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Posted: 8/21/2014 4:37:17 PM EDT
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Our brave Military really is the epitome of Lions being led by donkeys. Our Soldiers deserve better than this. We all deserve better. 
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Posted: 8/21/2014 4:40:29 PM EDT
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No, they get their funding from dumbshit European governments that pay up to $125 million for the release of a single hostage...  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS got their funding from Iraq, due to Obama No, they get their funding from dumbshit European governments that pay up to $125 million for the release of a single hostage... Who cares when Germany's paying? |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 4:42:29 PM EDT
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No, they get their funding from dumbshit European governments that pay up to $125 million for the release of a single hostage... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS got their funding from Iraq, due to Obama No, they get their funding from dumbshit European governments that pay up to $125 million for the release of a single hostage... Lets not forget our secret and unaudited 'aid' to Syrian terrorists. Lots of ARs in ISIS hands, it seems... |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 4:51:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat's the amazing part. all the terrorist fuckheads don't even need to do all the shit they do. in 30 years they will dominate everything with population and vote themselves into power. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 4:53:16 PM EDT
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I just love how all these miserable cock sucking Democrats in the administration are standing around with their thumb up their asses, doing nothing more than making observations about how fucking crazy the goddamned world has gotten on their miserable unclefucking watch. Hagel was a republican....From Nebraska.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 5:18:50 PM EDT
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No, they get their funding from dumbshit European governments that pay up to $125 million for the release of a single hostage... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS got their funding from Iraq, due to Obama No, they get their funding from dumbshit European governments that pay up to $125 million for the release of a single hostage... They got a billion dollars from knocking over the banks in Mosul. They get oil revenue. That's entirely the fault of Zippy. The Euroweenies just put fuel on the fire. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 5:23:18 PM EDT
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Obama loves the idea of islam dominating the world.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 5:28:04 PM EDT
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At this point all I can say is what difference does it make. Nothing's going to happen until the poser is out of office..
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Posted: 8/21/2014 5:59:03 PM EDT
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At this point all I can say is what difference does it make. Nothing's going to happen until the poser is out of office.. And then, nothing will continue to happen. Nothing good, at any rate. The glass is half full. Unfortunately, its half full of shit. 
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Posted: 8/21/2014 6:09:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for subscribing to my newsletter. In the next edition, I suggest that Obama should get fucked by a crab-infested dick in the fucking hole he breathes from, John Frankenstein Kerry should attempt to find a closet rod strong enough to bear the weight of his misshapen body and a stout belt that is large enough to fit around the bolts in his neck, and Chuck Hagel's children should go join photojournalism school. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just love how all these miserable cock sucking Democrats in the administration are standing around with their thumb up their asses, doing nothing more than making observations about how fucking crazy the goddamned world has gotten on their miserable unclefucking watch. You are a luminary. Once every generation, comes a man who can speak in the simplest of terms and create a cognizance of reality that all may understand with one run-on sentence.  Thanks for subscribing to my newsletter. In the next edition, I suggest that Obama should get fucked by a crab-infested dick in the fucking hole he breathes from, John Frankenstein Kerry should attempt to find a closet rod strong enough to bear the weight of his misshapen body and a stout belt that is large enough to fit around the bolts in his neck, and Chuck Hagel's children should go join photojournalism school. Now, THAT is a run-on sentence to be proud of. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 6:18:33 PM EDT
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And yet we're going to do fuck-all nothing about it, despite this being a far better reason to invade Iraq than the last time we did it. We shouldn't have gone in before, and we shouldn't go in now, and if the GOP runs on this (going back to Iraq), they will get crushed at the voting booth and deservedly so. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, enough! No more unwinnable wars. No more nation building. Keep the fanatics out of the West (tighten immigration) and let them stew in the own self made hell hole. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 6:20:13 PM EDT
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We shouldn't have gone in before, and we shouldn't go in now, and if the GOP runs on this (going back to Iraq), they will get crushed at the voting booth and deservedly so. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, enough! No more unwinnable wars. No more nation building. Keep the fanatics out of the West (tighten immigration) and let them stew in the own self made hell hole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And yet we're going to do fuck-all nothing about it, despite this being a far better reason to invade Iraq than the last time we did it. We shouldn't have gone in before, and we shouldn't go in now, and if the GOP runs on this (going back to Iraq), they will get crushed at the voting booth and deservedly so. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, enough! No more unwinnable wars. No more nation building. Keep the fanatics out of the West (tighten immigration) and let them stew in the own self made hell hole. We shouldn't go back and re-occupy Iraq, but under the We Broke It We Bought It doctrine, we owe the region a solid for setting up the conditions that led to the rise of ISIS. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 6:23:45 PM EDT
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Am I paranoid for thinking that Obama admin wants ISIS to grow so they can destabilize the world? Am I even more paranoid for thinking that they want ISIS to attack us at home so they can push Patriot Act v3 through?  I can't imagine the monstrosity those Socialists would create with a new Patriot Act. The stuff of nightmares for sure. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 6:31:06 PM EDT
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So...if we do something, is this going to be a road trip, Iraq to Syria?
