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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:40:24 AM EDT
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holy hell at the bad information in this thread....you tards need to go back to the neckbeard thread
ISIS is made up of sunni's.....they hate shiites.....iran is shiite, and will not take kindly to isis controlling iraq, that will be an ongoing fight isis next target aside from trying to take over iraq and syria will be jordan. jordan falls into part of their plan for the state. isis if anything will fight israel by proxy jesus i almost thought this was a troll thread 
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:42:37 AM EDT
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I am agnostic If Isis takes control of Iraq and if they continue to destroy Religious buildings they might push far enough into Israel to destroy the temple Mount and in the end after getting their asses kicked the temple could be rebuilt Armageddon  Israel won't let them push in. If it looked like a battle was at hand, Israel will strike first and take the battle to them. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:46:06 AM EDT
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Pfffft good luck to them. Israel will stomp them into oblivion.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:48:03 AM EDT
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Tranquility of the Global Community™
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:49:23 AM EDT
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I predict that Israel will stomp their dicks in without too much effort. I came here to post this. Israel has the strength and character to do what needs to be done. I see no cause for serious concern. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:52:09 AM EDT
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No better entertainment than GD.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:53:57 AM EDT
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Israel has nothing to worry about. They have such an effective lobby in this country that they will get our elected officials to go into more debt in order to make sure they live well. If giving them money and weapons doesn't do the job then we will give them the lives of young men because Israel's security is always a lot more important than the interest of the US.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:55:02 AM EDT
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No better entertainment than GD. It's like a perfect storm of stupid. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:55:27 AM EDT
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Israel has nothing to worry about. They have such an effective lobby in this country that they will get our elected officials to go into more debt in order to make sure they live well. If giving them money and weapons doesn't do the job then we will give them the lives of young men because Israel's security is always a lot more important than the interest of the US. oh for fuck's sake. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:55:55 AM EDT
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Israel has nothing to worry about. They have such an effective lobby in this country that they will get our elected officials to go into more debt in order to make sure they live well. If giving them money and weapons doesn't do the job then we will give them the lives of young men because Israel's security is always a lot more important than the interest of the US. There had to be somebody who said it... |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 10:58:26 AM EDT
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Israel has nothing to worry about. They have such an effective lobby in this country that they will get our elected officials to go into more debt in order to make sure they live well. If giving them money and weapons doesn't do the job then we will give them the lives of young men because Israel's security is always a lot more important than the interest of the US. Down with the Illuminati! 
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:02:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:09:35 AM EDT
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OP: ISIS is Israel's next war
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:13:20 AM EDT
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All the muslim countries will come together to form Voltron.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:13:50 AM EDT
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ISIS holds Iraq at the pleasure of the disenfranchised Sunnis shieks who are pissed off at the Prime Minister Maliki (a Shia) for steam rolling them politically. Sunnis are like a 5th of the Iraqi population. The Sunni shieks will only back ISIS for the time being. The average Iraq has no desire to live under Sharia law. The last time the Sunnis militias allied themselves with the USA they essentially destroyed Al-Qa‘ida in Iraq. Which you might have guessed is now called ISIS.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:14:18 AM EDT
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All the muslim countries will come together to form Voltron. I'm imagining a giant robot with a dynamite vest and flowing white sheet on now. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:16:33 AM EDT
