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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:32:48 PM EDT
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So have we decided if we are panicking or not? J&G is panicking, we are making fun of them. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:32:57 PM EDT
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So have we decided if we are panicking or not? I'm willing to panic sell. Got a couple of cases of Wolf I'll part with for, say.. $800 each? |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:33:04 PM EDT
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Sanctions against Russia for the Ukrainian bullshit they're pulling also applies to arms companies. Russian ammo can't be imported at the moment. That is a legitimate reason to stop offering an item for sale on your site, especially if you're a drop ship type operation. Not a legitimate reason to pull that product off of your physical shelves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We carry all types of ammunition, including Wolf ammo, TulAmmo, Bear Ammo, Sellier & Bellot S&B ammo, Prvi Partizan, military surplus and bulk ammunition, hunting ammunition, and we are a Federal ammunition wholesaler. There's no Wolf, Tula or Bear .223/5.56 on their website. Is there a new ban or something on Russkie ammo? Sanctions against Russia for the Ukrainian bullshit they're pulling also applies to arms companies. Russian ammo can't be imported at the moment. That is a legitimate reason to stop offering an item for sale on your site, especially if you're a drop ship type operation. Not a legitimate reason to pull that product off of your physical shelves. J and G isn't a drop ship "store". They have pallets of this stuff up in Prescott (Preskitt  ) and have been in business for many many years.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:33:43 PM EDT
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Thanks for the heads up, I'm buying up everything I can online now.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:34:11 PM EDT
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I just called them 928 445 9650, they're suspending sales of ALL Eastern European AK ammo. 
I pointed out Ukraine=/=Russia, guy said they're suspending all sales and purchases of AK AMMO no matter the manufacturer. Looks like the golden oppertunity to hold and sell high later. It will be back at $400+ a case. 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:34:19 PM EDT
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Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:34:30 PM EDT
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Its really pretty obvious whats going on...I do believe the OP is telling the truth...corporate types sent word to pull it all...why sell inventory today for X when you can sell it for multiples of X in the very near future... Unfortunate but probably true. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:34:36 PM EDT
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Read the fucking thread. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Name the store. Read the fucking thread. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I don't give a shit about your gay little panic, but this flip half sentence answer bullshit is fucking obnoxious at best. Either you want to tell people stuff or you don't. Stop dribbling out little turds of info every other page and get to the point. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:35:33 PM EDT
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I don't give a shit about your gay little panic, but this flip half sentence answer bullshit is fucking obnoxious at best. Either you want to tell people stuff or you don't. Stop dribbling out little turds of info every other page and get to the point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Name the store. Here here Read the fucking thread. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I don't give a shit about your gay little panic, but this flip half sentence answer bullshit is fucking obnoxious at best. Either you want to tell people stuff or you don't. Stop dribbling out little turds of info every other page and get to the point. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:35:36 PM EDT
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Look at my post count. Not bullshitting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like bullshit. Look at my post count. Not bullshitting. You call that a post count? 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:35:45 PM EDT
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All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That is fucking stupid. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:35:46 PM EDT
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All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That's really weird. WTF, do they think Obama is going to be sanctioning Hornady?
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:35:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Doesn't make sense...or does it. eta panic pricing, peppered angus, etc. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:36:38 PM EDT
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More likely that some employees or, even the owner, thinks to sit on product for extra profit. Not much you can do other than note who is doing it and do business elsewhere. <<shrugs>> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont think sanctions would impact ammunition that already made it out of a bonded warehouse. Is this a retail store? Are they repricing it in anticipation of no further supply? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile More likely that some employees or, even the owner, thinks to sit on product for extra profit. Not much you can do other than note who is doing it and do business elsewhere. <<shrugs>> You'll find it in EE soon enough. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:37:04 PM EDT
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That's really weird. WTF, do they think Obama is going to be sanctioning Hornady? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. That's really weird. WTF, do they think Obama is going to be sanctioning Hornady? They pulled thousands of rounds of American Eagle. Austrailian .223 as well. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:37:09 PM EDT
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All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ok, now it sounds like they're doing some kind of inventory management deal/rearranging the store/something like that. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:37:15 PM EDT
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All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile For future reference - when you see gun shop folks doing stuff like this, find out if they've been drinking. It sounds like someone at J&G sales was fucking wasted. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:37:24 PM EDT
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Someone at J&G has got the derp going on
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:38:27 PM EDT
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So far this is ONE stupid company doing STUPID things.
