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Posted: 9/27/2014 6:19:23 PM EDT
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http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760710!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760709!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg Investigators exits woods near Buck Hill Falls resort in Barrett Twp. on Friday. Michael Mullen / Staff photographer For those who know what this is.....  A seal team temporarily attached to the state police? |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 6:23:41 PM EDT
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http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760710!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760709!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg Investigators exits woods near Buck Hill Falls resort in Barrett Twp. on Friday. Michael Mullen / Staff photographer For those who know what this is..... A seal team temporarily attached to the state police? Judging by the FBI patch and beaucoup expensive toys, I'd say HRT. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 6:28:34 PM EDT
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Judging by the FBI patch and beaucoup expensive toys, I'd say HRT. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760710!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760709!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg Investigators exits woods near Buck Hill Falls resort in Barrett Twp. on Friday. Michael Mullen / Staff photographer For those who know what this is..... A seal team temporarily attached to the state police? Judging by the FBI patch and beaucoup expensive toys, I'd say HRT. How does that work? Do they swear in some SF guys and give them new blouses with FBI patches until they are done with a job or what? |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 6:29:22 PM EDT
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How does that work? Do they swear in some SF guys and give them new blouses with FBI patches until they are done with a job or what? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760710!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760709!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg Investigators exits woods near Buck Hill Falls resort in Barrett Twp. on Friday. Michael Mullen / Staff photographer For those who know what this is..... A seal team temporarily attached to the state police? Judging by the FBI patch and beaucoup expensive toys, I'd say HRT. How does that work? Do they swear in some SF guys and give them new blouses with FBI patches until they are done with a job or what? Hostage Rescue Team. HRT |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 6:45:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2014 6:57:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ^^^ The area doesn't have a "main street" small town type community where everyone knows each other. It is thousands of people spread all over the place, who typically don't know or talk to each other. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the cop knew the sister in law of the suspect. Fascinating stuff. I bet they filled up at the same gas station and had the same cable company too. Rural community, duh. Everyone knows everyone. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm sure there is. Suspects dad and police chief visited same gun store. Suspects mom and cops daughter had same dentist. That kind of stuff. Because small community. Mountain people and dentist? LOL You ain't from round there, that much is clear. I said it earlier and it's worth repeating. The mountain people in the pocono area are pretty damn private people. ^^^ The area doesn't have a "main street" small town type community where everyone knows each other. It is thousands of people spread all over the place, who typically don't know or talk to each other. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 12:27:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A seal team temporarily attached to the state police? Judging by the FBI patch and beaucoup expensive toys, I'd say HRT. How does that work? Do they swear in some SF guys and give them new blouses with FBI patches until they are done with a job or what? Hostage Roasting Team. HRT FIFY |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:06:04 AM EDT
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If Frein had believed the trooper was involved with his sister-in-law, it could help explain why he drove 25 miles to the Blooming Grove police barracks to carry out his deadly attack rather than pick a target closer to home. Frein drives 25 miles to shoot a trooper who lives 1/2 mile from his sister-in-law (who state the police states the trooper is friends with) in the pelvis when there is a closer police department in his own town. Pennsylvania Sate police spokesman Trooper Tom Kelly confirmed that Douglass and Melissa Frein are friends and there is no way to know whether Eric Frein believed that his sister-in-law was involved with the 31-year-old trooper until and unless they manage to arrest him. Melissa Frein lives less than half a mile away from Douglass in Olyphant, Pennsylvania and police admit the two knew each other. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771034/Police-hunting-survivalist-cop-killer-search-haunted-hotel-used-MTV-show.html http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/26/pennsylvania-troopers-deny-rumored-affair-as-motive-for-eric-frein-state-trooper-shooting/20968474/ |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:45:54 AM EDT
