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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:40:37 PM EDT
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Taking a Political science class so I am reading about our enemy. What a load of trash. It is the petty writings of a man filled with avarice, hate, and jealously. Not only after 150 years and essentially all of Marx's theories being proved wrong people still believe in communism and socialism. Nailed it Jealousy |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:43:47 PM EDT
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Taking a Political science class so I am reading about our enemy. What a load of trash. It is the petty writings of a man filled with avarice, hate, and jealously. Not only after 150 years and essentially all of Marx's theories being proved wrong people still believe in communism and socialism. Nailed it Jealousy Marx's mom once said(loosely) "I wish Karl was more concerned about acquiring capital rather than writing about it". His average income was about 300 pounds a year about 3x the average working man. And that money...wait for it... came from Engels who owned a factory. . |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:44:30 PM EDT
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Bending economics to fit a social agenda.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:45:29 PM EDT
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Workers of the world unite. All you have is your chains to lose.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:45:50 PM EDT
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What did you expect from a man who was too lazy to provide for his own family.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:45:56 PM EDT
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Bending economics to fit a social agenda. Nothing more. He never talks about economics at all really or at least an alternative economic model. It was pretty much "tear down capitalism" and then what? |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:47:46 PM EDT
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What did you expect from a man who was too lazy to provide for his own family. I know. I mentioned that he never worked in his entire life and was on the dole. My professor said he "worked", I replied that he slept all day drank and could not even finish Das Kapital, his only project at the time. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:52:20 PM EDT
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He never talks about economics at all really or at least an alternative economic model. It was pretty much "tear down capitalism" and then what? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bending economics to fit a social agenda. Nothing more. He never talks about economics at all really or at least an alternative economic model. It was pretty much "tear down capitalism" and then what? 1) Write about tearing down capitalism 2) tear down capitalism 3) ????? 4) Profit Oh, wait, WTF |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:52:24 PM EDT
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His average income was about 300 pounds a year about 3x the average working man. And that money...wait for it... came from Engels who owned a factory. . I never knew that, but I do not doubt it. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:54:06 PM EDT
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It's a pipe dream sold to the foolish and unintellegent in order to become powerful.
(both the democrats platform and the Communist Manifesto) |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:54:44 PM EDT
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It's a pipe dream sold to the foolish and unintellegent in order to become powerful. (both the democrats platform and the Communist Manifesto) Is there a difference? |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 9:58:05 PM EDT
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He was a lowlife scum, with no integrity who liked to impregnate house maids. Fuck be upon him.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:00:06 PM EDT
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Not sure I would call it trash... Was however written to be implemented in an established industrial nation.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:02:19 PM EDT
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I have owned a copy for over a year. I have made several attempts to read it. I am still not past page 20.
The class warfare and bullshit makes my head hurt. It reads like it was written by an angry child. The man definitely had a hard on for successful people. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:03:53 PM EDT
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It's a pipe dream sold to the foolish and unintellegent in order to become powerful. (both the democrats platform and the Communist Manifesto) Is there a difference? None. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:06:00 PM EDT
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One of the most, if not THE most influential political books of the modern era.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:06:48 PM EDT
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Taking a Political science class so I am reading about our enemy. What a load of trash. It is the petty writings of a man filled with avarice, hate, and jealously. Not only after 150 years and essentially all of Marx's theories being proved wrong people still believe in communism and socialism. I've never read it, but from what I have learned about Marx I doubt it is that simple. He wasn't jealous himself he simply wrote it to get people to give up everything to the few(ie. his rich partner). To convince people that being a broke loser and that all of their trouble are created by other people is acceptable. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:07:45 PM EDT
