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Posted: 9/1/2014 7:57:56 PM EDT
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? Ambition? |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 7:58:23 PM EDT
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I'm Christian and I don't care what the Pope says. He has no more authority than the average person. Killing people just because they don't agree with you goes against everything that is Christianity, and I wouldn't have any part of that. Defense is another story. I'm with you... |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 7:59:27 PM EDT
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Well, aside from money, finding the best way to actually transport your gear internationally (including the ITAR no-export stuff), learning the language, finding a place that can house 1000 people, and is able to supply them... How about that you'd get your asses handed to you in short order by what appears to be a pretty effective fighting force? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? Well, aside from money, finding the best way to actually transport your gear internationally (including the ITAR no-export stuff), learning the language, finding a place that can house 1000 people, and is able to supply them... How about that you'd get your asses handed to you in short order by what appears to be a pretty effective fighting force? 1.) Rich members of ARFCOM can help with that 2.) Maybe buy/pickup gear at another 3rd world country in the region 3.) Rosetta Stone torrent 4.) Tents Would be one hell of an ARFCOM field trip. And no, I'm not serious about this, but it is fun to imagine. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 7:59:35 PM EDT
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With all the joys of the world, why must we waste time on religious dick measuring?
If I were king of the world I'd declare a spring break or something. With songs, nekkid girls and free love. We need that more than theological 'debates' about whether religious batman is stronger than religious superman |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:01:20 PM EDT
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? ITAR 
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:03:08 PM EDT
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While my DI's tried to tell me it was GOD COUNTRY CORPS I am firmly a Country Corps Family kinda guy DI's told me the same thing, but I always thought Family, Corps, Country myself. Religious leaders of any faith or denomination hold no sway nor invoke awe or reverence in me, so what they call for would also hold no sway. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:05:50 PM EDT
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Defend the Faith!
I can't tote as much ruck as I used to, but I'll go just to see the look on their faces. "How do you like us NOW?" |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:06:03 PM EDT
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? ITAR Surely someone here has some sort of lord of war "Yuri Orlov" contact that'd be willing to help? Lol |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:06:14 PM EDT
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Are we talking the kinda crusaded where a lot of people get dead and a few people get rich?
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:08:40 PM EDT
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Are we talking the kinda crusaded where a lot of people get dead and a few people get rich? Rape,pillage and plunder. "Take their Women as well as Their Gold. Cast them upon the rocks of despair and Death" I made it up...... 
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:08:51 PM EDT
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I'm Christian and I don't care what the Pope says. He has no more authority than the average person. Killing people just because they don't agree with you goes against everything that is Christianity, and I wouldn't have any part of that. Defense is another story. I'm with you... We're going to fight them, that's just the way it is. I'd rather do it in their neighborhood than in your subdivision. This war will be defensive, we have no choice but to fight. Many Christians have already accepted the math. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:09:12 PM EDT
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Why does anyone have to go anywhere? Its need only be as simple as - On my mark, turn key... As big a fan as I am of nukes, and I'm a fan, I'm not sure what we could do to non-state actors with them. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:09:17 PM EDT
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I'm Christian and I don't care what the Pope says. He has no more authority than the average person. Killing people just because they don't agree with you goes against everything that is Christianity, and I wouldn't have any part of that. Defense is another story. +1 |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:11:28 PM EDT
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1.) Rich members of ARFCOM can help with that 2.) Maybe buy/pickup gear at another 3rd world country in the region 3.) Rosetta Stone torrent 4.) Tents Would be one hell of an ARFCOM field trip. And no, I'm not serious about this, but it is fun to imagine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? Well, aside from money, finding the best way to actually transport your gear internationally (including the ITAR no-export stuff), learning the language, finding a place that can house 1000 people, and is able to supply them... How about that you'd get your asses handed to you in short order by what appears to be a pretty effective fighting force? 1.) Rich members of ARFCOM can help with that 2.) Maybe buy/pickup gear at another 3rd world country in the region 3.) Rosetta Stone torrent 4.) Tents Would be one hell of an ARFCOM field trip. And no, I'm not serious about this, but it is fun to imagine. Fuck that if we are going to do that we may as well go to some south African shit hole That has gold, diamonds, oil, and farm able land and take over, and instate The United States Of Arfcom. Then see if we can build a better nation or fail horribly. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:11:39 PM EDT
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I'm Christian and I don't care what the Pope says. He has no more authority than the average person. Killing people just because they don't agree with you goes against everything that is Christianity, and I wouldn't have any part of that. Defense is another story. +1 Does "defense" include protecting our fellow Christians that are getting brutally murdered over there or only when their on your porch about to kick your door in? |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:14:07 PM EDT
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Well, the Pope would be condemned by the United Nations and NATO. The US Federal Government would arrest and prosecute you if they found out you were attempting to go on Crusade or returning from it.
