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Your post is spot on! Water Good first aid kit Good flashlight Toilet paper Extra clothing And.......Mags & Ammo! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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One should always be prepped even if it's just a month with of food Your post is spot on! Water Good first aid kit Good flashlight Toilet paper Extra clothing And.......Mags & Ammo! I think that's the standard. 3 weeks prep just like for a hurricane (Red Cross recommendation). You start crossing the line in the eyes of some thereafter. |
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I'm on the local CERT team. Building resilient communities has been a Federal Gov't pseudo priority since 9/11 - fair amount of Fed Money being tossed at it. I've always stocked extra food - holdover from my Grandfather who lived through the depression, ww2, Cuban Missile Crises, etc. When we moved my grandparents out of their home about 15 years ago, there were some 20 year old cans of beans, meat, etc. This is not new, its not new for the Gov't - Civil Defense was a big deal in the 50's and 60's.
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http://www.ready.gov/september My wife's been saying that they are doing a lot of emergency drills at the hospital lately -- and the other day speculated that someone "thinks something is coming." Have there been previous "September is prepper month" notifications? Yellowstone? Asteroid? Terrorism? Seems weird to me. View Quote People have been thinking "something is coming" for centuries. Heck, just talk a walk over to the Survival Discussions forum and you will see numerous threads on the subject. Just before Obama was elected to his first term there were countless Arfcom members predicting America would collapse before the end of the first term. Guess what? It didn't happen. Then they predicted America would collapse before Obama's second term ended. Doubt that will happen. Some SHTF scenarios are a guarantee like a moderate to major earthquake hitting the west coast or a hurricane making landfall in the east. But EOTWAWKI scenarios, like a comet strike or collapse of America, are about as likely as me hooking up with Jennifer Lawrence. I bet if we could go back in time there were probably Romans that ranted and raved over the centuries that the Roman Empire would collapse before the end of their lifetime. Since the Roman Empire lasted almost 1,500 years (if you include east and western empires) only the people predicting its demise in the last 100 years were even remotely close. Edited to add: I'm not arguing that preppers are idiots, and that no one should prep. On the contrary I think having some measure of preps is important for realistic SHTF scenarios in your area/life. But IMO spending thousands and thousands of dollars to have enough preps to survive things that are unlikely to ever happen, like the zombieapocalypse or collapse of America, is just stupid IMO. But hey, its their money so they can do with it whatever the like. |
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ready.gov has always been a bit of an oxymoron. The feds say "be prepared" while calling people who are "prepared" domestic terrorists or right-wing militia whack jobs. View Quote I think they draw the line at being armed. Unarmed and prepared, defenseless and willing to hand anything and everything over is what they want. Armed and prepared is when you become a domestic terrorist. |
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Nope..it is because of the cool free SWAG Sticker with every ten pack... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My unit just got 3000 FEMA coffins. What makes them special FEMA coffins? Are they stamped FEMA? Are they for FEMA agents? Are they for FEMA camp residents? Do they stack efficiently on trains? Nope..it is because of the cool free SWAG Sticker with every ten pack... Like DSG Arms? Sweeeet. |
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Just remember the Government's idea of preparedness, and events to plan around, might not line up with your plans/goals. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://www.ready.gov/september My wife's been saying that they are doing a lot of emergency drills at the hospital lately -- and the other day speculated that someone "thinks something is coming." Have there been previous "September is prepper month" notifications? Yellowstone? Asteroid? Terrorism? Seems weird to me. Just remember the Government's idea of preparedness, and events to plan around, might not line up with your plans/goals. Government wants you to have some extra food and water and such, but they never mention guns and ammo. |
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[Some SHTF scenarios are a guarantee like a moderate to major earthquake hitting the west coast or a hurricane making landfall in the east. But EOTWAWKI scenarios, like a comet strike or collapse of America, are about as likely as me hooking up with Jennifer Lawrence. I bet if we could go back in time there were probably Romans that ranted and raved over the centuries that the Roman Empire would collapse before the end of their lifetime. Since the Roman Empire lasted almost 1,500 years (if you include east and western empires) only the people predicting its demise in the last 100 years were even remotely close. Edited to add: I'm not arguing that preppers are idiots, and that no one should prep. On the contrary I think having some measure of preps is important for realistic SHTF scenarios in your area/life. But IMO spending thousands and thousands of dollars to have enough preps to survive things that are unlikely to ever happen, like the zombieapocalypse or collapse of America, is just stupid IMO. But hey, its their