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The entire region is just one big inner city gang war, the middle east will never be "one country". It will always be some mix of dictators and roving gang groups, filled with a whole lot of illiterate farmers that don't care either way. Not saying they won't threaten Israel in some capacity but ISIS taking Iran, Iraq, Egypt, and Jordan and uniting them into some sort of snackbar-NATO hell bent on a unified invasion of Israel isn't happening. Yep.....it would take full alignment with Russian-China and full commitment by them....imo It will take a lot more jostling by the NWO to set this up...imo |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:18:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:19:46 AM EDT
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The entire region is just one big inner city gang war, the middle east will never be "one country". It will always be some mix of dictators and roving gang groups, filled with a whole lot of illiterate farmers that don't care either way. Not saying they won't threaten Israel in some capacity but ISIS taking Iran, Iraq, Egypt, and Jordan and uniting them into some sort of snackbar-NATO hell bent on a unified invasion of Israel isn't happening. A form of human organization/governance which predates gangs and dictators. Tribalism. It isn't a lack of caring. Those illerate farmers do what their Sheiks (first) and Mullahs (second) tell them to do. Why Arabs Lose Wars by Col. De Atkine |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:24:01 AM EDT
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A form of human organization/governance which predates gangs and dictators. Tribalism. It isn't a lack of caring. Those illerate farmers do what their Sheiks (first) and Mullahs (second) tell them to do. Why Arabs Lose Wars by Col. De Atkine Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The entire region is just one big inner city gang war, the middle east will never be "one country". It will always be some mix of dictators and roving gang groups, filled with a whole lot of illiterate farmers that don't care either way. Not saying they won't threaten Israel in some capacity but ISIS taking Iran, Iraq, Egypt, and Jordan and uniting them into some sort of snackbar-NATO hell bent on a unified invasion of Israel isn't happening. A form of human organization/governance which predates gangs and dictators. Tribalism. It isn't a lack of caring. Those illerate farmers do what their Sheiks (first) and Mullahs (second) tell them to do. Why Arabs Lose Wars by Col. De Atkine Thanks, I'll give that a read. In a nutshell it's like herding cats to get an effective military force out of anyone in that area. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:29:52 AM EDT
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Lol
Israel attacked from all sides? Never been done befo! |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:30:22 AM EDT
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Yup. ISIS right now is 5,000 shitheads with minimal mechanization, minimal artillery, and zero air power. They could probably be wiped off the face of the Earth by a couple of regiment-sized elements with air support from any Western nation if the motivation were there. But instead they'll just keep expanding, recruiting, and trying to form alliances, becoming a bigger and bigger hornet's nest on the porch of the world. If ever there were a reason for a Western military intervention in Iraq, this would be it. Much more so than the Saddam/WMD pretext. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS has not met any resistance worth mentioning. If the USA does not get off their ass we will regret waiting. Yup. ISIS right now is 5,000 shitheads with minimal mechanization, minimal artillery, and zero air power. They could probably be wiped off the face of the Earth by a couple of regiment-sized elements with air support from any Western nation if the motivation were there. But instead they'll just keep expanding, recruiting, and trying to form alliances, becoming a bigger and bigger hornet's nest on the porch of the world. If ever there were a reason for a Western military intervention in Iraq, this would be it. Much more so than the Saddam/WMD pretext. Estimates put the number of "foreign fighters" alligned with ISIS in Syria alone right now at 12,000. If you include the thousands they appear to have in Iraq and any Syrian nationals not included in that number I think your figure of 5,000 is a little low. Looks like they could be pushing 18-20k easily. Their success in Iraq has definitely been a boon in recruitment. The 12,000 figure is from our gov estimates mentioned on Fox News. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:34:49 AM EDT
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Thanks, I'll give that a read. In a nutshell it's like herding cats to get an effective military force out of anyone in that area. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The entire region is just one big inner city gang war, the middle east will never be "one country". It will always be some mix of dictators and roving gang groups, filled with a whole lot of illiterate farmers that don't care either way. Not saying they won't threaten Israel in some capacity but ISIS taking Iran, Iraq, Egypt, and Jordan and uniting them into some sort of snackbar-NATO hell bent on a unified invasion of Israel isn't happening. A form of human organization/governance which predates gangs and dictators. Tribalism. It isn't a lack of caring. Those illerate farmers do what their Sheiks (first) and Mullahs (second) tell them to do. Why Arabs Lose Wars by Col. De Atkine Thanks, I'll give that a read. In a nutshell it's like herding cats to get an effective military force out of anyone in that area. The single biggest reason I attribute is piss poor leadership. That simple. No effective NCO Corps to speak of (Soviet system). A lazy and selfish officer Corps that looks at the enlisted men as peasants/slaves. Who simultaneously withhold information/knowledge in order to shamelessly promote themselves. Its all down hill from there. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:39:58 AM EDT
