If by "Infantry" he means "MP" than he would be correct. It's ok, Army MP's like to tell people they're just like Infantry too. They aren't.

he also left his duty M9 laying around loaded at home and his kid blew his own head off with it.

Plus I'm pretty sure he was fucking around with the gay black alien dude on his squad.

I don't think so.

The dude in OP said "chair force guy claims AF security forces equals infantry".  

Hmmm .... run challenge needs full combat load. Pack, plate carrier, boots, etc. No pt shorts and running shoes sissy stuff if it's to be realistic.

Then do it for 4 to 30 years continuously, often in austere (in the army/navy definition of the word) environments.

i guess i suck then.

ETA: I'm still waiting for that DRich guy to chime back in with a "yeah, I'll go jog like those other two dudes".

 
I only know two dudes on this board that have run with me for-real.
Objectively, I would honestly have to say that they would agree with you.

I heard the combat breathing today, smelled Ax body spray and 2 Hungry Man dinners.  

I guess sometimes you got to treat yourself

How about this one...the MSgt (USAF Security Forces) on the right. I worked with him for a few years on Fort Dix before he went to Benning to become a Ranger School Instructor.

See if you can snap a few recon pics of the photos he has in his office.

From the Facebook fail thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/928246_Awkward_Facebook_moments___PICS.html&page=69#i48931446

He wears a Ranger tab, and that is good enough.

If he is a Ranger School Instructor, he is more than qualified to teach at that school.  The standards for being an instructor at that school are grueling and they demand the very same from their students, no excuses, the best, no-holds-barred.  Side note: most of the instructors have not been assigned to a Ranger Battalion.  This does not make them sub-standard or sub-par instructors.

All of the instructors at that school are Ranger School graduates that have met standards needed to teach at that school.

The fact that he even competed in the Best Ranger Competition speaks volumes.

Just because you haven't been made aware of other branches serving at the Army Ranger School, doesn't mean that they aren't there and that they aren't qualified to perform in those positions.
There are also United States Marine Corps instructors at the Ranger School, they are also fully qualified personnel.

This next piece isn't a rebuttal to you (Skg_Mre...) but an over-arching response to these ridiculous and endless streams of commentary in terms of "I read about it on a wiki page and that means I really know what the fuck is going on"  There are a lot of serious professionals on this board and most of the time we can be taken with a little (OK, a lot) salt... we're sarcastic assholes most of the time.  Roger, got it.
But they usually know what the hell they're talking about.

I enjoy a little gentle prodding at my fellow service members from time-to-time, and I catch my fair share as well, but to put serious consideration into claiming that one is superior in every way to the others is laughable.

I have enjoyed the support in delightful area-denial systems like AC-130 gunships, EOD protection, very professional terminal guidance, and echelons-above-me A-ISR/E-ISR support from the USAF.
I get a massive hard-on for the extremely proficient delivery of attack-air that the USMC and Navy provided on a regular basis when I was in a real crunch.
The large-scale support of Mother Army has been outstanding and I love her for it... you can call me a Mama's boy in that respect.  I'll own up to it.

This isn't a great place to get into a measuring contest to see which branch is the best, all of them bring quite a bit to the collective "table" in terms of supporting and executing combat operations.
If there was one branch that was the best at all of it... there would only be one branch.

There isn't one branch, and that speaks for itself.

I had the pleasure of seeing a batt boy tell an RI he wasn't a real Ranger. I laughed. He didn't. Batt boy didn't graduate.

stupid should hurt.

Most Army schools have billets for sister services, my MCCC small group class was taught by a Marine major and at airborne school there were Navy and AF instructors.  As for Ranger school each phase has it's own cadre; so you need enough instructors and support staff to handle roughly 300 students.  Since he's a MSGT (E-7) he would filling an E-7 billet and that could range from a lane walker to Operations NCO (IM FreeFall-E7 he was a Ranger School Instructor).  Either way you don't get to be an RI if you are a soup sandwich.

