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Posted: 9/1/2014 11:43:43 AM EDT
They declined, and an Irish QRF came and they fought their way out.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=54902 AP article linked at TAH.

Gen. Gregorio Pio Catapang said he advised the 40 Filipino peacekeepers not to lay down their arms, and they defied the U.N. peacekeeping commander’s order. Instead, they staged a daring escape from the Golan camp over the weekend, ending a tense, dayslong standoff.
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Forty-five Fijian peacekeepers who surrendered their firearms to the rebels last week are still being held by the al-Qaida-linked insurgents.

The commander of the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force, or UNDOF, which supervises the peacekeeping mission in Golan, was overseeing talks with the Syrian rebels to secure the freedom of the Fijians. However, Catapang said he would not agree to any resolution of the hostage crisis that would put Filipino troops in grave danger.

When the besieged Filipino troops sought his advice after they were ordered to lay down their arms as part of an arrangement with the rebels to secure the Fijians' release, Catapang said he asked them to defy the order.
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Have guys give up to get back other guys that gave up? The UN commander is apparently a retard.  

Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:45:24 AM EDT
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That is retarded. Another reason to disband the UN. Or at least withdraw all support.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:50:18 AM EDT
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UNDOF CMD:  Please guys, just go full retard and give them your guns, I swear everything will be fine.

Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:52:05 AM EDT
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every where I turn, there is some dumb ass liberal/progressive fuckstick sharing their retarded ideas and wanting everyone to follow them down the retarded path.  In this case, I am assuming the U.N. idiot who gave the order to surrender is a liberal/progressive/socialist type.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:53:16 AM EDT
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The UN building needs to be turned into Section 8 housing....It would be cheaper than what we pay to have the enemies of our country congregate there.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:54:46 AM EDT
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That's one order that should be defied.  Why would anyone surrender to AQ?
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:54:59 AM EDT
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This would be unbelievable if it wasn't SOP for the UN, so long as the sacrificed troops aren't from a powerful nation.  

Now did the Irish ignore orders by helping the Filipino breakout, or did the UN CO get forced into ordering the rescue when the Filipinos decided not to get beheaded without a fight?
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:56:56 AM EDT
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for the Irish!
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:57:05 AM EDT
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Good.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:58:50 AM EDT
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This would be unbelievable if it wasn't SOP for the UN, so long as the sacrificed troops aren't from a powerful nation.  



Now did the Irish ignore orders by helping the Filipino breakout, or did the UN CO get forced into ordering the rescue when the Filipinos decided not to get beheaded without a fight?
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Since when did the Irish ignore the opportunity for a fight?





 
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 11:59:57 AM EDT
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Surrender to the Al Queda, lay down arms, get head lopped off for your troubles. Sounds like a plan. Why does the UN even still exist?
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:01:00 PM EDT
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Where is Chief Inspector Dreyfus when you need him?
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:03:47 PM EDT
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Fuck that noise.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:05:39 PM EDT
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F.U.N.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:06:42 PM EDT
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Because WE fund them.

 
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:08:08 PM EDT
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Wow.

I hope an American officer never has to follow an order from an incompetent UN bozo to surrender a unit of American troops. And if they did I hope he would tell the FOAD.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:09:27 PM EDT
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Sickening and unsurprising.  Good on the Filipinos.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:10:00 PM EDT
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Surrender to Al Queda?



You gotta be out of your fucking mind!
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:12:34 PM EDT
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Yea. F surrendering. We have seen what happens when you surrender.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:15:57 PM EDT
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Yea. F surrendering. We have seen what happens when you surrender.
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Yea. F surrendering. We have seen what happens when you surrender.


If you're a European your country pays an enormous ransom, funding ten times the numbers of kidnappings.  The Fijians and Filipinos probably aren't that lucky.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:17:06 PM EDT
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http://www.rappler.com/news/67844-philippines-united-nations-golan


MANILA, Philippines – Filipino peacekeepers in the Golan Heights defied the order of their overall commander, an Indian national, when they refused to surrender their firearms to Syrian rebels in last week's standoff, the Philippine military revealed on Monday, September 1.
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The rebels demanded them to surrender their firearms, and the Philippine troops' refusal triggered a standoff that was followed by a 7-hour heavy firefight on Saturday, August 30.

