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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:47:43 AM EDT
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Q: How many feminists does it take to change a lighbulb? A: That's not funny. 
I hear you, but it sucks to see idiots praised for shit talking a good thing. Anti-Misandrism is peachy, but this thread plays into the Misogynist hand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just amused by all manner of sign-holding " hashtag activism", especially when parodying it upsets humorless zealots, and as I mentioned before it's an excuse to post pictures of attractive women. This is a parody of the thousands of "I need feminism because X" posts which are uniformly pretty silly. Q: How many feminists does it take to change a lighbulb? A: That's not funny.
I hear you, but it sucks to see idiots praised for shit talking a good thing. Anti-Misandrism is peachy, but this thread plays into the Misogynist hand. Although I posted the racy picture before, I somewhat agree with you. All in all, we are a predominantly male forum, in which we talk about women, whether they are holding signs or not. I am sure the same would happen the other way around. The great thing about exploiting it just proves that signs do nothing. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:48:50 AM EDT
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This thread has made me laugh a few times and therefore, it is currently my favorite thread. Please continue. 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:50:39 AM EDT
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The problem modern feminism has, is that many of its adherents outwardly seem that they want to BE men. Naturally, normal women are not interested in being a man, nor shouldering men's responsibilities. The movement will gradually die a withering death, left to be tended only by the most self-loathing of the female gender. I totally agree with this. Militant feminists want to "out-men" the men. How lame (and WEIRD!!!) is that??? Why not embrace your FEMININITY if you're seeming focus in life seems to be all about your damn gender identity??? I actually have more respect for women who've recognized and used the tools they were given to get whatever they wanted than someone in my face demanding my respect. Seriously... for all of the slagging that pinups, models, etc have taken for being brain-dead... which group is really more brain-dead and which group of women got more of what they wanted out of life? I'm supposed to join the chorus of the feminista in saying that women shouldn't have to use their physical appearance to get things that they want. But that's NOT reality. We ALL have to use the tools we are given to achieve success in life. For some it's looks. For others, it's brains. For the fortunate (and hard-working), it's looks AND brains (male or female). Human beings have certain traits that attract other humans, or repulse them. The minute someone gets in my face and demands that I respect them simply because they're "speshul"... my instinctual inclination is NOT one of respect. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:51:06 AM EDT
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The problem with a movement like "feminism" is that there's no baseline for what it "really" is. In most religions (and feminism is definitely a religious movement) you just refer back to a centralized source document(s). Sure there'll be disputes about interpretations etc but plenty of bedrock agreement on basic orthodoxy. A movement like feminism has nothing comparable. It's literally like a religion where one person who claims to be a member is teaching zen Buddhism and another is teaching Hasidic Judaism and a third Wahabbist Islam, and they're all equally deserving of the title. Also, if you want some truly hilarious reading check out radfems. This one blog is a goldmine http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34956007.jpg So is it undefinable or definitely a religion? OK, that's my last one. White knighting gender-equality is hungry work and I need to leave my command center for more cheetos. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:55:43 AM EDT
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I will never understand why people get upset about sexual dimorphism.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:55:55 AM EDT
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The problem with a movement like "feminism" is that there's no baseline for what it "really" is. In most religions (and feminism is definitely a religious movement) you just refer back to a centralized source document(s). Sure there'll be disputes about interpretations etc but plenty of bedrock agreement on basic orthodoxy. A movement like feminism has nothing comparable. It's literally like a religion where one person who claims to be a member is teaching zen Buddhism and another is teaching Hasidic Judaism and a third Wahabbist Islam, and they're all equally deserving of the title. Also, if you want some truly hilarious reading check out radfems. This one blog is a goldmine http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34956007.jpg holy shit, that was some concentrated stupidity on that site 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:56:07 AM EDT
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Q: How many feminists does it take to change a lighbulb? A: That's not funny.
I hear you, but it sucks to see idiots praised for shit talking a good thing. Anti-Misandrism is peachy, but this thread plays into the Misogynist hand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just amused by all manner of sign-holding " hashtag activism", especially when parodying it upsets humorless zealots, and as I mentioned before it's an excuse to post pictures of attractive women. This is a parody of the thousands of "I need feminism because X" posts which are uniformly pretty silly. Q: How many feminists does it take to change a lighbulb? A: That's not funny.
