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Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:34:05 PM EDT
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It's not cheating if you have her hold her butt open and you jerk off into it.
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Duly noted.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:34:16 PM EDT
[#2]
I've been cheated on before - the pain is horrendous.



Would never cheat on my wife. Not for anything in the world.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:35:29 PM EDT
[#3]
Fuck cheaters.

Figuratively.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:35:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Nope.  Never again.

I've lost my shit a couple of times and thought I'd be sneaky.  

You know how that worked out?

My wife and I are separated.  I have my 17 month old son 2-3 days a week.  My wife doesn't trust me any further than she can throw the moon, and I don't blame her.  

A short time of pleasure isn't worth losing the kind of trust a proper broad gives a man when she commits to a real relationship with him.  Trust is a bitch, once it is gone, it is gone.  The initial level of "anything you say is damn near gospel" will *never* come back.  I mean that.  Prior to me being a shitbag, my wife and I could watch porn together or separately, make lewd comments about others, and I could go to strip joints without a single question.  After the first affair, she felt that even porn was me stepping outside our marriage.

When you do something like OP's hypothetical question, a woman will somehow find out.  And, when she does, the biggest destruction of the relationship will be the combination of not trusting you and self doubt.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:36:05 PM EDT
[#5]
No. I'd rather leave her than cheat on her.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:36:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Absolutely not. Ever. No matter the circumstances.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:38:20 PM EDT
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Good man.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:38:33 PM EDT
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yes, thank you for the clarification.  I will be sure to remember this in the future.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:38:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.  Why is that a lost concept these days?  Sheesh.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:43:36 PM EDT
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Honor as is justice, and karma all exist to rationalize the irrational, and codify the fears that haunt honorable people. Modern day life has removed the sting of disreputable acts and for the most part being a grade A shithead comes with almost no resistance among society, as-long as you can keep it below felonious you are a king among peers, free to ransack peoples lives at will. Move to a different state.... hell a different county and your back to square one.


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If you wore your deeds on a sleeve would anyone even look into your eyes? If people treated you like you treat others would your life be anything?

Karma is a joke and doesn't exist, honor and justice are a faded standard that hasn't been followed in eons.




If you can't be honest to others, if you can't be open to your intentions, if you live to pray on people... Society will still give you rights and treat you like a human being.




I however will not




 
Great post.




You fucks can talk all the shit you want, fact is I'm a better man than most. I say this with no ego whatsoever, I was taught by the most honorable man I've ever known and live every day with him on my mind. In fact I tend to avoid going beyond small talk with most people because the average man doesn't conduct himself very respectably and I'd rather not know about it.




At 36 I'm a bit stuck in my ways, namely from one girl to the next. The lady I'm currently with has me questioning my habits and after so long it's a quite an adjustment to make. Basically I'm just venting/coping with my decision here, to knock it all off and stick with just one woman.






Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:43:46 PM EDT
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I recently had the opportunity to cheat on my SO. I passed.

I'll tell you what, when my SO returned from her trip I was never so glad to see her. I thought about it long and hard, and I've cheated on other women in the past but I've been 100% faithful to my SO and I just couldn't do it. I *actually* love her. It would change things if I did it.

If you love the person you are with, don't do it. It can seem like a good idea or that you can get away with it... but if you take that plunge it will change you. It'll change subtle things that could end up ruining things for you.

Only cheat if you are okay with being cheated on. Don't betray the people you love.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:44:25 PM EDT
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Say you're in a committed relationship and you meet a chick you really want to smash.

She wants to bone too, and there's more than just a physical attraction going on. There's chemistry, making her infinitely sexier, but not quite enough to bounce on your chick.

Here's the kicker.. your S.O. will NOT find out. She's out of town, loves and trusts you completely.


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What if she is out of town chasing cock and you don't know it? Is that okay?
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:45:06 PM EDT
[#13]
Never! I'm better than that.
Hessian-1
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:45:27 PM EDT
[#14]
OP,

dude, you even have to ask? The fact you're considering it makes you a real winner...[rollseyes]

Imagine the tears in her eyes when she finds out, they ALWAYS find out somehow.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:46:06 PM EDT
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I've been cheated on before - the pain is horrendous.