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One of the most, if not THE most influential political books of the modern era. I am not saying it is not influential it is. It appeals to the mouth breathers of our population and the is used as a political blueprint by ambitious and corrupt politicians. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:07:46 PM EDT
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What's the problem, it works great if you have the need but not the ability.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:08:45 PM EDT
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He never talks about economics at all really or at least an alternative economic model. It was pretty much "tear down capitalism" and then what? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bending economics to fit a social agenda. Nothing more. He never talks about economics at all really or at least an alternative economic model. It was pretty much "tear down capitalism" and then what? No shit man, you read all three volumes of capital? Oh you haven't? Well, ok then... Marx and Engels, wrote, in an introduction to the 1872 edition of the manifesto, that it was in some ways already outdated, and that many parts of it would be different if they were to re-write it then, most importantly they say; "The practical application of the principles will depend, as the Manifesto itself states, everywhere and at all times, on the historical conditions for the time being existing...". Reading the communist manifesto and saying that you understand Marx is like reading a Jesus tract and saying you're a biblical scholar. But by all means, allow the echo chamber to continue... |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:09:28 PM EDT
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It's a pipe dream sold to the foolish and unintellegent in order to become powerful. (both the democrats platform and the Communist Manifesto) Is there a difference? The Democrat's platform is to communism as HIV is to AIDS. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:14:51 PM EDT
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No shit man, you read all three volumes of capital? Oh you haven't? Well, ok then... Marx and Engels, wrote, in an introduction to the 1872 edition of the manifesto, that it was in some ways already outdated, and that many parts of it would be different if they were to re-write it then, most importantly they say; "The practical application of the principles will depend, as the Manifesto itself states, everywhere and at all times, on the historical conditions for the time being existing...". Reading the communist manifesto and saying that you understand Marx is like reading a Jesus tract and saying you're a biblical scholar. But by all means, allow the echo chamber to continue... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bending economics to fit a social agenda. Nothing more. He never talks about economics at all really or at least an alternative economic model. It was pretty much "tear down capitalism" and then what? No shit man, you read all three volumes of capital? Oh you haven't? Well, ok then... Marx and Engels, wrote, in an introduction to the 1872 edition of the manifesto, that it was in some ways already outdated, and that many parts of it would be different if they were to re-write it then, most importantly they say; "The practical application of the principles will depend, as the Manifesto itself states, everywhere and at all times, on the historical conditions for the time being existing...". Reading the communist manifesto and saying that you understand Marx is like reading a Jesus tract and saying you're a biblical scholar. But by all means, allow the echo chamber to continue... I know I can't stand to read 800+ pages of Das Kapitol, very few people have actually read all of it. I am not saying I understand all of his inner working or that I know ever little intricate detail about his philosophy, I don't. But this manifesto is mainly an attack on early British and French industrialism. Being his overt attacks on money/property is his own projections on how recklessly irresponsible with money he actually was. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:16:50 PM EDT
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The first political book I ever read since I had a hard on for the USSR. I used to agree with a lot of it until I got a job. As simple as it sounds it changes your perspective on a lot of things.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:17:33 PM EDT
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and to think Marx spent a lot of time compiling so called evidence to back it up. think selective reading, making the facts fit your theory kind of thing.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:18:50 PM EDT
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What did you expect from a man who was too lazy to provide for his own family. that was all the vogue for the time.........and now apparently, now even more so if you look at the welfare state. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:19:36 PM EDT
