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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:31:39 AM EDT
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Anything with a Mauser action and a big hole in the end of the barrel.
Or that Ruger rifle that takes the M-14 mags. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:32:06 AM EDT
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I'm thinking if I had to walk out I'd want something like the .22 or .22 mag. If you're moving you are not going to have enough time in one place for snares and fish traps. I suppose you could stay in one spot long enough to stock up some food stuffs, and then move on to the the limits of your food supply. You're fucked if you run into a pissed bear, I'd assume that you want to make a reasonable amount of noise so you don't sneak up on something you can't deal with.
As mentioned many times it would depend on circumstance and location. If you're transported in there ala naked and afraid, a bigger gun would serve better to obtain hides for clothing. If you're dropped into the middle of kodiak island with a super high bear population, I'd want a model 70 in a 375 h&h. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 6:41:03 PM EDT
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Well, this firearm does use a rotary locking mechanism, so I am calling it a "bolt action". Anyone who recognizes this firearm knows it is PERFECT for the situation that OP has suggested. I'll take mine in 9.3x74R, 9.3x74R .222R, 12ga http://www.germanguns.com/images/journals/journal23_lrg.jpg Sadly, I don't think he will make the vierling now. I like it! |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 7:30:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mmm. Rabbit/marmot/squirrel random bird worth eating paste. Browning T-bolt for me. People who think you can't kill anything with a .22lr haven't killed many things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I am absolutely STUCK with a turn-bolt mauser style rifle, I'd take a .338 win mag. If I had MORE choice it'd more likely be an 1895 lever gun, in 45-70. Mmm. Rabbit/marmot/squirrel random bird worth eating paste. Browning T-bolt for me. People who think you can't kill anything with a .22lr haven't killed many things. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 7:32:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you! (Which one??  )Unlike most, I acknowledged that the wilderness was going to chew me up, so base on OP's question, I'm going out with a pretty rifle!  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In my current physical condition, I'm probably going to die, so I am doing it with a pretty rifle. .308 on milsurp 98 Mauser. http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/Marksman60/Project%20Rifles/308%20Carbine/Finished%20Dec%2013%202013/DSCN9057_zpsd0658964.jpg I would add iron sights, and for a scope, quality 1-4x. If I need more gun. .300 Win Mag. Interarms Mark-X action. http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/Marksman60/Project%20Rifles/300%20WinMag%20Mark%20X/DSCN9191_zps7cf288b2.jpg Thank you! (Which one?? )Unlike most, I acknowledged that the wilderness was going to chew me up, so base on OP's question, I'm going out with a pretty rifle! |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 7:36:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anything with a Mauser action and a big hole in the end of the barrel. Or that Ruger rifle that takes the M-14 mags. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 9:16:28 PM EDT
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Keep in mind any big game you kill if not eaten on the spot must be carried or defended from scavengers including bears. Alaska food cache, google it. Or you know, ask a homesteader. ETA - if a person who is stranded in the AK wilderness for 3 months isn't ingenuitive, what kind of rifle he has is not his only concern. (see Chris McCandless) IIRC He made it from april to mid august with a brick of .22 LR and 5 lbs of rice. Meals including an immature moose, lots of ptarmagin, and rabbits. and he died in the end,. But a bear did not kill him.... |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 1:22:16 AM EDT
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Keep in mind any big game you kill if not eaten on the spot must be carried or defended from scavengers including bears. Alaska food cache, google it. Or you know, ask a homesteader. ETA - if a person who is stranded in the AK wilderness for 3 months isn't ingenuitive, what kind of rifle he has is not his only concern. (see Chris McCandless) IIRC He made it from april to mid august with a brick of .22 LR and 5 lbs of rice. Meals including an immature moose, lots of ptarmagin, and rabbits. and he died in the end,. But a bear did not kill him.... TRUE! |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 1:30:56 PM EDT
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I'm thinking if I had to walk out I'd want something like the .22 or .22 mag. If you're moving you are not going to have enough time in one place for snares and fish traps. I suppose you could stay in one spot long enough to stock up some food stuffs, and then move on to the the limits of your food supply. You're fucked if you run into a pissed bear, I'd assume that you want to make a reasonable amount of noise so you don't sneak up on something you can't deal with. As mentioned many times it would depend on circumstance and location. If you're transported in there ala naked and afraid, a bigger gun would serve better to obtain hides for clothing. If you're dropped into the middle of kodiak island with a super high bear population, I'd want a model 70 in a 375 h&h. This, +1. |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 1:32:07 PM EDT
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probably an enfield .303
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Posted: 9/13/2014 12:45:36 AM EDT
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So much stainless, I like it.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 4:54:05 PM EDT
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I'd take a version of Finn Aagard's professional rifle in 9.3x62 instead of .30-06.