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This for the WIN
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:46:40 PM EDT
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  Good man.
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Absolutely not. Ever. No matter the circumstances.

  Good man.

And I'm drunk, too! Damn, I must love her.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:47:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Not a chance. I'm better than that.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:47:34 PM EDT
[#18]
The amount of people who answered "yes" bothers me.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:48:55 PM EDT
[#19]
Ask yourself, how would you feel if she did it to you. That's your answer.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:54:22 PM EDT
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If you wore your deeds on a sleeve would anyone even look into your eyes? If people treated you like you treat others would your life be anything?
Karma is a joke and doesn't exist, honor and justice are a faded standard that hasn't been followed in eons.

If you can't be honest to others, if you can't be open to your intentions, if you live to pray on people... Society will still give you rights and treat you like a human being.

I however will not

  Great post.

You fucks can talk all the shit you want, fact is I'm a better man than most. I say this with no ego whatsoever, I was taught by the most honorable man I've ever known and live every day with him on my mind. In fact I tend to avoid going beyond small talk with most people because the average man doesn't conduct himself very respectably and I'd rather not know about it.

At 36 I'm a bit stuck in my ways, namely from one girl to the next. The lady I'm currently with has me questioning my habits and after so long it's a quite an adjustment to make. Basically I'm just venting/coping with my decision here, to knock it all off and stick with just one woman.


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Honor as is justice, and karma all exist to rationalize the irrational, and codify the fears that haunt honorable people. Modern day life has removed the sting of disreputable acts and for the most part being a grade A shithead comes with almost no resistance among society, as-long as you can keep it below felonious you are a king among peers, free to ransack peoples lives at will. Move to a different state.... hell a different county and your back to square one.
If you wore your deeds on a sleeve would anyone even look into your eyes? If people treated you like you treat others would your life be anything?
Karma is a joke and doesn't exist, honor and justice are a faded standard that hasn't been followed in eons.

If you can't be honest to others, if you can't be open to your intentions, if you live to pray on people... Society will still give you rights and treat you like a human being.

I however will not

  Great post.

You fucks can talk all the shit you want, fact is I'm a better man than most. I say this with no ego whatsoever, I was taught by the most honorable man I've ever known and live every day with him on my mind. In fact I tend to avoid going beyond small talk with most people because the average man doesn't conduct himself very respectably and I'd rather not know about it.

At 36 I'm a bit stuck in my ways, namely from one girl to the next. The lady I'm currently with has me questioning my habits and after so long it's a quite an adjustment to make. Basically I'm just venting/coping with my decision here, to knock it all off and stick with just one woman.




That's weird.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:55:58 PM EDT
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That's weird.
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Honor as is justice, and karma all exist to rationalize the irrational, and codify the fears that haunt honorable people. Modern day life has removed the sting of disreputable acts and for the most part being a grade A shithead comes with almost no resistance among society, as-long as you can keep it below felonious you are a king among peers, free to ransack peoples lives at will. Move to a different state.... hell a different county and your back to square one.

If you wore your deeds on a sleeve would anyone even look into your eyes? If people treated you like you treat others would your life be anything?

Karma is a joke and doesn't exist, honor and justice are a faded standard that hasn't been followed in eons.



If you can't be honest to others, if you can't be open to your intentions, if you live to pray on people... Society will still give you rights and treat you like a human being.



I however will not



  Great post.



You fucks can talk all the shit you want, fact is I'm a better man than most. I say this with no ego whatsoever, I was taught by the most honorable man I've ever known and live every day with him on my mind. In fact I tend to avoid going beyond small talk with most people because the average man doesn't conduct himself very respectably and I'd rather not know about it.



At 36 I'm a bit stuck in my ways, namely from one girl to the next. The lady I'm currently with has me questioning my habits and after so long it's a quite an adjustment to make. Basically I'm just venting/coping with my decision here, to knock it all off and stick with just one woman.









That's weird.