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It would take a new administration unless one of the ISIS members holding a western passport goes off in a US mall somewhere. They will get at least almost three years to consolidate because that is how long the Halfrican will still be around. As long as that tool is in charge nothing will happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS has not met any resistance worth mentioning. If the USA does not get off their ass we will regret waiting. Yup. ISIS right now is 5,000 shitheads with minimal mechanization, minimal artillery, and zero air power. They could probably be wiped off the face of the Earth by a couple of regiment-sized elements with air support from any Western nation if the motivation were there. But instead they'll just keep expanding, recruiting, and trying to form alliances, becoming a bigger and bigger hornet's nest on the porch of the world. If ever there were a reason for a Western military intervention in Iraq, this would be it. Much more so than the Saddam/WMD pretext. It would take a new administration unless one of the ISIS members holding a western passport goes off in a US mall somewhere. They will get at least almost three years to consolidate because that is how long the Halfrican will still be around. As long as that tool is in charge nothing will happen. .....That can be arranged. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:45:40 AM EDT
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I'm sure the IDF and Israeli government have given this some thought.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:50:56 AM EDT
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All the muslim countries will come together to form Voltron. Damn You ROST |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:53:29 AM EDT
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The single biggest reason I attribute is piss poor leadership. That simple. No effective NCO Corps to speak of (Soviet system). A lazy and selfish officer Corps that looks at the enlisted men as peasants/slaves. Who simultaneously withhold information/knowledge in order to shamelessly promote themselves. Its all down hill from there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The entire region is just one big inner city gang war, the middle east will never be "one country". It will always be some mix of dictators and roving gang groups, filled with a whole lot of illiterate farmers that don't care either way. Not saying they won't threaten Israel in some capacity but ISIS taking Iran, Iraq, Egypt, and Jordan and uniting them into some sort of snackbar-NATO hell bent on a unified invasion of Israel isn't happening. A form of human organization/governance which predates gangs and dictators. Tribalism. It isn't a lack of caring. Those illerate farmers do what their Sheiks (first) and Mullahs (second) tell them to do. Why Arabs Lose Wars by Col. De Atkine Thanks, I'll give that a read. In a nutshell it's like herding cats to get an effective military force out of anyone in that area. The single biggest reason I attribute is piss poor leadership. That simple. No effective NCO Corps to speak of (Soviet system). A lazy and selfish officer Corps that looks at the enlisted men as peasants/slaves. Who simultaneously withhold information/knowledge in order to shamelessly promote themselves. Its all down hill from there. Good read, and agreed as well. It's pretty comical the level of incompetence Arab military forces face. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:54:53 AM EDT
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Hopefully, they'll use lots of napalm. https://mcmsbrooks.wikispaces.com/file/view/Napalm_Attack.jpg/218475138/953x289/Napalm_Attack.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I predict that Israel will stomp their dicks in without too much effort. Hopefully, they'll use lots of napalm. https://mcmsbrooks.wikispaces.com/file/view/Napalm_Attack.jpg/218475138/953x289/Napalm_Attack.jpg I hope we are ramping up cluster bomb production...so Israel and the USA can shred ISIS and then napalm/FAE the the parts. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:55:01 AM EDT
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holy hell at the bad information in this thread....you tards need to go back to the neckbeard thread ISIS is made up of sunni's.....they hate shiites.....iran is shiite, and will not take kindly to isis controlling iraq, that will be an ongoing fight isis next target aside from trying to take over iraq and syria will be jordan. jordan falls into part of their plan for the state. isis if anything will fight israel by proxy jesus i almost thought this was a troll thread this |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:56:40 AM EDT
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ISIS has bigger problems to deal with. Like Iran. Also, the guy who said Iran would let ISIS ally with them = . Iran = Shia, and ISIS is Sunni.Enough with your damn facts already 
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:04:32 PM EDT