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Posted: 9/17/2014 12:16:03 PM EDT
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So much stainless, I like it. +1 |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 12:30:54 PM EDT
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Scoped Mossberg MVP 308 with about 8 twenty round ar-10 mags stuffed in my pocket. OP didn't say pocket had to be buttoned closed.
Short barrel. Fast handling. Light weight. Lots of ammo with few reloadings. Good caliber. 
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Posted: 9/17/2014 1:28:45 PM EDT
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Scoped Mossberg MVP 308 with about 8 twenty round ar-10 mags stuffed in my pocket. OP didn't say pocket had to be buttoned closed. Short barrel. Fast handling. Light weight. Lots of ammo with few reloadings. Good caliber. http://www.lipseys.net/images/MB27739.jpg?maxwidth=520 That looks ok. I'll wait till they make a .358 win version. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 4:35:35 PM EDT
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People who think you must turn small game into paste with a real rifle haven't practiced marksmanship enough. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I am absolutely STUCK with a turn-bolt mauser style rifle, I'd take a .338 win mag. If I had MORE choice it'd more likely be an 1895 lever gun, in 45-70. Mmm. Rabbit/marmot/squirrel random bird worth eating paste. Browning T-bolt for me. People who think you can't kill anything with a .22lr haven't killed many things. Yeah, the thousands of prairie dogs I've shot from 400+ yards that explode in bits from 5.56 mean nothing. Good luck feeding yourself for any length of time with 2 boxes of ammo for your 375 H&H. Why am I not surprised that someone who says "real rifle" and thinks he can make it in the bush in Alaska with a couple of boxes of ammo has that for an avatar? Which ones are for girls? I forgot. The light, fast ones, or the huge lumbering ones that can barely negotiate a curve? 
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Posted: 9/17/2014 6:35:00 PM EDT
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Yeah, the thousands of prairie dogs I've shot from 400+ yards that explode in bits from 5.56 mean nothing. Good luck feeding yourself for any length of time with 2 boxes of ammo for your 375 H&H. Why am I not surprised that someone who says "real rifle" and thinks he can make it in the bush in Alaska with a couple of boxes of ammo has that for an avatar? Which ones are for girls? I forgot. The light, fast ones, or the huge lumbering ones that can barely negotiate a curve?
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If I am absolutely STUCK with a turn-bolt mauser style rifle, I'd take a .338 win mag. If I had MORE choice it'd more likely be an 1895 lever gun, in 45-70. Mmm. Rabbit/marmot/squirrel random bird worth eating paste. Browning T-bolt for me. People who think you can't kill anything with a .22lr haven't killed many things. Yeah, the thousands of prairie dogs I've shot from 400+ yards that explode in bits from 5.56 mean nothing. Good luck feeding yourself for any length of time with 2 boxes of ammo for your 375 H&H. Why am I not surprised that someone who says "real rifle" and thinks he can make it in the bush in Alaska with a couple of boxes of ammo has that for an avatar? Which ones are for girls? I forgot. The light, fast ones, or the huge lumbering ones that can barely negotiate a curve?
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Posted: 9/17/2014 6:57:42 PM EDT
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As I'm sure has been posted many times in this thread, (I didn't bother reading all 8 pages).
Rem 700 in .308 |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 7:15:20 PM EDT
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Well since I live here, and have an idea of the conditions..I will take my stainless/braked 700 in 300 RUM and all the bullets my pockets hold. since its AK. I will be shooting a moose every 4 days for both food and fresh hide for sleeping/shelter as I move. since most movement is going to have to be up on the ridge lines where you can actually walk, I may get lucky and add a caribou or sheep here or there as well....