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Posted: 8/21/2014 8:20:20 PM EDT
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We shouldn't go back and re-occupy Iraq, but under the We Broke It We Bought It doctrine, we owe the region a solid for setting up the conditions that led to the rise of ISIS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And yet we're going to do fuck-all nothing about it, despite this being a far better reason to invade Iraq than the last time we did it. We shouldn't have gone in before, and we shouldn't go in now, and if the GOP runs on this (going back to Iraq), they will get crushed at the voting booth and deservedly so. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, enough! No more unwinnable wars. No more nation building. Keep the fanatics out of the West (tighten immigration) and let them stew in the own self made hell hole. We shouldn't go back and re-occupy Iraq, but under the We Broke It We Bought It doctrine, we owe the region a solid for setting up the conditions that led to the rise of ISIS. 
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Posted: 8/21/2014 8:41:28 PM EDT
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Is that anything like a crisis ?
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Posted: 8/21/2014 9:18:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat was pretty interesting! We have to change "We f*cking better get ready.' to " We better get f*cking!"  kinda makes all the Crusader talk seem like a waste of time. Do you think we are fighting a battle that won't be won? Numbers don't lie and those weren't looking real good. I think it might not all go as they think it will, but if what they said about getting below the 2.1 is true, we really are screwed. maybe that's why Obama is letting in all the South of the border folks, help us keep ahead.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 9:21:27 PM EDT
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Maybe this is like the GI Joe movie where the president is an impostor and ISIS aka Cobra troops are going to replace GI Joes and take over the country and blame it on America!
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Posted: 8/21/2014 9:47:15 PM EDT
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We must see the forest, and stop looking for the trees.
Sunni Wahhabism and it's offshoots are the problem. It's not a single man, or even all the "terrorist" organization, their offshoots, and franchises. It's an idea, and belief, held by people who've succumbed to it. Like it or not, this idea is held by old people, woman, children, and men, and not just the ones carrying weapons. When a suicide bomber blows themselves up, indiscriminately killing men, women, and children, his or her mother feels no shame or sorrow. She rejoices, and joins in her communities celebration of her child's martyrdom. Small children are taught violence and killing are moral and honorable, and this idea is reinforced throughout their education, and life. These people do not want individual freedom, they want Sharia law to control every aspect of their life. They believe their god commands it. We kill a "terrorist" and hand chocolate and pose for pictures with the little children who will grow up and replace them. We take out an insurgency, and then provide their community with humanitarian aid, build them power stations, water and sewage plants, schools, hospitals, roads and bridges. We do this because we don't see their community as part of the insurgency. But it is. Their cities and towns, are their bases, their community are their support network. When we rebuild them we are rebuilding the "terrorist insurgency" to fight us another day. Americans want to be the "good guys", we want people to like us. We believe that all people want to be free. But in this particular case that can and will never happen. They don't want it. Putting "feet on the ground" will never work. For one thing, ground combat is too personal. And we need to take out cities and towns. We need to lay waste to power stations, water and sewage plants, farmlands, dams, bridges, hospitals, markets, mosks, government buildings, police stations, communication networks. We need to make it too risky for more then a dozen to gather. We need to send the "hardcore" believers back to the wilderness. I believe the initiation of violence, and violent coercion are immoral. These people don't. They've made their intentions clear. They are using violent coercion in an effort to intimidate us. They've laid out their intention to do violence. We must take action. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 10:04:09 PM EDT
