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I meant that "they were not depot rebuilt to make ready for sale/distribution." They look like they were used up until recently and then simply stripped and driven to us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, The vehicles will be fully serviced and probably depot rebuilt. Not good as new BUT damn close. Sometimes the contractors they hire to service/rebuild the equipment are shitty but odds are you will get good trucks. The Army is very by the book when it comes to releasing serviceable equipment. Just got back from inspecting two of the Humvees. They are most definitely not "depot rebuilt." It looks like they were simply stripped of anything not vehicle-specific (radios, etc) and parked. One is a 2009 and the other is a 2004. The '09 is in better shape than the '04, as would be expected. Pics incoming. Yes they were, you can see on the data plate when they were re-manufactured. That truck is from the 80's or early 90's. I meant that "they were not depot rebuilt to make ready for sale/distribution." They look like they were used up until recently and then simply stripped and driven to us. If that's really the case then I'd jump all over them, use the, and sell them in 7 years for a profit. A 1025 is a weapons carrier, hence the racks in the back. That grit looks like standard Fort Drum tank trail dust, it builds up. Pyres sure wash it out and it will look different. |
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You know FD's have been using hummer's since the day they hit the scene right? http://www.emergencyrigs.net/users%5C14%5C1280_0001273.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? http://www.emergencyrigs.net/users%5C14%5C1280_0001273.jpg Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? |
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I'm still trying to wrap my brain around our department owning a real-deal military Humvee and then possibly selling it to whomever wants to buy it (after seven years, of course).
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I'm still trying to wrap my brain around our department owning a real-deal military Humvee and then possibly selling it to whomever wants to buy it (after seven years, of course). View Quote Honestly, that's long term, you don't need to really worry about that right now. Are the vehicles local to you now? What will transport costs be? Honestly, seems like a pretty good deal. Be aware, those hard tops and turret leak like a sieve, invest in tarps to keep them covered when not in use. |
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Honestly, that's long term, you don't need to really worry about that right now. Are the vehicles local to you now? What will transport costs be? Honestly, seems like a pretty good deal. Be aware, those hard tops and turret leak like a sieve, invest in tarps to keep them covered when not in use. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm still trying to wrap my brain around our department owning a real-deal military Humvee and then possibly selling it to whomever wants to buy it (after seven years, of course). Honestly, that's long term, you don't need to really worry about that right now. Are the vehicles local to you now? What will transport costs be? Honestly, seems like a pretty good deal. Be aware, those hard tops and turret leak like a sieve, invest in tarps to keep them covered when not in use. They were driven to our town this week and are literally five minutes from where I sit. |
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They were driven to our town this week and are literally five minutes from where I sit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm still trying to wrap my brain around our department owning a real-deal military Humvee and then possibly selling it to whomever wants to buy it (after seven years, of course). Honestly, that's long term, you don't need to really worry about that right now. Are the vehicles local to you now? What will transport costs be? Honestly, seems like a pretty good deal. Be aware, those hard tops and turret leak like a sieve, invest in tarps to keep them covered when not in use. They were driven to our town this week and are literally five minutes from where I sit. I can get you the name of the shop that does the paint work in West Haven if you like. honestly, check your local shops, many will donate their time on projects like this if you let them use it for their portfolio and for advertising. Pay materials only, not a bad gig... |
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? http://www.emergencyrigs.net/users%5C14%5C1280_0001273.jpg OH NOES militierization of da FD http://indianafiretrucks.com/pictures/greene/taylor_township/brush-11-ds.jpg FD's have been modding out old military vehicles for a long time. Especially broke ass rural VFDs. I have been eyeballing a pair of them that are for sale up the road. They are deceptively large though. I drove a converted brush truck once and it was a fucking chore. Not a haha fuck around truck |
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HMMWV's cannot necessarily " go anywhere ". I recall in a blizzard here in Maryland some years ago, the Maryland National Guard and their HMMWV's we deployed. However it was soon learned that even the might HMMWV was not match for a lot of snow. Seems as they rode up a non-plowed road, they snow would load up under the undercarriage and bring them to a halt. That is the only time I know of where they had a problem. This is an actual MD NG HMMWV stuck in the snow .... https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4067/4343864807_de754450c5_b.jpg View Quote i pulled several out of ditches with my suburban during the snow here. although i am pretty sure it had more to do with the driver than the vehicle. |
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Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? http://www.emergencyrigs.net/users%5C14%5C1280_0001273.jpg Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? You're laying it on way too thick to be believable. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? http://www.emergencyrigs.net/users%5C14%5C1280_0001273.jpg Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? I have a dollar that says that most of the fire trucks you'll be able to find pictures of started life as an H1 rather than an M-anything. They are no more militarization of fire departments than Arnold's was militarization of future governors, |
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Quoted: I'm still trying to wrap my brain around our department owning a real-deal military Humvee and then possibly selling it to whomever wants to buy it (after seven years, of course). View Quote It's just a big pickup with big tires and a shitty uncomfortable interior. On the flip side, that makes them pretty good at emergency response. |