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I know I can't stand to read 800+ pages of Das Kapitol, very few people have actually read all of it. I am not saying I understand all of his inner working or that I know ever little intricate detail about his philosophy, I don't. But this manifesto is mainly an attack on early British and French industrialism. Being his overt attacks on money/property is his own projections on how recklessly irresponsible with money he actually was. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bending economics to fit a social agenda. Nothing more. He never talks about economics at all really or at least an alternative economic model. It was pretty much "tear down capitalism" and then what? No shit man, you read all three volumes of capital? Oh you haven't? Well, ok then... Marx and Engels, wrote, in an introduction to the 1872 edition of the manifesto, that it was in some ways already outdated, and that many parts of it would be different if they were to re-write it then, most importantly they say; "The practical application of the principles will depend, as the Manifesto itself states, everywhere and at all times, on the historical conditions for the time being existing...". Reading the communist manifesto and saying that you understand Marx is like reading a Jesus tract and saying you're a biblical scholar. But by all means, allow the echo chamber to continue... I know I can't stand to read 800+ pages of Das Kapitol, very few people have actually read all of it. I am not saying I understand all of his inner working or that I know ever little intricate detail about his philosophy, I don't. But this manifesto is mainly an attack on early British and French industrialism. Being his overt attacks on money/property is his own projections on how recklessly irresponsible with money he actually was. You say he never talks about economics. He wrote an unfinished, massive, multi-volume text explicitly devoted to economics. Thats all I'm saying. The communist manifesto wasn't meant to fill the same purpose as Capital. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:20:46 PM EDT
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and to think Marx spent a lot of time compiling so called evidence to back it up. think selective reading, making the facts fit your theory kind of thing. From my reading I don't think he actually tried to actually prove any of his theories. I do agree with him about child labor in factories. But he never disapproves or says anything about child labor on farms, which was common practice at the time. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:21:39 PM EDT
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You say he never talks about economics. He wrote an unfinished, massive, multi-volume text explicitly devoted to economics. Thats all I'm saying. The communist manifesto wasn't meant to fill the same purpose as Capital. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bending economics to fit a social agenda. Nothing more. He never talks about economics at all really or at least an alternative economic model. It was pretty much "tear down capitalism" and then what? No shit man, you read all three volumes of capital? Oh you haven't? Well, ok then... Marx and Engels, wrote, in an introduction to the 1872 edition of the manifesto, that it was in some ways already outdated, and that many parts of it would be different if they were to re-write it then, most importantly they say; "The practical application of the principles will depend, as the Manifesto itself states, everywhere and at all times, on the historical conditions for the time being existing...". Reading the communist manifesto and saying that you understand Marx is like reading a Jesus tract and saying you're a biblical scholar. But by all means, allow the echo chamber to continue... I know I can't stand to read 800+ pages of Das Kapitol, very few people have actually read all of it. I am not saying I understand all of his inner working or that I know ever little intricate detail about his philosophy, I don't. But this manifesto is mainly an attack on early British and French industrialism. Being his overt attacks on money/property is his own projections on how recklessly irresponsible with money he actually was. You say he never talks about economics. He wrote an unfinished, massive, multi-volume text explicitly devoted to economics. Thats all I'm saying. The communist manifesto wasn't meant to fill the same purpose as Capital. Yeah I get that. He spent 80 odd pages attacking capitalism he could at least write a few pages about an alternative. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:24:07 PM EDT
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:24:11 PM EDT
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The truly tragic thing is when people actually try to carry out his ideas on the rest of the world. Millions of innocent people died because of his ideology and the sad thing is the leftists still want to keep trying.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:25:16 PM EDT
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:27:33 PM EDT
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The truly tragic thing is when people actually try to carry out his ideas on the rest of the world. Millions of innocent people died because of his ideology and the sad thing is the leftists still want to keep trying. My biggest problem with socialism/communism is that it has to be forced and the "people" have to be subjugated for the plan to "work". In a free society you can chose to be a communist if you so choose but in a communist system there can be no alternatives because it threatens the system. "Perfection is the enemy of man" |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:29:29 PM EDT
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Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. Communism is the 4th step is social evolution after capitalism. According to resident socialists, communism has failed because the countries it has been implemented in were too "poor" for the system to work. America has the built up property for communism to actually work! |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:29:57 PM EDT
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I am not saying it is not influential it is. It appeals to the mouth breathers of our population and the is used as a political blueprint by ambitious and corrupt politicians. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One of the most, if not THE most influential political books of the modern era. I am not saying it is not influential it is. It appeals to the mouth breathers of our population and the is used as a political blueprint by ambitious and corrupt politicians. I get what you're saying, but you gotta look at it like its the fucking Book of the Dead. The entire religion and culture and ideology of the Left springs from its pages. I bet you could play 6 Degree of Communist Manifesto with just about every soundbite coming out of 90% of politicians these days. Its a frighteningly influential book. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:30:36 PM EDT