For those who are going with smaller caliber rifles...have you thought about what happens when you run into a good sized bear in tight quarters and not sitting in a tree stand?..trust me under 300 win isn't big enough when you are eye to eye with a big boar, especially when its a bolt gun.... |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 9:02:06 PM EDT
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That looks ok. I'll wait till they make a .358 win version. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Scoped Mossberg MVP 308 with about 8 twenty round ar-10 mags stuffed in my pocket. OP didn't say pocket had to be buttoned closed. Short barrel. Fast handling. Light weight. Lots of ammo with few reloadings. Good caliber. http://www.lipseys.net/images/MB27739.jpg?maxwidth=520 That looks ok. I'll wait till they make a .358 win version. That would be a L-O-N-G wait. 
Swapping the barrel would be faster, cheaper and easier than waiting. 
The MVP uses the same barrel and lock nut technology as Savage and Remington 783, just saying
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Posted: 9/17/2014 9:49:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well since I live here, and have an idea of the conditions..I will take my stainless/braked 700 in 300 RUM and all the bullets my pockets hold. since its AK. I will be shooting a moose every 4 days for both food and fresh hide for sleeping/shelter as I move. since most movement is going to have to be up on the ridge lines where you can actually walk, I may get lucky and add a caribou or sheep here or there as well.... For those who are going with smaller caliber rifles...have you thought about what happens when you run into a good sized bear in tight quarters and not sitting in a tree stand?..trust me under 300 win isn't big enough when you are eye to eye with a big boar, especially when its a bolt gun.... Bow and arrow My grandma and mom spent a lot of time in fish-camp alone with plenty of bears making a visit. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 10:31:17 PM EDT
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Keep in mind any big game you kill if not eaten on the spot must be carried or defended from scavengers including bears. Alaska food cache, google it. Or you know, ask a homesteader. ETA - if a person who is stranded in the AK wilderness for 3 months isn't ingenuitive, what kind of rifle he has is not his only concern. (see Chris McCandless) IIRC He made it from april to mid august with a brick of .22 LR and 5 lbs of rice. Meals including an immature moose, lots of ptarmagin, and rabbits. and he died in the end,. But a bear did not kill him.... Which is exactly my point. Knowledge and fieldcraft go a long way. There are plenty of other reasons people get killed in the bush here. Hell, the PJ's from the rescue squadron up here are always busy picking up people who take the scope and magnitude of this place for granted. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 10:45:27 PM EDT
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Well since I live here, and have an idea of the conditions..I will take my stainless/braked 700 in 300 RUM and all the bullets my pockets hold. since its AK. I will be shooting a moose every 4 days for both food and fresh hide for sleeping/shelter as I move. since most movement is going to have to be up on the ridge lines where you can actually walk, I may get lucky and add a caribou or sheep here or there as well.... For those who are going with smaller caliber rifles...have you thought about what happens when you run into a good sized bear in tight quarters and not sitting in a tree stand?..trust me under 300 win isn't big enough when you are eye to eye with a big boar, especially when its a bolt gun.... In the spirit of this thread, how many 300 RUM rounds could you fit in a pocket? 20 at most? If you want to live in the wilderness of Alaska for 3 months with 20 rounds be my guest. Bears are a risk, but not as big as people think. People backpack into the back woods of AK all the time. Me, I'll take 300+ rounds of .22 mag and kill all the game I can. While not ideal, I bet a .22 mag to the face of a bear would make it charge is mind. .22 mag is a lot more powerful than people think. A 40 grain solid will penetrate the skull of a large hog at under 100 yards. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 10:48:45 PM EDT
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Stainless Browning A-Bolt 300mag w/Boss +1 Without the Boss on mine please. +2 without boss also |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 10:54:17 PM EDT
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Ruger 77/44
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Posted: 9/17/2014 10:54:29 PM EDT