I hear you, but it sucks to see idiots praised for shit talking a good thing. Anti-Misandrism is peachy, but this thread plays into the Misogynist hand. I disagree. This thread plays to people who are sick of all of the so-called "equality" being forced on a would-be FREE society these days. It stopped being about equality long ago. It's now more about sameness, or conversely, special treatment than it is a true equality amongst the races, sexes, etc. How 'bout we just live in the equal-opportunity utopia that the left has claimed to dream-of for so long? Can't. Because they've been lying about what they really wanted all along. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:56:22 AM EDT
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I think you know exactly what I was saying. Attempts to refute stereotypes about feminism, self describes as stereotypical feminist. It's ironic and humorous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course not, but what are you trying to say? I think you know exactly what I was saying. Attempts to refute stereotypes about feminism, self describes as stereotypical feminist. It's ironic and humorous. You do know it's all in good humor, right? Snow is tiny and beautiful and can probably outshoot 90% of this forum. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:57:12 AM EDT
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Modern Feminism is about as anti-female as you can get. They want to discard all that makes them women and be treated like a man. Yup. Cliff's Notes version of what I posted. They appear to loathe that which they claim to champion. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:58:03 AM EDT
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You do know it's all in good humor, right? Snow is tiny and beautiful and can probably outshoot 90% of this forum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course not, but what are you trying to say? I think you know exactly what I was saying. Attempts to refute stereotypes about feminism, self describes as stereotypical feminist. It's ironic and humorous. You do know it's all in good humor, right? Snow is tiny and beautiful and can probably outshoot 90% of this forum. That's how she fights the patriarchy. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:58:04 AM EDT
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I think you know exactly what I was saying. Attempts to refute stereotypes about feminism, self describes as stereotypical feminist. It's ironic and humorous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course not, but what are you trying to say? I think you know exactly what I was saying. Attempts to refute stereotypes about feminism, self describes as stereotypical feminist. It's ironic and humorous. It would be funny, if I'd said that feminists weren't fat or promiscuous. I was denying that feminism, aside from gender feminism, was about misandry. I don't self-describe as misandrist. In fact, if you do some reasearch, you'll find I put the penis on a pedestal. 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:59:27 AM EDT
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So is it undefinable or definitely a religion? OK, that's my last one. White knighting gender-equality is hungry work and I need to leave my command center for more cheetos. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The problem with a movement like "feminism" is that there's no baseline for what it "really" is. In most religions (and feminism is definitely a religious movement) you just refer back to a centralized source document(s). Sure there'll be disputes about interpretations etc but plenty of bedrock agreement on basic orthodoxy. A movement like feminism has nothing comparable. It's literally like a religion where one person who claims to be a member is teaching zen Buddhism and another is teaching Hasidic Judaism and a third Wahabbist Islam, and they're all equally deserving of the title. Also, if you want some truly hilarious reading check out radfems. This one blog is a goldmine http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34956007.jpg So is it undefinable or definitely a religion? OK, that's my last one. White knighting gender-equality is hungry work and I need to leave my command center for more cheetos. Never said it was undefinable, I said there was no "one true definitive version." It's religious movement, but one without a central orthodoxy. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:59:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just amused by all manner of sign-holding " hashtag activism" ... Clearly.   |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:59:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryCould you redo it on a blank white piece of paper? it will make it easier and the end result will look better. thanks |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:00:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:00:34 PM EDT
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You do know it's all in good humor, right? Snow is tiny and beautiful and can probably outshoot 90% of this forum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course not, but what are you trying to say? I think you know exactly what I was saying. Attempts to refute stereotypes about feminism, self describes as stereotypical feminist. It's ironic and humorous. You do know it's all in good humor, right? Snow is tiny and beautiful and can probably outshoot 90% of this forum. Can she write her name in the snow? 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:01:05 PM EDT
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You do know it's all in good humor, right? Snow is tiny and beautiful and can probably outshoot 90% of this forum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course not, but what are you trying to say? I think you know exactly what I was saying. Attempts to refute stereotypes about feminism, self describes as stereotypical feminist. It's ironic and humorous. You do know it's all in good humor, right? Snow is tiny and beautiful and can probably outshoot 90% of this forum. I don't know anything about her, and it wasn't intended as a personal attack. It's just a funny juxtaposition. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:06:54 PM EDT
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I disagree. This thread plays to people who are sick of all of the so-called "equality" being forced on a would-be FREE society these days. It stopped being about equality long ago. It's now more about sameness, or conversely, special treatment than it is a true equality amongst the races, sexes, etc. How 'bout we just live in the equal-opportunity utopia that the left has claimed to dream-of for so long? Can't. Because they've been lying about what they really wanted all along. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just amused by all manner of sign-holding " hashtag activism", especially when parodying it upsets humorless zealots, and as I mentioned before it's an excuse to post pictures of attractive women. This is a parody of the thousands of "I need feminism because X" posts which are uniformly pretty silly. Q: How many feminists does it take to change a lighbulb? A: That's not funny.
