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Meh, after an enlistment or two everyone's deaf and crippled anyway
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"Non combat types" haven't existed in decades. I'm amazed at how all the formerly pogue-ish MOS specialties now have considerable combat time. Electricians fixing generators at fobs , helicopter mechs, etc at the bigger bases grab m16s and repel johnny jihad when he comes knocking.
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I've pretty much come to the conclusion that we need a military junta in this country. The stupidity in this thread is an indicator of why. We are, as a nation, too emotive and too stupid to live. Literally all public policy in this country that isn't about keeping the masses from rioting with bribes (entitlements) is designed to prevent our population of snowflakes from getting their precious feelings hurt. It's well past the time to start cracking skulls. And hurting feelings. View Quote There are lots of third world countries that I'm sure could use your skill set. While I agree with your third line, your first is a non-starter. |
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Quoted: There are lots of third world countries that I'm sure could use your skill set. While I agree with your third line, your first is a non-starter. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've pretty much come to the conclusion that we need a military junta in this country. The stupidity in this thread is an indicator of why. We are, as a nation, too emotive and too stupid to live. Literally all public policy in this country that isn't about keeping the masses from rioting with bribes (entitlements) is designed to prevent our population of snowflakes from getting their precious feelings hurt. It's well past the time to start cracking skulls. And hurting feelings. There are lots of third world countries that I'm sure could use your skill set. While I agree with your third line, your first is a non-starter. The remainder is a banana republic. No sense in pretending anymore. |
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Newsflash: About one third of this country is a third world country. The remainder is a banana republic. No sense in pretending anymore. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've pretty much come to the conclusion that we need a military junta in this country. The stupidity in this thread is an indicator of why. We are, as a nation, too emotive and too stupid to live. Literally all public policy in this country that isn't about keeping the masses from rioting with bribes (entitlements) is designed to prevent our population of snowflakes from getting their precious feelings hurt. It's well past the time to start cracking skulls. And hurting feelings. There are lots of third world countries that I'm sure could use your skill set. While I agree with your third line, your first is a non-starter. The remainder is a banana republic. No sense in pretending anymore. It's not a matter of pretending we don't have close to 50% of the populace who would be fine living in third world conditions, it's a matter of actively supporting a military dictatorship in what should be a free (I know that's a giant stretch) republic. You've advocated our governance be a military junta and you've clarified why you think that ("About one third of this country is a third world country.The remainder is a banana republic."). I understand your rationale, I just think you're wrong. We are a debtor nation and have huge idiocy problems (for lack of a better term), but the answer is isn't to crush the populace into submission under your military junta; the answer is to cut them all off government aid and make them live or die on their own skills and merits. A lot wouldn't make it. The rest would rebuild/live in the republic we once had. Also, under a military junta none of us would have guns...unless you are part of the junta. I'm guessing you would intend to be part of that body or at least serve under it (based on only your comments alone). |
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We already let the mentally challenged ones into West Point.
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Clarify the red. There are deaf people that I know of who can easily kick any hearing person's ass at dissembling an engine block and replacing a cracked valve. There's another one I know of whose a legal assistant and she fought tooth and nail to get that position and even was a huge asset to her law firm. Don't think for a second that deaf and hard of hearing people are inferior to hearing people. Granted they are not suitable for combat roles in which hearing and communication is essential, but that doesn't mean they are a "waste of space and money and rely upon others to pick up their slack." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military. If you cannot deploy to where ever the military needs you then you are a waste of space and money. You are also a burden on everyone else that can do those things because they pick up your slack. Clarify the red. There are deaf people that I know of who can easily kick any hearing person's ass at dissembling an engine block and replacing a cracked valve. There's another one I know of whose a legal assistant and she fought tooth and nail to get that position and even was a huge asset to her law firm. Don't think for a second that deaf and hard of hearing people are inferior to hearing people. Granted they are not suitable for combat roles in which hearing and communication is essential, but that doesn't mean they are a "waste of space and money and rely upon others to pick up their slack." Does that deaf mechanic go out to bring back disabled vehicles in downtown Kabul? |
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so we just carpet bomb them with fabulous shoes with matching purses and we will be golden! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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At least in civil war 2 we will be fighting an army of disabled deaf trannies. so we just carpet bomb them with fabulous shoes with matching purses and we will be golden! Golden shower? Went too far didn't I? |
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So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Bird says it's a matter of deaf people being treated equally with those who can hear. But they aren't equal when it comes to military suitability. I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat. Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it. Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military. I hope you have the ability to grasp the real reason the military exists. That is to bring violence and death upon those who would wish the same upon us and our way of life. Anything that hinders that ability, and having a deaf soldier counts, is an over all negative. That deaf soldier may very well be called upon to fight, in combat, with an icky gun. Now, do you want a deaf soldier or one who meets the minimum standards of service? Same thing with women, if it effects the ability to kill people and break things then it is a loss to out ability to wage war upon the enemy. The military is not a huge goddamn social experiment, the things the military does have consequences, either it has an over all positive or an over all negative effect on killing somebody else. If you fail to realize this, then, well, I have nothing else to say to you. |
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Quoted: I'm down with this. At least well get some use out of all those FEMA camps. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've pretty much come to the conclusion that we need a military junta in this country. The stupidity in this thread is an indicator of why. We are, as a nation, too emotive and too stupid to live. Literally all public policy in this country that isn't about keeping the masses from rioting with bribes (entitlements) is designed to prevent our population of snowflakes from getting their precious feelings hurt. It's well past the time to start cracking skulls. And hurting feelings. I'm down with this. At least well get some use out of all those FEMA camps. I'm in.
