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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:34:19 PM EDT
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Absolutely, we need to nominate candidates with strong conservative values that will appeal to the Republican Party Base, energize them, and get them to the polls; rather than to look to scrape up an insignificant handful of libertarian voters by pandering to liberals and social progressives. Difficult to energize senior citizens. Yes, but what he has done to his own political bona-fides isn't very pretty. 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:41:25 PM EDT
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Fuck the whiny ass "youth". They are what's wrong with this country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Talk of expanding freedom is an easy sell to younger folk. If the youth were so impressed with liberty they would have pulled or Johnson or Romney. They didn't, They don't want liberty, they just want free shit or the promise of free shit. Surely, your guy will win if you keep doing that. It's "worked" for you for eight years, now, hasn't it? Look in the mirror, Republicans. Stop doing stupid shit. We libertarian-minded independents are begging you. Fuck the whiny ass "youth". They are what's wrong with this country. True or not, without their vote you are not winning the Presidency or controlling the Senate. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:43:05 PM EDT
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True or not, without their vote you are not winning the Presidency or controlling the Senate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Talk of expanding freedom is an easy sell to younger folk. If the youth were so impressed with liberty they would have pulled or Johnson or Romney. They didn't, They don't want liberty, they just want free shit or the promise of free shit. Surely, your guy will win if you keep doing that. It's "worked" for you for eight years, now, hasn't it? Look in the mirror, Republicans. Stop doing stupid shit. We libertarian-minded independents are begging you. Fuck the whiny ass "youth". They are what's wrong with this country. True or not, without their vote you are not winning the Presidency or controlling the Senate. Then let it burn. I'm not going to compromise my morals to appease some snot nosed dope smoking pieces of shit. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:43:36 PM EDT
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:46:36 PM EDT
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If the youth were so impressed with liberty they would have pulled or Johnson or Romney. They didn't, They don't want liberty, they just want free shit or the promise of free shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Talk of expanding freedom is an easy sell to younger folk. If the youth were so impressed with liberty they would have pulled or Johnson or Romney. They didn't, They don't want liberty, they just want free shit or the promise of free shit. Johnson never got his message out and overall wasn't a very strong candidate. Romney wasn't a strong candidate either, he didn't do anything great and his debate performance against Obama was mediocre at best. Ron Paul does a great job getting the youth to vote and I would argue he is very pro liberty. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:47:25 PM EDT
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It really does not matter in my state because we have a jungle primary. If the top vote getter does not get 50% of the vote the he/she goes into a runoff with the #2 vote getter. So the main thing to do is not vote for dem in the primary, and then when the dem does not get 50% and makes the runoff that is when you have to hold your nose and vote for the repub.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:54:48 PM EDT
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Johnson never got his message out and overall wasn't a very strong candidate. Romney wasn't a strong candidate either, he didn't do anything great and his debate performance against Obama was mediocre at best. Ron Paul does a great job getting the youth to vote and I would argue he is very pro liberty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Talk of expanding freedom is an easy sell to younger folk. If the youth were so impressed with liberty they would have pulled or Johnson or Romney. They didn't, They don't want liberty, they just want free shit or the promise of free shit. Johnson never got his message out and overall wasn't a very strong candidate. Romney wasn't a strong candidate either, he didn't do anything great and his debate performance against Obama was mediocre at best. Ron Paul does a great job getting the youth to vote and I would argue he is very pro liberty. After learning that Ron Paul was winning by a country mile in every internet poll and leading the pack in every state caucus and primary; I was amazed that he didn't win even a single primary election. Do I sense another moneybomb? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:54:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: Then let it burn. I'm not going to compromise my morals to appease some snot nosed dope smoking pieces of shit. And there it is, your position is come over to my side or let it burn! All the while criticizing those that hold the same line but have different views for not accepting your candidate. Tell you what when things start flaming up, I'll bring some marshmallows and you can tell me how great things were in the "good ole days". |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:58:40 PM EDT
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And there it is, your position is come over to my side or let it burn! All the while criticizing those that hold the same line but have different views for not accepting your candidate. Tell you what when things start flaming up, I'll bring some marshmallows and you can tell me how great things were in the "good ole days". Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Then let it burn. I'm not going to compromise my morals to appease some snot nosed dope smoking pieces of shit. And there it is, your position is come over to my side or let it burn! All the while criticizing those that hold the same line but have different views for not accepting your candidate. Tell you what when things start flaming up, I'll bring some marshmallows and you can tell me how great things were in the "good ole days". ...and you are saying "put up liberal candidates or let it burn". Hypocrite. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:58:51 PM EDT