I hear you, but it sucks to see idiots praised for shit talking a good thing. Anti-Misandrism is peachy, but this thread plays into the Misogynist hand. I disagree. This thread plays to people who are sick of all of the so-called "equality" being forced on a would-be FREE society these days. It stopped being about equality long ago. It's now more about sameness, or conversely, special treatment than it is a true equality amongst the races, sexes, etc. How 'bout we just live in the equal-opportunity utopia that the left has claimed to dream-of for so long? Can't. Because they've been lying about what they really wanted all along. Don't let them change the definition of equality. Equality is a good thing. Whiny misandrists and black racists don't get to steal equality from us just because they're louder than we are. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:08:01 PM EDT
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I will never understand why people get upset about sexual dimorphism. Me either. I like midgets. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:08:08 PM EDT
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Never said it was undefinable, I said there was no "one true definitive version." It's religious movement, but one without a central orthodoxy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The problem with a movement like "feminism" is that there's no baseline for what it "really" is. In most religions (and feminism is definitely a religious movement) you just refer back to a centralized source document(s). Sure there'll be disputes about interpretations etc but plenty of bedrock agreement on basic orthodoxy. A movement like feminism has nothing comparable. It's literally like a religion where one person who claims to be a member is teaching zen Buddhism and another is teaching Hasidic Judaism and a third Wahabbist Islam, and they're all equally deserving of the title. Also, if you want some truly hilarious reading check out radfems. This one blog is a goldmine http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34956007.jpg So is it undefinable or definitely a religion? OK, that's my last one. White knighting gender-equality is hungry work and I need to leave my command center for more cheetos. Never said it was undefinable, I said there was no "one true definitive version." It's religious movement, but one without a central orthodoxy. It's not a religious movement any more than any other philosophical or political ideology. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:09:29 PM EDT
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I don't know anything about her, and it wasn't intended as a personal attack. It's just a funny juxtaposition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course not, but what are you trying to say? I think you know exactly what I was saying. Attempts to refute stereotypes about feminism, self describes as stereotypical feminist. It's ironic and humorous. You do know it's all in good humor, right? Snow is tiny and beautiful and can probably outshoot 90% of this forum. I don't know anything about her, and it wasn't intended as a personal attack. It's just a funny juxtaposition. XCR is just being nice. That's me in my avatar. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:13:16 PM EDT
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It's not a religious movement any more than any other philosophical or political ideology. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The problem with a movement like "feminism" is that there's no baseline for what it "really" is. In most religions (and feminism is definitely a religious movement) you just refer back to a centralized source document(s). Sure there'll be disputes about interpretations etc but plenty of bedrock agreement on basic orthodoxy. A movement like feminism has nothing comparable. It's literally like a religion where one person who claims to be a member is teaching zen Buddhism and another is teaching Hasidic Judaism and a third Wahabbist Islam, and they're all equally deserving of the title. Also, if you want some truly hilarious reading check out radfems. This one blog is a goldmine http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34956007.jpg So is it undefinable or definitely a religion? OK, that's my last one. White knighting gender-equality is hungry work and I need to leave my command center for more cheetos. Never said it was undefinable, I said there was no "one true definitive version." It's religious movement, but one without a central orthodoxy. It's not a religious movement any more than any other philosophical or political ideology. like most civil rights causes, it was a good thing that was hi-jacked by the authoritarian left. it has been ruined by them like everything else they control |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:47:08 PM EDT
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It would be funny, if I'd said that feminists weren't fat or promiscuous. I was denying that feminism, aside from gender feminism, was about misandry. I don't self-describe as misandrist. In fact, if you do some reasearch, you'll find I put the penis on a pedestal.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:50:28 PM EDT
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Wingnut, it's kind of like saying you don't like Skinheads because racism is wrong.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:51:09 PM EDT
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One of my biggest complaints against "feminists" (however you define them) is that somehow I'm a misogynist for admiring the beautiful form of a beautiful woman. Do I like to look at hot women naked? You're damn right I do. Do I value them any less because they're... well... hot and naked? Hell no. Do I think they're any "less equal" than I am because they're hot and naked? Again, hell no. They have attributes that I'll never have. They have opportunities that I'll never have. They have abilities that I'll never have. How could they be less than me, when they have so much more than I do?