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Quoted: It's not a matter of pretending we don't have close to 50% of the populace who would be fine living in third world conditions, it's a matter of actively supporting a military dictatorship in what should be a free (I know that's a giant stretch) republic. You've advocated our governance be a military junta and you've clarified why you think that ("About one third of this country is a third world country.The remainder is a banana republic."). I understand your rationale, I just think you're wrong. We are a debtor nation and have huge idiocy problems (for lack of a better term), but the answer is isn't to crush the populace into submission under your military junta; the answer is to cut them all off government aid and make them live or die on their own skills and merits. A lot wouldn't make it. The rest would rebuild/live in the republic we once had. Also, under a military junta none of us would have guns...unless you are part of the junta. I'm guessing you would intend to be part of that body or at least serve under it (based on only your comments alone). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've pretty much come to the conclusion that we need a military junta in this country. The stupidity in this thread is an indicator of why. We are, as a nation, too emotive and too stupid to live. Literally all public policy in this country that isn't about keeping the masses from rioting with bribes (entitlements) is designed to prevent our population of snowflakes from getting their precious feelings hurt. It's well past the time to start cracking skulls. And hurting feelings. There are lots of third world countries that I'm sure could use your skill set. While I agree with your third line, your first is a non-starter. The remainder is a banana republic. No sense in pretending anymore. It's not a matter of pretending we don't have close to 50% of the populace who would be fine living in third world conditions, it's a matter of actively supporting a military dictatorship in what should be a free (I know that's a giant stretch) republic. You've advocated our governance be a military junta and you've clarified why you think that ("About one third of this country is a third world country.The remainder is a banana republic."). I understand your rationale, I just think you're wrong. We are a debtor nation and have huge idiocy problems (for lack of a better term), but the answer is isn't to crush the populace into submission under your military junta; the answer is to cut them all off government aid and make them live or die on their own skills and merits. A lot wouldn't make it. The rest would rebuild/live in the republic we once had. Also, under a military junta none of us would have guns...unless you are part of the junta. I'm guessing you would intend to be part of that body or at least serve under it (based on only your comments alone). Some people need to asses the concept of sarcastic humor and recognize its implementation. Or be sent to a FEMA camp.
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I've pretty much come to the conclusion that we need a military junta in this country. The stupidity in this thread is an indicator of why. We are, as a nation, too emotive and too stupid to live. Literally all public policy in this country that isn't about keeping the masses from rioting with bribes (entitlements) is designed to prevent our population of snowflakes from getting their precious feelings hurt. It's well past the time to start cracking skulls. And hurting feelings. There are lots of third world countries that I'm sure could use your skill set. While I agree with your third line, your first is a non-starter. The remainder is a banana republic. No sense in pretending anymore. It's not a matter of pretending we don't have close to 50% of the populace who would be fine living in third world conditions, it's a matter of actively supporting a military dictatorship in what should be a free (I know that's a giant stretch) republic. You've advocated our governance be a military junta and you've clarified why you think that ("About one third of this country is a third world country.The remainder is a banana republic."). I understand your rationale, I just think you're wrong. We are a debtor nation and have huge idiocy problems (for lack of a better term), but the answer is isn't to crush the populace into submission under your military junta; the answer is to cut them all off government aid and make them live or die on their own skills and merits. A lot wouldn't make it. The rest would rebuild/live in the republic we once had. Also, under a military junta none of us would have guns...unless you are part of the junta. I'm guessing you would intend to be part of that body or at least serve under it (based on only your comments alone). Some people need to asses the concept of sarcastic humor and recognize its implementation. Or be sent to a FEMA camp. And some people need to keep up...and you didn't read Primuspilum's last post. |
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This is the necessary move for the current state of things.