money so they can do with it whatever the like. View Quote Eh, not sure it is as unlikely as you think. Several times during the Cold War we came close. Even after the Cold War I understand that the Russians came close to pushing the button. On another level, this country has a certain weakness. Our success is based upon rule of law, and that in turn is based upon culture. At some point our culture won't support rule of law, and at that point we will become a banana republic. When that happens we will no longer be the significant naval power, at which point the world will become much more dangerous and expensive (assuming there is no similar culture to replace us). Of course, standard prepping may not do much for you in such a situation. The model for the above is the UK, which was the world's dominate naval power since at least 1805 until the 1940s. The UK decided to follow the welfare state path, and is now in such a state that her former greatness will not be regained in any foreseable future. The UK's failure wasn't a major problem because the US was more then able to pick up the slack. We have no one to pass the tradition on to, however. The Obama administration and their intellectual supporters have already decided America was going to decline. They may be correct, and their policies are pushing decline even if they don't intend to. What they have failed to understand is the importance of American power. They think the world has become a better place because that's the natural way of things, the progress of history. Rather, the driving force has been Anglo-American capitalism and naval power. The vacuum of American power will be filled by the likes of Russia, China, and ISIS, with more of the likes of Sammy pirates thrown in as well. |
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My unit just got 3000 FEMA coffins. What makes them special FEMA coffins? Are they stamped FEMA? Are they for FEMA agents? Are they for FEMA camp residents? Do they stack efficiently on trains? And holes too!!! |
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They want us to prep more so they can steal our shit when the SHTF. it's easier because we've been prepping for years and we are all over the place. Makes it easy for gov't agents and responders to clean us out as they move along instead of going to one central location. But, that's my 2 cents.
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Perhaps the prepper industry lobby slid a sizable donation to the Obama camp.
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Quoted: "And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure that the Progressives are thrilled at the idea of dumb citizens stockpiling resources on their own dime, so that the government can come take them by force when they're most needed. That is why the smart citizens start by stockpiling guns and ammo. "And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn In before FedDC and his D9'r.
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Quoted: wow, that sounds almost as practical and realistic as rounding up and deporting millions of illegal immigrants. do you guys think even about this kind of shit before you post it? are you so obsessed with being a .gov victim is that you've lost any critical thinking capacity? WTF? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure that the Progressives are thrilled at the idea of dumb citizens stockpiling resources on their own dime, so that the government can come take them by force when they're most needed. wow, that sounds almost as practical and realistic as rounding up and deporting millions of illegal immigrants. do you guys think even about this kind of shit before you post it? are you so obsessed with being a .gov victim is that you've lost any critical thinking capacity? WTF? Why are you even here?
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wow, that sounds almost as practical and realistic as rounding up and deporting millions of illegal immigrants. do you guys think even about this kind of shit before you post it? are you so obsessed with being a .gov victim is that you've lost any critical thinking capacity? WTF? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm sure that the Progressives are thrilled at the idea of dumb citizens stockpiling resources on their own dime, so that the government can come take them by force when they're most needed. wow, that sounds almost as practical and realistic as rounding up and deporting millions of illegal immigrants. do you guys think even about this kind of shit before you post it? are you so obsessed with being a .gov victim is that you've lost any critical thinking capacity? WTF? If that asscrack of a president could get away with it. He would do it in a heartbeat. He hates godfearing, hardworking freedom loving Americans more than ISIS. |
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From ready.gov/september:
Join our Thunderclap message on let your followers know that it’s National Preparedness Month with your followers. How does Thunderclap work? Once you sign up, Thunderclap will sync your social media accounts to release an automatic Facebook post, Tweet or both on September, 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM. View Quote There was a liberal-leaning SHTF movie last year (and fairly recently release on Netflix) called "Goodbye World" where the catastrophic event was the transmission of a text message to millions of devices simultaneously which somehow irreparably shut down data networks. Coincidence? I think not...I guess we'll see in about 15 minutes! |