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:02:29 PM EDT
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One of my biggest complaints against "feminists" (however you define them) is that somehow I'm a misogynist for admiring the beautiful form of a beautiful woman. Do I like to look at hot women naked? You're damn right I do. Do I value them any less because they're... well... hot and naked? Hell no. Do I think they're any "less equal" than I am because they're hot and naked? Again, hell no. They have attributes that I'll never have. They have opportunities that I'll never have. They have abilities that I'll never have. How could they be less than me, when they have so much more than I do? I don't personally know any women who feel that way. I do know a few (myself included) who take issue with the idea that a woman's only worth is tied up in her physical features. I think it's bad juju to vote *not guilty* when an attractive woman makes shitty choices as well as bad juju to allow the fact that a woman is ugly to override any good, worthwhile things she's done. I've seen that attitude here in SPADES over the years. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:30:18 PM EDT
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I don't personally know any women who feel that way. I do know a few (myself included) who take issue with the idea that a woman's only worth is tied up in her physical features. I think it's bad juju to vote *not guilty* when an attractive woman makes shitty choices as well as bad juju to allow the fact that a woman is ugly to override any good, worthwhile things she's done. I've seen that attitude here in SPADES over the years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One of my biggest complaints against "feminists" (however you define them) is that somehow I'm a misogynist for admiring the beautiful form of a beautiful woman. Do I like to look at hot women naked? You're damn right I do. Do I value them any less because they're... well... hot and naked? Hell no. Do I think they're any "less equal" than I am because they're hot and naked? Again, hell no. They have attributes that I'll never have. They have opportunities that I'll never have. They have abilities that I'll never have. How could they be less than me, when they have so much more than I do? I don't personally know any women who feel that way. I do know a few (myself included) who take issue with the idea that a woman's only worth is tied up in her physical features. I think it's bad juju to vote *not guilty* when an attractive woman makes shitty choices as well as bad juju to allow the fact that a woman is ugly to override any good, worthwhile things she's done. I've seen that attitude here in SPADES over the years. I TOTALLY agree with that. An evil bitch is still an evil bitch. My initial attraction to a female is always rooted in that "wow factor" for my own personal tastes. But no matter how much the "wow"... if I discover that she's ugly inside... she's ugly to me. My wife is beautiful to me, inside and out. I wouldn't trade her for the most physically beautiful woman on earth. Beauty really IS much deeper than skin. But I'm a guy... so it's the skin that catches my attention first.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:34:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:40:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm just amused by all manner of sign-holding " hashtag activism" ... Clearly. http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsiz0cMiAQ1r25y9yo1_500.jpg WTF is this? You need a timeout. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:50:17 PM EDT
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Could you redo it on a blank white piece of paper? it will make it easier and the end result will look better. thanks Quote HistoryQuoted:
Could you redo it on a blank white piece of paper? it will make it easier and the end result will look better. thanks don't do it. he's going to shop it.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:53:50 PM EDT
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It would be funny, if I'd said that feminists weren't fat or promiscuous. I was denying that feminism, aside from gender feminism, was about misandry. I don't self-describe as misandrist. In fact, if you do some reasearch, you'll find I put the penis on a pedestal.