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http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760710!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg http://thetimes-tribune.com/polopoly_fs/1.1760709!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg Investigators exits woods near Buck Hill Falls resort in Barrett Twp. on Friday. Michael Mullen / Staff photographer For those who know what this is..... Super expensive panoramic nvg setup. Am I supposed to be offended? |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 7:46:30 PM EDT
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Probably been asked, but I can't read 39 pages of posts Have they used helicopter born thermal imagining to find this guy? |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 8:08:13 PM EDT
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Probably been asked, but I can't read 39 pages of posts Have they used helicopter born thermal imagining to find this guy? Yes, 3 of them To be exact if you go by the word of the locals, and it was reported that the canopy was too thick (that part is all over news). |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 8:49:45 PM EDT
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What is the likelyhood this guy is in a hole somewhere and his shit was stolen and used to distract away from a bank robbery by a group of trained people? I mean you scope out a bank, look for a local guy who talks shit and brags about his guns and hatred for the police, take him out and use his stuff. dump it like it was wrecked and abandoned. Plenty of people with the skills to do it after 13 years of war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless they really have eyes on, time to scale back, send in three to four man teams for two to three day recons. Two man unmarked from the drug task force pool for random patrol of common areas or possible sympathizer drops. Have a QRF in reserve. What is the likelyhood this guy is in a hole somewhere and his shit was stolen and used to distract away from a bank robbery by a group of trained people? I mean you scope out a bank, look for a local guy who talks shit and brags about his guns and hatred for the police, take him out and use his stuff. dump it like it was wrecked and abandoned. Plenty of people with the skills to do it after 13 years of war. Zero. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 9:01:31 PM EDT
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Search for suspected cop killer enters third week http://www.pocononews.net/news/2014/September/27/27Sep14-1.html http://republicanherald.com/news/investigator-suspected-killer-planned-attack-for-years-1.1761035 Got to get the story straight. He knew her, he didn't know her.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771034/Police-hunting-survivalist-cop-killer-search-haunted-hotel-used-MTV-show.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
Search for suspected cop killer enters third week BARRETT TWP – State Police say they narrowing the area where they believe Eric Frein is hiding. The search area includes some former, now abandoned, large resorts in Barrett Township. There was some speculation Frein has been in at least one of them, the huge Buck Hill Inn in Barrett Township. That could not be verified. http://www.pocononews.net/news/2014/September/27/27Sep14-1.html During his remarks Friday, Bivens refuted reports of an inappropriate relationship between Douglass and Frein’s sister-in-law, Melissa. She married Frein’s brother, Michael, in 2006 and lives in the Acorn Hill Estates, the same housing development as Douglass.
“We cannot assume to know what Eric Frein believes, however, we are convinced Trooper Douglass and Melissa Frein did not have a personal relationship,” he said. Bivens later added, “I am told that there is no relationship whatsoever, that he (Douglass) does not even know them.” http://republicanherald.com/news/investigator-suspected-killer-planned-attack-for-years-1.1761035 As MailOnline exclusively reported on Thursday, Frein may have believed Douglass, 31, was having an affair with the fugitive's sister-in-law Melissa Frein.
Melissa Frein lives less than half a mile away from Douglass in Olyphant, Pennsylvania and police admit the two knew each other. They say they aggressively interviewed Melissa about rumors of an affair but say they now do not believe the two were involved. Melissa Frein, who recently left her job at the vaccine company Sanofi Pasteur in Swiftwater, Pennsylvania, did not return calls. A neighbor at the Olyphant address said he hadn't seen the mother-of-two for more than a week although he usually saw her every day. Melissa is the wife of the alleged gunman's older brother, Michael. Eric Frein was best man at their 2007 wedding at St. Joseph Melkite Greek Catholic Church in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Bivens said injured Trooper Douglass remains critical in hospital in a 'serious but stable condition.' He said Douglass had been 'troubled' by reports linking him with Frein's married sister-in-law. Got to get the story straight. He knew her, he didn't know her.... Pennsylvania Sate police spokesman Trooper Tom Kelly confirmed that Douglass and Melissa Frein are friends and there is no way to know whether Eric Frein believed that his sister-in-law was involved with the 31-year-old trooper until and unless they manage to arrest him. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771034/Police-hunting-survivalist-cop-killer-search-haunted-hotel-used-MTV-show.html I've worked my fair share of husband/wife beat a BF/GF ass who was fucking the wife/husband deals but never a BIL/SIL took it up to seek revenge. Possible? Sure. Most likley IME not even on the radar. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 9:02:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:04:09 PM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone.