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We must see the forest, and stop looking for the trees. Sunni Wahhabism and it's offshoots are the problem. It's not a single man, or even all the "terrorist" organization, their offshoots, and franchises. It's an idea, and belief, held by people who've succumbed to it. Like it or not, this idea is held by old people, woman, children, and men, and not just the ones carrying weapons. When a suicide bomber blows themselves up, indiscriminately killing men, women, and children, his or her mother feels no shame or sorrow. She rejoices, and joins in her communities celebration of her child's martyrdom. Small children are taught violence and killing are moral and honorable, and this idea is reinforced throughout their education, and life. These people do not want individual freedom, they want Sharia law to control every aspect of their life. They believe their god commands it. We kill a "terrorist" and hand chocolate and pose for pictures with the little children who will grow up and replace them. We take out an insurgency, and then provide their community with humanitarian aid, build them power stations, water and sewage plants, schools, hospitals, roads and bridges. We do this because we don't see their community as part of the insurgency. But it is. Their cities and towns, are their bases, their community are their support network. When we rebuild them we are rebuilding the "terrorist insurgency" to fight us another day. Americans want to be the "good guys", we want people to like us. We believe that all people want to be free. But in this particular case that can and will never happen. They don't want it. Putting "feet on the ground" will never work. For one thing, ground combat is too personal. And we need to take out cities and towns. We need to lay waste to power stations, water and sewage plants, farmlands, dams, bridges, hospitals, markets, mosks, government buildings, police stations, communication networks. We need to make it too risky for more then a dozen to gather. We need to send the "hardcore" believers back to the wilderness. I believe the initiation of violence, and violent coercion are immoral. These people don't. They've made their intentions clear. They are using violent coercion in an effort to intimidate us. They've laid out their intention to do violence. We must take action. until a draft is called and a 30 million man strong army backed by all out bombing campaigns decimates the entire region this is unwinnable. Utterly so. 2million men cant fight a billion nor hold the ground that needs to be conquered.. The romans knew how to concquer, and that is by any means necessary. We don't. And That will never happen. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 10:30:58 PM EDT
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We must see the forest, and stop looking for the trees. Sunni Wahhabism and it's offshoots are the problem. It's not a single man, or even all the "terrorist" organization, their offshoots, and franchises. It's an idea, and belief, held by people who've succumbed to it. Like it or not, this idea is held by old people, woman, children, and men, and not just the ones carrying weapons. When a suicide bomber blows themselves up, indiscriminately killing men, women, and children, his or her mother feels no shame or sorrow. She rejoices, and joins in her communities celebration of her child's martyrdom. Small children are taught violence and killing are moral and honorable, and this idea is reinforced throughout their education, and life. These people do not want individual freedom, they want Sharia law to control every aspect of their life. They believe their god commands it. We kill a "terrorist" and hand chocolate and pose for pictures with the little children who will grow up and replace them. We take out an insurgency, and then provide their community with humanitarian aid, build them power stations, water and sewage plants, schools, hospitals, roads and bridges. We do this because we don't see their community as part of the insurgency. But it is. Their cities and towns, are their bases, their community are their support network. When we rebuild them we are rebuilding the "terrorist insurgency" to fight us another day. Americans want to be the "good guys", we want people to like us. We believe that all people want to be free. But in this particular case that can and will never happen. They don't want it. Putting "feet on the ground" will never work. For one thing, ground combat is too personal. And we need to take out cities and towns. We need to lay waste to power stations, water and sewage plants, farmlands, dams, bridges, hospitals, markets, mosks, government buildings, police stations, communication networks. We need to make it too risky for more then a dozen to gather. We need to send the "hardcore" believers back to the wilderness. I believe the initiation of violence, and violent coercion are immoral. These people don't. They've made their intentions clear. They are using violent coercion in an effort to intimidate us. They've laid out their intention to do violence. We must take action. Islam is the problem. From 632 AD, this murderous theocratic political system has been at war with classical civilization. They've neatly wiped it out several times. The Roman Empire wasn't destroyed by Barbarians, it was destroyed by jihadis. The Crusades were a very meager attempt to fight back. The western world is gonna have to find a lot more steel in their spine to stop the next caliphate. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 3:10:20 AM EDT
