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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:34:35 PM EDT
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I don't own any "off brands" but I will in the future.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:35:14 PM EDT
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I'm often intreaged by the Rossi revolvers. Never have pulled the trigger though.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:35:15 PM EDT
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How about a Megastar! 3 pounds empty. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DriftPunch/media/MegaStar_Weight.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/MegaStar_Weight.jpg</a> Star made some nice guns. I really like my Model B. The only real downside to Star is the fact that they went out of business long ago and spares are getting scarce. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:39:28 PM EDT
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I've got a couple Radoms. a ViS wz.35 and a Mag-98
I suppose since CZ isn't listed a CZ 82 as well |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:40:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Canik55 S-120. http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx116/MVolkJ1975/Stuff/S120VZGrips_zps781f5f4d.jpg CZ-75B full size copy. Very well made. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:40:58 PM EDT
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I got an SCCY cpx-2 9mm in a trade just for shits and it has turned out to be quite a little shooter. Points easy accurate and pretty small for a 9mm I don't know I would trust my life to it just yet CCW but I haven't had any issues in the 400 rounds I put through it.
Hickok45 does a pretty favorable review on it which is what made me give it a shot. 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:41:35 PM EDT
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9gRBpZ5IRPk/ULOQmyZKBDI/AAAAAAAACBY/xBhMU7Nhx3E/s1600/Hipower+002.jpg FEG PKJ-9HP I'll buy any quality example I come across for a good deal. I would not call FEG a sub brand, the PA-63 surp guns are like tanks and accurate as hell. I only wish I bought more of them when they were going for $100 each. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:45:57 PM EDT
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I'm often intreaged by the Rossi revolvers. Never have pulled the trigger though. Don't. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:48:47 PM EDT
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I've never owned any of the "off-brand" pistols mentioned, but about all of them have pretty good reviews
from the folks what own them. The three Bersa's I've owned have all been dern good weapons. Hell, all of the Taurus' I've owned have been good firearms, too. Guess I'm lucky that way. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:49:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm surprised it took as many as three posts for the XD hate to happen.   I do apologize for the derail. I had a 13'er moment. Please carry on.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:52:47 PM EDT
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I have a large frame Witness .45 that I've had for 10-12 years. Great pistol.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:03:26 PM EDT
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My favorite pistol is a bul ltd. Cherokee.
It's a polymer cz clone Paid less than $200 for it from academy sports and it has been 100%. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:18:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm often intreaged by the Rossi revolvers. Never have pulled the trigger though. Don't. I have one that shoots about 6" off at 15 yards because the damn barrel is crooked. Was it worth $200? Probably not. F' those people. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:20:33 PM EDT
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Yup. I have one that shoots about 6" off at 15 yards because the damn barrel is crooked. Was it worth $200? Probably not. F' those people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm often intreaged by the Rossi revolvers. Never have pulled the trigger though. Don't. I have one that shoots about 6" off at 15 yards because the damn barrel is crooked. Was it worth $200? Probably not. F' those people. We used to take them off thugs in the ghetto constantly. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:21:35 PM EDT
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Sure, let me know when you find a holster for my allow frame, end of the barrel in white ria 38
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got an SCCY cpx-2 9mm in a trade just for shits and it has turned out to be quite a little shooter. Points easy accurate and pretty small for a 9mm I don't know I would trust my life to it just yet CCW but I haven't had any issues in the 400 rounds I put through it. http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4400/445lwf/products/136/images/473/sccy_cpx2_armalaser_iwb_bundle__58541.1383679636.1280.1280.png Hickok45 does a pretty favorable review on it which is what made me give it a shot.  http://youtu.be/vTgFs-m59RY |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:23:38 PM EDT
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I shot a llama 1911 that had the rear sight mostly drifted off the slide to get it on paper.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:30:46 PM EDT
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In my safe I have some off brands.