Hopefully not "Lorena Bobbit" style... Strictly in the Lady Neckbeard style, m'lord.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:56:38 PM EDT
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Wingnut, it's kind of like saying you don't like Skinheads because racism is wrong.
There's another one! That's two of you now! If 23 more of your friends show up there could be a football riot! 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:56:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF is this? You need a timeout. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm just amused by all manner of sign-holding " hashtag activism" ... Clearly. http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsiz0cMiAQ1r25y9yo1_500.jpg WTF is this? You need a timeout.  |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:57:06 PM EDT
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It would be funny, if I'd said that feminists weren't fat or promiscuous. I was denying that feminism, aside from gender feminism, was about misandry. I don't self-describe as misandrist. In fact, if you do some reasearch, you'll find I put the penis on a pedestal.
Hopefully not "Lorena Bobbit" style... Strictly in the Lady Neckbeard style, m'lord. You horde penises (penii?) from Walmart in the hopes of selling them for a huge markup on Armslist?
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:59:56 PM EDT
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It would be funny, if I'd said that feminists weren't fat or promiscuous. I was denying that feminism, aside from gender feminism, was about misandry. I don't self-describe as misandrist. In fact, if you do some reasearch, you'll find I put the penis on a pedestal.
Hopefully not "Lorena Bobbit" style... Strictly in the Lady Neckbeard style, m'lord. You horde penises (penii?) from Walmart in the hopes of selling them for a huge markup on Armslist? That's not a bad idea! But I just meant in the general, original meaning of neckbeard, before Arfcom redefined it.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 2:00:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm just amused by all manner of sign-holding " hashtag activism" ... Clearly. http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsiz0cMiAQ1r25y9yo1_500.jpg WTF is this? You need a timeout.  |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 3:58:47 PM EDT
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I don't personally know any women who feel that way. I do know a few (myself included) who take issue with the idea that a woman's only worth is tied up in her physical features. I think it's bad juju to vote *not guilty* when an attractive woman makes shitty choices as well as bad juju to allow the fact that a woman is ugly to override any good, worthwhile things she's done. I've seen that attitude here in SPADES over the years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One of my biggest complaints against "feminists" (however you define them) is that somehow I'm a misogynist for admiring the beautiful form of a beautiful woman. Do I like to look at hot women naked? You're damn right I do. Do I value them any less because they're... well... hot and naked? Hell no. Do I think they're any "less equal" than I am because they're hot and naked? Again, hell no. They have attributes that I'll never have. They have opportunities that I'll never have. They have abilities that I'll never have. How could they be less than me, when they have so much more than I do? I don't personally know any women who feel that way. I do know a few (myself included) who take issue with the idea that a woman's only worth is tied up in her physical features. I think it's bad juju to vote *not guilty* when an attractive woman makes shitty choices as well as bad juju to allow the fact that a woman is ugly to override any good, worthwhile things she's done. I've seen that attitude here in SPADES over the years. Amen sister! That's in part what the quote from Rush Limbaugh (about feminism being about giving unattractive women access to mainstream society) is about, but he was trying to be snarky about it. (FYI, I love Rush, but man is he a douche sometimes! )
There's nothing wrong with a plain but otherwise competent woman being "allowed" to get a job in a field that she is qualified. There's nothing wrong with a plain but otherwise smart and worthwhile woman being treated like she has value and worth. It benefits all women, in fact. A friend of mine is young, petite, and very beautiful. She has goals and plans for her life, and talents that she's working on developing. She's always "warned" by people, "Your looks won't last forever" as if she is wasting her life. They won't take her dreams seriously. (They think she should settle down with a man who will "take care of her.") Others (including me) take her dreams seriously and want her to succeed. We're trying to help her as best we can. Not once, in any way, would we allow her to "skate on her looks." It has no bearing in what she's trying to do. She doesn't want to "skate on her looks" either. But to others, that is ALL she is—her looks. She gets so frustrated. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:39:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2014 5:16:16 PM EDT
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Amen sister! That's in part what the quote from Rush Limbaugh (about feminism being about giving unattractive women access to mainstream society) is about, but he was trying to be snarky about it. (FYI, I love Rush, but man is he a douche sometimes! )