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I'm sure that the Progressives are thrilled at the idea of dumb citizens stockpiling resources on their own dime, so that the government can come take them by force when they're most needed. wow, that sounds almost as practical and realistic as rounding up and deporting millions of illegal immigrants. do you guys think even about this kind of shit before you post it? are you so obsessed with being a .gov victim is that you've lost any critical thinking capacity? WTF? Why are you even here? Yes, because the defining trait of this board is to be a nonsensical moran, and we refuse to tolerate anyone who isn't! Let's all wallow in filth and shun the non-believers!!! |
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From ready.gov/september: There was a liberal-leaning SHTF movie last year (and fairly recently release on Netflix) called "Goodbye World" where the catastrophic event was the transmission of a text message to millions of devices simultaneously which somehow irreparably shut down data networks. Coincidence? I think not...I guess we'll see in about 15 minutes! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
From ready.gov/september: Join our Thunderclap message on let your followers know that it’s National Preparedness Month with your followers. How does Thunderclap work? Once you sign up, Thunderclap will sync your social media accounts to release an automatic Facebook post, Tweet or both on September, 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM. There was a liberal-leaning SHTF movie last year (and fairly recently release on Netflix) called "Goodbye World" where the catastrophic event was the transmission of a text message to millions of devices simultaneously which somehow irreparably shut down data networks. Coincidence? I think not...I guess we'll see in about 15 minutes! There have been several other left leaning SHTF movies. One is Seeking a Friend for the End of the World. I actually enjoyed it, it wasn't preachy leftist politics, but had a definite liberal leaning worldview. The feds actually seem to be using the zombie thing as a "fun way" to prep. On TV there was some "expert" on the subject explaining you should use a crowbar for self defense, 'cause it won't run out of bullets. Really. |
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Yes, because the defining trait of this board is to be a nonsensical moran, and we refuse to tolerate anyone who isn't! Let's all wallow in filth and shun the non-believers!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm sure that the Progressives are thrilled at the idea of dumb citizens stockpiling resources on their own dime, so that the government can come take them by force when they're most needed. wow, that sounds almost as practical and realistic as rounding up and deporting millions of illegal immigrants. do you guys think even about this kind of shit before you post it? are you so obsessed with being a .gov victim is that you've lost any critical thinking capacity? WTF? Why are you even here? Yes, because the defining trait of this board is to be a nonsensical moran, and we refuse to tolerate anyone who isn't! Let's all wallow in filth and shun the non-believers!!! perhaps i'm doing what little part i can to argue against the folks who keep helping democrats get elected by sounding like loons. i want a more free-market government. bizarro fantasies of oppression and assertions of "enemies, everywhere" do not help move toward that goal. they just undermine it. but i guess that's what happens when we have so many folks informed by decontextualized internet gossip and myth. they need library cards. |
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bizarro fantasies of oppression and assertions of "enemies, everywhere" do not help move toward that goal. they just undermine it. but i guess that's what happens when we have so many folks informed by decontextualized internet gossip and myth. they need library cards. View Quote Maybe the library at which you have borrowing privileges needs a better history section. Betting against government oppression is never much of a long shot, historically. |
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ready.gov has always been a bit of an oxymoron. The feds say "be prepared" while calling people who are "prepared" domestic terrorists or right-wing militia whack jobs. View Quote The .gov's idea of "preparedness": - a few gallons of water - a Rite Aid first aid kit - some canned goods... enough to last until they can saaaaave you. And no guns, for the love of God. |
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Quoted: Yes, because the defining trait of this board is to be a nonsensical moran, and we refuse to tolerate anyone who isn't! Let's all wallow in filth and shun the non-believers!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure that the Progressives are thrilled at the idea of dumb citizens stockpiling resources on their own dime, so that the government can come take them by force when they're most needed. wow, that sounds almost as practical and realistic as rounding up and deporting millions of illegal immigrants. do you guys think even about this kind of shit before you post it? are you so obsessed with being a .gov victim is that you've lost any critical thinking capacity? WTF? Why are you even here? Yes, because the defining trait of this board is to be a nonsensical moran, and we refuse to tolerate anyone who isn't! Let's all wallow in filth and shun the non-believers!!! There is creative criticism, and then there is shitting on stuff. |
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I had a friend tell me Yellowstone is going to erupt in the next two years. But he smokes weed and takes pictures of chem trails so there's that. As far as prepping goes he's covered every base except fire arms, all he has is a twelve gauge. When I ask him why only a shotgun he says that's all he needs. He probably owns an HD copy of Army of Darkness.