Daewoo DP-51 - Good reliable pistol but accuracy is only acceptable Bersa - I have the Thunder in 380ACP and 22lr. Very reliable and accurate Charter Arms - I have a Pathfinder 22lr. Great little kit gun. Rossi - The 22lr 511 revolver. Decent little revolver Davis - 22 Derringer is a piece of shit Jennings - I have 20 years old J22 and is amazingly reliable. Great $50 pistol. Styr - M9 pistol is just as good as Glock Seecamp - It's an amazing pistol |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:35:14 PM EDT
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I can't even bring myself to purchase a Taurus. Their metal guns are solid; I haven't played with their tupperware line. Lifetime warranty on the gun if you ever have issues tho. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:36:15 PM EDT
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I started thinking about the off brand handguns. S&W, Colt, Glock, Beretta, Sig, Walther, FN, HK, Ruger, and dare I say Taurus are common mainstream brands in the handgun market. But I wonder if anyone owns an off brand handgun. Guns like the following. Tanfoglio Witness Series http://eaacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/witness_p_carry1.png Rock Island Armory Model 200 [div style='font-size: 16px;']http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w636/Jordan_Holdsworth/M200/photo1_zpsf37213be.jpg Zastava EZ Series http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/190327041.jpg Bersa Thunder Series http://www.bersa.com/skin/frontend/blank/theme063/images/guns/Thunder-Pro-9-duoNM-L-hires.jpg EAA's Windicator - Weihrauch Series [div style='font-size: 16px;']http://eaacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2003/07/Windicatorsteel2.jpg CzechPoint USA Alfa Proj Serieshttps://www.czechpoint-usa.com/files/files/produkty/3541_600.jpg How is the quality of these guns? Worth a damn or a waste of time and money? Edit Springfield and the XD line isn't an Off Brand Gun. RIA 1911s aren't either but their revolver sure is. I loved my bersa |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:37:26 PM EDT
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The Tanfoglio CZ clones are considered top of the line for USPSA Production division. I wouldn't call them off brand. No idea about their polymer stuff though.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:38:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have the S-120 and the T-120. Awesome guns. Love them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Canik55 S-120. http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx116/MVolkJ1975/Stuff/S120VZGrips_zps781f5f4d.jpg CZ-75B full size copy. Very well made. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:39:48 PM EDT
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I have an STI
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:46:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have yet to hear anything bad about the Canik pistols. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Canik55 S-120. http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx116/MVolkJ1975/Stuff/S120VZGrips_zps781f5f4d.jpg CZ-75B full size copy. Very well made. representative, the metal guns are sweet, especially for the price.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:52:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an STI  |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 7:02:15 PM EDT
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I've got a Canik TP9 that's been awesome so far. Accurate, reliable with nice features.
Also just bought a Bursa Thunder 380 Plus that is still in the mail towards my ffl. Found some nice burl grips for it and plan on getting a UBG iwb holster for it. If I like it as much as people say I will then I might put some meprolight sights on it. I'm really looking forward to checking it out. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 7:38:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Star made some nice guns. I really like my Model B. The only real downside to Star is the fact that they went out of business long ago and spares are getting scarce. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How about a Megastar! 3 pounds empty. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/DriftPunch/MegaStar_Weight.jpg Star made some nice guns. I really like my Model B. The only real downside to Star is the fact that they went out of business long ago and spares are getting scarce. IMO, the finest Star ever produced is the 30m. They are excellent performers if you can deal with blued steel. The alternate finish was a much more robust brushed nickel that they called 'Starvel'. There are no stainless Stars, so anybody advertising a Star as such is either unknowing or intentionally deceiving. Unlike chome or polished nickel, Starvel does indeed look a bit like matte stainless. Both the 30m and the Megastar have the unusual and not lawyer proof Star safety. The safety simply pushes the firing pin down its channel away from the reach of the hammer (just barely out of reach too). The hammer and trigger are not a part of the system, and the hammer will fall if you pull the trigger with the safety on. This is different than the Beretta/3rd Gen Smith system, because those guns drop the hammer once the pin is protected as a part of the lever throw. Stock photo, not a pic of mine. I paid $290 for it around '00. 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 11:29:47 PM EDT
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Not so much the polymer Witness that you posted, but Tangfolio makes some damned nice guns. I'm going to add a Witness Match to the safe someday. I also have a Bersa Thunder in .380 (their little PPK clone) that has been a good shooter. I've even carried it, but only when I'm in a Bond mood. ETA: The Match version of the Tanfo: http://mysite.verizon.net/reso3b4u/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/eaamatch.jpg I actually hope that people look down their noses at the Witness pistols. I do not like the polymer framed ones, but the Steel framed ones without the rounded slide tops are well made. If more people bought them, they would go up in price like the CZ's did. Bersa makes decent pistols for the money. Not as smooth as the Witness, but good carry guns. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 11:33:43 PM EDT
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I had a accurate and reliable Stoger Cougar, but I guess that would be sub-brand. I've considered Witness before, but couldn't convince myself. Isn't Stoeger a Beretta brand? UHP actually issues Cougars. http://publicsafety.utah.gov/highwaypatrol/history_2000/beretta.html |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 11:47:21 PM EDT
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The Tanfoglio CZ clones are considered top of the line for USPSA Production division. I wouldn't call them off brand. No idea about their polymer stuff though. I'm not sure I'd even call them CZ clones
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Posted: 8/26/2014 11:52:39 PM EDT
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Does a Seecamp count?
I have old WWI and WWII era pistols not sure if those are really off brand either because there were ALOT of them made for the wars. |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 12:06:43 AM EDT
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Canik Stingray AKA an ambidextrous, manual safety CZP01.
This thing is a tack driver and 100% reliable so far. |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 12:07:37 AM EDT
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I still have my first gun, my Hi-Point C9. I just can't bring myself to get rid of it. It never fails to go bang when asked...
