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Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:40:35 PM EDT
[#1]
Links not working for me.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:41:51 PM EDT
[#2]
Corrected now
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:42:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Linky no worky.

fixed
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:44:30 PM EDT
[#4]
I dare them to bring it up before Nov.

Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:45:40 PM EDT
[#5]


[Congressional Bills 113th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Printing Office]
[H.R. 5344 Introduced in House (IH)]

113th CONGRESS
 2d Session
                               H. R. 5344

 To prohibit the purchase, ownership, or possession of enhanced body
                 armor by civilians, with exceptions.


_______________________________________________________________________


                   IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                            July 31, 2014

Mr. Honda (for himself, Ms. Kelly of Illinois, Mr. Hastings of Florida,
and Mr. Pascrell) introduced the following bill; which was referred to
                    the Committee on the Judiciary

_______________________________________________________________________

                                A BILL



 To prohibit the purchase, ownership, or possession of enhanced body
                 armor by civilians, with exceptions.

   Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

   This Act may be cited as the ``Responsible Body Armor Possession
Act''.

SEC. 2. BAN ON PURCHASE, OWNERSHIP, OR POSSESSION OF ENHANCED BODY
             ARMOR BY CIVILIANS; EXCEPTIONS.

   (a) In General.--Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is
amended by adding at the end the following:
``Sec. 932. Ban on purchase, ownership, or possession of enhanced body
             armor by civilians
   ``(a) Except as provided in subsection (b), it shall be unlawful
for a person to purchase, own, or possess enhanced body armor.
   ``(b) Subsection (a) shall not apply to--
           ``(1) a purchase, ownership, or possession by or under the
       authority of--
                   ``(A) the United States or any department or agency
               of the United States; or
                   ``(B) a State, or a department, agency, or
               political subdivision of a State; or
           ``(2) enhanced body armor that was lawfully possessed by
       any person at any time before the date this section takes
       effect.''.
   (b) Enhanced Body Armor Defined.--Section 921(a) of such title is
amended by adding at the end the following:
   ``(36) The term `enhanced body armor' means body armor, including a
helmet or shield, the ballistic resistance of which meets or exceeds
the ballistic performance of Type III armor, determined using National
Institute of Justice Standard-0101.06.''.
   (c) Penalties.--Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding
at the end the following:
   ``(8) Whoever knowingly violates section 932 shall be fined under
this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.''.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:47:14 PM EDT
[#6]
The sponsor and 3 (yes, only 3) cosponsors all demorats, from CA, NJ, IL and FL.

My shocked face:

Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:48:29 PM EDT
[#7]
I guess I need to buy those AR500 plates

It's all I can afford
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:48:37 PM EDT
[#8]
ordered a chest rig and some plates three days ago
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:51:00 PM EDT
[#10]
ZeroHedge must be having a slow news day
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:51:02 PM EDT
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Posession banned.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:51:48 PM EDT
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I don't think they're trying to grandfather it. MEANING, it doesn't matter when you got it, it's illegal to possess.







Am I correct? I see no grandfather clause in there.

 
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:52:02 PM EDT
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Posession banned.
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Posession banned.

Oh, they're going full retard. Got ya
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:52:56 PM EDT
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No, probably just trying to drive some up some hysteria.  Every year retards in congress introduce bills that go absolutely nowhere, but you'd think from the headlines in the stories about these bills they were already signed into law.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:53:12 PM EDT
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  I don't think they're trying to grandfather it. MEANING, it doesn't matter when you got it, it's illegal to possess.

Am I correct? I see no grandfather clause in there.
 
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I guess I need to buy those AR500 plates

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  I don't think they're trying to grandfather it. MEANING, it doesn't matter when you got it, it's illegal to possess.

Am I correct? I see no grandfather clause in there.
 

``(2) enhanced body armor that was lawfully possessed by
any person at any time before the date this section takes
effect.''.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:56:21 PM EDT
[#16]
Someone insert a video of Harry Browne where the guy is calling someone and all his relative, ancestors, and off spring cunts or cunty.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:56:42 PM EDT
[#17]
You know, its been going on for years now, EVERY item related to the mil or Leo I start looking to buy becomes the newest congris critters thing to BAN.

MG

Ap ammo

Surplus trucks.

Body armor.



So stupid, just so fucking stupid, maybe I should start planning to buy a congres then hopefully they will ban themselves.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:57:23 PM EDT
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No, probably just trying to drive some up some hysteria.  Every year retards in congress introduce bills that go absolutely nowhere, but you'd think from the headlines in the stories about these bills they were already signed into law.
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No, probably just trying to drive some up some hysteria.  Every year retards in congress introduce bills that go absolutely nowhere, but you'd think from the headlines in the stories about these bills they were already signed into law.


They must have stock in armor companies.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:58:00 PM EDT
[#19]
This is the first time I've seen the text of the bill. So he really is trying to outlaw metal rectangles. Fascinating.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:58:19 PM EDT
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Posession banned.

Oh, they're going full retard. Got ya


Which means its highly unlikely to pass.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:58:45 PM EDT
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``(2) enhanced body armor that was lawfully possessed by

any person at any time before the date this section takes

effect.''.

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I guess I need to buy those AR500 plates



It's all I can afford


  I don't think they're trying to grandfather it. MEANING, it doesn't matter when you got it, it's illegal to possess.