There's nothing wrong with a plain but otherwise competent woman being "allowed" to get a job in a field that she is qualified. There's nothing wrong with a plain but otherwise smart and worthwhile woman being treated like she has value and worth. It benefits all women, in fact. A friend of mine is young, petite, and very beautiful. She has goals and plans for her life, and talents that she's working on developing. She's always "warned" by people, "Your looks won't last forever" as if she is wasting her life. They won't take her dreams seriously. (They think she should settle down with a man who will "take care of her.") Others (including me) take her dreams seriously and want her to succeed. We're trying to help her as best we can. Not once, in any way, would we allow her to "skate on her looks." It has no bearing in what she's trying to do. She doesn't want to "skate on her looks" either. But to others, that is ALL she is—her looks. She gets so frustrated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One of my biggest complaints against "feminists" (however you define them) is that somehow I'm a misogynist for admiring the beautiful form of a beautiful woman. Do I like to look at hot women naked? You're damn right I do. Do I value them any less because they're... well... hot and naked? Hell no. Do I think they're any "less equal" than I am because they're hot and naked? Again, hell no. They have attributes that I'll never have. They have opportunities that I'll never have. They have abilities that I'll never have. How could they be less than me, when they have so much more than I do? I don't personally know any women who feel that way. I do know a few (myself included) who take issue with the idea that a woman's only worth is tied up in her physical features. I think it's bad juju to vote *not guilty* when an attractive woman makes shitty choices as well as bad juju to allow the fact that a woman is ugly to override any good, worthwhile things she's done. I've seen that attitude here in SPADES over the years. Amen sister! That's in part what the quote from Rush Limbaugh (about feminism being about giving unattractive women access to mainstream society) is about, but he was trying to be snarky about it. (FYI, I love Rush, but man is he a douche sometimes! )
There's nothing wrong with a plain but otherwise competent woman being "allowed" to get a job in a field that she is qualified. There's nothing wrong with a plain but otherwise smart and worthwhile woman being treated like she has value and worth. It benefits all women, in fact. A friend of mine is young, petite, and very beautiful. She has goals and plans for her life, and talents that she's working on developing. She's always "warned" by people, "Your looks won't last forever" as if she is wasting her life. They won't take her dreams seriously. (They think she should settle down with a man who will "take care of her.") Others (including me) take her dreams seriously and want her to succeed. We're trying to help her as best we can. Not once, in any way, would we allow her to "skate on her looks." It has no bearing in what she's trying to do. She doesn't want to "skate on her looks" either. But to others, that is ALL she is—her looks. She gets so frustrated. And the rub of it all is when she IS successful, nobody will attribute it to her brains, talent and hard work.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 5:39:09 PM EDT
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There's nothing wrong with a plain but otherwise competent woman being "allowed" to get a job in a field that she is qualified. There's nothing wrong with a plain but otherwise smart and worthwhile woman being treated like she has value and worth. It benefits all women, in fact. A friend of mine is young, petite, and very beautiful. She has goals and plans for her life, and talents that she's working on developing. She's always "warned" by people, "Your looks won't last forever" as if she is wasting her life. They won't take her dreams seriously. (They think she should settle down with a man who will "take care of her.") Others (including me) take her dreams seriously and want her to succeed. We're trying to help her as best we can. Not once, in any way, would we allow her to "skate on her looks." It has no bearing in what she's trying to do. She doesn't want to "skate on her looks" either. But to others, that is ALL she is—her looks. She gets so frustrated. And the rub of it all is when she IS successful, nobody will attribute it to her brains, talent and hard work. Yep, can't win for losing! 
In a way, that's where some anonymity can be good. If you have a talent that can be appreciated without everyone seeing YOU (writing, for example), you can get ahead by your merits alone. The public doesn't need to know what you look like, male or female, young or old. Then you know it's your abilities, and not someone's prejudice (for or against) your looks that is coloring their reaction to your work. That's a good thing to know, early in. 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 6:19:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2014 6:22:05 PM EDT
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Good for them.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 6:49:48 PM EDT
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I like this. I approve Surely you don't approve of their spelling/punctuation?