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:19:24 PM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? I heard it was a 5-mile area. ETA: And I thought it was a few days ago. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:21:57 PM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:30:34 PM EDT
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They have a narrow area where he used his cell phone. That doesn't mean he is there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? This guy is Super Shooter 2000, planning this for how long, and decides to use his cell? Unlikely story is unlikely. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:32:56 PM EDT
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That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:34:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:34:07 PM EDT
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What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Gear and man power. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:40:11 PM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Wonder has FBI recalled any retired agents from the Eric Rudolph case to pump them for information about how they chased him. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:40:32 PM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. She was about to throw that baby RIGHT AT the encircling agents. Lon saved a lot of lives that day. 
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:50:13 PM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Think a little harder. I seem to remember them breaching a concrete bunker to save kidnapped girl not long ago. Barring RR and Waco, why don't you tell me their other unsuccessful ops. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 11:08:46 PM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. That they did, that they did. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 11:10:09 PM EDT
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Think a little harder. I seem to remember them breaching a concrete bunker to save kidnapped girl not long ago. Barring RR and Waco, why don't you tell me their other unsuccessful ops. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Think a little harder. I seem to remember them breaching a concrete bunker to save kidnapped girl not long ago. Barring RR and Waco, why don't you tell me their other unsuccessful ops. It would be interesting to know just how often they're employed, as I recall there are only about 100 and only 1/3 are available at any time, that's not a lot of bodies. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 11:20:27 PM EDT
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You don't hear about a lot of their missions.
FBI HRT the HRT has been involved in over 200 successful missions, both in the US and abroad. Many of these low-key operations have received little or no attention from the world press. Some higher-profile cases include...[snip]...the capture of the suspected masterminds of the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Africa, the rescue following the 2013 abduction of a five-year-old boy in Alabama,[11] and the hostage rescue operations of prison guards at Talladega, Alabama, and St. Martinville, Louisiana. On 19 April 2013, the Hostage Rescue Team arrested a man in Watertown, Massachusetts, after a manhunt for the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings of April 15, 2013.[12] HRT rescued a teenager by killing her abductor on August 10, 2013.[13] HRT rescued kidnap victim Frank Arthur Janssen. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 12:02:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Frein drives 25 miles to shoot a trooper who lives 1/2 mile from his sister-in-law (who state the police states the trooper is friends with) in the pelvis when there is a closer police department in his own town. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771034/Police-hunting-survivalist-cop-killer-search-haunted-hotel-used-MTV-show.html http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/26/pennsylvania-troopers-deny-rumored-affair-as-motive-for-eric-frein-state-trooper-shooting/20968474/ Quote HistoryQuoted: If Frein had believed the trooper was involved with his sister-in-law, it could help explain why he drove 25 miles to the Blooming Grove police barracks to carry out his deadly attack rather than pick a target closer to home. Frein drives 25 miles to shoot a trooper who lives 1/2 mile from his sister-in-law (who state the police states the trooper is friends with) in the pelvis when there is a closer police department in his own town. Pennsylvania Sate police spokesman Trooper Tom Kelly confirmed that Douglass and Melissa Frein are friends and there is no way to know whether Eric Frein believed that his sister-in-law was involved with the 31-year-old trooper until and unless they manage to arrest him. Melissa Frein lives less than half a mile away from Douglass in Olyphant, Pennsylvania and police admit the two knew each other. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771034/Police-hunting-survivalist-cop-killer-search-haunted-hotel-used-MTV-show.html http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/26/pennsylvania-troopers-deny-rumored-affair-as-motive-for-eric-frein-state-trooper-shooting/20968474/ |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 12:05:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder has FBI recalled any retired agents from the Eric Rudolph case to pump them for information about how they chased him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Wonder has FBI recalled any retired agents from the Eric Rudolph case to pump them for information about how they chased him. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 12:07:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was about to throw that baby RIGHT AT the encircling agents. Lon saved a lot of lives that day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. She was about to throw that baby RIGHT AT the encircling agents. Lon saved a lot of lives that day. I still get mad as hell thinking about that POS horuchi killing her, then the fed stops the state from bringing him to justice, then that POS gets promoted. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 12:13:09 AM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Ask Ethan, a 5 year old boy held hostage in Alabama, he could give you an example. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/04/nation/la-na-alabama-bunker-20130205 |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:04:05 AM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Ask Ethan, a 5 year old boy held hostage in Alabama, he could give you an example. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/04/nation/la-na-alabama-bunker-20130205 How many 5 y/o boys were killed at Waco? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:14:29 AM EDT
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.....then the fed stops the state from bringing him to justice, yea...kinda An en banch panel of the 9th circuit awarded the State the right to try Horiuchi in State court....unfortunately, by the time this occured there was a new county atty and he decided not to persue the charges.... |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 5:55:04 AM EDT
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After the leaves fall FLIR will be more effective.
But can't it be defeated by covering up with a space blanket, one of the ones with cammo on one side and the reflective surface on the other. Space blankets are supposed to contain body heat. If he moves far from the search area it may not be possible to get him till the first snow falls and tracking becomes easy. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 6:11:44 AM EDT
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Or dresses in Multicam, and impersonates one of the COPS looking for him......And walks out on his own....Just saying...
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Posted: 9/29/2014 6:20:02 AM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Ask Ethan, a 5 year old boy held hostage in Alabama, he could give you an example. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/04/nation/la-na-alabama-bunker-20130205 How many 5 y/o boys were killed at Waco? How many HRT agents from then do you think are still around 21 years later? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 7:54:45 AM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? The cell phone info is a week old now, as was the last sighting. He could be anywhere by now. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:08:39 AM EDT
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How do you know where he was shot? This new thing called the 'media'. Douglass was rushed to a hospital in Scranton where he had surgery for a pelvic wound. Douglass, meanwhile, had just arrived at the barracks and was shot in the pelvis as he walked toward Dickson. http://abcnews.go.com/US/pennsylvania-cop-shooter-hit-troopers-missed-90-seconds/story?id=25550050 http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/16/profile-of-gunman-who-ambushed-troopers-released/20963037/ |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:21:58 AM EDT
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Police: No Confirmed Sightings of Frein This Weekend
PRICE TOWNSHIP — The search for Eric Frein in Monroe County has been pretty similar over the past few days. It appeared most troopers were stationed in their cruisers on Snow Hill Road in Price Township Sunday night. Police could also be seen doing roving patrols in their vehicles. Earlier in the day much of the search was focused in the Delaware State Forest. Law enforcement headed into the forest on foot to look for the alleged cop killer. The search area remains just a few miles away from Frein’s family home in Canadensis, but state police said there were no confirmed sightings this weekend. Monday will be day 17 of the investigation. http://wnep.com/2014/09/28/police-no-confirmed-sightings-of-frein-this-weekend/ |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:24:42 AM EDT
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PSP release photo of Frein's vehicle. Not submerged in pond as reported. Looks like he got stuck in some mud.