Reminds me of............... CTD. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:39:01 PM EDT
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Meh, J&G are a bunch of useless cunts who sold me the wrong magazines, denied that they had done so, refused to give me an RMA twice (cause it's impossible they could have made a mistake), and when I finally forced the issue agreed to exchange them but wanted me to pay return shipping. Fuck those guys.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:39:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its really pretty obvious whats going on...I do believe the OP is telling the truth...corporate types sent word to pull it all...why sell inventory today for X when you can sell it for multiples of X in the very near future... I'm going with this. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:41:01 PM EDT
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I'm going with this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its really pretty obvious whats going on...I do believe the OP is telling the truth...corporate types sent word to pull it all...why sell inventory today for X when you can sell it for multiples of X in the very near future... I'm going with this. But even the U.S. made stuff? That is beyond stupid. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:41:01 PM EDT
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Looks like the golden oppertunity to holdvand sell high later. It will be back at $400+ a case.
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I just called them 928 445 9650, they're suspending sales of ALL Eastern European AK ammo.
I pointed out Ukraine=/=Russia, guy said they're suspending all sales and purchases of AK AMMO no matter the manufacturer. Looks like the golden oppertunity to holdvand sell high later. It will be back at $400+ a case.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:41:22 PM EDT
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I just bought some 762x54r off Buds, just in case. I only shoot brass though. Sucks if the prices go up.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:41:37 PM EDT
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They pulled thousands of rounds of American Eagle. Austrailian .223 as well. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. That's really weird. WTF, do they think Obama is going to be sanctioning Hornady? They pulled thousands of rounds of American Eagle. Austrailian .223 as well. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile All calibers? |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:41:51 PM EDT
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I thought sanctions said if you already had the product in hand you could still sell it? Only orders that need to stop were ones that hadn't been fulfilled yet or something.
Better use of ruskie ammo for protest is shoot tons of tannerite filled Putin targets with it... |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:42:29 PM EDT
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I have 3 rounds of a mystery caliber. Ima sell it on EE for Eleventy Billion dollars.....per round
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:43:06 PM EDT
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I know of a small shop with 8 cases of MFS 7.62X39 
Wonder what it'll be worth? |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:43:41 PM EDT
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Someone just call them and find out what is happening so I can stop panicking over here.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:44:21 PM EDT
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Sounds like someone at Legal added herp + derp and got PANIC!!! at the Ammo Store.
Oh, and finally post 556. Its only taken 10 years. I'm lame 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:44:35 PM EDT
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In the store. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Finally we get information. PerGoogle cache tken on Jul 20, J&G sold Brown Bear 7.62x39 ammunition. They currently do not. Of course, removing something from online sales and "pulling it from the shelves!" are two completely different things. So OP, are you physically at the store watching them pull items off the shelves, or are you in front of your computer and saw that they aren't on the site... In the store. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile ETA: I see it now. Just don't understand why you left the details off the original message. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:45:09 PM EDT
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Sounds like bullshit. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:45:27 PM EDT
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Sounds like someone at Legal added herp + derp and got PANIC!!! at the Ammo Store. Oh, and finally post 556. Its only taken 10 years. I'm lame Congrats sir. 10 years to post 556 times is quite the feat. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:45:32 PM EDT
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I just bought some 762x54r off Buds, just in case. I only shoot brass though. Sucks if the prices go up. Perfect example of a panic buy. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:45:42 PM EDT
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OMGWTFBBQ!!! WHAT IS GOING ON!!! PANIC!!!!!!
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:45:54 PM EDT
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More sanctions coming, no more Russian made ammo, all ammo in those cartridges will go up in price. J&G is just getting ready for it. That's my guess.
http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/07/29/obama-expected-to-announce-us-sanctions-on-russia ETA: That link doesn't mention any arms/ammo sanctions, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is more than what the article focuses on. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:46:43 PM EDT
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Sounds like someone at Legal added herp + derp and got PANIC!!! at the Ammo Store. Oh, and finally post 556. Its only taken 10 years. I'm lame In a 7.62 thread no less!