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You're laying it on way too thick to be believable. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes OP is laying red paint on his trucks of oppression. Bet he wears cargo pants, too. Quoted:
I have a dollar that says that most of the fire trucks you'll be able to find pictures of started life as an H1 rather than an M-anything. They are no more militarization of fire departments than Arnold's was militarization of future governors, Doubt an FD would pay the kind of money an h1 is asking. They're MILITARY trucks, man. MILITARY. Wobblin's have armor on them. Why does a Fire Department need ARMORED GUN TRUCKS? |
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I have been eyeballing a pair of them that are for sale up the road. They are deceptively large though. I drove a converted brush truck once and it was a fucking chore. Not a haha fuck around truck View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? http://www.emergencyrigs.net/users%5C14%5C1280_0001273.jpg OH NOES militierization of da FD http://indianafiretrucks.com/pictures/greene/taylor_township/brush-11-ds.jpg FD's have been modding out old military vehicles for a long time. Especially broke ass rural VFDs. I have been eyeballing a pair of them that are for sale up the road. They are deceptively large though. I drove a converted brush truck once and it was a fucking chore. Not a haha fuck around truck My project truck is turning into an m1026 |
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They're MILITARY trucks, man. MILITARY. Wobblin's have armor on them. Why does a Fire Department need ARMORED GUN TRUCKS? View Quote I never have figured out what kind of armor the early Humvees had. Swiss cheese armor, perhaps? |
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Quoted: I never have figured out what kind of armor the early Humvees had. Swiss cheese armor, perhaps? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Doubt an FD would pay the kind of money an h1 is asking. They're MILITARY trucks, man. MILITARY. Wobblin's have armor on them. Why does a Fire Department need ARMORED GUN TRUCKS? I never have figured out what kind of armor the early Humvees had. Swiss cheese armor, perhaps? |
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Paper ass thin Kevlar. Never meant to stop more than light fragments. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They're MILITARY trucks, man. MILITARY. Wobblin's have armor on them. Why does a Fire Department need ARMORED GUN TRUCKS? I never have figured out what kind of armor the early Humvees had. Swiss cheese armor, perhaps? Only the m1025/26 and m1043/44/45/46 vehicles. Kevlar door body with a steel plate over it and various steel plate embedded in the body of the vehicle. |
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Looked to me like the doors and hood were all made of fiberglass. They were pretty flimsy.
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lots of work but they're suposidly easy to work on humvees (vice MRAPs) make decent police and fire vehicles - any places you need to drive to that are far offroad? not sure where in CT you are but if it's mostly urban/suburban they may not be much use besides for some minor flooding View Quote They are very easy to work on and, yes, the older ones did break a lot <---- former 63B |
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If the recent enacted EPA regulations state that military surplus can no longer be sold to civilians then why to various agencies? Isn't this a direct contradiction to the EPA regulation and once again shows bias against the serfs?
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If the recent enacted EPA regulations state that military surplus can no longer be sold to civilians then why to various agencies? Isn't this a direct contradiction to the EPA regulation and once again shows bias against the serfs? View Quote Its made before the emissions standards |
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I've got a dollar that says most of those were H1 Hummers and not HMMWVs. They were the thing to get for departments that had more money than sense for a while. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Our cabin owner association would jump all over them....
This is what we currently have up on the mountain. We built a community building to house them during the winter, and the nearest Fire dept(1.5hr away) says they are going to give us newer trucks this year. We currently pay for and maintain our trucks, if we get the newer ones, we won't have to do that anymore. </a>IMG_20140810_135126_519 by guns762, on Flickr" /> </a>IMG_20140810_135701_586 by guns762, on Flickr" /> |
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Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? http://www.emergencyrigs.net/users%5C14%5C1280_0001273.jpg Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? umm fire |
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Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? http://www.emergencyrigs.net/users%5C14%5C1280_0001273.jpg Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? The fire threat matrix is ever evolving. Shifts in the way fire spreads and recruits as well as the possibility for fire cells to infiltrate our borders and pop up years later make these vehicles necessary. |
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OP is laying red paint on his trucks of oppression. Bet he wears cargo pants, too. Doubt an FD would pay the kind of money an h1 is asking. They're MILITARY trucks, man. MILITARY. Wobblin's have armor on them. Why does a Fire Department need ARMORED GUN TRUCKS? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have a dollar that says that most of the fire trucks you'll be able to find pictures of started life as an H1 rather than an M-anything. They are no more militarization of fire departments than Arnold's was militarization of future governors, Doubt an FD would pay the kind of money an h1 is asking. They're MILITARY trucks, man. MILITARY. Wobblin's have armor on them. Why does a Fire Department need ARMORED GUN TRUCKS? Us cops have enlisted their help wielding the iron boot of oppression |
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Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? http://www.emergencyrigs.net/users%5C14%5C1280_0001273.jpg Fully aware. They don't need military trucks to do their job. Who are they preparing to fight? I'm not sold on the idea, A) because we don't really have a need for one (even though it's free), |
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Unless it's obviously prohibitive (crypto devices etc...) it should all be available for sale to the public.