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:08:37 PM EDT
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This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:21:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Throwing hippies and whack jobs up there has worked for the Libertarian party how many times? Oh that's right. It hasn't. Convince me to vote for your candidate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Talk of expanding freedom is an easy sell to younger folk. If the youth were so impressed with liberty they would have pulled or Johnson or Romney. They didn't, They don't want liberty, they just want free shit or the promise of free shit. Surely, your guy will win if you keep doing that. It's "worked" for you for eight years, now, hasn't it? Look in the mirror, Republicans. Stop doing stupid shit. We libertarian-minded independents are begging you. Throwing hippies and whack jobs up there has worked for the Libertarian party how many times? Oh that's right. It hasn't. Convince me to vote for your candidate. Did you have a point, other than to avoid the one I made? Ok, I'll "get off your lawn," and with pleasure.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:23:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck the whiny ass "youth". They are what's wrong with this country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Talk of expanding freedom is an easy sell to younger folk. If the youth were so impressed with liberty they would have pulled or Johnson or Romney. They didn't, They don't want liberty, they just want free shit or the promise of free shit. Surely, your guy will win if you keep doing that. It's "worked" for you for eight years, now, hasn't it? Look in the mirror, Republicans. Stop doing stupid shit. We libertarian-minded independents are begging you. Fuck the whiny ass "youth". They are what's wrong with this country. If the few Rs here who are still able to think want to see who you need to shun, start with guys like this. They ensure that your party will have no future. "HIllary! In a LANDSLIDE!!!!"
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:23:52 PM EDT
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...and you are saying "put up liberal candidates or let it burn". Hypocrite. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:24:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True or not, without their vote you are not winning the Presidency or controlling the Senate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Talk of expanding freedom is an easy sell to younger folk. If the youth were so impressed with liberty they would have pulled or Johnson or Romney. They didn't, They don't want liberty, they just want free shit or the promise of free shit. Surely, your guy will win if you keep doing that. It's "worked" for you for eight years, now, hasn't it? Look in the mirror, Republicans. Stop doing stupid shit. We libertarian-minded independents are begging you. Fuck the whiny ass "youth". They are what's wrong with this country. True or not, without their vote you are not winning the Presidency or controlling the Senate. And "get off their lawn."
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:25:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...and you are saying "put up liberal candidates or let it burn". Hypocrite. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Then let it burn. I'm not going to compromise my morals to appease some snot nosed dope smoking pieces of shit. And there it is, your position is come over to my side or let it burn! All the while criticizing those that hold the same line but have different views for not accepting your candidate. Tell you what when things start flaming up, I'll bring some marshmallows and you can tell me how great things were in the "good ole days". ...and you are saying "put up liberal candidates or let it burn". Hypocrite. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:26:28 PM EDT
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...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... If you had been paying attention, you would know that the GOP is doing it's best to ensure that "candidates to our liking" do no get elected. Mississippi is case and point. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:26:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guess it depends how you define "liberal candidates". I don't want to spread democracy to foreign lands, finance the continuation of the failed War on Drugs, or have the federal government spy on me. If that makes me a liberal and my candidate a liberal candidate then so be it. As far being a hypocrite, I held my nose and voted for your shitty candidates in 2008 and 2012. At what point do you realize the same old same isn't working anymore and a change is needed? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Then let it burn. I'm not going to compromise my morals to appease some snot nosed dope smoking pieces of shit. And there it is, your position is come over to my side or let it burn! All the while criticizing those that hold the same line but have different views for not accepting your candidate. Tell you what when things start flaming up, I'll bring some marshmallows and you can tell me how great things were in the "good ole days". ...and you are saying "put up liberal candidates or let it burn". Hypocrite. Guess it depends how you define "liberal candidates". I don't want to spread democracy to foreign lands, finance the continuation of the failed War on Drugs, or have the federal government spy on me. If that makes me a liberal and my candidate a liberal candidate then so be it. As far being a hypocrite, I held my nose and voted for your shitty candidates in 2008 and 2012. At what point do you realize the same old same isn't working anymore and a change is needed? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:28:46 PM EDT
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. They do. And are insignificant. Yet we have these threads full of Republicans obsessed with what they're doing anyway. 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:35:04 PM EDT
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Guess it depends how you define "liberal candidates". I don't want to spread democracy to foreign lands, finance the continuation of the failed War on Drugs, or have the federal government spy on me. If that makes me a liberal and my candidate a liberal candidate then so be it. As far being a hypocrite, I held my nose and voted for your shitty candidates in 2008 and 2012. At what point do you realize the same old same isn't working anymore and a change is needed? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:46:20 PM EDT