 



Don't care
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:00:42 PM EDT
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I travel for work all over the country, have had opportunities, ones where NO ONE would ever find out unless I told them. There are lines you don't cross, for me that is one of them.

If you have ever been cheated on, it screws up all kinds of things, trust, you ability to judge a person's character, your ability to read their feelings, intentions, towards you etc. Being on the shit side of that scale, I would never willing put someone I care about on the other side of it.

Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:04:36 PM EDT
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What would you call non-sexual cheating? The Bill Clinton definition?

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Not to sound like a prude, but cheating is, even if it's non-sexual, the worst form of betrayal that one human can do to another.




What would you call non-sexual cheating? The Bill Clinton definition?

Carrying on an intimate, flirtatious relationship with another woman behind your wife's or husband's back.  Otherwise put, doing something you don't want to be caught doing and if you were caught, might end your relationship with your spouse.  You don't have to stick your dick in a hole to be cheating.  

 
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:04:50 PM EDT
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My point of view is from a 50 year old, non religious man in a 20 year marriage. Anyone who can't be faithful to their family (spouse, children) can not be trusted in any aspect of their lives. My opinion is based on nearly 30 years of working among men who cheat on their wives. I don't, and wouldn't trust a single one of them. They will insist very publicly, and as often as possible that they are honest, trustworthy men. That they are of good moral character. They consistently prove by their deeds, that my lack of trust is prudent.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:05:33 PM EDT
[#25]
Nope.  It's just not worth it.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:11:08 PM EDT
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Honor as is justice, and karma all exist to rationalize the irrational, and codify the fears that haunt honorable people. Modern day life has removed the sting of disreputable acts and for the most part being a grade A shithead comes with almost no resistance among society, as-long as you can keep it below felonious you are a king among peers, free to ransack peoples lives at will. Move to a different state.... hell a different county and your back to square one.
If you wore your deeds on a sleeve would anyone even look into your eyes? If people treated you like you treat others would your life be anything?
Karma is a joke and doesn't exist, honor and justice are a faded standard that hasn't been followed in eons.

If you can't be honest to others, if you can't be open to your intentions, if you live to pray on people... Society will still give you rights and treat you like a human being.

I however will not

  Great post.

You fucks can talk all the shit you want, fact is I'm a better man than most. I say this with no ego whatsoever, I was taught by the most honorable man I've ever known and live every day with him on my mind. In fact I tend to avoid going beyond small talk with most people because the average man doesn't conduct himself very respectably and I'd rather not know about it.

At 36 I'm a bit stuck in my ways, namely from one girl to the next. The lady I'm currently with has me questioning my habits and after so long it's a quite an adjustment to make. Basically I'm just venting/coping with my decision here, to knock it all off and stick with just one woman.




That's weird.


That an arfcommer is anti-social?
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:18:56 PM EDT
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Every man has an uncontrollable desire to bone every attractive female you come into contact with - it's only natural - we're animals.



Suppressing that desire is not easy, but believe me, it's not worth all the money in the world (cheating).
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:19:20 PM EDT
[#28]
Nope. Fuck nope.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:24:32 PM EDT
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I have had a few chances to cheat but always said no. But there was this one girl that was a 10 and and we got along great bad things crossed my mind but in the end the right call was easy and I am still with my wife. Even if she didnot find out I am not sure I can live with it anyway. A lot of people call me asshole or dick but I am just honest and to the point it's hard for me to hide things.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:26:06 PM EDT
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Carrying on an intimate, flirtatious relationship with another woman behind your wife's or husband's back.  Otherwise put, doing something you don't want to be caught doing and if you were caught, might end your relationship with your spouse.  You don't have to stick your dick in a hole to be cheating.    
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Not to sound like a prude, but cheating is, even if it's non-sexual, the worst form of betrayal that one human can do to another.


What would you call non-sexual cheating? The Bill Clinton definition?
Carrying on an intimate, flirtatious relationship with another woman behind your wife's or husband's back.  Otherwise put, doing something you don't want to be caught doing and if you were caught, might end your relationship with your spouse.  You don't have to stick your dick in a hole to be cheating.    


