being willfully obtuse.

Forget it, they're close to climaxing all over their belt buckles.


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Actually, quite well.  We kicked Mexico's butt.


You're being willfully obtuse.

Forget it, they're close to climaxing all over their belt buckles.






Link Posted: 9/17/2014 5:20:06 PM EDT
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I didnt even skim the thread yet.

Am I the first to say fuck Texas? Its on page 3, so I sure hope Im not.
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I didnt even skim the thread yet.

Am I the first to say fuck Texas? Its on page 3, so I sure hope Im not.
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You're not.  There's even a poll choice just for special snowflakes like you.  

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I didnt even skim the thread yet.

Am I the first to say fuck Texas? Its on page 3, so I sure hope Im not.
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You're not.  There's even a poll choice just for special snowflakes like you.  

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I didnt even skim the thread yet.

Am I the first to say fuck Texas? Its on page 3, so I sure hope Im not.


You're not.  There's even a poll choice just for special snowflakes like you.  



I chose that option. Just wanted to make sure it was covered.

On the special snowflake title, it seems to me that you guys seem to think you're the special snowflakes. I think thats the root of the reason for my "fuck Texas" mentality.
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Well, Texas passed a voter ID law.  The Feds struck it down.  You figure out how it would go.

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I just read that Houston alone has around 400,000 illegals. How do they factor into this vote?


Well, Texas passed a voter ID law.  The Feds struck it down.  You figure out how it would go.



Just a correction to your statement.  Voter ID is back.

http://votetexas.gov/register-to-vote/need-id/

In 2011, the Texas Legislature passed Senate Bill 14 (SB 14) creating a new requirement for voters to show photo identification when voting in person. While pending review within the judicial system, the U.S. Supreme Court issued its opinion in Shelby County v. Holder, which effectively ended all pending litigation. As a result, voters are now required to present an approved form of photo identification in order to vote in all Texas Elections.

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Think it'll take the "Fattest Nation" title from Mexico?
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I think there's a NAS in Corpus.

Maybe we could get the Lexington and Texas back into working shape to start the Navy.  
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What does the US do about all the .mil equipment left behind at places like FT Hood?

Are there any naval bases in TX? I suppose Port Houston could serve in a pinch.


I think there's a NAS in Corpus.

Maybe we could get the Lexington and Texas back into working shape to start the Navy.  


You saw Battleship, right?

Kick over a few vending machines and we're golden
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 5:29:12 PM EDT
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Texas has no right to secede. This was settled in 1865.

Texas does have the right to subdivide into 5 states.

8 more Right leaning senators. This would be a very good thing.
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I chose that option. Just wanted to make sure it was covered.

On the special snowflake title, it seems to me that you guys seem to think you're the special snowflakes. I think thats the root of the reason for my "fuck Texas" mentality.
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I didnt even skim the thread yet.

Am I the first to say fuck Texas? Its on page 3, so I sure hope Im not.


You're not.  There's even a poll choice just for special snowflakes like you.  



I chose that option. Just wanted to make sure it was covered.

On the special snowflake title, it seems to me that you guys seem to think you're the special snowflakes. I think thats the root of the reason for my "fuck Texas" mentality.


Sorry if you don't like where you are, or where you're from.  But hey, pride envy is certainly a reason to hate. LMAO

In all seriousness, I really think it's about state vs federal rights, and the freedom of self determination.  But hey, fuck all that... AMIRIGHT?
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You saw Battleship, right?

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What does the US do about all the .mil equipment left behind at places like FT Hood?

Are there any naval bases in TX? I suppose Port Houston could serve in a pinch.


I think there's a NAS in Corpus.

Maybe we could get the Lexington and Texas back into working shape to start the Navy.  


You saw Battleship, right?

Kick over a few vending machines and we're golden



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Americans all think we're special snowflakes.  I hope you hate everyone appropriately.  Fuck America, am I right?  


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Texas decides to hold a vote similar to the one Scotland is having right now:  To withdraw completely from the United States and become an independent Republic of Texas again.

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Don't care.  And  Scotland is FSA  they have nothing without England. They will stay.
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