That being said AF SecFor are NOT infantry, they can go to some infantry courses (Ranger, Mortar Leaders Course) but they are geared for base defense not offensive operations, there were some select occurrences were raids were done close to airbases but they more align with Army MPs.  They aren't bad at what they do just don't make it more than what it is.  I've spent time as AF SecFor Officer and carry an MOS as an Army Infantry officer (primary MOS is Civil Affairs) and while a few things may be similar they are way different careers fields.

That MSgt is from Security Forces, obviously a Ranger grad, Airborne, and other qualifications that are beneficial to the position.  As to why the billet is filled by the AF, leaders can come from all services and specialties. With the need for boots on the ground during the war, there are many 'non-traditional' specialties that gained valuable experience through RFF and ILO taskings. There are also Airborne and SRT instructors that come from Security Forces.
ETA Hawkeye66 beat me to it....

I assure you it did.

All Global Force Management (GFM) deployment of forces come via a Geographic Combat Commander Request For Force, once the RFF gets to the joint staff and the service HQ GFM Boards.  If the capabilities required cannot  be met fthrough a unit whose METs meet the requirement than the services are tasked to provide a force In Lieu Of a standing force

Absolutely sir.

For the others playing along at home, the USMC and USAF have plenty of skin in the game, they both send plenty of candidates.

It's more than reasonable that they have a fair number of instructors as well.

I don't think our initial small-footprint strategy in Afghanistan should be considered anything but an abysmal failure that lead exactly to a "vietnam" style war--a protracted counter-insurgency.  It is exactly what we shouldn't have done.  It would have been more effective to pay the taliban 50 billion dollars on the down low than to condemn a generation guerrilla warfare in the hindu kush because some idiots believed that air power and a small elite force in conjunction with an utterly corrupt society could accomplish what has traditionally required sizable conventional forces.

Really though, I loved it there...but it was dumb from a foreign policy perspective and the long-term interests of the United States- compared to what could have been.

lulz.

outsourced ground power.

you know.  The same sorta smart action that gives you Al Quaeda in charge of Libya and decades long occupations.

Force multipliers still are supporting the base force.

KLA is another great example.

The only true airpower only campaign since WW2 was Eldorado Canyon which brought us, joy of joys, Pan Am 103.

The kool aid runs deep.

Regularguy was 100 percent correct with his contention of ILOs being a impudence for slots for Ranger school, when the FA was given ILOs to be security and infantry they sent quite a few 13As through the school.  But the RFF was incorrect because all needs are filled via RFFs

Afghanistan was fucked from the get-go.

You can't take 20% of a population and put them in charge of a whole nation, with a French style constitution, and expect the 80% with nothing to lose to just go along with it.

As long as Karzai is in charge appointing provincial and district governors, there was no military strategy to unfuck that.
It wasn't big army being battle space owners.
It was Hazarras led by Tajiks killing Pashtoons and pulling Sherzai out of Kandahar.

What SG Team was he on?

It's a real thing but it shouldn't sound like you're giving birth.  After a stressful situation you can key down by controlling your breathing.

Inhale normally for 4 seconds, hold for 4, exhale normally for 4 seconds.

If I can hear your "combat breathing" from the next cubicle you're Just being an attention whore. It's not some extreme high speed-low drag shit but it's a good way to get your heart rate back down after a run.

I was fortunate in that I got to spend some quality time with both Eikenberry and Bolger.

There was no ANA before 2006, so it was US forces working with indigs.

In 2006 the wheels came off for a number of reasons.
1.  Hazarras led by Tajiks killing Pashtoons.
2.  Sherzai got booted out of Kandahar.  I always thought that was Karzai's move to put AWK in charge.  But it turns out US forces forced Karzai to boot him.  Fucking stupid as hell.
3.  Karzai got to appoint all the District Governors personally.  Fucking disastor
4.  AQ started getting their asses kicked in Iraq and swung back to A-Stan as a priority.

Big army is a bunch of functional retards, agreed.
But nobody was bailing us out of that goat rope.

I'll add that the gloves came off in Helmand in 08.

The intercepted signal traffic was the best, "We don't know how to fight them, they don't follow the rules."

We didn't exactly have a lot of rules that go around.