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Link Posted: 7/24/2014 5:56:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:03:34 PM EDT
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Putins saber rattling could give  a good cover screen for China to  Push  into Taiwan.
Assuming a  PROACTIVE Defense posture,  Japan then  takes Sakhalin, while simultaneously "Testing" med range  multiple re-entry ballistics...

Next day king of Saud  assumes room temp, and   then  the entire middle east devolves into sectarian  mass murder.

Israel  glasses over  half of Syria,  parts of lebanon,  and a few cities   of Iran..

while  French muslims burn Paris to the ground, and  commit mass rape/ mutilation to the remaining 40 million French women....
 And then Chinese  deployed  Ebola streams over our South border on 100,000 infected child mules.
Shit goes downhill from there.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:08:04 PM EDT
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#Tranquility
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:09:26 PM EDT
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Is our fearless leader on vacation yet?

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Nope.  On fundraisers.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:10:14 PM EDT
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Good for Russia.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:15:31 PM EDT
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I just remembered...Wonder if this had anything to do with Ukraine's PM resigning earlier today. Probably decided to skip town early
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:25:13 PM EDT
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Thread title should read "Russia now actively liberating Ukraine"

Only Ron Putin can save Ukraine from the Svoboda/Pravy Sektor fascist and the UDAR party of austerity to German masters

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WAT ???

Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:25:17 PM EDT
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  Actually, I would be quite pleased if they took Paris and Berlin.  After how they have back stabbed us repeatedly since the end of WW2, the French deserve EVERY bad thing that comes their way.  I'd be rooting for the Brits though.
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That sucks.

Good thing this isn't our problem.


Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch.


Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but
it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine.

  Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC?

  Actually, I would be quite pleased if they took Paris and Berlin.  After how they have back stabbed us repeatedly since the end of WW2, the French deserve EVERY bad thing that comes their way.  I'd be rooting for the Brits though.


The fuck?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:27:30 PM EDT
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So much for that agreement we entered into to protect them if they gave up their nukes.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:30:16 PM EDT
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Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament..
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Again. No we did not promise to defend them.

 









Just where are you guys getting this from? Please show us the exact wording that says this. You cant because it doesn't exist. It states we will respect their borders and that no one uses nukes on them. The US is holding our end of the bargain as we are not invading or nuking them.




Russia still needs to be smacked down for sure, but Europe has no stomach for it. They would rather wait until it way out of hand. Like usual.


 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:35:31 PM EDT
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Nope.  On fundraisers.
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Nope.  On fundraisers.


Love to see his reaction when he gets the news on camera. Someone wispers in his ear. Mr POS putin is attacking Ukraine.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:36:13 PM EDT
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WAT ???

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WAT ???


He's just a Ruskie troll.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:38:22 PM EDT
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Putins saber rattling could give  a good cover screen for China to  Push  into Taiwan.
Assuming a  PROACTIVE Defense posture,  Japan then  takes Sakhalin, while simultaneously "Testing" med range  multiple re-entry ballistics...

Next day king of Saud  assumes room temp, and   then  the entire middle east devolves into sectarian  mass murder.

Israel  glasses over  half of Syria,  parts of lebanon,  and a few cities   of Iran..

while  French muslims burn Paris to the ground, and  commit mass rape/ mutilation to the remaining 40 million French women....
 And then Chinese  deployed  Ebola streams over our South border on 100,000 infected child mules.
Shit goes downhill from there.
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Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:39:53 PM EDT
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So much for that agreement we entered into to protect them if they gave up their nukes.
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And another. Please show us the agreement where we said we would protect them if Russian or anyone invades them?










Sorry for sounding like a dick about it but your statement is not based on reality. There is no defense agreement.






Don't get me wrong. Russia is prime for an epic ass kicking and I firmly believe it needs to be done. But you need the Europeans to agree. Until then, they will continue to spread like a cancer.



 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:41:08 PM EDT
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I still remember that book.
 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:42:28 PM EDT
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"Why?"

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  So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it?