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That was pretty interesting! We have to change "We f*cking better get ready.' to " We better get f*cking!" kinda makes all the Crusader talk seem like a waste of time. Do you think we are fighting a battle that won't be won? Numbers don't lie and those weren't looking real good. I think it might not all go as they think it will, but if what they said about getting below the 2.1 is true, we really are screwed. maybe that's why Obama is letting in all the South of the border folks, help us keep ahead.Quote HistoryQuoted:
That was pretty interesting! We have to change "We f*cking better get ready.' to " We better get f*cking!" kinda makes all the Crusader talk seem like a waste of time. Do you think we are fighting a battle that won't be won? Numbers don't lie and those weren't looking real good. I think it might not all go as they think it will, but if what they said about getting below the 2.1 is true, we really are screwed. maybe that's why Obama is letting in all the South of the border folks, help us keep ahead.Red: The final outcome is beyond my vision, but I know what will happen if I/we do nothing. Thus, unless one is ready to surrender/convert, there remains one option - fight with all you have as long as you have. Blue: If we could educate ALL immigrants in traditional Americanism (the principles this nation was founded upon and used to be taught to our children in the pre-Progressive era) that could be what a certain gun shop calls a "Game changer." |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 3:16:51 AM EDT
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I saw this on TV yesterday.
Who is this "Hagel" guy? I've never seen him, before... |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 3:18:22 AM EDT
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Islam is the problem. From 632 AD, this murderous theocratic political system has been at war with classical civilization. They've neatly wiped it out several times. The Roman Empire wasn't destroyed by Barbarians, it was destroyed by jihadis. The Crusades were a very meager attempt to fight back. The western world is gonna have to find a lot more steel in their spine to stop the next caliphate. Yep. Most folks don't realize that the Jihad attacked, slaughtered, and subjugated into Europe for 300 years before the first Crusade. The Crusades were a counter-Jihad, defensive wars (admittedly there were mistakes and excesses along the way) meant to push back the tide of Islam and retake lands that had been largely Christian before Mohammed's hordes. Those people call this the Third Great Jihad, while we go to extremes to pretend it is something else. They are committed to their cause, but we haven't been hurt badly enough to be awakened from our slumber. It will take the deaths of many thousands more people in the West before a Leader (which we are currently short on) stands up and says, "Enough! This ends now!" As for me, statistically I have in the neighborhood of 30 years left in my life, barring unforeseen circumstances that would preclude a natural death from aging. I probably won't be affected much by these events. It is the world my children and grandchildren will live in that concerns me. We have kicked the can down the road too long, and it is landing in the laps of our posterity. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 5:25:36 AM EDT
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This might be Chuck's way of distancing himself from this fiasco. I think he told the boss what kind of threat ISIS presents and was ignored. I wouldn't be surprised if he resigns in the near future. Sorry, I was watching Amerikan Idle... |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 5:40:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, they get their funding from dumbshit European governments that pay up to $125 million for the release of a single hostage... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ISIS got their funding from Iraq, due to Obama No, they get their funding from dumbshit European governments that pay up to $125 million for the release of a single hostage... My reference is in Iraq, during their recent multi city expansion, netting an easy $1B or more in assets. Why $125M is chump change when you own an Iraqi oil well or two |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 6:07:11 AM EDT
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Hagel was a republican....From Nebraska. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just love how all these miserable cock sucking Democrats in the administration are standing around with their thumb up their asses, doing nothing more than making observations about how fucking crazy the goddamned world has gotten on their miserable unclefucking watch. Hagel was a republican....From Nebraska. He's a fucking tool, and that's exactly why he was chosen to be SecDef. The perfect "yes man". |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 6:19:49 AM EDT