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I held my nose too. The difference is that I want a more conservative candidate, and your kind wants a more liberal one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:50:28 PM EDT
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But both major parties are the same........oh wait.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1670998_These_Senators_Voted_to_Ban_Semi_Auto_Firearms_in_2013.html |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:51:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I held my nose too. The difference is that I want a more conservative candidate, and your kind wants a more liberal one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Then let it burn. I'm not going to compromise my morals to appease some snot nosed dope smoking pieces of shit. And there it is, your position is come over to my side or let it burn! All the while criticizing those that hold the same line but have different views for not accepting your candidate. Tell you what when things start flaming up, I'll bring some marshmallows and you can tell me how great things were in the "good ole days". ...and you are saying "put up liberal candidates or let it burn". Hypocrite. Guess it depends how you define "liberal candidates". I don't want to spread democracy to foreign lands, finance the continuation of the failed War on Drugs, or have the federal government spy on me. If that makes me a liberal and my candidate a liberal candidate then so be it. As far being a hypocrite, I held my nose and voted for your shitty candidates in 2008 and 2012. At what point do you realize the same old same isn't working anymore and a change is needed? I held my nose too. The difference is that I want a more conservative candidate, and your kind wants a more liberal one. If "conservative" means "pro-liberty," you are the opposite of that. The R party needs to choose one path or the other. The choice it makes may not be the one it traditionally has made. Unless it wants to keep losing, anyway, and blaming libertarians for having lost, as per SOP. Is the R party the party of liberty, or is it not? That is a message that sells. Currently, the R party is not that. It is the party of "get off my lawn" and (in your opinion) "god does not approve." That is a message that repels. Choose wisely, GOPers. Choose wisely. The future of my country depends on your choice. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:18:34 PM EDT
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Why don't you just vote democrat?
You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Here you go again with the God stuff. I don't need God to tell me drugs are bad for society. I don't need God to tell me killing babies is wrong. I don't need God to tell me that gays are unnatural. I don't need God to tell me that we need to seal our borders to remain safe. I don't need God to tell me that we need to come to the aid of those in need. I could go on. Sell your bullshit to someone else. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:20:41 PM EDT
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Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Bush tried to shrink it in one of the most important ways: Ending people's reliance on social security by allowing for private investment towards retirement. He got dragged over the coals for it by both parties. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:23:02 PM EDT
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Bush tried to shrink it in one of the most important ways: Ending people's reliance on social security by allowing for private investment towards retirement. He got dragged over the coals for it by both parties. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Bush tried to shrink it in one of the most important ways: Ending people's reliance on social security by allowing for private investment towards retirement. He got dragged over the coals for it by both parties. This is my point. Once you give up power to the government, you will never get it back. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:23:03 PM EDT
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If you had been paying attention, you would know that the GOP is doing it's best to ensure that "candidates to our liking" do no get elected. Mississippi is case and point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... If you had been paying attention, you would know that the GOP is doing it's best to ensure that "candidates to our liking" do no get elected. Mississippi is case and point. Unseating an incumbent isn't easy. If you want to win, you must work hard. How much time and money have YOU donated? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:25:00 PM EDT
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This is my point. Once you give up power to the government, you will never get it back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Bush tried to shrink it in one of the most important ways: Ending people's reliance on social security by allowing for private investment towards retirement. He got dragged over the coals for it by both parties. This is my point. Once you give up power to the government, you will never get it back. In that case, why vote? If that is what you believe, casting a vote implies support for continued government control over what they're already into. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:26:50 PM EDT
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In that case, why vote? If that is what you believe, casting a vote implies support for continued government control over what they're already into. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Bush tried to shrink it in one of the most important ways: Ending people's reliance on social security by allowing for private investment towards retirement. He got dragged over the coals for it by both parties. This is my point. Once you give up power to the government, you will never get it back. In that case, why vote? If that is what you believe, casting a vote implies support for continued government control over what they're already into. Because I'd rather have Republicans hoarding power than Democrats. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:35:18 PM EDT