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ISIS is about 7k to 20k strong at the moment with mostly battlefield pickups and zero capability of posing any kind of threat from the air. They have very little in the way of allies in the Middle East as Iran is directly opposed to them and I doubt Saudi Arabia has much interest in them upsetting the status quo. Israel would curb stomp them unless there is some new development that garners them an order of magnitude increase in support. Despite the last few conflicts, Israel hasn't even come close to taking the gloves off in quite some time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS WILL own Iraq in due time, then will join Hamas to bring the fight into Israel. Hezbollah from the north and Israel is going to have a hell of a fight. This will happen, folks. ISIS is about 7k to 20k strong at the moment with mostly battlefield pickups and zero capability of posing any kind of threat from the air. They have very little in the way of allies in the Middle East as Iran is directly opposed to them and I doubt Saudi Arabia has much interest in them upsetting the status quo. Israel would curb stomp them unless there is some new development that garners them an order of magnitude increase in support. Despite the last few conflicts, Israel hasn't even come close to taking the gloves off in quite some time. I think it's easy for people to forget what professional military capability means. We have become accustomed to seeing squad level tactics against shitheads with 7th grade educations and shooting one or two guys placing an IED with a $102,300.00 Hellfire-R missile with single drones or a helicopter on station. Because reporters go to war with Soldiers, from day one of the battle, We haven't seen the gloves come off since the Korean or possibly the Second World War. An modern, professional military with it's manpower, artillery, air power, mechanized capability with no limits on how they prosecute their mission is capable of inflicting unimaginable damage by most people's understanding of what soldiers to. If Israel ever had to go weapons hot in an unrestricted war and not worry about political fallout, it wouldn't be a contest. Hezbollah/Hamas would, if any were still left alive, be laying in a pile of their own shit and blood trying to close up their gaping asshole. When we invaded Iraq, they were the 7th largest military in world. We didn't curbstomp them, we Eviscerated them. They didn't even slow our momentum down as we charged toward Bagdhad. In pressing forward it was a bigger problem for some units to have to wait for other elements to catch up than to meet resistance from the Iraqi military/Republican Guard. Not a lot of people know it, but Colin Powell called off the airstrikes along the "Highway of Death" because as many as we killed, he was worried about the opinion of the International Community. The middle east has seen a lot of Conflict, I don't think they have seen War. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:07:24 PM EDT
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I think it's easy for people to forget what professional military capability means. We have become accustomed to seeing squad level tactics against shitheads with 7th grade educations and shooting one or two guys placing an IED with a $102,300.00 Hellfire-R missile with single drones or a helicopter on station. Because reporters go to war with Soldiers, from day one of the battle, We haven't seen the gloves come off since the Korean or possibly the Second World War. An modern, professional military with it's manpower, artillery, air power, mechanized capability with no limits on how they prosecute their mission is capable of inflicting unimaginable damage by most people's understanding of what soldiers to. If Israel ever had to go weapons hot in an unrestricted war and not worry about political fallout, it wouldn't be a contest. Hezbollah/Hamas would, if any were still left alive, be laying in a pile of their own shit and blood trying to close up their gaping asshole. When we invaded Iraq, they were the 7th largest military in world. We didn't curbstomp them, we Eviscerated them. They didn't even slow our momentum down as we charged toward Bagdhad. In pressing forward it was a bigger problem for some units to have to wait for other elements to catch up than to meet resistance from the Iraqi military/Republican Guard. Not a lot of people know it, but Colin Powell called off the airstrikes along the "Highway of Death" because as many as we killed, he was worried about the opinion of the International Community. The middle east has seen a lot of Conflict, I don't think they have seen War. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS WILL own Iraq in due time, then will join Hamas to bring the fight into Israel. Hezbollah from the north and Israel is going to have a hell of a fight. This will happen, folks. ISIS is about 7k to 20k strong at the moment with mostly battlefield pickups and zero capability of posing any kind of threat from the air. They have very little in the way of allies in the Middle East as Iran is directly opposed to them and I doubt Saudi Arabia has much interest in them upsetting the status quo. Israel would curb stomp them unless there is some new development that garners them an order of magnitude increase in support. Despite the last few conflicts, Israel hasn't even come close to taking the gloves off in quite some time. I think it's easy for people to forget what professional military capability means. We have become accustomed to seeing squad level tactics against shitheads with 7th grade educations and shooting one or two guys placing an IED with a $102,300.00 Hellfire-R missile with single drones or a helicopter on station. Because reporters go to war with Soldiers, from day one of the battle, We haven't seen the gloves