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:47:43 PM EDT
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More sanctions coming, no more Russian made ammo, all ammo in those cartridges will go up in price. J&G is just getting ready for it. That's my guess. http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/07/29/obama-expected-to-announce-us-sanctions-on-russia Do not fuel the panic. From your link: President Barack Obama is to announce a new round of U.S. sanctions against Russian banks and a shipbuilding company Tuesday. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:47:57 PM EDT
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Name the store. Read the fucking thread. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This thread is fucking retarded, you have posted 3 words of info per page
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:48:09 PM EDT
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I called 928-445-9650. Spoke to a woman who said they are not selling military calibers or pistol ammo, regardless of make / country of origin. The only ammo they will sell at this time is hunting ammo.
Feel free to call and ask for yourself. Seems like J&G is single handedly trying to kick off a new panic. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:48:45 PM EDT
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More sanctions coming, no more Russian made ammo, all ammo in those cartridges will go up in price. J&G is just getting ready for it. That's my guess. http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/07/29/obama-expected-to-announce-us-sanctions-on-russia Today's exact sanction additions were posted. Link Some Russian? shipping companies and a couple of Russian banks. No arms manufactures. A search of the complete SDN list doesn't reveal Tula or Tulskiy either. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:48:47 PM EDT
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Do not fuel the panic. From your link: President Barack Obama is to announce a new round of U.S. sanctions against Russian banks and a shipbuilding company Tuesday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More sanctions coming, no more Russian made ammo, all ammo in those cartridges will go up in price. J&G is just getting ready for it. That's my guess. http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/07/29/obama-expected-to-announce-us-sanctions-on-russia Do not fuel the panic. From your link: President Barack Obama is to announce a new round of U.S. sanctions against Russian banks and a shipbuilding company Tuesday. It also mentions defense industry later in the article. FULL PANIC AHEAD!!! |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:49:29 PM EDT
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So if they're repricing, are they pulling it off the shelves to put new stickers on?
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:49:33 PM EDT
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I called 928-445-9650. Spoke to a woman who said they are not selling military calibers or pistol ammo, regardless of make / country of origin. The only ammo they will sell at this time is hunting ammo. Feel free to call and ask for yourself. Seems like J&G is single handedly trying to kick off a new panic. THE NEW CTD! 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:49:49 PM EDT
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The new round of sanctions that were announced today seemed to ban all arms for military or civilian use. I don't know if that was meant to encompass Russian manufactured ammo or not, but it certainly seems more likely to that the previous round.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:49:51 PM EDT
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LOL, bet they are pulling it to sell at a higher price in the ensuing panic!
Edit, I guess it is true, I should have kept reading. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:50:41 PM EDT
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Pulling the all ready paid for stock. Interesting
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:51:01 PM EDT
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Finally we get information. PerGoogle cache tken on Jul 20, J&G sold Brown Bear 7.62x39 ammunition. They currently do not. Of course, removing something from online sales and "pulling it from the shelves!" are two completely different things. So OP, are you physically at the store watching them pull items off the shelves, or are you in front of your computer and saw that they aren't on the site... In the store. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile ETA: I see it now. Just don't understand why you left the details off the original message. Im posting from my phone as I get a free minute. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:51:31 PM EDT
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Fuckin' great
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:51:35 PM EDT
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That's really weird. WTF, do they think Obama is going to be sanctioning Hornady? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just passing on what I saw. No bullshit on my part. There was definitely some confusion going on, but when I left, the shelves were bare. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Bare of what? All ammo? As in everything? I think someone left their computer logged in. All ammo pulled. Even American manufactured stuff was off the shelves. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That's really weird. WTF, do they think Obama is going to be sanctioning Hornady? Russian ammo is the only thing that's been keeping the US stuff reasonable. Guess what happens to American ammo prices when they aren't facing Russian competition and supply drops to an all time low, while demand increases. Just playing devils advocate here, not sure what J&G has going on, but that's what would happen, from their point of view, if there is some sort of ban. |
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