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Unseating an incumbent isn't easy. If you want to win, you must work hard. How much time and money have YOU donated? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... If you had been paying attention, you would know that the GOP is doing it's best to ensure that "candidates to our liking" do no get elected. Mississippi is case and point. Unseating an incumbent isn't easy. If you want to win, you must work hard. How much time and money have YOU donated? Especially when the GOP or incumbent is paying Democrats to vote for them in the primary. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Here you go again with the God stuff. I don't need God to tell me drugs are bad for society. I don't need God to tell me killing babies is wrong. I don't need God to tell me that gays are unnatural. I don't need God to tell me that we need to seal our borders to remain safe. I don't need God to tell me that we need to come to the aid of those in need. I could go on. Sell your bullshit to someone else. But I do not believe you that your version of god is not what drives you to so much hate and disdain for so many. I just do not believe you. If this version of god is what drives you, you might as well vote D, because your kind is what is driving the R party to perpetual irrelevance. Whom do you hate more: those evil "sodomites" who may agree with you on so many issues and all the people who distrust your hate of those "sodomites" who may agree with you on so many issues, or the Ds, who disagree with you on all issues? Sooner than you would like, you will have to choose one or the other. Or, you could keep blaming libertarians until the day you die for all your party's losses. You can run from the world as it is for only so long. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:37:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Especially when the GOP or incumbent is paying Democrats to vote for them in the primary. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... If you had been paying attention, you would know that the GOP is doing it's best to ensure that "candidates to our liking" do no get elected. Mississippi is case and point. Unseating an incumbent isn't easy. If you want to win, you must work hard. How much time and money have YOU donated? Especially when the GOP or incumbent is paying Democrats to vote for them in the primary. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:40:07 PM EDT
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You seem to know barbecue, so I am trying to cut you some slack. But I do not believe you that your version of god is not what drives you to so much hate and disdain for so many. I just do not believe you. If this version of god is what drives you, you might as well vote D, because your kind is what is driving the R party to perpetual irrelevance. Whom do you hate more: those evil "sodomites" who may agree with you on so many issues and all the people who distrust your hate of those "sodomites" who may agree with you on so many issues, or the Ds, who disagree with you on all issues? Sooner than you would like, you will have to choose one or the other. Or, you could keep blaming libertarians until the day you die for all your party's losses. You can run from the world as it is for only so long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Here you go again with the God stuff. I don't need God to tell me drugs are bad for society. I don't need God to tell me killing babies is wrong. I don't need God to tell me that gays are unnatural. I don't need God to tell me that we need to seal our borders to remain safe. I don't need God to tell me that we need to come to the aid of those in need. I could go on. Sell your bullshit to someone else. But I do not believe you that your version of god is not what drives you to so much hate and disdain for so many. I just do not believe you. If this version of god is what drives you, you might as well vote D, because your kind is what is driving the R party to perpetual irrelevance. Whom do you hate more: those evil "sodomites" who may agree with you on so many issues and all the people who distrust your hate of those "sodomites" who may agree with you on so many issues, or the Ds, who disagree with you on all issues? Sooner than you would like, you will have to choose one or the other. Or, you could keep blaming libertarians until the day you die for all your party's losses. You can run from the world as it is for only so long. You give me too much credit. I'm a crappy Christian. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:47:20 PM EDT
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Strive not to be such a good Democrat.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:48:26 PM EDT
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a vote for Rand is a vote in the direction of the Libertarian ideal
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:48:51 PM EDT
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Strive not to be such a good Democrat. Not even going to waste my time with this one. 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:51:42 PM EDT
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Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Here you go again with the God stuff. I don't need God to tell me drugs are bad for society. I don't need God to tell me killing babies is wrong. I don't need God to tell me that gays are unnatural. I don't need God to tell me that we need to seal our borders to remain safe. I don't need God to tell me that we need to come to the aid of those in need. I could go on. Sell your bullshit to someone else. Democrats do not represent my views any better than Republicans. As far as your other points, Drugs are indeed bad for society, but what has the Gov accomplished on stopping drug use? NOTHING, how much money has been wasted? about 30 Billion Dollars. Abortion is a losing issue, plain and simple. I support state efforts to limit it, but if it were ever successfully outlawed, a whole new set of issues would pop up that would also be a losing issue. Homosexuality is sometimes seen in nature outside of humans. Calling it unnatural is a stretch. But honestly why do you care? It is not like it is contagious. How do we seal 7500 miles of border and 95,000 miles of shoreline? Why don't we just take away any benefit for people to come here, except low wage jobs? Hell of a lot easier and cheaper too! I'm fine with YOU or others coming to the aid of those in need, as long as you are not using my tax dollars. I want to be allowed to make the choice where my money gets spent. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:52:13 PM EDT
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Maybe "good Democrat" is not the right phrase.