Am I correct? I see no grandfather clause in there.

 


``(2) enhanced body armor that was lawfully possessed by

any person at any time before the date this section takes

effect.''.





 
Roger.




I missed that.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:59:14 PM EDT
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No, probably just trying to drive some up some hysteria.  Every year retards in congress introduce bills that go absolutely nowhere, but you'd think from the headlines in the stories about these bills they were already signed into law.
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No, probably just trying to drive some up some hysteria.  Every year retards in congress introduce bills that go absolutely nowhere, but you'd think from the headlines in the stories about these bills they were already signed into law.


Sounds about right.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:59:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Knowing this site no one will have any anyway.
You will all buy them and sell them on the site.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:00:15 PM EDT
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Sounds about right.
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No, probably just trying to drive some up some hysteria.  Every year retards in congress introduce bills that go absolutely nowhere, but you'd think from the headlines in the stories about these bills they were already signed into law.


Sounds about right.




Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:01:03 PM EDT
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Knowing this site no one will have any anyway.
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one of the site sponsors just had a sale.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:01:13 PM EDT
[#26]
meh, i'm to fat for body armor.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:01:29 PM EDT
[#27]
Why do civilians need body armor anyway?
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:01:57 PM EDT
[#28]
Meh....

Right in the text of the bill it gives a state the authority to override the law for it's residents.

Bad bill writing is bad....thankfully.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:02:26 PM EDT
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Why do civilians need body armor anyway? *snicker*
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FIFY
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:03:54 PM EDT
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Face palm.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:05:47 PM EDT
[#31]
Gov Track says,

"H.R. 5344: Responsible Body Armor Possession ..."

"Introduced:  Jul 31, 2014
Status:  Referred to Committee on Jul 31, 2014
Prognosis 2% chance of being enacted"

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr5344

I give this 0.002% of being enacted.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:08:40 PM EDT
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Do they not make body armor for fat people?  I personally know some 350 pound cops, one of them is 5'8".  I bet he has body armor.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:09:10 PM EDT
[#33]
Sweet!  I'm pretty sure I have an old IBA tucked away in some tote somewhere (?)



It's a shame I don't have an IOTV laying around....retirement could've been so nice
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:09:51 PM EDT
[#34]
Very old news... So two weeks ago...
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:10:41 PM EDT
[#35]


Not sure why they want to ban body armor. It's not like their execution squads will be aiming for center mass when they line the sheeple against the wall.



Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:10:55 PM EDT
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  I don't think they're trying to grandfather it. MEANING, it doesn't matter when you got it, it's illegal to possess.

Am I correct? I see no grandfather clause in there.

 
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  I don't think they're trying to grandfather it. MEANING, it doesn't matter when you got it, it's illegal to possess.

Am I correct? I see no grandfather clause in there.

 


You are incorrect

Exceptions:

(2)enhanced body armor that was lawfully possessed by
any person at any time before the date this section takes
effect.''
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Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:11:27 PM EDT
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Oh, they're going full retard. Got ya
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I guess I need to buy those AR500 plates

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Posession banned.

Oh, they're going full retard. Got ya


Wait till they re-define what "armor" means
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:11:41 PM EDT
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Choke yourself.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:11:56 PM EDT
[#39]
So I take the AR-500 "Target plates" out of my carrier?
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:13:07 PM EDT
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Gov Track says,

"H.R. 5344: Responsible Body Armor Possession ..."

"Introduced:  Jul 31, 2014
Status:  Referred to Committee on Jul 31, 2014
Prognosis 2% chance of being enacted"

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr5344

I give this 0.002% of being enacted.
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Never underestimate the stupidity of the elected.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:13:56 PM EDT
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Wait till they re-define what "armor" means
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Posession banned.

Oh, they're going full retard. Got ya


Wait till they re-define what "armor" means


Are 5lb gummi bears included in the ban?

Just think, bathroom tile covered by 5 lb gummi bear bullet resistant vests being sold on the black market.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:15:13 PM EDT
[#42]
Why on Earth would they waster time banning that?

Do something useful folks - please. Can't wait to flush them all in 2016.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:21:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Odd designation for a Congressional bill.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:21:25 PM EDT
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Why on Earth would they waster time banning that?

Do something useful folks - please. Can't wait to flush them all in 2016.
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I hope so also, but with idiots thinking that being a liberal shit bag is "trendy" and "hip" things are going to get a lot worse.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:22:13 PM EDT
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Why on Earth would they waster time banning that?

Do something useful folks - please. Can't wait to flush them all in 2016.
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Please name anything useful the gov't has done in years?
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:22:20 PM EDT
[#46]
Banning steel? Good luck.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:22:54 PM EDT
[#47]
Clint Eastwood didn't need off the shelf body armor.

Police, you are the "exception"? Police are civilians. You ban me, you ban you.

So, go ahead and ban it for civilians. I have AR500 and RhinoLiner.

Fucking stupid general public. Stupid people drag the world down. Choke yourself.

Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:24:38 PM EDT
[#48]
The only reason I want body armor now is because they want to ban it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:25:44 PM EDT
[#49]
Because it doesn't affect your average bubba, it will be banned!

Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:26:27 PM EDT
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Are you a cop, or just an idiot?

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