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My biggest problem with socialism/communism is that it has to be forced and the "people" have to be subjugated for the plan to "work". In a free society you can chose to be a communist if you so choose but in a communist system there can be no alternatives because it threatens the system. "Perfection is the enemy of man" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The truly tragic thing is when people actually try to carry out his ideas on the rest of the world. Millions of innocent people died because of his ideology and the sad thing is the leftists still want to keep trying. My biggest problem with socialism/communism is that it has to be forced and the "people" have to be subjugated for the plan to "work". In a free society you can chose to be a communist if you so choose but in a communist system there can be no alternatives because it threatens the system. "Perfection is the enemy of man" And to add on to that, if the leftists have to use force or coercion, then what does that say about their intentions? I try to ask impressionable people that question to convince them that leftism will not work. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:31:20 PM EDT
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Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. They don't care if it really works, they just want free shit and power over others. They are truly sycophantic followers of a genocidal cult. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:32:38 PM EDT
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It ain't just Communist anymore. Trotskyists don't like Marxist-Leninists, Marxist-Leninists don't like Maoists, and Thirld Worldists hate everyone.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:33:49 PM EDT
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The truly tragic thing is when people actually try to carry out his ideas on the rest of the world. Millions of innocent people died because of his ideology and the sad thing is the leftists still want to keep trying. Well, the ultimate debate in communist "theology" is whether the war can actually be won and a steady state of communism instilled vs. a persistent revolution to overthrow the bourgeoisie (aka "previous regime who profited too greatly from communist perks"). The entire philosophy is a crock of shit, yet there are probably more studies devoted to it than all forms of capitalism combined. I believe that the real class warfare is between academia and the private sector. Academia feels entitled for having educated successful private sector individuals who have made millions while adding value to society. Academia's only value add to society is the education necessary to move it forward. As such, leftist academia seeks to divide and conquer by polarizing groups - private sector vs. public sector; black vs. white; straight vs. gay; rich vs. poor; etc. We're all being had by the "master planners". Has anyone here read "The Naked Communist"? While I don't agree with everyone Skousen presents (namely the focus on religion), it offers an excellent explanation of what humanity is dealing with. To summarize, most people helped the communists because they thought they were doing something to better humanity. There is no greater temptation than acting on something believing that your contribution will forever change mankind's history. The collectivist viewpoint is extremely contagious. In the end, it only causes death and destruction. "But I thought I was helping the world" - said every communist and commie sympathizer. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:36:00 PM EDT
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They don't care if it really works, they just want free shit and power over others. They are truly sycophantic followers of a genocidal cult. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. They don't care if it really works, they just want free shit and power over others. They are truly sycophantic followers of a genocidal cult. What is ironic is that Marxist/leftist ideas actually concentrate money and power to the bourgeois. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:38:36 PM EDT
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Regardless if you agree, it's important to read those works. I'd include 'Mein Kempf' and the Qu'ran on my reading list too.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:39:25 PM EDT
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What is ironic is that Marxist/leftist ideas actually concentrate money and power to the bourgeois. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. They don't care if it really works, they just want free shit and power over others. They are truly sycophantic followers of a genocidal cult. What is ironic is that Marxist/leftist ideas actually concentrate money and power to the bourgeois. Nope not the Bourgeois. To an Oligarchy. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:39:40 PM EDT
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance Obamacare |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:39:48 PM EDT
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And to add on to that, if the leftists have to use force or coercion, then what does that say about their intentions? I try to ask impressionable people that question to convince them that leftism will not work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The truly tragic thing is when people actually try to carry out his ideas on the rest of the world. Millions of innocent people died because of his ideology and the sad thing is the leftists still want to keep trying. My biggest problem with socialism/communism is that it has to be forced and the "people" have to be subjugated for the plan to "work". In a free society you can chose to be a communist if you so choose but in a communist system there can be no alternatives because it threatens the system. "Perfection is the enemy of man" And to add on to that, if the leftists have to use force or coercion, then what does that say about their intentions? I try to ask impressionable people that question to convince them that leftism will not work. Do you think that there is any social arrangement devoid of force and coercion? |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:41:00 PM EDT