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:19:50 PM EDT
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half of GDs heads would explode.
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:22:49 PM EDT
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If you wouldn't go to fight a people who are a direct threat to your existence regardless of who calls for it then there is no helping you in life. ISIS and groups like them need to be dealt with, the longer we let them fester the worse things will get over time. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/481/nukeit.jpg On Sept 10, 2001, I would have thought that was a horrible solution. 
On Sept 12, 2001, and every day since, I'd be okay with it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:24:47 PM EDT
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Couldn't decide between "Christian and I'd go" and "9mm w/ beans." I really wanted 9mm with beans. But I voted Christian and heck yes I would go!!! 5.56 and bacon!  I'm going to have to remember 5.56 and bacon for my next pole. You're talking bacon in your chili and a 5.56 for a carry gun, right?
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:25:56 PM EDT
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ITAR ruins everything
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:26:47 PM EDT
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? Reality? |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:33:24 PM EDT
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? World governments, lack of financing, logistics. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:40:44 PM EDT
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On Sept 10, 2001, I would have thought that was a horrible solution. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-w-PJifzVCTU/Tmx6JtIgvLI/AAAAAAAACxg/2Gg2QDxZAms/s320/9-11-01-Firefighters_raising-flag.jpg On Sept 12, 2001, and every day since, I'd be okay with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you wouldn't go to fight a people who are a direct threat to your existence regardless of who calls for it then there is no helping you in life. ISIS and groups like them need to be dealt with, the longer we let them fester the worse things will get over time. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/481/nukeit.jpg On Sept 10, 2001, I would have thought that was a horrible solution. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-w-PJifzVCTU/Tmx6JtIgvLI/AAAAAAAACxg/2Gg2QDxZAms/s320/9-11-01-Firefighters_raising-flag.jpg On Sept 12, 2001, and every day since, I'd be okay with it. Amen. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:40:49 PM EDT
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? Reality? Bro, you want to go fight a bunch of goddamn Chechens, you go right ahead. Those bastards give Army SF and Navy SEALs nightmares. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:41:29 PM EDT
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? Reality? does not apply here. even perez hilton is intimidated. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:41:45 PM EDT
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Sign me up. I'm an atheist but if the pope called for that I might convert. Do it quick though before I get too old. I married into this crusade. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:44:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:49:02 PM EDT
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So when are we leaving and what's our rally point?
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:53:25 PM EDT
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Killing people who disagree with you would be unChristian - and the side that is doing that is Muslim.
Protecting the weak and the innocent, however, is seen as a Catholic duty. (and usually considered a positive ideal by most Christians - but someone else can provide a bible quote on that one). - When do we leave - have not received my marching orders yet. Catholic Church is not quick to even declare someone else's war just, and it unlikely anything short of nuking or armed takeover of the Vatican will get the Pope to call for a Crusade. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:56:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So would you go ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A man living in Italy has absolutely NO bearing or influence in my life. I don't care what the "Pope" has to say about anything. My path doesn't rely on a dude that was elected by other dudes into a position to be "worshiped" by even more "dudes" and " dudetes".... ... ... So would you go ? ...