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I have a dollar that says that most of the fire trucks you'll be able to find pictures of started life as an H1 rather than an M-anything. They are no more militarization of fire departments than Arnold's was militarization of future governors, Doubt an FD would pay the kind of money an h1 is asking. They're MILITARY trucks, man. MILITARY. Wobblin's have armor on them. Why does a Fire Department need ARMORED GUN TRUCKS? Us cops have enlisted their help wielding the iron boot of oppression Enlisted? I think they're just jealous of the badge. Ultimate badge bunnies...fire fighters. |
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? View Quote Fire departments can put vehicles like this to excellent use. IMO, better than police departments in many ways. They make for great disaster response vehicles, or rescue vehicles for rough terrain. In fact, I have witnessed this first hand. In the April 27 Tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, our area was one of the hardest hit, and emergency crews could not reach our area for several hours. Regular rescue vehicles had no way of making it into our area. Hell, a logging company ended up helping clear roads with a grapple skidder. After a few hours, with help from us clearing roads with personal equipment, a FD crew was able to make their way into our area using a Humvee modified for rescue operations. And this was at roughly 10 PM... The tornado hit us around 4 or so... So yes, FD's have a very legitimate use for vehicles like this. |
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Fire departments can put vehicles like this to excellent use. IMO, better than police departments in many ways. They make for great disaster response vehicles, or rescue vehicles for rough terrain. In fact, I have witnessed this first hand. In the April 27 Tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, our area was one of the hardest hit, and emergency crews could not reach our area for several hours. Regular rescue vehicles had no way of making it into our area. Hell, a logging company ended up helping clear roads with a grapple skidder. After a few hours, with help from us clearing roads with personal equipment, a FD crew was able to make their way into our area using a Humvee modified for rescue operations. And this was at roughly 10 PM... The tornado hit us around 4 or so... So yes, FD's have a very legitimate use for vehicles like this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? Fire departments can put vehicles like this to excellent use. IMO, better than police departments in many ways. They make for great disaster response vehicles, or rescue vehicles for rough terrain. In fact, I have witnessed this first hand. In the April 27 Tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, our area was one of the hardest hit, and emergency crews could not reach our area for several hours. Regular rescue vehicles had no way of making it into our area. Hell, a logging company ended up helping clear roads with a grapple skidder. After a few hours, with help from us clearing roads with personal equipment, a FD crew was able to make their way into our area using a Humvee modified for rescue operations. And this was at roughly 10 PM... The tornado hit us around 4 or so... So yes, FD's have a very legitimate use for vehicles like this. The police here do as much disaster response and rescue as the fd. |
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Fire departments can put vehicles like this to excellent use. IMO, better than police departments in many ways. They make for great disaster response vehicles, or rescue vehicles for rough terrain. In fact, I have witnessed this first hand. In the April 27 Tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, our area was one of the hardest hit, and emergency crews could not reach our area for several hours. Regular rescue vehicles had no way of making it into our area. Hell, a logging company ended up helping clear roads with a grapple skidder. After a few hours, with help from us clearing roads with personal equipment, a FD crew was able to make their way into our area using a Humvee modified for rescue operations. And this was at roughly 10 PM... The tornado hit us around 4 or so... So yes, FD's have a very legitimate use for vehicles like this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? Fire departments can put vehicles like this to excellent use. IMO, better than police departments in many ways. They make for great disaster response vehicles, or rescue vehicles for rough terrain. In fact, I have witnessed this first hand. In the April 27 Tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, our area was one of the hardest hit, and emergency crews could not reach our area for several hours. Regular rescue vehicles had no way of making it into our area. Hell, a logging company ended up helping clear roads with a grapple skidder. After a few hours, with help from us clearing roads with personal equipment, a FD crew was able to make their way into our area using a Humvee modified for rescue operations. And this was at roughly 10 PM... The tornado hit us around 4 or so... So yes, FD's have a very legitimate use for vehicles like this. So go and buy a non-scary civilian truck and stop trying to play soldier. It's bad for cops and it should be bad for firemen too! |
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So go and buy a non-scary civilian truck and stop trying to play soldier. It's bad for cops and it should be bad for firemen too! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? Fire departments can put vehicles like this to excellent use. IMO, better than police departments in many ways. They make for great disaster response vehicles, or rescue vehicles for rough terrain. In fact, I have witnessed this first hand. In the April 27 Tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, our area was one of the hardest hit, and emergency crews could not reach our area for several hours. Regular rescue vehicles had no way of making it into our area. Hell, a logging company ended up helping clear roads with a grapple skidder. After a few hours, with help from us clearing roads with personal equipment, a FD crew was able to make their way into our area using a Humvee modified for rescue operations. And this was at roughly 10 PM... The tornado hit us around 4 or so... So yes, FD's have a very legitimate use for vehicles like this. So go and buy a non-scary civilian truck and stop trying to play soldier. It's bad for cops and it should be bad for firemen too! Stop liking what I don't like? |