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[div style='text-align: right;'] In the spirit of this thread, how many 300 RUM rounds could you fit in a pocket? 20 at most? If you want to live in the wilderness of Alaska for 3 months with 20 rounds be my guest. Bears are a risk, but not as big as people think. People backpack into the back woods of AK all the time. Me, I'll take 300+ rounds of .22 mag and kill all the game I can. While not ideal, I bet a .22 mag to the face of a bear would make it charge is mind. .22 mag is a lot more powerful than people think. A 40 grain solid will penetrate the skull of a large hog at under 100 yards. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well since I live here, and have an idea of the conditions..I will take my stainless/braked 700 in 300 RUM and all the bullets my pockets hold. since its AK. I will be shooting a moose every 4 days for both food and fresh hide for sleeping/shelter as I move. since most movement is going to have to be up on the ridge lines where you can actually walk, I may get lucky and add a caribou or sheep here or there as well.... For those who are going with smaller caliber rifles...have you thought about what happens when you run into a good sized bear in tight quarters and not sitting in a tree stand?..trust me under 300 win isn't big enough when you are eye to eye with a big boar, especially when its a bolt gun.... In the spirit of this thread, how many 300 RUM rounds could you fit in a pocket? 20 at most? If you want to live in the wilderness of Alaska for 3 months with 20 rounds be my guest. Bears are a risk, but not as big as people think. People backpack into the back woods of AK all the time. Me, I'll take 300+ rounds of .22 mag and kill all the game I can. While not ideal, I bet a .22 mag to the face of a bear would make it charge is mind. .22 mag is a lot more powerful than people think. A 40 grain solid will penetrate the skull of a large hog at under 100 yards. The idea that a .22 Mag would be effective against a charging bear is laughable. One can trap for small game and use the rifle for larger game or defence. I'm also pretty sure that one can fit more than 20 rifle cartridges in a cargo pocket. I know I can. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 10:58:49 PM EDT
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Win 70 Alaskan in 375h&h magnum. +100. Either .375 H&H or 458 Win Mag for the win. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:01:06 PM EDT
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The idea that a .22 Mag would be effective against a charging bear is laughable. One can trap for small game and use the rifle for larger game or defence. I'm also pretty sure that one can fit more than 20 rifle cartridges in a cargo pocket. I know I can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well since I live here, and have an idea of the conditions..I will take my stainless/braked 700 in 300 RUM and all the bullets my pockets hold. since its AK. I will be shooting a moose every 4 days for both food and fresh hide for sleeping/shelter as I move. since most movement is going to have to be up on the ridge lines where you can actually walk, I may get lucky and add a caribou or sheep here or there as well.... For those who are going with smaller caliber rifles...have you thought about what happens when you run into a good sized bear in tight quarters and not sitting in a tree stand?..trust me under 300 win isn't big enough when you are eye to eye with a big boar, especially when its a bolt gun.... In the spirit of this thread, how many 300 RUM rounds could you fit in a pocket? 20 at most? If you want to live in the wilderness of Alaska for 3 months with 20 rounds be my guest. Bears are a risk, but not as big as people think. People backpack into the back woods of AK all the time. Me, I'll take 300+ rounds of .22 mag and kill all the game I can. While not ideal, I bet a .22 mag to the face of a bear would make it charge is mind. .22 mag is a lot more powerful than people think. A 40 grain solid will penetrate the skull of a large hog at under 100 yards. The idea that a .22 Mag would be effective against a charging bear is laughable. One can trap for small game and use the rifle for larger game or defence. I'm also pretty sure that one can fit more than 20 rifle cartridges in a cargo pocket. I know I can. Maybe, but your scenario of facing a charging bear to begin with would be extremely rare. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:04:42 PM EDT
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8 MM Mauser with plenty of ammo
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:05:49 PM EDT
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.308 ar. Mag dumps and spares for any bigger critters. Bolt action al la the UK? |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:06:31 PM EDT
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Well since I live here, and have an idea of the conditions..I will take my stainless/braked 700 in 300 RUM and all the bullets my pockets hold. since its AK. I will be shooting a moose every 4 days for both food and fresh hide for sleeping/shelter as I move. since most movement is going to have to be up on the ridge lines where you can actually walk, I may get lucky and add a caribou or sheep here or there as well.... For those who are going with smaller caliber rifles...have you thought about what happens when you run into a good sized bear in tight quarters and not sitting in a tree stand?..trust me under 300 win isn't big enough when you are eye to eye with a big boar, especially when its a bolt gun.... In the spirit of this thread, how many 300 RUM rounds could you fit in a pocket? 