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He's a fucking tool, and that's exactly why he was chosen to be SecDef. The perfect "yes man". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just love how all these miserable cock sucking Democrats in the administration are standing around with their thumb up their asses, doing nothing more than making observations about how fucking crazy the goddamned world has gotten on their miserable unclefucking watch. Hagel was a republican....From Nebraska. He's a fucking tool, and that's exactly why he was chosen to be SecDef. The perfect "yes man". from wiki: Senate voting record[edit] Hagel's portrait as a senator. According to David Boaz, during the Bush administration, Hagel maintained a "traditionally Republican" voting record, receiving "a lifetime rating of 84 percent from the American Conservative Union and consistent A and B grades from the National Taxpayers Union."[32] On the Issues describes Hagel as a "libertarian-leaning conservative."[33] According to Boaz, among his most notable votes, Hagel: Voted for the Patriot Act;[34]
Voted for the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts;[35][36] 
Voted against No Child Left Behind;[37]
Voted against Bush’s Medicare prescription drug bill;[38]
Voted against McCain-Feingold.[39]
He's done better than most with a God da-da-damn R next to their name. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 6:23:34 AM EDT
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They could not have Fucked things up this well if they planned it.
Potus Zero & his minions are a complete group if idiots. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 6:33:42 AM EDT
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When ISIS main vehicle is something more advanced then a Toyota Hilux and their main weapon system is something other than the AK-47 I will worry more. ISIS is a threat and we should be watching them and hindering their every move but they are quite busy fighting the Kurds (Who we back) and the Shiites (backed by Iran) and will be for the foresee able future. ISIS is totally reliant on funding from rich Sunni Wahabists primarily Saudi, Quatari and Kuwatis. Cutting off the funding should be our real goal.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:31:10 AM EDT
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from wiki: Senate voting record[edit] Hagel's portrait as a senator. According to David Boaz, during the Bush administration, Hagel maintained a "traditionally Republican" voting record, receiving "a lifetime rating of 84 percent from the American Conservative Union and consistent A and B grades from the National Taxpayers Union."[32] On the Issues describes Hagel as a "libertarian-leaning conservative."[33] According to Boaz, among his most notable votes, Hagel: Voted for the Patriot Act;[34]
Voted for the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts;[35][36]
Voted against No Child Left Behind;[37]
Voted against Bush’s Medicare prescription drug bill;[38]
Voted against McCain-Feingold.[39]
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I just love how all these miserable cock sucking Democrats in the administration are standing around with their thumb up their asses, doing nothing more than making observations about how fucking crazy the goddamned world has gotten on their miserable unclefucking watch. Hagel was a republican....From Nebraska. He's a fucking tool, and that's exactly why he was chosen to be SecDef. The perfect "yes man". from wiki: Senate voting record[edit] Hagel's portrait as a senator. According to David Boaz, during the Bush administration, Hagel maintained a "traditionally Republican" voting record, receiving "a lifetime rating of 84 percent from the American Conservative Union and consistent A and B grades from the National Taxpayers Union."[32] On the Issues describes Hagel as a "libertarian-leaning conservative."[33] According to Boaz, among his most notable votes, Hagel: Voted for the Patriot Act;[34]
Voted for the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts;[35][36]
Voted against No Child Left Behind;[37]
Voted against Bush’s Medicare prescription drug bill;[38]
Voted against McCain-Feingold.[39]
He's done better than most with a God da-da-damn R next to their name. Decent voting record, but he lacks vision IMHO-something that's required for a job like SecDef. In some ways, he's the politically conservative version of Les Aspin. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:37:32 AM EDT
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When ISIS main vehicle is something more advanced then a Toyota Hilux and their main weapon system is something other than the AK-47 I will worry more. ISIS is a threat and we should be watching them and hindering their every move but they are quite busy fighting the Kurds (Who we back) and the Shiites (backed by Iran) and will be for the foresee able future. ISIS is totally reliant on funding from rich Sunni Wahabists primarily Saudi, Quatari and Kuwatis. Cutting off the funding should be our real goal. LOL with this funding crap. Haven't you seen the estimates of how much gold, and cash they've looted? It's astronomical. Second, they have one huge tactical advantage over western troops. They're more than willing to sacrifice themselves on offense, and like the terminators, they do not stop. They never stop. The history of Islam should tell you just how damn dangerous they are. 1400 years of slaughter, conquest and horrific violence. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:04:53 AM EDT
