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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:05:31 PM EDT
NASA announced this week that its ambitious deep space mega-rocket will have its first test launch in November of 2018. Standing 400 feet tall and boasting over 9 million pounds of thrust, the monstrous 'Space Launch System' will be the largest and most powerful rocket ever assembled. Space agency officials envision the booster system being capable of sending humans back to the moon as well as exotic locations like asteroids or even Mars. Link
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With what funding?
Sadly, the Saturn 5 (1960-70's technology) would still be cheaper and safer. |
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Funding will be cut long before 2018. Then SpaceX will make something better and cheaper.
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I hope it flies. Don't give a fuck how much it costs, space travel is money well spent.
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I'm slightly sad that they didn't go with the F-1B as a booster rocket.
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NASA is (or used to be) one of the few places that would make me proud to see my tax dollars at work.
I'd really like to see them get some serious funding and support to make stuff like this a reality. |
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Booster first and mission later? Without a goal it will never fly.
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Cheaper? Saturn V program cost over $6 billion 40 years ago. That's over $40 billion today. Safer? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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With what funding? Sadly, the Saturn 5 (1960-70's technology) would still be cheaper and safer. Cheaper? Saturn V program cost over $6 billion 40 years ago. That's over $40 billion today. Safer? Would you rather us keep buying Russian rocket motors? |
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SLS has been in the works for years now.
The first test flight of the Crew Vehicle Orion (unmanned) is scheduled for December of THIS year. That is called Exploration Flight Test-1 (EFT-1), currently scheduled for December 4th, 2014 at 8:03am EST, with a 60 minute launch window. Following that, the first SLS mission, EM-1 is scheduled now for September 2018, followed by EM-2 (the first crewed launch, to an asteroid) in late 2020 (early 2021) More information here: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/08/eft-1-orion-morning-launch-december-4/ |
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Misleading statement about it being the most powerful rocket ever. They envision a heavy version that will have a little more LEO throw-weight than the Saturn V. But the first one to launch, last I checked, will be a cute little thing compared to a Saturn V.
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Cheaper? Saturn V program cost over $6 billion 40 years ago. That's over $40 billion today. Safer? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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With what funding? Sadly, the Saturn 5 (1960-70's technology) would still be cheaper and safer. Cheaper? Saturn V program cost over $6 billion 40 years ago. That's over $40 billion today. Safer? The Saturn V launch vehicle never had a life threatening failure. Safest human launch vehicle in history. Anything with Solid Rocket Boosters on it scares the bejeezus out of me. For good reason. |
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Might help us get our pride back. We'll be 20 trillion in debt by then.
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How about make something that can get to the space station and back
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HA will never happen. We have too much social welfare bullshit to pay for.
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Quoted: Nah. Musk will be sabotaged by The Anointed, ULA and their useful idiot minions of jealous class-warfare maggots. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Funding will be cut long before 2018. Then SpaceX will make something better and cheaper. Nah. Musk will be sabotaged by The Anointed, ULA and their useful idiot minions of jealous class-warfare maggots. |
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With what funding? Sadly, the Saturn 5 (1960-70's technology) would still be cheaper and safer. View Quote Saturn V put out 7.65 million pounds of thrust versus the claimed 9 million of this one. What does 1.35 million extra pounds of thrust buy us? I honestly don't have much faith in the engineering ability of modern NASA. I bet they have so much bureaucracy that good designs get gutted resulting in failure. Are any of the 60s engineers still around? Surely many have left this world and the ones that remain would be pretty old, but they could be brought back on to beat some sense in faggoty modern NASA and their limp-wristed engineers. |
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NASA imagines having a bigger dick by 2018 with little funding.
Mars trip to be delayed till 2102 |
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Saturn V put out 7.65 million pounds of thrust versus the claimed 9 million of this one. What does 1.35 million extra pounds of thrust buy us? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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With what funding? Sadly, the Saturn 5 (1960-70's technology) would still be cheaper and safer. Saturn V put out 7.65 million pounds of thrust versus the claimed 9 million of this one. What does 1.35 million extra pounds of thrust buy us? The 9 million number includes the solid rocket boosters, which burn out pretty quick. The actual first stage only puts out like 2 million. The one they are actually building is smaller and has far less throw weight than a Saturn V. |
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I have a friend that is one of the six astronauts training for the asteroid mission. Pretty kick ass opportunity. I'm proud of her for getting selected, but even more so for being a military pilot for most of her career.
That is one impressive rocket! |
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As a guy who worked at JSC for 4 years I'll tell you straight up that this will never happen.
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I'm pretty sure there are 3 life forms in that rocket. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/B2WwO6e7peE/0.jpg View Quote In my experience they aren't life forms for very long. |
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Quoted: Would you rather us keep buying Russian rocket motors? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: With what funding? Sadly, the Saturn 5 (1960-70's technology) would still be cheaper and safer. Cheaper? Saturn V program cost over $6 billion 40 years ago. That's over $40 billion today. Safer? Would you rather us keep buying Russian rocket motors? |
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Walking around the Saturn V rocket is mind blowing! Fucker is huge!
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It'll never be built.
2018 is far too many elections away, and it'll be fucked with, delayed, and eventually cancelled in favour of welfare of some kind. |
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I'm pretty sure there are 3 life forms in that rocket. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/B2WwO6e7peE/0.jpg View Quote Jeb rules them all. |
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Meh, give me a falcon 9 heavy, or whatever they're planning for their next rocket.
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Meanwhile we have no man rated system and this latest system is far from a reality.
Cool animation; too bad for the solid fuel strap ons though. |
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Cheaper? Saturn V program cost over $6 billion 40 years ago. That's over $40 billion today. Safer? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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With what funding? Sadly, the Saturn 5 (1960-70's technology) would still be cheaper and safer. Cheaper? Saturn V program cost over $6 billion 40 years ago. That's over $40 billion today. Safer? Yes, but a large portion of that was development, for a relatively short production run in an accelerated program. |
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In my experience they aren't life forms for very long. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm pretty sure there are 3 life forms in that rocket. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/B2WwO6e7peE/0.jpg In my experience they aren't life forms for very long. |
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I was getting ready for first grade when Alan Shepard made his suborbital flight in '61 and just hit my teens when Armstrong and Aldrin made it to the surface of the moon. The future belonged to the US and it was exciting. Now I'm sure I'll never live to see a manned mission to Mars and when it does happen, it will likely be a ship from another country.
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Would you rather us keep buying Russian rocket motors? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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With what funding? Sadly, the Saturn 5 (1960-70's technology) would still be cheaper and safer. Cheaper? Saturn V program cost over $6 billion 40 years ago. That's over $40 billion today. Safer? Would you rather us keep buying Russian rocket motors? There's a documentary on Youtube about those motors. 1. They're VERY good rocket motors. 2. It's Russia turning a communist idea into capitalism. |
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I work on this project everyday and all of us that do take it very serious.
People that think Space Ex is just a little guy in his backyard with his sleeves rolled up, sweating over a rocket that he builds out of his own pocket are delusional. Musk has taken many millions from the taxpayers and doesn't have a manned rated vehicle. |
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I thought I read somewhere once of an effort to find old Saturn V engines on the ocean floor so they could be studied by NASA. We must have lost the blueprints. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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With what funding? Sadly, the Saturn 5 (1960-70's technology) would still be cheaper and safer. I thought I read somewhere once of an effort to find old Saturn V engines on the ocean floor so they could be studied by NASA. We must have lost the blueprints. IIRC there are two Saturn V's that never saw a mission and are on display now? |
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