Otherwise called emotional infidelity, where the relationship isn't sexual, but it's still a relationship.

Never put yourself in a situation where even a suggestion of impropriety appears.  If you have to start the conversation with your significant other with "Honey, I can explain," you're already doing it wrong.

For example:  unless it's absolutely necessary for work, I won't go anywhere alone with a woman not my wife. Not worth the risk of some busybody starting a rumor.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:30:52 PM EDT
[#31]
YOLO
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:33:53 PM EDT
[#32]
After the Losd thread, I'm skeptical.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:43:53 PM EDT
[#33]
I had that exact situation arise when I was younger.  I cheated on my gf, and she never found out about it.  I, however, did know about it and I felt awful.  I know one thing, I'll never do it again, because it hurts too much.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:46:44 PM EDT
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How is this even a question?

Of fucking course not. You made a commitment to your S.O. If you think you've found something better and/or you're not happy, just leave. It'll hurt the other party a lot less than if they found out you cheated on them.

I'll never understand why honor is no longer a valued trait.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:51:31 PM EDT
[#35]
No.

15% scum sucking douche bags.
ARF delivers.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:56:31 PM EDT
[#36]
My ex wife was fucking her uncles friend while the aunt and uncle covered for her. I did not vote but where I stand is easy to figure out
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:57:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Nope, because I will know I did it.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:58:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Integrity, 15% of ARFCOM'ers lack it.

I do not FO.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:00:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:01:29 PM EDT
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Fidelity is outdated, over-rated, and over-utilized for the most part. What gets me is that its used to destroy a union when it has weathered storms far worse. Or it was a shit relationship to begin with. I really don't see it as the glue that holds our society together. When the dipshits that rant about how 'pure' their thoughts and actions are, they can usually be found parked in front of the TV ogling their favorite onscreen hotness, or surfing porno like its going out of style.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:03:11 PM EDT
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Say you're in a committed relationship and you meet a chick you really want to smash.

She wants to bone too, and there's more than just a physical attraction going on. There's chemistry, making her infinitely sexier, but not quite enough to bounce on your chick.

Here's the kicker.. your S.O. will NOT find out. She's out of town, loves and trusts you completely.


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Well of course that makes it OK. I mean why wouldn't you want to screw around on someone who "loves and trusts you completely."
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:05:06 PM EDT
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Sex is just sex, a momentary physical thing.  Your integrity and character last forever.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:06:05 PM EDT
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I travel for work all over the country, have had opportunities, ones where NO ONE would ever find out unless I told them. There are lines you don't cross, for me that is one of them.

If you have ever been cheated on, it screws up all kinds of things, trust, you ability to judge a person's character, your ability to read their feelings, intentions, towards you etc. Being on the shit side of that scale, I would never willing put someone I care about on the other side of it.

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Yep, my first real relationship ended because of that. I was with her for 3 years and she fucked like eight other dudes. (Probably more like five, really.)

And according to my stepdad, who cheated on an ex. Cheating on an ex makes you super fucking paranoid that everybody's going to cheat on you.

Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:07:26 PM EDT
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Are you cool with your wife banging random NBA players as long as she thinks you won't find out?

If you want to fuck around, don't get married.  Just be upfront with how you are.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:08:46 PM EDT
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Are you cool with your wife banging random NBA players as long as she thinks you won't find out?



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I'm not married, but a solid no on the hypothetical NBA thing
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:09:23 PM EDT
[#46]
No. I instead fap furiously.

if I had a SO...

I'm 21, M, from WV. Who is single?
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:09:50 PM EDT
[#47]
no way. and you will end up telling on yourself because you know you were wrong .
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:10:20 PM EDT
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yeah your a team member too. WTF dura?



 
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:11:29 PM EDT
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I probably would, so I probably won't




Hypothetically speaking
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:15:59 PM EDT
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NO.  It doesn't matter that she wouldn't find out.  It would degrade me as a person.  I want to be the best I can be not the worst.  I wouldn't be able to watch a movie with a loving relationship like Rocky for example knowing what a shitty person I am.
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