come off since the Korean or possibly the Second World War. An modern, professional military with it's manpower, artillery, air power, mechanized capability with no limits on how they prosecute their mission is capable of inflicting unimaginable damage by most people's understanding of what soldiers to. If Israel ever had to go weapons hot in an unrestricted war and not worry about political fallout, it wouldn't be a contest. Hezbollah/Hamas would, if any were still left alive, be laying in a pile of their own shit and blood trying to close up their gaping asshole. When we invaded Iraq, they were the 7th largest military in world. We didn't curbstomp them, we Eviscerated them. They didn't even slow our momentum down as we charged toward Bagdhad. In pressing forward it was a bigger problem for some units to have to wait for other elements to catch up than to meet resistance from the Iraqi military/Republican Guard. Not a lot of people know it, but Colin Powell called off the airstrikes along the "Highway of Death" because as many as we killed, he was worried about the opinion of the International Community. The middle east has seen a lot of Conflict, I don't think they have seen War. Colin Powell failed at that moment. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:08:20 PM EDT
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I hope we are ramping up cluster bomb production...so Israel and the USA can shred ISIS and then napalm/FAE the the parts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I predict that Israel will stomp their dicks in without too much effort. Hopefully, they'll use lots of napalm. https://mcmsbrooks.wikispaces.com/file/view/Napalm_Attack.jpg/218475138/953x289/Napalm_Attack.jpg I hope we are ramping up cluster bomb production...so Israel and the USA can shred ISIS and then napalm/FAE the the parts. Yea, cluster bombs are good, too. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:08:39 PM EDT
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Until ISIS has competent armor and air support, they present no threat to Israel.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:09:10 PM EDT
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I think it's easy for people to forget what professional military capability means. We have become accustomed to seeing squad level tactics against shitheads with 7th grade educations and shooting one or two guys placing an IED with a $102,300.00 Hellfire-R missile with single drones or a helicopter on station. Because reporters go to war with Soldiers, from day one of the battle, We haven't seen the gloves come off since the Korean or possibly the Second World War. An modern, professional military with it's manpower, artillery, air power, mechanized capability with no limits on how they prosecute their mission is capable of inflicting unimaginable damage by most people's understanding of what soldiers to. If Israel ever had to go weapons hot in an unrestricted war and not worry about political fallout, it wouldn't be a contest. Hezbollah/Hamas would, if any were still left alive, be laying in a pile of their own shit and blood trying to close up their gaping asshole. When we invaded Iraq, they were the 7th largest military in world. We didn't curbstomp them, we Eviscerated them. They didn't even slow our momentum down as we charged toward Bagdhad. In pressing forward it was a bigger problem for some units to have to wait for other elements to catch up than to meet resistance from the Iraqi military/Republican Guard. Not a lot of people know it, but Colin Powell called off the airstrikes along the "Highway of Death" because as many as we killed, he was worried about the opinion of the International Community. The middle east has seen a lot of Conflict, I don't think they have seen War. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS WILL own Iraq in due time, then will join Hamas to bring the fight into Israel. Hezbollah from the north and Israel is going to have a hell of a fight. This will happen, folks. ISIS is about 7k to 20k strong at the moment with mostly battlefield pickups and zero capability of posing any kind of threat from the air. They have very little in the way of allies in the Middle East as Iran is directly opposed to them and I doubt Saudi Arabia has much interest in them upsetting the status quo. Israel would curb stomp them unless there is some new development that garners them an order of magnitude increase in support. Despite the last few conflicts, Israel hasn't even come close to taking the gloves off in quite some time. I think it's easy for people to forget what professional military capability means. We have become accustomed to seeing squad level tactics against shitheads with 7th grade educations and shooting one or two guys placing an IED with a $102,300.00 Hellfire-R missile with single drones or a helicopter on station. Because reporters go to war with Soldiers, from day one of the battle, We haven't seen the gloves come off since the Korean or possibly the Second World War. An modern, professional military with it's manpower, artillery, air power, mechanized capability with no limits on how they prosecute their mission is capable of inflicting unimaginable damage by most people's understanding of what soldiers to. If Israel ever had to go weapons hot in an unrestricted war and not worry about political fallout, it wouldn't be a contest. Hezbollah/Hamas would, if any were still left alive, be laying in a pile of their own shit and blood trying to close up their gaping asshole. When we invaded Iraq, they were the 7th largest military in world. We didn't curbstomp them, we Eviscerated them. They