20 at most? If you want to live in the wilderness of Alaska for 3 months with 20 rounds be my guest. Bears are a risk, but not as big as people think. People backpack into the back woods of AK all the time. Me, I'll take 300+ rounds of .22 mag and kill all the game I can. While not ideal, I bet a .22 mag to the face of a bear would make it charge is mind. .22 mag is a lot more powerful than people think. A 40 grain solid will penetrate the skull of a large hog at under 100 yards. The idea that a .22 Mag would be effective against a charging bear is laughable. One can trap for small game and use the rifle for larger game or defence. I'm also pretty sure that one can fit more than 20 rifle cartridges in a cargo pocket. I know I can. Maybe, but your scenario of facing a charging bear to begin with would be extremely rare. True enough (although it's not my scenario), but if you end up in that situation you're kinda screwed if all you have is a .22. Better to have something in a sufficnelty powerful caliber. It doesn't need to be a big magnum or large bore cartridge, but you need something better than a .22. Ideally, you'd have something like a drilling or vierling. Two rifle barrels in a decent cartridge, a .22 barrel for small stuff, signaling, etc., and maybe a shotgun barrel for wingshooting (and it could also be used with slugs against bears). |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:09:52 PM EDT
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Spears Bow and arrow My grandma and mom spent a lot of time in fish-camp alone with plenty of bears making a visit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well since I live here, and have an idea of the conditions..I will take my stainless/braked 700 in 300 RUM and all the bullets my pockets hold. since its AK. I will be shooting a moose every 4 days for both food and fresh hide for sleeping/shelter as I move. since most movement is going to have to be up on the ridge lines where you can actually walk, I may get lucky and add a caribou or sheep here or there as well.... For those who are going with smaller caliber rifles...have you thought about what happens when you run into a good sized bear in tight quarters and not sitting in a tree stand?..trust me under 300 win isn't big enough when you are eye to eye with a big boar, especially when its a bolt gun.... Bow and arrow My grandma and mom spent a lot of time in fish-camp alone with plenty of bears making a visit. So do they still use spears and bows or do they carry rifles now? I don't deny that anything can kill anything when everything is done right and a little good luck is thrown in.. but if I crash land in the middle of AK and theres a spear, a bow/arrow ,a high powered rifle, and a 22 laying there on the ground, I am grabbing the hi powered rifle and all the ammo I can throw in my pocket..but thats just me... |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:23:17 PM EDT
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Yeah probably a Mossberg MVP Patrol...not sure of which caliber yet, probably .308.
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:35:12 PM EDT
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A military Mauser 98 action
one of the std cartridges synthetic stock nickel finish good iron sights weapon mounted flashlight Or Stainless Ruger GSR |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:42:04 PM EDT
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Something medium weight with a plastic stock, decent glass and iron sights.
.308 would suit me fine. On second thought, I might go for a pocket full of .22 WMR in a rifle like I described above. Keep me fed plenty well and even wolves and bears won't like getting stung if I'm stupid enough to get close to them. It's not like I'd be fighting off wave attacks of grizzlies, polar bear cavalry or Posleen. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 12:38:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/18/2014 12:55:28 AM EDT
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Kimber Montana in 30-06 with a NF 2.5-10x24, with a pocket full of NP.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 8:04:01 PM EDT
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That would be a L-O-N-G wait.
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Scoped Mossberg MVP 308 with about 8 twenty round ar-10 mags stuffed in my pocket. OP didn't say pocket had to be buttoned closed. Short barrel. Fast handling. Light weight. Lots of ammo with few reloadings. Good caliber. http://www.lipseys.net/images/MB27739.jpg?maxwidth=520 That looks ok. I'll wait till they make a .358 win version. That would be a L-O-N-G wait.
Swapping the barrel would be faster, cheaper and easier than waiting.
The MVP uses the same barrel and lock nut technology as Savage and Remington 783, just saying ORLY??? hmmmm. It'd go well with me .358 FAL. |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 2:22:48 AM EDT
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Scoped Mossberg MVP 308 with about 8 twenty round ar-10 mags stuffed in my pocket. OP didn't say pocket had to be buttoned closed. Short barrel. Fast handling. Light weight. Lots of ammo with few reloadings. Good caliber. http://www.lipseys.net/images/MB27739.jpg?maxwidth=520 That looks ok. I'll wait till they make a .358 win version. That would be a L-O-N-G wait.
Swapping the barrel would be faster, cheaper and easier than waiting.
The MVP uses the same barrel and lock nut technology as Savage and Remington 783, just saying ORLY??? hmmmm. It'd go well with me .358 FAL. YESRLY !