This is a pipe dream, because we no longer have the national character for the nation we once had. America is a nation peopled by flabby born-to-losers under the tyranny of clever weaklings. After 20 years or so with commies, shitbags, subversives, deviants and hedonists marginalized, we may be back in the position to do this. And yes. I would totally crack skulls under a system like this. I don't know how to fly a C130, but I would certainly load them for South Atlantic fishfood flights if given the chance. Dare to dream, amirite? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg/800px-Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg View Quote Interesting. Not sure if you see your potential as a supporter of someone like Stalin (not trying to paint you a communist, but more so as the totalitarian he was), or someone like John Gault. It's one thing to let people die as a result of their own actions (likely outcome if all aid were to be cut off), be it of starvation or getting shot trying to steal someone else's supplies, it's another to actively round them up and kick them out of the back of a plane over the ocean (your proposed course of action). I know there's probably more to how your plan would evolve and be enacted, but my guess (based upon this thread and others) is that you do see this as the best course of action. It would be interesting to see how you would decide who gets loaded onto the planes, who is part of your junta, and if there would be anyone in between. |
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Quoted: <deleted for brevity> Interesting. Not sure if you see your potential as a supporter of someone like Stalin (not trying to paint you a communist, but more so as the totalitarian he was), or someone like John Gault. It's one thing to let people die as a result of their own actions (likely outcome if all aid were to be cut off), be it of starvation or getting shot trying to steal someone else's supplies, it's another to actively round them up and kick them out of the back of a plane over the ocean (your proposed course of action). I know there's probably more to how your plan would evolve and be enacted, but my guess (based upon this thread and others) is that you do see this as the best course of action. It would be interesting to see how you would decide who gets loaded onto the planes, who is part of your junta, and if there would be anyone in between. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: <deleted for brevity> This is the necessary move for the current state of things. This is a pipe dream, because we no longer have the national character for the nation we once had. America is a nation peopled by flabby born-to-losers under the tyranny of clever weaklings. After 20 years or so with commies, shitbags, subversives, deviants and hedonists marginalized, we may be back in the position to do this. And yes. I would totally crack skulls under a system like this. I don't know how to fly a C130, but I would certainly load them for South Atlantic fishfood flights if given the chance. Dare to dream, amirite? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg/800px-Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg Interesting. Not sure if you see your potential as a supporter of someone like Stalin (not trying to paint you a communist, but more so as the totalitarian he was), or someone like John Gault. It's one thing to let people die as a result of their own actions (likely outcome if all aid were to be cut off), be it of starvation or getting shot trying to steal someone else's supplies, it's another to actively round them up and kick them out of the back of a plane over the ocean (your proposed course of action). I know there's probably more to how your plan would evolve and be enacted, but my guess (based upon this thread and others) is that you do see this as the best course of action. It would be interesting to see how you would decide who gets loaded onto the planes, who is part of your junta, and if there would be anyone in between. |
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<deleted for brevity> Interesting. Not sure if you see your potential as a supporter of someone like Stalin (not trying to paint you a communist, but more so as the totalitarian he was), or someone like John Gault. It's one thing to let people die as a result of their own actions (likely outcome if all aid were to be cut off), be it of starvation or getting shot trying to steal someone else's supplies, it's another to actively round them up and kick them out of the back of a plane over the ocean (your proposed course of action). I know there's probably more to how your plan would evolve and be enacted, but my guess (based upon this thread and others) is that you do see this as the best course of action. It would be interesting to see how you would decide who gets loaded onto the planes, who is part of your junta, and if there would be anyone in between. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
<deleted for brevity> This is the necessary move for the current state of things.
This is a pipe dream, because we no longer have the national character for the nation we once had. America is a nation peopled by flabby born-to-losers under the tyranny of clever weaklings. After 20 years or so with commies, shitbags, subversives, deviants and hedonists marginalized, we may be back in the position to do this. And yes. I would totally crack skulls under a system like this. I don't know how to fly a C130, but I would certainly load them for South Atlantic fishfood flights if given the chance. Dare to dream, amirite? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg/800px-Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg Interesting. Not sure if you see your potential as a supporter of someone like Stalin (not trying to paint you a communist, but more so as the totalitarian he was), or someone like John Gault. It's one thing to let people die as a result of their own actions (likely outcome if all aid were to be cut off), be it of starvation or getting shot trying to steal someone else's supplies, it's another to actively round them up and kick them out of the back of a plane over the ocean (your proposed course of action). I know there's probably more to how your plan would evolve and be enacted, but my guess (based upon this thread and others) is that you do see this as the best course of action. It would be interesting to see how you would decide who gets loaded onto the planes, who is part of your junta, and if there would be anyone in between. Simple. There's two types of people in this world. Those who can use paragraphs and passengers on the fish food express. |
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Quoted: Simple. There's two types of people in this world. Those who can use paragraphs and passengers on the fish food express. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: <deleted for brevity> This is the necessary move for the current state of things. This is a pipe dream, because we no longer have the national character for the nation we once had. America is a nation peopled by flabby born-to-losers under the tyranny of clever weaklings. After 20 years or so with commies, shitbags, subversives, deviants and hedonists marginalized, we may be back in the position to do this. And yes. I would totally crack skulls under a system like this. I don't know how to fly a C130, but I would certainly load them for South Atlantic fishfood flights if given the chance. Dare to dream, amirite? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg/800px-Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg Interesting. Not sure if you see your potential as a supporter of someone like Stalin (not trying to paint you a communist, but more so as the totalitarian he was), or someone like John Gault. It's one thing to let people die as a result of their own actions (likely outcome if all aid were to be cut off), be it of starvation or getting shot trying to steal someone else's supplies, it's another to actively round them up and kick them out of the back of a plane over the ocean (your proposed course of action). I know there's probably more to how your plan would evolve and be enacted, but my guess (based upon this thread and others) is that you do see this as the best course of action. It would be interesting to see how you would decide who gets loaded onto the planes, who is part of your junta, and if there would be anyone in between. Simple. There's two types of people in this world. Those who can use paragraphs and passengers on the fish food express. We are the pilcrows. ¶ |
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Put them all in the same unit and their patch can be the universal handicap sign
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<deleted for brevity> This is the necessary move for the current state of things.