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Posted: 8/27/2014 12:59:11 AM EDT
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In the garbage, from my short experience with one  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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XD wasn't mentioned in either category, where does it fall? You just do not know awesome when you see it. |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 1:00:45 AM EDT
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I have a first gen SKYY/SCCY CPX-1. I'd trade it for a hipoint in a heartbeat. It has broke everything at least once. 
Lifetime Warranty though. I tried the SCCY also and really wanted to like it, but it was junk. |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 5:23:01 AM EDT
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Canik Stingray AKA an ambidextrous, manual safety CZP01. http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg482/verticalgain/misc/20140807_025150_zpsi1lthy1_edit_1409126649505_zpslyqookuw.jpg This thing is a tack driver and 100% reliable so far. This looks nice! |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 5:36:30 AM EDT
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I had a accurate and reliable Stoger Cougar, but I guess that would be sub-brand. I've considered Witness before, but couldn't convince myself. No experience with the steel framed witness pistols but did have a witness P. Nothing but trouble, jamming wise. Sent it back, they said it was fixed and it still jammed with quality FMJ. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 7:36:19 AM EDT
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I tried the SCCY also and really wanted to like it, but it was junk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a first gen SKYY/SCCY CPX-1. I'd trade it for a hipoint in a heartbeat. It has broke everything at least once.
Lifetime Warranty though. I tried the SCCY also and really wanted to like it, but it was junk. front sight popped off recoil spring retaining screw backed out, bent, and broke saftey engages while shooting safety broke mag release engages while shooting mag split on the seam 
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Posted: 8/28/2014 7:46:43 AM EDT
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No experience with the steel framed witness pistols but did have a witness P. Nothing but trouble, jamming wise. Sent it back, they said it was fixed and it still jammed with quality FMJ. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had a accurate and reliable Stoger Cougar, but I guess that would be sub-brand. I've considered Witness before, but couldn't convince myself. No experience with the steel framed witness pistols but did have a witness P. Nothing but trouble, jamming wise. Sent it back, they said it was fixed and it still jammed with quality FMJ. That's what makes Witness/Tanfoglio an "off brand" in the US -- the customer service for the importer has a history of being less than stellar. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 7:55:35 AM EDT
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i hate cheap shit guns, that being said i took a bersa .380 (walther pp looking gun) on trade. i had about 75 bucks in it, it was a decent gun. i would by it again for less than 200 bucks, i gave that pistol to my stepfather. if that pistol was typical of bersa quality i would have no problem recommending them. My Bersa thunder is the only gun out of all the guns me and my 4 shooting buddies shoot, that has never failed, not even once. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 8:04:14 AM EDT
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Star Firestar in .45, very nice concealed carry gun, if you can find a holster and the weight doesn't bother you.
Raven .25, it was cheap but as long as you don't dry fire it a lot very reliable. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 8:16:13 AM EDT
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Zastava EZ Series http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/190327041.jpg How is the quality of these guns? Worth a damn or a waste of time and money? I've had one of these for several years. It has been a rock-solid performer. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 8:26:09 AM EDT
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My Bersa thunder is the only gun out of all the guns me and my 4 shooting buddies shoot, that has never failed, not even once. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i hate cheap shit guns, that being said i took a bersa .380 (walther pp looking gun) on trade. i had about 75 bucks in it, it was a decent gun. i would by it again for less than 200 bucks, i gave that pistol to my stepfather. if that pistol was typical of bersa quality i would have no problem recommending them. My Bersa thunder is the only gun out of all the guns me and my 4 shooting buddies shoot, that has never failed, not even once. Glad to hear it. I'm picking my BT Plus up tomorrow. Classy lookin gun and 15+1 rounds of 380+P oughta be sufficient. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 8:31:04 AM EDT
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XD wasn't mentioned in either category, where does it fall? |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 8:31:55 AM EDT
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I like old FEG firearms.
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Posted: 8/28/2014 8:49:28 AM EDT
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I have a Rossi 971. I paid $200 for it. It locks up tight, it's accurate, and it goes bang every time.
YMMV |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 9:17:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Star Firestar in .45, very nice concealed carry gun, if you can find a holster and the weight doesn't bother you. Raven .25, it was cheap but as long as you don't dry fire it a lot very reliable. Star was never an off brand. They just went out of business. Same thing with Astra.... both were great gun makers from Spain.
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Posted: 8/28/2014 9:30:02 AM EDT
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I have an "off brand" Girsan 1911 and believe it or not, it's one of my most accurate pistols. She's a fun one to shoot.
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Posted: 8/28/2014 9:31:12 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm often intreaged by the Rossi revolvers. Never have pulled the trigger though. Stick through a bucket of rocks. Very rough. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 9:33:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Tanfoglio CZ clones are considered top of the line for USPSA Production division. I wouldn't call them off brand. No idea about their polymer stuff though. They have been active in IPSC/USPSA for over 20 years. They speak race guns. |
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