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Regardless if you agree, it's important to read those works. I'd include 'Mein Kempf' and the Qu'ran on my reading list too. Read them? Sure. But also understand why these ideologies can never work under real conditions. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:42:09 PM EDT
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No shit man, you read all three volumes of capital? Oh you haven't? Well, ok then... Marx and Engels, wrote, in an introduction to the 1872 edition of the manifesto, that it was in some ways already outdated, and that many parts of it would be different if they were to re-write it then, most importantly they say; "The practical application of the principles will depend, as the Manifesto itself states, everywhere and at all times, on the historical conditions for the time being existing...". Reading the communist manifesto and saying that you understand Marx is like reading a Jesus tract and saying you're a biblical scholar. But by all means, allow the echo chamber to continue... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bending economics to fit a social agenda. Nothing more. He never talks about economics at all really or at least an alternative economic model. It was pretty much "tear down capitalism" and then what? No shit man, you read all three volumes of capital? Oh you haven't? Well, ok then... Marx and Engels, wrote, in an introduction to the 1872 edition of the manifesto, that it was in some ways already outdated, and that many parts of it would be different if they were to re-write it then, most importantly they say; "The practical application of the principles will depend, as the Manifesto itself states, everywhere and at all times, on the historical conditions for the time being existing...". Reading the communist manifesto and saying that you understand Marx is like reading a Jesus tract and saying you're a biblical scholar. But by all means, allow the echo chamber to continue... 
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:42:25 PM EDT
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Nope not the Bourgeois. To an Oligarchy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. They don't care if it really works, they just want free shit and power over others. They are truly sycophantic followers of a genocidal cult. What is ironic is that Marxist/leftist ideas actually concentrate money and power to the bourgeois. Nope not the Bourgeois. To an Oligarchy. Oligarchy is a better way to put it. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:42:59 PM EDT
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance but, but , but this time it will be different! |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:43:35 PM EDT
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What is ironic is that Marxist/leftist ideas actually concentrate money and power to the bourgeois. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. They don't care if it really works, they just want free shit and power over others. They are truly sycophantic followers of a genocidal cult. What is ironic is that Marxist/leftist ideas actually concentrate money and power to the bourgeois. Which book did you read? 
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:44:42 PM EDT
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You know, the fact that there were multiple attempts a making communism work that each have their own names - Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism - would be proof that communism just doesn't work. But nah, each idiot tries to implement it their own way and fails. Because it just DOESNT WORK.
The ultimate sadness is that Barack himself would love to have his own brand - Barackism or Obamaism - if given the chance Leftists keep rebranding and failing, yet they still want to try again in our country despite the hard evidence that their ideology will lead to our downfall. They don't care if it really works, they just want free shit and power over others. They are truly sycophantic followers of a genocidal cult. What is ironic is that Marxist/leftist ideas actually concentrate money and power to the bourgeois. Which book did you read? I think he's stating it as a reality, not something be learned from the cm. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:44:46 PM EDT
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The truly tragic thing is when people actually try to carry out his ideas on the rest of the world. Millions of innocent people died because of his ideology and the sad thing is the leftists still want to keep trying. My biggest problem with socialism/communism is that it has to be forced and the "people" have to be subjugated for the plan to "work". In a free society you can chose to be a communist if you so choose but in a communist system there can be no alternatives because it threatens the system. "Perfection is the enemy of man" And to add on to that, if the leftists have to use force or coercion, then what does that say about their intentions? I try to ask impressionable people that question to convince them that leftism will not work. Do you think that there is any social arrangement devoid of force and coercion? That is the greatest question of all. The answer is no. It is the duty of the people to be vigilant and to actively restrain the power of government. Sadly we have failed in that aspect. |
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