This is a pipe dream, because we no longer have the national character for the nation we once had. America is a nation peopled by flabby born-to-losers under the tyranny of clever weaklings. After 20 years or so with commies, shitbags, subversives, deviants and hedonists marginalized, we may be back in the position to do this. And yes. I would totally crack skulls under a system like this. I don't know how to fly a C130, but I would certainly load them for South Atlantic fishfood flights if given the chance. Dare to dream, amirite? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg/800px-Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg Interesting. Not sure if you see your potential as a supporter of someone like Stalin (not trying to paint you a communist, but more so as the totalitarian he was), or someone like John Gault. It's one thing to let people die as a result of their own actions (likely outcome if all aid were to be cut off), be it of starvation or getting shot trying to steal someone else's supplies, it's another to actively round them up and kick them out of the back of a plane over the ocean (your proposed course of action). I know there's probably more to how your plan would evolve and be enacted, but my guess (based upon this thread and others) is that you do see this as the best course of action. It would be interesting to see how you would decide who gets loaded onto the planes, who is part of your junta, and if there would be anyone in between. Simple. There's two types of people in this world. Those who can use paragraphs and passengers on the fish food express. And those who can use colons (the grammatical, not anatomical, type), and those who can express clear thoughts in sentences. Clearly you tried, but, thank you for your effort Seriously though, I am interested in what you were trying to say. |
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This is a pipe dream, because we no longer have the national character for the nation we once had. America is a nation peopled by flabby born-to-losers under the tyranny of clever weaklings. After 20 years or so with commies, shitbags, subversives, deviants and hedonists marginalized, we may be back in the position to do this. And yes. I would totally crack skulls under a system like this. I don't know how to fly a C130, but I would certainly load them for South Atlantic fishfood flights if given the chance. Dare to dream, amirite? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg/800px-Argentina_Air_Force_KC-130H_Hercules_Lofting.jpg Interesting. Not sure if you see your potential as a supporter of someone like Stalin (not trying to paint you a communist, but more so as the totalitarian he was), or someone like John Gault. It's one thing to let people die as a result of their own actions (likely outcome if all aid were to be cut off), be it of starvation or getting shot trying to steal someone else's supplies, it's another to actively round them up and kick them out of the back of a plane over the ocean (your proposed course of action). I know there's probably more to how your plan would evolve and be enacted, but my guess (based upon this thread and others) is that you do see this as the best course of action. It would be interesting to see how you would decide who gets loaded onto the planes, who is part of your junta, and if there would be anyone in between. http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110317013600/althistory/images/b/bf/Map_Chile_DD.png Hmmm...Surprisingly we may agree on something. Good choice. Excellent potential and a populace that might be amenable to the idea of a society like we once had. |
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I've already been branded a homophobe and misogynist for my opinions on who should serve in the military. I guess now I hate deaf people.
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I just want to point out that they want a "Special" school for the deaf, but demand "equal treatment". Like most special-interest groups, on one hand they demand equal rights on the other, they want special treatment. Sort of like physically handicapped people demanding equal rights, but wanting the best parking spot at Wal-Mart. View Quote Most of those types of programs are geared for making the disabled productive, independent members of society. There are many jobs deaf folks can do. Personally, I could sit at home and collect a $2200 a month SSDI check. You as the taxpayer would get to foot the bill. Because of these advocate groups, I found a decent paying career where I could do very well with the limited mobility that I have. But, the armed forces is completley different. I am in no way qualified to serve in the military. Deaf people are not, either. There are plenty of civilian jobs for these folks if they have the patriotic urge to serve. |
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