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LOL with this funding crap. Haven't you seen the estimates of how much gold, and cash they've looted? It's astronomical. Second, they have one huge tactical advantage over western troops. They're more than willing to sacrifice themselves on offense, and like the terminators, they do not stop. They never stop. The history of Islam should tell you just how damn dangerous they are. 1400 years of slaughter, conquest and horrific violence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When ISIS main vehicle is something more advanced then a Toyota Hilux and their main weapon system is something other than the AK-47 I will worry more. ISIS is a threat and we should be watching them and hindering their every move but they are quite busy fighting the Kurds (Who we back) and the Shiites (backed by Iran) and will be for the foresee able future. ISIS is totally reliant on funding from rich Sunni Wahabists primarily Saudi, Quatari and Kuwatis. Cutting off the funding should be our real goal. LOL with this funding crap. Haven't you seen the estimates of how much gold, and cash they've looted? It's astronomical. Second, they have one huge tactical advantage over western troops. They're more than willing to sacrifice themselves on offense, and like the terminators, they do not stop. They never stop. The history of Islam should tell you just how damn dangerous they are. 1400 years of slaughter, conquest and horrific violence. I've fought jihadis in Iraq as an infantryman. Wasn't impressed. You are talking out your behind. What are your credentials to evaluate the tactical ability of ISIS? They are men, poorly trained and lead but motivated. No air, arty or supporting fires beyond small arms. Their comms are cell phones. No Arab Nation military fields a competent conventional force and ISIS is no exception. For all their gold and nice equipment the Saudis and Kuwaitis would be rolled by an American heavy brigade combat team with the air assets of a MEU. ISIS is a regional threat to other substandard Arab and Persian state's militaries. The only threat they pose to the US is our energy interests and terrorist attacks. The history of Islamic states is getting badly beaten by Western militaries for the last 300+ years, since the siege of Vienna in 1683. Do you think the looted assets of ISIS exceed quarterly US defense spending? |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:10:52 AM EDT
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the caliphate ended in 1922 and it hasnt even been 100 years since its demise, yet they've never seen anything like this! LOL Short memory American leaders that are idiots... Well, this caliphate is different. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:16:34 AM EDT
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The Barbary pirates, slave-taking murderous bastards with beliefs in common with ISIS, were the first enemy we faced as a nation after independence. This is nothing new. No, we fought the French in the quasi-war right before the first Barbary War. But the quasi-war didn't involve any land action. We actually attempted regime change in the Barbary Wars. And this ignores indian wars. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:18:21 AM EDT
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Dear Chuck,
STFU and stick to the script. Regards, BHO |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:18:42 AM EDT
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Hagel is an R FWIW, a carpetbagging, RINO R ,but an R nonetheless No doubt part of the reason he was picked. His job was to dismantal the military. For Obama, it makes sense to have a repub do that. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:33:44 AM EDT
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Some US White House spokeswoman has just been on UK news
Main points Isis was created by Assad because Assad went to war with his own people. Isis has nothing to do with the state Iraq is in it's all Assad. You will not be working with Assad You will not be communicating with Assad even though you will be attacking the same targets. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:34:27 AM EDT
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I've fought jihadis in Iraq as an infantryman. Wasn't impressed. You are talking out your behind. What are your credentials to evaluate the tactical ability of ISIS? They are men, poorly trained and lead but motivated. No air, arty or supporting fires beyond small arms. Their comms are cell phones. No Arab Nation military fields a competent conventional force and ISIS is no exception. For all their gold and nice equipment the Saudis and Kuwaitis would be rolled by an American heavy brigade combat team with the air assets of a MEU. ISIS is a regional threat to other substandard Arab and Persian state's militaries. The only threat they pose to the US is our energy interests and terrorist attacks. The history of Islamic states is getting badly beaten by Western militaries for the last 300+ years, since the siege of Vienna in 1683. Do you think the looted assets of ISIS exceed quarterly US defense spending? The threat they pose is terrorism. The fact that they have done as well as they have in Syria and Iraq speaks for itself. No, they won't beat a Western army in actual war. But then, what will does the West have to fight? We left Iraq, letting them make huge gains there. The Democratic Party showed a willingness to use the Iraq War for political gain. That alone throws out the advantage we have with a Western army that can win fights. We have superb capabilities, but little will. They have little capability but considerable will. It sorta evens out. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:56:33 AM EDT