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:13:34 PM EDT
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To the Gates of Hell for a Heavenly Cause
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:15:22 PM EDT
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If you wouldn't go to fight a people who are a direct threat to your existence regardless of who calls for it then there is no helping you in life. ISIS and groups like them need to be dealt with, the longer we let them fester the worse things will get over time. Quoted to reiterate this important point. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:21:56 PM EDT
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? Reality? If you had 1000 or so willing Arfcommers who happen to be SF (or even experienced Infantry) with combat experience and language skills, and who also were willing to actually go there... It would probably be a good supplement to the Peshmerga and Kurd forces- assuming they had a way to receive supplies. But as you state the question, TSC, I think your plan has some very extreme flaws in it. 2 Battalions worth of normal Arfcommers would give you, maybe, a single Company of able bodied, experienced fighter that have any business in a combat zone in the first place. To be optimistic I'll say you have 200 actual warriors in your 1000 that show up; the other 800 are going to be neckbearded, overweight basement dwellers or tacticool airsoft kids- both of whom are going to piss themselves and run away the first time someone shoots in their general direction. You're going to end up with a General-Admiral (Aladeen), around 487 Generals (4-Star, of course), 22 Colonels, 87 CSM's, that one guy that wants to be a W-5, 352 Sergeants, 32 Specialists, and 18 Privates. Figure that about an even-quarter of the group will also be stoned most of the time... Even if you manage to get the hierarchy to resemble something of a functional team (because that'll happen  ), you now have to find food, water, shelter, and supplies for 1000 men- all without any support components to provide any of this. All of this needs to be covered before anyone even thinks about making contact with the enemies.
I predict that the "Arfcom Army" dies within a week of arriving to the area. The ones who don't die of starvation or thirst will be killed in one of the several mutinies that follow disagreements involving beans, 9 vs. 45, or the great scuffle over the last bag of Cheetos. The last 11 survivors will give up and go back to their mom's basement. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:31:22 PM EDT
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Many people don't know this, but the crusades were a defensive war against the muslims, not a war to take over evil non-believers and convert or kill. It was a war that was absolutely necessary, because they were the same back then as they are now.
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:31:49 PM EDT
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If you had 1000 or so willing Arfcommers who happen to be SF (or even experienced Infantry) with combat experience and language skills, and who also were willing to actually go there... It would probably be a good supplement to the Peshmerga and Kurd forces- assuming they had a way to receive supplies. But as you state the question, TSC, I think your plan has some very extreme flaws in it. 2 Battalions worth of normal Arfcommers would give you, maybe, a single Company of able bodied, experienced fighter that have any business in a combat zone in the first place. To be optimistic I'll say you have 200 actual warriors in your 1000 that show up; the other 800 are going to be neckbearded, overweight basement dwellers or tacticool airsoft kids- both of whom are going to piss themselves and run away the first time someone shoots in their general direction. You're going to end up with a General-Admiral (Aladeen), around 487 Generals (4-Star, of course), 22 Colonels, 87 CSM's, that one guy that wants to be a W-5, 352 Sergeants, 32 Specialists, and 18 Privates. Figure that about an even-quarter of the group will also be stoned most of the time... Even if you manage to get the hierarchy to resemble something of a functional team (because that'll happen ), you now have to find food, water, shelter, and supplies for 1000 men- all without any support components to provide any of this. All of this needs to be covered before anyone even thinks about making contact with the enemies.
I predict that the "Arfcom Army" dies within a week of arriving to the area. The ones who don't die of starvation or thirst will be killed in one of the several mutinies that follow disagreements involving beans, 9 vs. 45, or the great scuffle over the last bag of Cheetos. The last 11 survivors will give up and go back to their mom's basement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? Reality? If you had 1000 or so willing Arfcommers who happen to be SF (or even experienced Infantry) with combat experience and language skills, and who also were willing to actually go there... It would probably be a good supplement to the Peshmerga and Kurd forces- assuming they had a way to receive supplies. But as you state the question, TSC, I think your plan has some very extreme flaws in it. 2 Battalions worth of normal Arfcommers would give you, maybe, a single Company of able bodied, experienced fighter that have any business in a combat zone in the first place. To be optimistic I'll say you have 200 actual warriors in your 1000 that show up; the other 800 are going to be neckbearded, overweight basement dwellers or tacticool airsoft kids- both of whom are going to piss themselves and run away the first time someone shoots in their general direction. You're going to end up with a General-Admiral (Aladeen), around 487 Generals (4-Star, of course), 22 Colonels, 87 CSM's, that one guy that wants to be a W-5, 352 Sergeants, 32 Specialists, and 18 Privates. Figure that about an even-quarter of the group will also be stoned most of the time... Even if you manage to get the hierarchy to resemble something of a functional team (because that'll happen ), you now have to find food, water, shelter, and supplies for 1000 men- all without any support components to provide any of this. All of this needs to be covered before anyone even thinks about making contact with the enemies.