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? Fire departments can put vehicles like this to excellent use. IMO, better than police departments in many ways. They make for great disaster response vehicles, or rescue vehicles for rough terrain. In fact, I have witnessed this first hand. In the April 27 Tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, our area was one of the hardest hit, and emergency crews could not reach our area for several hours. Regular rescue vehicles had no way of making it into our area. Hell, a logging company ended up helping clear roads with a grapple skidder. After a few hours, with help from us clearing roads with personal equipment, a FD crew was able to make their way into our area using a Humvee modified for rescue operations. And this was at roughly 10 PM... The tornado hit us around 4 or so... So yes, FD's have a very legitimate use for vehicles like this. The police here do as much disaster response and rescue as the fd. I understand that but we can't leave any golden goose uncooked. |
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? Fire departments can put vehicles like this to excellent use. IMO, better than police departments in many ways. They make for great disaster response vehicles, or rescue vehicles for rough terrain. In fact, I have witnessed this first hand. In the April 27 Tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, our area was one of the hardest hit, and emergency crews could not reach our area for several hours. Regular rescue vehicles had no way of making it into our area. Hell, a logging company ended up helping clear roads with a grapple skidder. After a few hours, with help from us clearing roads with personal equipment, a FD crew was able to make their way into our area using a Humvee modified for rescue operations. And this was at roughly 10 PM... The tornado hit us around 4 or so... So yes, FD's have a very legitimate use for vehicles like this. The police here do as much disaster response and rescue as the fd. Same here. We are normally on scene long before the FD |
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So go and buy a non-scary civilian truck and stop trying to play soldier. It's bad for cops and it should be bad for firemen too! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why does an FD want a military truck? Are they trying to play soldier? Fire departments can put vehicles like this to excellent use. IMO, better than police departments in many ways. They make for great disaster response vehicles, or rescue vehicles for rough terrain. In fact, I have witnessed this first hand. In the April 27 Tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, our area was one of the hardest hit, and emergency crews could not reach our area for several hours. Regular rescue vehicles had no way of making it into our area. Hell, a logging company ended up helping clear roads with a grapple skidder. After a few hours, with help from us clearing roads with personal equipment, a FD crew was able to make their way into our area using a Humvee modified for rescue operations. And this was at roughly 10 PM... The tornado hit us around 4 or so... So yes, FD's have a very legitimate use for vehicles like this. So go and buy a non-scary civilian truck and stop trying to play soldier. It's bad for cops and it should be bad for firemen too! SO I have a 60K budget for the year. I can do without or get something for free. The choice is was easy for me |
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SO I have a 60K budget for the year. I can do without or get something for free someone else can pay for it. The choice is was easy for me Small fix. I'm supposed to feel bad about a vehicle given to me by the feds that cost them $127 back in 1989 then spent $310 in tax payer money to get it in service? Am I missing something? |
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Quoted: Guess what I did this afternoon.... http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/FromInside.JPG And where I went.... http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/InBay.JPG ETA: View Quote those are kinda fun to drive aren't they? |
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Quoted: Well, at least for the looks I got from other drivers. BTW, the transfer case shifter shows "HL H N L." What's HL and H? Obviously it's high range, but is one 4x4 and not the other or something? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: those are kinda fun to drive aren't they? Well, at least for the looks I got from other drivers. BTW, the transfer case shifter shows "HL H N L." What's HL and H? Obviously it's high range, but is one 4x4 and not the other or something? Eta for more info. The HMMWV transfer case has the following gear ranges. HL = High Lock - Used on hard surfaces when equal torque is needed at all wheels. Turn radius is affected greatly. Can be used for highway travel. DO NOT USE IN REVERSE. Damage to the transfer will happen. H = High - Used in foward and reverse. Used for normal conditions. Torque management is 30% front/70% rear to allow full function of the steering system without damage to the CV joints. |
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I'd love a Humvee for a grass fire rig, put a remote nozzle on the front, 500 gallons in the back with a 20hp diesel pump, it would kill a lot of grass fires. Pricing a 4wd pickup grass rig, came in at about $120,000.
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