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This- it's one thing the lefties always miss- they feel so progressive, and never look to history for the answers that are right in front of everyone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the caliphate ended in 1922 and it hasnt even been 100 years since its demise, yet they've never seen anything like this! LOL Short memory American leaders that are idiots... This- it's one thing the lefties always miss- they feel so progressive, and never look to history for the answers that are right in front of everyone. Oh, they get it. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:58:55 AM EDT
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Anyone watch the cbsnews clip of the press conference where this was said: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iraq-turmoil/hagel-cautions-isis-beyond-anything-we-have-seen-n186226 "The only way to prepare for something like this is to take a cold, steely-eyed look at it and get ready." Holy shit Hagel, thats about the most eloquent, insightful thing I've heard all week. . Memo to all infidel: Preferred lubricant for bolt carrier group ia BACON GREASE |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:59:18 AM EDT
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Anyone watch the cbsnews clip of the press conference where this was said: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iraq-turmoil/hagel-cautions-isis-beyond-anything-we-have-seen-n186226 "The only way to prepare for something like this is to take a cold, steely-eyed look at it and get ready." Holy shit Hagel, thats about the most eloquent, insightful thing I've heard all week. . Memo to all infidel: Preferred lubricant for bolt carrier group is BACON GREASE |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 11:11:57 AM EDT
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The threat they pose is terrorism. The fact that they have done as well as they have in Syria and Iraq speaks for itself. No, they won't beat a Western army in actual war. But then, what will does the West have to fight? We left Iraq, letting them make huge gains there. The Democratic Party showed a willingness to use the Iraq War for political gain. That alone throws out the advantage we have with a Western army that can win fights. We have superb capabilities, but little will. They have little capability but considerable will. It sorta evens out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've fought jihadis in Iraq as an infantryman. Wasn't impressed. You are talking out your behind. What are your credentials to evaluate the tactical ability of ISIS? They are men, poorly trained and lead but motivated. No air, arty or supporting fires beyond small arms. Their comms are cell phones. No Arab Nation military fields a competent conventional force and ISIS is no exception. For all their gold and nice equipment the Saudis and Kuwaitis would be rolled by an American heavy brigade combat team with the air assets of a MEU. ISIS is a regional threat to other substandard Arab and Persian state's militaries. The only threat they pose to the US is our energy interests and terrorist attacks. The history of Islamic states is getting badly beaten by Western militaries for the last 300+ years, since the siege of Vienna in 1683. Do you think the looted assets of ISIS exceed quarterly US defense spending? The threat they pose is terrorism. The fact that they have done as well as they have in Syria and Iraq speaks for itself. No, they won't beat a Western army in actual war. But then, what will does the West have to fight? We left Iraq, letting them make huge gains there. The Democratic Party showed a willingness to use the Iraq War for political gain. That alone throws out the advantage we have with a Western army that can win fights. We have superb capabilities, but little will. They have little capability but considerable will. It sorta evens out. This. We do not have the political will to oppose them. We dare not even speak ill of Muslims. I guess our tactical superiority will win the day when they're trying a frontal attack, the problem is, they won't. They will harass us until our economy crumbles, and communists have taken over. At that point, it will be of little consequence to infiltrate and take over from the communists. Communists are even weaker willed than Jihadists. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 11:31:45 AM EDT
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Bracken nails the ROP in his latest essay. PBUH. link to the Bracken article mentioned, for those interested |
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