I predict that the "Arfcom Army" dies within a week of arriving to the area. The ones who don't die of starvation or thirst will be killed in one of the several mutinies that follow disagreements involving beans, 9 vs. 45, or the great scuffle over the last bag of Cheetos. The last 11 survivors will give up and go back to their mom's basement. 
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:34:10 PM EDT
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I say Dr Pepper.
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:36:10 PM EDT
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If you wouldn't go to fight a people who are a direct threat to your existence regardless of who calls for it then there is no helping you in life. 
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:37:41 PM EDT
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I'm about as anti-papist as Martin Luther, however if the pope called for a crusade I'd go fight. People forget that the crusades were pretty much a defensive war. When they were waged Islam had been spreading by the sword for four centuries. The crusades saved Christendom. Very much this! I think it's getting really close to the point that it will be necessary again, unless you would like to live under sharia and suffer murder, rape, extortion, etc at the hands of Islamists. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:40:11 PM EDT
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I think it's getting really close to the point that it will be necessary again, unless you would like to live under sharia and suffer murder, rape, extortion, etc at the hands of Islamists. Yep Sharia Law here any day now. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:51:13 PM EDT
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[youtube]Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill…: http://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y[/youtube]
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:56:17 PM EDT
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What's to stop 1000 or so ARFCOM members from going to Iraq (or some other politically turbulent 3rd world shithole) with our rifles/gear and fucking up ISIS and taking over the country guerrilla style? Cardio. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:03:05 PM EDT
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Yep Sharia Law here any day now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it's getting really close to the point that it will be necessary again, unless you would like to live under sharia and suffer murder, rape, extortion, etc at the hands of Islamists. Yep Sharia Law here any day now. It is not an immediate threat, but if you look at the long game it is. Europe could fall to Islam in a couple of centuries, luckily America is protected by two pretty big oceans. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:06:31 PM EDT
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It is not an immediate threat, but if you look at the long game it is. Europe could fall to Islam in a couple of centuries, luckily America is protected by two pretty big oceans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it's getting really close to the point that it will be necessary again, unless you would like to live under sharia and suffer murder, rape, extortion, etc at the hands of Islamists. Yep Sharia Law here any day now. It is not an immediate threat, but if you look at the long game it is. Europe could fall to Islam in a couple of centuries, luckily America is protected by two pretty big oceans. Europe could have some more pogroms and wipe every Islamist off the continent, too. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:12:34 PM EDT
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The Pope doesn't need to announce anything. If you want to sign on the dotted line and go kill black flaggers, spend more time doing that instead of talking about how you would do just that IF ONLY... 
Some of the people in GD remind me of that drunk guy at a bar that would would totally kick another guy's ass if it wasn't for his girlfriend holding him back
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:20:55 PM EDT
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It is not an immediate threat, but if you look at the long game it is. Europe could fall to Islam in a couple of centuries, luckily America is protected by two pretty big oceans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it's getting really close to the point that it will be necessary again, unless you would like to live under sharia and suffer murder, rape, extortion, etc at the hands of Islamists. Yep Sharia Law here any day now. It is not an immediate threat, but if you look at the long game it is. Europe could fall to Islam in a couple of centuries, luckily America is protected by two pretty big oceans. Meh, I'll be long gone. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:22:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:23:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is not an immediate threat, but if you look at the long game it is. Europe could fall to Islam in a couple of centuries, luckily America is protected by two pretty big oceans. Absent an injection of will power to due what is necessary, Europe's future can be measured in decades, if not years. A friend recently spent a month in Europe. He said that London and Paris were filled with aggressive, pan-handling Muslims. He said Harrods was packed with women in Burkas. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:25:14 PM EDT
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I'm Christian and I don't care what the Pope says. He has no more authority than the average person. Killing people just because they don't agree with you goes against everything that is Christianity, and I wouldn't have any part of that. Defense is another story. 100% this. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:28:20 PM EDT
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I'm about as anti-papist as Martin Luther, however if the pope called for a crusade I'd go fight. People forget that the crusades were pretty much a defensive war. When they were waged Islam had been spreading by the sword for four centuries. The crusades saved Christendom. This. I'm a pagan, I don't always agree with or get along with Christians but I can coexist with them fairly well, all things considered. Coexistence with a group that wants to behead me for being what I am is neither possible not desirable. There is only one sane response to such a group appearing and expanding. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:36:08 PM EDT
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If we're gonna go Crusading then we need the right type of Crusader.
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