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I bet if we could go back in time there were probably Romans that ranted and raved over the centuries that the Roman Empire would collapse before the end of their lifetime. Since the Roman Empire lasted almost 1,500 years (if you include east and western empires) only the people predicting its demise in the last 100 years were even remotely close. View Quote Well, there is the thing of going from Republic to Empire, as well as the collapse in the West and later in the East. Rome collapsed over an extended time. There were also a few near run things in its history. |
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Quoted: perhaps i'm doing what little part i can to argue against the folks who keep helping democrats get elected by sounding like loons. i want a more free-market government. bizarro fantasies of oppression and assertions of "enemies, everywhere" do not help move toward that goal. they just undermine it. but i guess that's what happens when we have so many folks informed by decontextualized internet gossip and myth. they need library cards. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure that the Progressives are thrilled at the idea of dumb citizens stockpiling resources on their own dime, so that the government can come take them by force when they're most needed. wow, that sounds almost as practical and realistic as rounding up and deporting millions of illegal immigrants. do you guys think even about this kind of shit before you post it? are you so obsessed with being a .gov victim is that you've lost any critical thinking capacity? WTF? Why are you even here? Yes, because the defining trait of this board is to be a nonsensical moran, and we refuse to tolerate anyone who isn't! Let's all wallow in filth and shun the non-believers!!! perhaps i'm doing what little part i can to argue against the folks who keep helping democrats get elected by sounding like loons. i want a more free-market government. bizarro fantasies of oppression and assertions of "enemies, everywhere" do not help move toward that goal. they just undermine it. but i guess that's what happens when we have so many folks informed by decontextualized internet gossip and myth. they need library cards. No, I think you are doing your little part to make yourself feel superior to us "nonsensical morans". |
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I'm sure that the Progressives are thrilled at the idea of dumb citizens stockpiling resources on their own dime, so that the government can come take them by force when they're most needed. View Quote So, let me get this straight... If we stockpile resources for emergencies we're dumb? So then we shouldn't stockpile resources for an emergency?? I'm lost. |
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There is creative criticism, and then there is shitting on stuff. Yes, if the intent is really "to argue against the folks who keep helping democrats get elected by sounding like loons" there are much better ways to do it. yeah i guess i need to brush up on "alinsky tactics" and how to be a better "statist." "shitting on stuff" is simply an adaptation to the local language and custom. or perhaps folks don't notice their own behavior here, where every day is about how anyone with even slightly different views on things is a fucking idiot, a communist, et cetera. the arrogance here is profound and pervasive. yet held up to a mirror it does not recognize itself. smell yourself. |
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I'm sure that the Progressives are thrilled at the idea of dumb citizens stockpiling resources on their own dime, so that the government can come take them by force when they're most needed. So, let me get this straight... If we stockpile resources for emergencies we're dumb? So then we shouldn't stockpile resources for an emergency?? I'm lost. I'm just questioning the motives behind a leftist administration, that basically has made "Depend on the government, not on your own dumb selves." it's core message, suddenly deciding that everyone needs to get their shit together. |
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Quoted: yeah i guess i need to brush up on "alinsky tactics" and how to be a better "statist." "shitting on stuff" is simply an adaptation to the local language and custom. or perhaps folks don't notice their own behavior here, where every day is about how anyone with even slightly different views on things is a fucking idiot, a communist, et cetera. the arrogance here is profound and pervasive. yet held up to a mirror it does not recognize itself. smell yourself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There is creative criticism, and then there is shitting on stuff. Yes, if the intent is really "to argue against the folks who keep helping democrats get elected by sounding like loons" there are much better ways to do it. yeah i guess i need to brush up on "alinsky tactics" and how to be a better "statist." "shitting on stuff" is simply an adaptation to the local language and custom. or perhaps folks don't notice their own behavior here, where every day is about how anyone with even slightly different views on things is a fucking idiot, a communist, et cetera. the arrogance here is profound and pervasive. yet held up to a mirror it does not recognize itself. smell yourself. You are a sad little man. I hope you find happiness. |
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I'm just questioning the motives behind a leftist administration, that basically has made "Depend on the government, not on your own dumb selves." it's core message, suddenly deciding that everyone needs to get their shit together. View Quote Just keep in mind it's "get your shit together" for the emergencies we decide are emergencies and in the manner we decide. Prep "too much" or for the wrong thngs and you might be a domestic terrorist, not a wise citizen. I don't think there's some nefarious plot afoot, this is general government boilerplate stuff aimed at the American Idol crowd. These are the folks who think an extra set of batteries *somewhere in the pantry* is "prepared". ETA: If you look at the basic list at the link in the OP it's all stuff I'm betting we (A) all have (B) many of us carry in our vehicles and (C) likely carry many of the items on our person. It's stuff that likely most folks don't have in any amount, let alone categorized into kits. And frankly people having those items doesn't exactly equate to "having their shit together". |
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I'm just questioning the motives behind a leftist administration, that basically has made "Depend on the government, not on your own dumb selves." it's core message, suddenly deciding that everyone needs to get their shit together. View Quote I don't think this is new stuff, really. Government has long had recomendations for minor prepping. What would be interesting would be if they suggested owning guns and ammo. |
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ready.gov has always been a bit of an oxymoron. The feds say "be prepared" while calling people who are "prepared" domestic terrorists or right-wing militia whack jobs. View Quote If you notice the "be prepared" the .gov pushes is 72 hours worth of items to get your ass to a .gov refugee center or some such. And they have a real emphasis on making sure you have documents with you. Basically bug out so the looters have free reign They do not exactly advocate 6 months of supplies to include ammo so you can defend what is yours. |
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