France might get nukey, but other than that who is actually going to do anything if pressured? What Balkan country is going to pull an armored division with air support out of it's ass if it's invaded? Not a single one. Russia can roll on any country in the region East of Germany with the possible exceptions of Finland and Poland.
 


Poland can lay a BIG ass whoopin on if needs be.


A Pole was asked if he had to shoot a German and a Russian, whom would he shoot first, The reply: 'Naturally the German!'

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'Because duty comes first, then pleasure.'



Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:43:57 PM EDT
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Oh just wait till russia gets its "serious consequences" from Barry.





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something, something after an election.
 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:45:00 PM EDT
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These countries wanted Obama, because they knew he'd make America WEAK.   Well, if you want America weak, you'd better learn to protect yourselves.  These countries wanted to see us knocked down a couple pegs, so I'm having a hard time worrying if Putin's boot is on their neck.
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This is far bigger than a bunch of dolts in Europe who wanted their version of a Pax without the Americana.

Letting them get fucked by Russia doesn't help us.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:48:37 PM EDT
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Dang, I'm late. Has the Polish cavalry been cued up yet?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 6:54:58 PM EDT
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I salivate a little thinking of puting crosshairs on a Russian.
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Fuck mother Russia, all the hotties are in Ukraine. I volunteer to go first wave, more bugs to kill.


I salivate a little thinking of puting crosshairs on a Russian.


Wouldn't it be more fulfilling to garrotte one instead?  
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 7:02:52 PM EDT
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Well at least we know what the world looks like without American leadership.

While an ugly experiment and not one I supported, the information gleaned is fascinating.
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I know the myth of them charging tanks is bullshit but they did have some bad-ass cavalry throughout their history.

 











 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 7:15:17 PM EDT
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Putins saber rattling could give  a good cover screen for China to  Push  into Taiwan.
Assuming a  PROACTIVE Defense posture,  Japan then  takes Sakhalin, while simultaneously "Testing" med range  multiple re-entry ballistics...

Next day king of Saud  assumes room temp, and   then  the entire middle east devolves into sectarian  mass murder.

Israel  glasses over  half of Syria,  parts of lebanon,  and a few cities   of Iran..

while  French muslims burn Paris to the ground, and  commit mass rape/ mutilation to the remaining 40 million French women....
 And then Chinese  deployed  Ebola streams over our South border on 100,000 infected child mules.
Shit goes downhill from there.
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Holy fuck.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 7:17:00 PM EDT
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Bow down to your new Communist overlords. Nobody within a pussified Europe or United States is going to do a damn thing to stand up to the Russian bully.

Link Posted: 7/24/2014 7:20:40 PM EDT
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And no one is going to do jack shit about it.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 7:44:05 PM EDT
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But a tweet will be sent tomorrow.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 7:55:09 PM EDT
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Today Ukraine, tomorrow Poland, the day after that he'll be having croissants for breakfast in Paris.

Ronald Reagan wouldn't stand for this shit.
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Good thing this isn't our problem.





Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch.





Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but

it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine.



  Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC?


  Actually, I would be quite pleased if they took Paris and Berlin.  After how they have back stabbed us repeatedly since the end of WW2, the French deserve EVERY bad thing that comes their way.  I'd be rooting for the Brits though.





You'll be fightin' for 'em too at that point.











 
Not with Obama in office.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 7:57:19 PM EDT
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I bet those Ukranians feel like a bunch of suckers for giving up the bomb...
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 7:59:07 PM EDT
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Good thing this isn't our problem.





Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch.





Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but

it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine.



  Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC?


  Actually, I would be quite pleased if they took Paris and Berlin.  After how they have back stabbed us repeatedly since the end of WW2, the French deserve EVERY bad thing that comes their way.  I'd be rooting for the Brits though.





The fuck?

 



 
Read some history.  The French were hardly staunch allies in the Cold War.  We should have kept Germany, and gave France to the Soviets.
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lol'd. Let's keep our pipe dreams to ourselves. Russia will not be rolling into countries that fund one of the few productive parts of their economy, their energy sector. And if they did, you'd need a stopwatch to clock how fast their economy imploded.

The Risk forum is that way ---->
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That sucks.

Good thing this isn't our problem.


Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch.


Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but
it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine.

  Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC?


Cool, maybe they'll waste a shitload of money fighting insurgencies against people who hate them even more than you do.

I don't care much for Russia, so It'd be cool to see them bankrupt themselves again.


We have our own problems, but I guess it's okay to neglect our own country and waste lives fighting for European socialists.

  Oh yeah. No way we could secure our southern border AND honor our defense treaties. No way we could arm the Ukrainians AND cut welfare spending.

Oh, are you under the delusion that anyone in government wants to secure the border or cut welfare spending?

So yeah, let's let the goddamn Russians role through Europe, kill thousands and thousands of people, while making a mockery of our ability to enforce out alliances and establish themselves as the lone super power while we cower under the weight of debt incurred by Obamaphones and Cash for Clunkers.


lol'd. Let's keep our pipe dreams to ourselves. Russia will not be rolling into countries that fund one of the few productive parts of their economy, their energy sector. And if they did, you'd need a stopwatch to clock how fast their economy imploded.

The Risk forum is that way ---->

They is a slight flaw in your logic.  Russia takes countries it helps their economy.  No money coming in from gas sales?  Who cares, look at all this shit we just took.
Now we can sell our shit to other countries, sell their shit to other countries and who cares if a few million non-Russians freeze or starve to death?

A small bit of historical trivia.  When the German army went into Poland they had logistics for a whopping three weeks.  At some points they were using bombs made out of concrete and dynamite.  They some how managed to fight the world for another 6 years.
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I love hearing the complaints about fighting wars, coming from people who would never join the military.
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And why would I?

This is between Ukraine, the EU and Russia, at most.

I couldn't give a single fuck about a war between Socialistic Europeans and socialistic Russians.

You really don't have any idea what in the blue fuck you're talking about, do you?


This is why we have world wars instead of proxy wars and cold wars, as people can't conceive of things residing beyond the end of their noses. You pay either way, but some outcomes cost orders of magnitude more than others.


I love hearing the complaints about fighting wars, coming from people who would never join the military.


Oh, indeed.
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I bet those Ukranians feel like a bunch of suckers for giving up the bomb...
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I bet those Ukranians feel like a bunch of suckers for giving up the bomb...


I am surprised they haven't threatened to use Chernobyl as a giant dirty bomb.  Probably wouldn't be that hard to do.

As soon as the protests were effective, I said they should have blown all the bridges and overpasses into/out of Russia.  Would have had dire consequences on the economy, but wouldn't be in the same boat as they are now.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 8:07:35 PM EDT
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Assuming a  PROACTIVE Defense posture,  Japan then  takes Sakhalin, while simultaneously "Testing" med range  multiple re-entry ballistics...

Next day king of Saud  assumes room temp, and   then  the entire middle east devolves into sectarian  mass murder.

Israel  glasses over  half of Syria,  parts of lebanon,  and a few cities   of Iran..

while  French muslims burn Paris to the ground, and  commit mass rape/ mutilation to the remaining 40 million French women....
 And then Chinese  deployed  Ebola streams over our South border on 100,000 infected child mules.
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How did you get the script for the next Bracken novel?
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How do you understand what they are saying though? It's difficult for me to make out what they are saying with Putin's junk in their mouth.
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How do you understand what they are saying though? It's difficult for me to make out what they are saying with Putin's junk in their mouth.


It's easier to make out if you've read the script enough times.
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Oh, indeed.


In monetary terms, aside from the Chinese who pays for the wars?



 
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We can ask  Lugansk Cartridge Works in the Ukrane to fill the gap. Win-Win
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We can ask  Lugansk Cartridge Works in the Ukrane to fill the gap. Win-Win

I read the rebels have it.
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Wouldn't it be more fulfilling to garrotte one instead?  
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Fuck mother Russia, all the hotties are in Ukraine. I volunteer to go first wave, more bugs to kill.


I salivate a little thinking of puting crosshairs on a Russian.


Wouldn't it be more fulfilling to garrotte one instead?  


Oh, how my mind went places with that one.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 8:13:43 PM EDT
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Meh. Was the government of Ukraine really that much better than Russia anyway?