"Effective Democrat" might be better? I'm begging you: strive not to be such an effective Democrat by driving so many screaming away from your party.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:53:37 PM EDT
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Republicans are better than Democrats but just barely. Not enough to earn the vote of a real Conservative with convictions.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:54:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Democrats do not represent my views any better than Republicans. As far as your other points, Drugs are indeed bad for society, but what has the Gov accomplished on stopping drug use? NOTHING, how much money has been wasted? about 30 Billion Dollars. Abortion is a losing issue, plain and simple. I support state efforts to limit it, but if it were ever successfully outlawed, a whole new set of issues would pop up that would also be a losing issue. Homosexuality is sometimes seen in nature outside of humans. Calling it unnatural is a stretch. But honestly why do you care? It is not like it is contagious. How do we seal 7500 miles of border and 95,000 miles of shoreline? Why don't we just take away any benefit for people to come here, except low wage jobs? Hell of a lot easier and cheaper too! I'm fine with YOU or others coming to the aid of those in need, as long as you are not using my tax dollars. I want to be allowed to make the choice where my money gets spent. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Here you go again with the God stuff. I don't need God to tell me drugs are bad for society. I don't need God to tell me killing babies is wrong. I don't need God to tell me that gays are unnatural. I don't need God to tell me that we need to seal our borders to remain safe. I don't need God to tell me that we need to come to the aid of those in need. I could go on. Sell your bullshit to someone else. Democrats do not represent my views any better than Republicans. As far as your other points, Drugs are indeed bad for society, but what has the Gov accomplished on stopping drug use? NOTHING, how much money has been wasted? about 30 Billion Dollars. Abortion is a losing issue, plain and simple. I support state efforts to limit it, but if it were ever successfully outlawed, a whole new set of issues would pop up that would also be a losing issue. Homosexuality is sometimes seen in nature outside of humans. Calling it unnatural is a stretch. But honestly why do you care? It is not like it is contagious. How do we seal 7500 miles of border and 95,000 miles of shoreline? Why don't we just take away any benefit for people to come here, except low wage jobs? Hell of a lot easier and cheaper too! I'm fine with YOU or others coming to the aid of those in need, as long as you are not using my tax dollars. I want to be allowed to make the choice where my money gets spent. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:00:55 PM EDT
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...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... So without spending a large sum of my own personal savings, I don't have a right to dislike a candidate or expect the "conservative" party to actually be fiscally conservative? And because I can't afford to give thousands of dollars to some politician that doesn't give two fucks about me.....I obviously don't know anything about domestic or foreign policy and am too consumed with American idol and deserve shit candidates? That's cute.....typical self entitled, elitist bullshit. Let me guess....only land owners should vote too? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:10:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So without spending a large sum of my own personal savings, I don't have a right to dislike a candidate or expect the "conservative" party to actually be fiscally conservative? And because I can't afford to give thousands of dollars to some politician that doesn't give two fucks about me.....I obviously don't know anything about domestic or foreign policy and am too consumed with American idol and deserve shit candidates? That's cute.....typical self entitled, elitist bullshit. Let me guess....only land owners should vote too? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... So without spending a large sum of my own personal savings, I don't have a right to dislike a candidate or expect the "conservative" party to actually be fiscally conservative? And because I can't afford to give thousands of dollars to some politician that doesn't give two fucks about me.....I obviously don't know anything about domestic or foreign policy and am too consumed with American idol and deserve shit candidates? That's cute.....typical self entitled, elitist bullshit. Let me guess....only land owners should vote too?  To the woodshed. That is where you have taken them. When did it become un-American to bitch about those who govern us? FBHO, right? Or is that un-American, too. Or are all who say that just ignoramuses who should just rest their pretty heads on the couch while droning out to American Idol? Some clown-ass Republicans need a "come-to-Jesus" moment to realize how everyone else sees them. And then they need a refresher course on why freedom matters.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:15:45 PM EDT