.358 ? Hmmm... I may have to rethink that .45 Raptor barrel idea I been kicking around. |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 5:58:15 AM EDT
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Ruger Lefthanded GSR 308 with 165 grain barnes, with a Leupold Scout scope or an aimpoint T1
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Posted: 9/20/2014 1:15:04 AM EDT
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Scoped Mossberg MVP 308 with about 8 twenty round ar-10 mags stuffed in my pocket. OP didn't say pocket had to be buttoned closed. Short barrel. Fast handling. Light weight. Lots of ammo with few reloadings. Good caliber. http://www.lipseys.net/images/MB27739.jpg?maxwidth=520 That looks ok. I'll wait till they make a .358 win version. That would be a L-O-N-G wait.
Swapping the barrel would be faster, cheaper and easier than waiting.
The MVP uses the same barrel and lock nut technology as Savage and Remington 783, just saying ORLY??? hmmmm. It'd go well with me .358 FAL. YESRLY !
.358 ? Hmmm... I may have to rethink that .45 Raptor barrel idea I been kicking around. What is the plan? |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 3:52:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2014 4:02:52 PM EDT
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Not a bolt action but I'd take a .22/12ga OU.
Slugs could take down bigger game and shot and the .22 smaller game. I wouldn't count on bagging lots of big game anyway. Much easier to get squirrels and rabbits. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 4:06:57 PM EDT
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Remington 700 CDL .35 Whelen
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Posted: 9/20/2014 4:32:23 PM EDT
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M44. This, but I'd rather have a large caliber lever instead. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 4:49:14 PM EDT
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I have taken grouse and seen many others taken out of trees with deer rifles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah those cannons will be great when your bellys empty and all you see is birds and small game. I have taken grouse and seen many others taken out of trees with deer rifles. Throw in a a bunch of small game loads ala Townsend Whelen* and shoot all the small game you need. *my version (from Lyman) for the 30/06 uses a 150 grain Hornady soft point over 18 grains of Unique. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 6:36:55 PM EDT
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I'm not sure what your point is here. Average 3 mph foot speed, walk a conservative 12 hours a day, for 90 days, and you've covered over 3000 miles. Cut it in half and you've still covered >1500 miles. Exactly what "survival fantasy" are you trying to debunk here? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Most of the 185 Sky Wagons and Beavers I have flown on didn't have an emergency food supply that would sustain you. Trapping for food while hiking out wouldn't expedite your rate of travel. Walking out wouldn't be a cake walk even if you knew where you were headed. Icy stream crossings and muskeg don't make for fast foot travel. I read about a guy that left a road house near Circle to fish a lake and when he started back he took a "short cut" to avoid retracing his steps and get him around a swampy section of the trail He thought the stream he was following would join the main river beside the road. It did but in 200 miles. He walked out 67 days later and had lost 70 pounds. When reality sets in survival fantasies don't amount to much. I'm not sure what your point is here. Average 3 mph foot speed, walk a conservative 12 hours a day, for 90 days, and you've covered over 3000 miles. Cut it in half and you've still covered >1500 miles. Exactly what "survival fantasy" are you trying to debunk here? I thought of this yesterday and it gave me a little chuckle. There is a side canyon on the mountain behind my place that I have been wanting to explore to see if it holds any water. Last Thursday a friend and I left my ATV at the mouth and we took his Jeep and parked it on a ridge above at about ten thousand feet and started down the couple thousand foot decent into the canyon. It was steep but relatively easy going at first. That is until we got half way down to a section we couldn't see from where we started. The canyon narrowed and we ran into REALLY steep rock slides that stretched for hundreds of feet up and down the mountain side. Every step had a chance of starting all of that jagged rock moving which for me at least increased the pucker factor considerably. When we finally reached the bottom it was choked with willows and rosebushes which tore me to shreds. There was blood dripping off me every where like I had just shook hands with a babcat and there was a long way to go through that shit yet. (By the way the only liquid in the fucker was the blood that dripped off me.) So we knew our destination and it was all down hill and I thought it would be an easy hike out. We still didn't come close to making one mile per hour and I didn't think I had another couple miles in me. But to be honest we didn't carry a bolt action, just a model 94 Winchester. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:34:18 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the replies.
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Posted: 10/17/2014 1:15:56 AM EDT
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bump for October.
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