FOX 29 ?@ FOX29philly PA State police released photos of Jeep left behind by shooting suspect Eric Frein. pic.twitter.com/HmYv4Id6tL 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:45:31 AM EDT
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What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Rescue of kidnapped kid off a school bus in south AL. Guy took kid into an underground bunker. HRT took over and carried out the rescue. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:48:01 AM EDT
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Ask Ethan, a 5 year old boy held hostage in Alabama, he could give you an example. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/04/nation/la-na-alabama-bunker-20130205 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Ask Ethan, a 5 year old boy held hostage in Alabama, he could give you an example. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/04/nation/la-na-alabama-bunker-20130205 The rescued some guy in Atlanta that was kidnapped by some drug cartel in North Carolina a year or two back. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 9:30:20 AM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Ask Ethan, a 5 year old boy held hostage in Alabama, he could give you an example. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/04/nation/la-na-alabama-bunker-20130205 How many 5 y/o boys were killed at Waco? As other have pointed out, how many agents are still active from 21 years ago at Waco. I would also put as much blame on Koresh as I would the FBI. The poster asked about "struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT (Hostage Rescue Team)", and I provided one and Bama has mentioned another. How many kids did Koresh allow to be killed? How many young girls were molested by that POS? The FBI operations there were stupid, but I won't put Koresh up as a hero either. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:02:25 AM EDT
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After the leaves fall FLIR will be more effective. But can't it be defeated by covering up with a space blanket, one of the ones with cammo on one side and the reflective surface on the other. Space blankets are supposed to contain body heat. If he moves far from the search area it may not be possible to get him till the first snow falls and tracking becomes easy. As a point of basic theory, that won't work. You need to have the reflective side out. If you are wrapped this thing, the blanket is going to heat up. The heat in the material of the space blanket is then going to transfer to the environment via convection and radiation. The camouflage side of the space blanket is going to have a thermal emissivity on the order of 0.8-0.9, and the heat will be visible to IR sensors. The reflective side has an emissivity of around 0.1, or less, and the heat will not be visible to IR sensors - instead an IR sensor is going to see the thermal radiation from the environment reflected off of the surface of the blanket, much like the way a mirror behaves in the optical spectrum. Someone with a FLIR can probably demonstrate this. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:07:36 AM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Ask Ethan, a 5 year old boy held hostage in Alabama, he could give you an example. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/04/nation/la-na-alabama-bunker-20130205 How many 5 y/o boys were killed at Waco? If I was a hostage in the US...well pretty much anywhere I think my top choice to help me would be the HRT. If I was hiding out with a target on my back from killing LE, HRT is one of the last teams I would want after me... |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:33:39 AM EDT
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Helicopters hovered so low over Pat Snively's home here that large trees swayed in the wind and she could see the faces of the pilots.
"It looked like Black Hawk Down, those helicopters," she said. Snively and her neighbors also lost power for several hours Saturday evening. PPL Electric reported that more than 70 customers lost power in the area; state police could not confirm that the outage was caused by wind from the helicopters. Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20140929_Manhunt_for_Frein_escalates_around_Snow_Hill_Falls_neighborhood_near_state_forest.html#HAkRHwHt71GC6tMq.99 |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:34:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yea...kinda An en banch panel of the 9th circuit awarded the State the right to try Horiuchi in State court....unfortunately, by the time this occured there was a new county atty and he decided not to persue the charges.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .....then the fed stops the state from bringing him to justice, yea...kinda An en banch panel of the 9th circuit awarded the State the right to try Horiuchi in State court....unfortunately, by the time this occured there was a new county atty and he decided not to persue the charges.... "justice delayed is justice denied" |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:36:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How do you know where he was shot? This new thing called the 'media'. Douglass was rushed to a hospital in Scranton where he had surgery for a pelvic wound. Douglass, meanwhile, had just arrived at the barracks and was shot in the pelvis as he walked toward Dickson. http://abcnews.go.com/US/pennsylvania-cop-shooter-hit-troopers-missed-90-seconds/story?id=25550050 http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/16/profile-of-gunman-who-ambushed-troopers-released/20963037/ |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:39:39 AM EDT
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Earlier today on the radio they said they have him narrowed down to a small area because he used his cell phone. I haven't seen anything online about it though-anyone else hear it? That was from the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame where they narrowed it down to a 5sq mile area. Now they have multiple search areas, some well outside of that 5sq area, but the main focus is still in a portion of the original 5sq mile area (se section from latest reports). Hopefully the hrt guys hang around and get this search done with much quicker. What makes you think they'd get it done quicker? I'm struggling to recall any example of a successful operation by HRT. Google Midland City. 
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