didn't even slow our momentum down as we charged toward Bagdhad. In pressing forward it was a bigger problem for some units to have to wait for other elements to catch up than to meet resistance from the Iraqi military/Republican Guard. Not a lot of people know it, but Colin Powell called off the airstrikes along the "Highway of Death" because as many as we killed, he was worried about the opinion of the International Community. The middle east has seen a lot of Conflict, I don't think they have seen War. Read the article Miles posted and you can easily understand why they suck ass in a stand up fight. On the flip side they dominate and tie up invaders via insurgency very effectively over long periods of time. If Israel invaded another country it would need to be an almost literal medieval style invasion, which wouldn't sit well with the rest of the world. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:09:22 PM EDT
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10,000 relatively disorganized and underarmed jihadists that would likely break and run in short order against Israel... Not much contest I don't think. But what the fuck do I know, I'm a nasty civilian who hasn't seen what jihadists are capable of first hand.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS has not met any resistance worth mentioning. If the USA does not get off their ass we will regret waiting. Yup. ISIS right now is 5,000 shitheads with minimal mechanization, minimal artillery, and zero air power. They could probably be wiped off the face of the Earth by a couple of regiment-sized elements with air support from any Western nation if the motivation were there. But instead they'll just keep expanding, recruiting, and trying to form alliances, becoming a bigger and bigger hornet's nest on the porch of the world. If ever there were a reason for a Western military intervention in Iraq, this would be it. Much more so than the Saddam/WMD pretext. According to some people's estimates, I've heard they have as many as 10,000 people. In Iraq alone. 10,000 relatively disorganized and underarmed jihadists that would likely break and run in short order against Israel... Not much contest I don't think. But what the fuck do I know, I'm a nasty civilian who hasn't seen what jihadists are capable of first hand. Someone needs to watch ISIS videos. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:16:37 PM EDT
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Israel has nothing to worry about. They have such an effective lobby in this country that they will get our elected officials to go into more debt in order to make sure they live well. If giving them money and weapons doesn't do the job then we will give them the lives of young men because Israel's security is always a lot more important than the interest of the US. How long have you been asleep? Since you joined Arf? |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:11:51 PM EDT
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Read the article Miles posted and you can easily understand why they suck ass in a stand up fight. On the flip side they dominate and tie up invaders via insurgency very effectively over long periods of time. If Israel invaded another country it would need to be an almost literal medieval style invasion, which wouldn't sit well with the rest of the world. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS WILL own Iraq in due time, then will join Hamas to bring the fight into Israel. Hezbollah from the north and Israel is going to have a hell of a fight. This will happen, folks. ISIS is about 7k to 20k strong at the moment with mostly battlefield pickups and zero capability of posing any kind of threat from the air. They have very little in the way of allies in the Middle East as Iran is directly opposed to them and I doubt Saudi Arabia has much interest in them upsetting the status quo. Israel would curb stomp them unless there is some new development that garners them an order of magnitude increase in support. Despite the last few conflicts, Israel hasn't even come close to taking the gloves off in quite some time. I think it's easy for people to forget what professional military capability means. We have become accustomed to seeing squad level tactics against shitheads with 7th grade educations and shooting one or two guys placing an IED with a $102,300.00 Hellfire-R missile with single drones or a helicopter on station. Because reporters go to war with Soldiers, from day one of the battle, We haven't seen the gloves come off since the Korean or possibly the Second World War. An modern, professional military with it's manpower, artillery, air power, mechanized capability with no limits on how they prosecute their mission is capable of inflicting unimaginable damage by most people's understanding of what soldiers to. If Israel ever had to go weapons hot in an unrestricted war and not worry about political fallout, it wouldn't be a contest. Hezbollah/Hamas would, if any were still left alive, be laying in a pile of their own shit and blood trying to close up their gaping asshole. When we invaded Iraq, they were the 7th largest military in world. We didn't curbstomp them, we Eviscerated them. They didn't even slow our momentum down as we charged toward Bagdhad. In pressing forward it was a bigger problem for some units to have to wait for other elements to catch up than to meet resistance from the Iraqi military/Republican Guard. Not a lot of people know it, but Colin Powell called off the airstrikes along the "Highway of Death" because as many as we killed, he was worried about the opinion of the International Community. The middle east has seen a lot of Conflict, I don't think they have seen War. Read the article Miles posted and you can easily understand why they suck ass in a stand up fight. On the flip side they dominate and tie up invaders via insurgency very effectively over long periods of time. If Israel invaded another country it would need to be an almost literal medieval style invasion, which wouldn't sit well with the rest of the world. Doesn't sound to me like Israel wants to capture and hold any ground, just protect what is theirs. And yes, I agree-Wars should be Mideval. When they are done with half-measures, we tend to lose our respect for how awful they are. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:14:06 PM EDT