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So without spending a large sum of my own personal savings, I don't have a right to dislike a candidate or expect the "conservative" party to actually be fiscally conservative? And because I can't afford to give thousands of dollars to some politician that doesn't give two fucks about me.....I obviously don't know anything about domestic or foreign policy and am too consumed with American idol and deserve shit candidates? That's cute.....typical self entitled, elitist bullshit. Let me guess....only land owners should vote too? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... So without spending a large sum of my own personal savings, I don't have a right to dislike a candidate or expect the "conservative" party to actually be fiscally conservative? And because I can't afford to give thousands of dollars to some politician that doesn't give two fucks about me.....I obviously don't know anything about domestic or foreign policy and am too consumed with American idol and deserve shit candidates? That's cute.....typical self entitled, elitist bullshit. Let me guess....only land owners should vote too? It doesn't require any significant sum of money to join a party and work locally and even statewide in an attempt to foster your vision within a party. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:18:02 PM EDT
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It doesn't require any significant sum of money to join a party and work locally and even statewide in an attempt to foster your vision within a party. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... So without spending a large sum of my own personal savings, I don't have a right to dislike a candidate or expect the "conservative" party to actually be fiscally conservative? And because I can't afford to give thousands of dollars to some politician that doesn't give two fucks about me.....I obviously don't know anything about domestic or foreign policy and am too consumed with American idol and deserve shit candidates? That's cute.....typical self entitled, elitist bullshit. Let me guess....only land owners should vote too? It doesn't require any significant sum of money to join a party and work locally and even statewide in an attempt to foster your vision within a party. According to Cincinatus....you are dead wrong. And you don't have a right to complain unless you give all of your money to politicians. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:21:06 PM EDT
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What a sea change it would be in the electoral prospects of the R party if they listened to you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Here you go again with the God stuff. I don't need God to tell me drugs are bad for society. I don't need God to tell me killing babies is wrong. I don't need God to tell me that gays are unnatural. I don't need God to tell me that we need to seal our borders to remain safe. I don't need God to tell me that we need to come to the aid of those in need. I could go on. Sell your bullshit to someone else. Democrats do not represent my views any better than Republicans. As far as your other points, Drugs are indeed bad for society, but what has the Gov accomplished on stopping drug use? NOTHING, how much money has been wasted? about 30 Billion Dollars. Abortion is a losing issue, plain and simple. I support state efforts to limit it, but if it were ever successfully outlawed, a whole new set of issues would pop up that would also be a losing issue. Homosexuality is sometimes seen in nature outside of humans. Calling it unnatural is a stretch. But honestly why do you care? It is not like it is contagious. How do we seal 7500 miles of border and 95,000 miles of shoreline? Why don't we just take away any benefit for people to come here, except low wage jobs? Hell of a lot easier and cheaper too! I'm fine with YOU or others coming to the aid of those in need, as long as you are not using my tax dollars. I want to be allowed to make the choice where my money gets spent. lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:22:11 PM EDT
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Maybe "good Democrat" is not the right phrase. "Effective Democrat" might be better? I'm begging you: strive not to be such an effective Democrat by driving so many screaming away from your party. Goddamn, you are like a broken fucking record. On and on about "being accepted", you really want the GOP to drop by and pick you up in a big pink fucking bus? You voted for Romney and bitch and ridicule others who did the same. I wish the internet in Somalia would crash. Your schtick is old hat now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:27:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Goddamn, you are like a broken fucking record. On and on about "being accepted", you really want the GOP to drop by and pick you up in a big pink fucking bus? You voted for Romney and bitch and ridicule others who did the same. I wish the internet in Somalia would crash. Your schtick is old hat now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe "good Democrat" is not the right phrase. "Effective Democrat" might be better? I'm begging you: strive not to be such an effective Democrat by driving so many screaming away from your party. Goddamn, you are like a broken fucking record. On and on about "being accepted", you really want the GOP to drop by and pick you up in a big pink fucking bus? You voted for Romney and bitch and ridicule others who did the same. I wish the internet in Somalia would crash. Your schtick is old hat now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I care not a chocolate fart about "being accepted" by the prigs and pricks and puerile among your party. I'm just giving those of you who can still think advice about how you might rise on a national level to relevance again. That is not at all to say that I am hopeful that any of you will listen. Should I "get off your lawn," now?