Seemed to me I read where they were doing a crappy job.  I don't really see how it changes much beside Putin trying to recreate the soviet union.


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Meh. Was the government of Ukraine really that much better than Russia anyway?

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Yeah, aside from that... No biggie.
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You eat a lot of paint chips?

Welcome to WW3.

I don't mean this minute or day...but that is exactly where we're headed.

Wish I had earned prior service so maybe I could get paid as contractor.

It's all good. I'll be Private Pile of Shit, and I will admin the fuck out of some paperwork!
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In monetary terms, aside from the Chinese who pays for the wars?
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Oh, indeed.

In monetary terms, aside from the Chinese who pays for the wars?


How much of the U.S. debt does China hold and will it matter when China goes belly up? It doesn't matter. You can pay less now or more (maybe everything) later, and undoing the damage may take generations either way. At least being able to export foreign policy with an eye toward preserving, and maintaining the ability to create, economic and political opportunities is a better option than allowing adversaries to remove those things from your grasp. You think we don't have money or an economy now? Just keep finding excuses not to maintain a bit of debt in the present in an effort to keep our means of correcting that available
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What about Finland?  Or Afghanistan?  How would the nazis have done without lend/lease?  Oh and tiny little Japan kicked some ass too.  

At the very least it will be a pyrrhic victory.
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cant wait for russia to be defeated yet again, by a small border country.  Talk about a paper tiger.

  They seem to have gotten what they wanted in Georgia.


What about Finland?  Or Afghanistan?  How would the nazis have done without lend/lease?  Oh and tiny little Japan kicked some ass too.  

At the very least it will be a pyrrhic victory.


Putin is playing chess Risk... Just setting up for his finishing move.
That Bastard will take Eurabia if he feels that he will get away with it.
He isn't a chump, and it just so happens that he started out in Russia.
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There's 200 + pgs of it here for your perusal brother.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1597203_BREAKING__Putin_orders_150_000_troops_in_western_Russia_on_alert_Drill.html

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There's 200 + pgs of it here for your perusal brother.

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Let me guess, its more pretending that intervention in a scenario is always equal to full-scale war? Or is it a different straw man?
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The Swedes share a border with the godless commie heathens in Russia.



Shirley, they are quaking in their clogs?
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Fuck mother Russia, all the hotties are in Ukraine. I volunteer to go first wave, more bugs to kill.




I salivate a little thinking of puting crosshairs on a Russian.




Wouldn't it be more fulfilling to garrotte one instead?  




 




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Let me guess, its more pretending that intervention in a scenario is always equal to full-scale war? Or is it a different straw man?
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Let me guess, its more pretending that intervention in a scenario is always equal to full-scale war? Or is it a different straw man?


Oh, no no... they've gone much much further than that.

Some of the most out-spoken Russophiles/GRU/FSB in that thread have taken to equating supporting Ukraine to supporting the Obama administration and being a sucker for Obama. As nonsensical as that is on its face, they throw it out there in hopes that the feeble minded who hate Obama will somehow find it palatable to support Russian interests in Ukraine.

Then there are the ones that continuously do mental gymnastics to avoid the glaring obviousness of Russia's involvement, to only deny, question, and point in any other direction possible than Putin.

The repetition of Russia propaganda flows from their keyboards like milk and honey, and Russia is held up to be the savior of Ukrainian freedom fighters oppressed by Nazi Right Secktor facists, Putin being a beacon of democracy and truth.

Then there is Hellmann who insists Ukraine isn't even a country, so Russia is fully entitled to rape it.

You can't make this shit up.
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I bet those Ukranians feel like a bunch of suckers for giving up the bomb...
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I bet those Ukranians feel like a bunch of suckers for giving up the bomb...
Yup

 
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Just wait  the  same day Germany begins offensive ops against Ukraine from the western front... China will cross the straits of Formosa, and re- occupy Taiwan. then it is GAME  Motherfucking ON.
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I'm here with the beer, baby!  Now, let's see what we can do about those ChiComs!

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Technically, I'm here with the Kinmen, rather than the beer. but I think you know what I mean.
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