Despite the firefight, UNDOF commander Lieutenant General Iqbal Singha supposedly insisted that the Filipinos surrender their firearms. They still refused. They were supposedly told that they would be given safe passage and if the rebels still fired on them, they were supposed to raise a white flag.

It was unacceptable to the Filipinos. "Sabi ko hindi puwede yun kasi ma-hostage din ang sundalo natin (I said we won't allow it because the troops will be taken hostage," Catapang said.

The troops had to hatch the escape plan themselves, which they executed midnight on Sunday without the approval of UNDOF.

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Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:23:17 PM EDT
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They declined, and an Irish QRF came and they fought their way out.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=54902 AP article linked at TAH.

Gen. Gregorio Pio Catapang said he advised the 40 Filipino peacekeepers not to lay down their arms, and they defied the U.N. peacekeeping commander’s order. Instead, they staged a daring escape from the Golan camp over the weekend, ending a tense, dayslong standoff.
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Forty-five Fijian peacekeepers who surrendered their firearms to the rebels last week are still being held by the al-Qaida-linked insurgents.

The commander of the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force, or UNDOF, which supervises the peacekeeping mission in Golan, was overseeing talks with the Syrian rebels to secure the freedom of the Fijians. However, Catapang said he would not agree to any resolution of the hostage crisis that would put Filipino troops in grave danger.

When the besieged Filipino troops sought his advice after they were ordered to lay down their arms as part of an arrangement with the rebels to secure the Fijians' release, Catapang said he asked them to defy the order.
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Have guys give up to get back other guys that gave up? The UN commander is apparently a retard.  

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At least they are consistent  

One way for AQ to re-arm with better weapons and ammo.
Hmmm....
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:23:59 PM EDT
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Yea. F surrendering. We have seen what happens when you surrender.


If you're a European your country pays an enormous ransom, funding ten times the numbers of kidnappings.  The Fijians and Filipinos probably aren't that lucky.

Seems that Europe should have learned what works after  10 May 1801.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:26:48 PM EDT
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This un commander could he have been Muslim by any chance?
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:30:11 PM EDT
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Dont know but he is certainly a pussy.


you dont give up your guys or have them give up to people who just might chop their fucking heads off.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:31:36 PM EDT
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Irish QRF.......FTW.  


NEVER disarm....ever.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:32:46 PM EDT
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Looks like a Sikh turban (not Muslim; and they seem to integrate well in the US) in his official photos.  ETA- And the guy's name is Singh, so there you go:

Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:38:50 PM EDT
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I'm really surprised that the Fijian's surrendered. They are some tough, big, motherfuckers.



Shit, 150 years ago they were EATING their enemies.



I can easily see those dudes boiling up some snackbars for dinner.



I lived in Fiji for a year or so. Nice guys, until they got pissed off - then watch out............
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:40:53 PM EDT
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I have alot of questions about this whole UNDOF thing.

So the UNDOF mission since 19fucking74.....was in SYRIA? With guns pointed at the Israili occupied? Golan heights?

So it's mission was to contain IDF from rolling Syria?

I am asking....can any vets who aren't 88ers OR dual citizen.....give me the real scoop?

Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:43:45 PM EDT
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No shit.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:44:00 PM EDT
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So, new poll post inbound for which whiskey or how much Guiness
for the Irish to go full retard on mr. ay-rab looking for pinoy in blue helmet?

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Irish QRF.......FTW.  


NEVER disarm....ever.
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Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:47:52 PM EDT
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What is the purpose of having UN Peacekeepers?  Seems like wherever they are they just stand around and do nothing, and run away.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:58:44 PM EDT
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If Fijians are any thing like Samoans they be tuff

I had a couple of Samoans in my OUT class they were tireless and handled the training with ease. Tough as nails.

I don't see surrender as an option being a warrior culture and all .