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Israel has nothing to worry about. They have such an effective lobby in this country that they will get our elected officials to go into more debt in order to make sure they live well. If giving them money and weapons doesn't do the job then we will give them the lives of young men because Israel's security is always a lot more important than the interest of the US. And the 88ers reveal themselves. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:15:59 PM EDT
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Isis along with other terrorist organizations still haven't beaten Syria in two plus years. There is absolutely no way ISIS will be able to even but a dent into the Israeli military.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:16:50 PM EDT
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This. But ISIS is made up of Iranians. After they take Iraq they will merge with Iran. They will then take Jordan,Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. Then shit will hit the fan. That is when Israel nukes the land of MOAB. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISIS WILL own Iraq in due time, then will join Hamas to bring the fight into Israel. Hezbollah from the north and Israel is going to have a hell of a fight. This will happen, folks. This. But ISIS is made up of Iranians. After they take Iraq they will merge with Iran. They will then take Jordan,Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. Then shit will hit the fan. That is when Israel nukes the land of MOAB. ISIS is currently AT WAR with Iran. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:16:56 PM EDT
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HAMAS and Iran both fought/fight against ISIS in Syria. I doubt ISIS would ally with HAMAS to take on Israel.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:17:46 PM EDT
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So Sunnis and Shiites will unite? I guess it's possible as they both hate Israel and the US, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Remember all of the violence in Iraq recently has been them fighting each other.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:18:59 PM EDT
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Doesn't sound to me like Israel wants to capture and hold any ground, just protect what is theirs. And yes, I agree-Wars should be Medieval. When they are done with half-measures, we tend to lose our respect for how awful they are. Through half-measures we may lose respect and lose sight of how truly awful total-war is, but, it is through those half-measures that we try to prevent such war from happening.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:23:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:36:41 PM EDT
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Isis along with other terrorist organizations still haven't beaten Syria in two plus years. There is absolutely no way ISIS will be able to even but a dent into the Israeli military. They are fighting the Syrian Army backed by Iranian RG troops and some hard ass Hezbollah fighters. Then they are also up against the Free Syrian Army who number around 100,000 if I remember correctly. The FSA is mostly comprised of ex-Syrian army troops so they are no slouches. Considering the circumstances they are doing pretty good. If it was just the Syrian Army alone it might be a different story. Underestimating ISIS is a mistake. Since this is GD I had better put a note in here to not mistake my post as being an ISIS sympathizier. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:55:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ISIS has bigger problems to deal with. Like Iran. Also, the guy who said Iran would let ISIS ally with them = . Iran = Shia, and ISIS is Sunni. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:07:43 PM EDT
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These thing will have implications for the '16 election cycle in the US. Timelines of both seem destined to collide.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:10:12 PM EDT
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I predict that Israel will stomp their dicks in without too much effort. this.. confirmed or not Israel IS a nuclear power and if push came to shove and the choice was being completely wiped out or unleash canned sunshine then Israel is going to start flattening cities. Every Muslim country with in range would be well advised to keep that ISIS shit under control. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:15:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have been suspecting the same thing. Once obama said the world was never safer, I knew the shit was about to hit. Liberals always say the opposite of the truth and get away with it. That's needs to be playing on the networks 24/7. |
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