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:30:03 PM EDT
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Why don't you just vote democrat? You will NEVER find a politician that will shrink government. Here you go again with the God stuff. I don't need God to tell me drugs are bad for society. I don't need God to tell me killing babies is wrong. I don't need God to tell me that gays are unnatural. I don't need God to tell me that we need to seal our borders to remain safe. I don't need God to tell me that we need to come to the aid of those in need. I could go on. Sell your bullshit to someone else. Democrats do not represent my views any better than Republicans. As far as your other points, Drugs are indeed bad for society, but what has the Gov accomplished on stopping drug use? NOTHING, how much money has been wasted? about 30 Billion Dollars. Abortion is a losing issue, plain and simple. I support state efforts to limit it, but if it were ever successfully outlawed, a whole new set of issues would pop up that would also be a losing issue. Homosexuality is sometimes seen in nature outside of humans. Calling it unnatural is a stretch. But honestly why do you care? It is not like it is contagious. How do we seal 7500 miles of border and 95,000 miles of shoreline? Why don't we just take away any benefit for people to come here, except low wage jobs? Hell of a lot easier and cheaper too! I'm fine with YOU or others coming to the aid of those in need, as long as you are not using my tax dollars. I want to be allowed to make the choice where my money gets spent. lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You know what I find funny, despite 38% of the American population self identifying as conservative vs 23% as liberal (Based on Gallup 2013 poll), the Republicans have lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections. If that doesn't tell you, you are doing something wrong, I guess nothing will. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:31:55 PM EDT
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This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... If you had been paying attention, you would know that the GOP is doing it's best to ensure that "candidates to our liking" do no get elected. Mississippi is case and point. Unseating an incumbent isn't easy. If you want to win, you must work hard. How much time and money have YOU donated? Especially when the GOP or incumbent is paying Democrats to vote for them in the primary. How much time and money have YOU donated? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 11:33:12 PM EDT
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So without spending a large sum of my own personal savings, I don't have a right to dislike a candidate or expect the "conservative" party to actually be fiscally conservative? And because I can't afford to give thousands of dollars to some politician that doesn't give two fucks about me.....I obviously don't know anything about domestic or foreign policy and am too consumed with American idol and deserve shit candidates? That's cute.....typical self entitled, elitist bullshit. Let me guess....only land owners should vote too? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Libertarians should vote for Libertarian candidates. It's how they express themselves. This, I don't know what all the fuss is about complaining about Republicans. If y'all hate them, then by all means vote Libertarian. ...and if you want Republicans to behave in a certain way, work hard to elect Republicans that behave in that certain way. It takes hard work and money. If you haven't busted your ass and devoted lots of time and money to elect a candidate to your liking -stop whining about it, I think American Idol is coming on... So without spending a large sum of my own personal savings, I don't have a right to dislike a candidate or expect the "conservative" party to actually be fiscally conservative? And because I can't afford to give thousands of dollars to some politician that doesn't give two fucks about me.....I obviously don't know anything about domestic or foreign policy and am too consumed with American idol and deserve shit candidates? That's cute.....typical self entitled, elitist bullshit. Let me guess....only land owners should vote too? You sound like a loser. Work harder and stop whining. |
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