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Posted: 7/30/2014 6:50:36 PM EDT
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The problem with a movement like "feminism" is that there's no baseline for what it "really" is. In most religions (and feminism is definitely a religious movement) you just refer back to a centralized source document(s). Sure there'll be disputes about interpretations etc but plenty of bedrock agreement on basic orthodoxy. A movement like feminism has nothing comparable. It's literally like a religion where one person who claims to be a member is teaching zen Buddhism and another is teaching Hasidic Judaism and a third Wahabbist Islam, and they're all equally deserving of the title. Also, if you want some truly hilarious reading check out radfems. This one blog is a goldmine http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34956007.jpg Making a group who have somewhat similar interests culpable for the idiocy of a few outliers is pretty poor reasoning. Yes, the outliers are batshit crazy. They don't speak for anyone but themself. Responding to the arbitrary group as if they all shared the batshit point of view is ludicrous. You may as well say that Ted Nugent speaks for anyone who owns a gun. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:22:22 PM EDT
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Making a group who have somewhat similar interests culpable for the idiocy of a few outliers is pretty poor reasoning. Yes, the outliers are batshit crazy. They don't speak for anyone but themself. Responding to the arbitrary group as if they all shared the batshit point of view is ludicrous. You may as well say that Ted Nugent speaks for anyone who owns a gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The problem with a movement like "feminism" is that there's no baseline for what it "really" is. In most religions (and feminism is definitely a religious movement) you just refer back to a centralized source document(s). Sure there'll be disputes about interpretations etc but plenty of bedrock agreement on basic orthodoxy. A movement like feminism has nothing comparable. It's literally like a religion where one person who claims to be a member is teaching zen Buddhism and another is teaching Hasidic Judaism and a third Wahabbist Islam, and they're all equally deserving of the title. Also, if you want some truly hilarious reading check out radfems. This one blog is a goldmine http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34956007.jpg Making a group who have somewhat similar interests culpable for the idiocy of a few outliers is pretty poor reasoning. Yes, the outliers are batshit crazy. They don't speak for anyone but themself. Responding to the arbitrary group as if they all shared the batshit point of view is ludicrous. You may as well say that Ted Nugent speaks for anyone who owns a gun. I brought up the radfems as a distinct separate group apart from the first paragraph about feminism. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:37:04 PM EDT
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And what do all of those lovely young women have in common?
Superficially at least, they don't look like man-hating cave trolls - so you won't get an eye poked out from the huge chip on their shoulders. I would venture to guess that they are every bit as attractive on the inside. Consequently, they don't need feminism to get ahead in life - they can achieve their goals based on the content of their character, instead of playing the victim card and using their status as a bludgeon on society. Not a huge Limbaugh fan as of late, but he hit this one out of the park: “Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society.” Yeah, I'm being pretty superficial myself - but stereotypes do frequently exist for a reason. ETA: Quoted:
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So let me get this straight... Feminist: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1323020/thumbs/o-KELLY-MARTIN-BRODERICK-facebook.jpg Anti-feminist: http://37.media.tumblr.com/9ea55684c1e04b44946c9f03f21048fd/tumblr_n9d17rgOUq1syitgfo1_500.jpg Indeed. That about sums it up
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:45:57 PM EDT
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Wow, those are some fantastic women! I thought I might have married the last good women on earth, but there are apparently more out there.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:49:31 PM EDT
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So let me get this straight... Feminist: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1323020/thumbs/o-KELLY-MARTIN-BRODERICK-facebook.jpg Anti-feminist: http://37.media.tumblr.com/9ea55684c1e04b44946c9f03f21048fd/tumblr_n9d17rgOUq1syitgfo1_500.jpg Proves Rush Limbaugh's Undeniable Truth of Life: Feminism is a means for unattractive women to gain access to the mainstream. Didn't work. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:50:56 PM EDT
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"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream. Rush Oops. Just saw this. Ima Rush-doop |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:52:33 PM EDT
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Note, all those ladies are very pleasant to look at and seem to have a very positive attitude and dare I say it, happy.
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