Bet I'm a racist now...
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 12:59:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:02:46 PM EDT
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Surrender to the Al Queda, lay down arms, get head lopped off for your troubles. Sounds like a plan. Why does the UN even still exist?
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Exactly . That whole organization's military branch needs a complete overhaul and re-think . Easier to just scrap it and start over .



 
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:03:13 PM EDT
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Oh no, sometimes they disarm the local civilians and then stand around and do nothing as the helpless locals are massacred, like the Dutch UN troops did at Srebrenica, or the French in the Central African Republic.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:08:16 PM EDT
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Since when did the Irish ignore the opportunity for a fight?

 
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This would be unbelievable if it wasn't SOP for the UN, so long as the sacrificed troops aren't from a powerful nation.  

Now did the Irish ignore orders by helping the Filipino breakout, or did the UN CO get forced into ordering the rescue when the Filipinos decided not to get beheaded without a fight?
Since when did the Irish ignore the opportunity for a fight?

 


You have a point.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:10:06 PM EDT
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Lets have the UN invade the US so they can surrender and I can add a like new P-90 to my collection.

Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:11:14 PM EDT
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Surrender to a bunch of AQ/ISIS/ROPers?

No way.


I'll die fighting them off before I allow myself to be taken prisoner and my head cut off on some video. Fuck that noise.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:12:02 PM EDT
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If Fijians are any thing like Samoans they be tuff



I had a couple of Samoans in my OUT class they were tireless and handled the training with ease. Tough as nails.



I don't see surrender as an option being a warrior culture and all .



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Yeah, similar attitudes - but don't put them in the same room, one will get broken............. Probably the Samoan.



 
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:13:31 PM EDT
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Dont know but he is certainly a pussy.


you dont give up your guys or have them give up to people who just might chop their fucking heads off.
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This un commander could he have been Muslim by any chance?



Dont know but he is certainly a pussy.


you dont give up your guys or have them give up to people who just might chop their fucking heads off.

Seems he's a Sikh.

Which is odd, they HATE Muslims.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:15:20 PM EDT
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If Fijians are any thing like Samoans they be tuff

I had a couple of Samoans in my OUT class they were tireless and handled the training with ease. Tough as nails.

I don't see surrender as an option being a warrior culture and all .

Bet I'm a racist now...
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No, your stereotype was positive, so it isn't racist
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:17:19 PM EDT
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Fuck that.
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all day
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Oh no, sometimes they disarm the local civilians and then stand around and do nothing as the helpless locals are massacred, like the Dutch UN troops did at Srebrenica, or the French in the Central African Republic.
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What is the purpose of having UN Peacekeepers?  Seems like wherever they are they just stand around and do nothing, and run away.


Oh no, sometimes they disarm the local civilians and then stand around and do nothing as the helpless locals are massacred, like the Dutch UN troops did at Srebrenica, or the French in the Central African Republic.


Sometimes they do some rape themselves.
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Sickening and unsurprising.  Good on the Filipinos.
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Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:21:13 PM EDT
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Seems he's a Sikh.

Which is odd, they HATE Muslims.
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Yeah, but Indian national. Many Indians seem to have a pacifist/socialist approach to the world. Perhaps that has infected some Sikh as well, at least those who are at higher places in Indian society.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:28:21 PM EDT
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Yeah, but Indian national. Many Indians seem to have a pacifist/socialist approach to the world. Perhaps that has infected some Sikh as well, at least those who are at higher places in Indian society.
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Seems he's a Sikh.

Which is odd, they HATE Muslims.


Yeah, but Indian national. Many Indians seem to have a pacifist/socialist approach to the world. Perhaps that has infected some Sikh as well, at least those who are at higher places in Indian society.

True.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:34:20 PM EDT
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I had no respect for the UN already. This shit is just stupid.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:37:01 PM EDT
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Give me liberty or give me death. At least someone's listening.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 1:40:27 PM EDT
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That's horrible. For the Filipinos I mean.



This is why they go around saying that sharia law will be in the US.
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