User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 1:57:50 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Cool, maybe they'll waste a shitload of money fighting insurgencies against people who hate them even more than you do. I don't care much for Russia, so It'd be cool to see them bankrupt themselves again. We have our own problems, but I guess it's okay to neglect our own country and waste lives fighting for European socialists. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Cool, maybe they'll waste a shitload of money fighting insurgencies against people who hate them even more than you do. I don't care much for Russia, so It'd be cool to see them bankrupt themselves again. We have our own problems, but I guess it's okay to neglect our own country and waste lives fighting for European socialists. I agree that we should not get involved. Why start another war that only the military wants victory? The American people caved to the Iraqis Afghans and I see no reason they wouldn't cave when faced with the iron will of the Russian people. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 1:59:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, minority of Germans=all Europeans. Got it.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Cool, maybe they'll waste a shitload of money fighting insurgencies against people who hate them even more than you do. I don't care much for Russia, so It'd be cool to see them bankrupt themselves again. We have our own problems, but I guess it's okay to neglect our own country and waste lives fighting for European socialists. Oh yeah. No way we could secure our southern border AND honor our defense treaties. No way we could arm the Ukrainians AND cut welfare spending. Oh, are you under the delusion that anyone in government wants to secure the border or cut welfare spending? So yeah, let's let the goddamn Russians role through Europe, kill thousands and thousands of people, while making a mockery of our ability to enforce out alliances and establish themselves as the lone super power while we cower under the weight of debt incurred by Obamaphones and Cash for Clunkers. The same Europeans who believe America is the greatest threat to world peace that exists? Yeah, not really feeling too concerned about their well-being. The same Europeans who SWOONED over Obama? How ironic that their hero would turn his back on them. I can't believe the short memories you people have. So, minority of Germans=all Europeans. Got it. Oh, it wasn't just Germans. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 1:59:01 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
MORE SANCTIONS NOW!!!!!!!!  You need to put a hashtag on the frontend of that or it has no effect. Zip. Nada. Zero. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:00:17 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't give a fuck about socialistic Russians or socialistic Europeans. I'm not sure I understand why everyone is so fearful of nations with senseless economic policies. They can only do so much before they putter out and exhaust themselves economically. If we continue to waste money on welfare and foreign nonsense like this, we'll find that out as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
And why would I? This is between Ukraine, the EU and Russia, at most. I couldn't give a single fuck about a war between Socialistic Europeans and socialistic Russians. You really don't have any idea what in the blue fuck you're talking about, do you? I don't give a fuck about socialistic Russians or socialistic Europeans. I'm not sure I understand why everyone is so fearful of nations with senseless economic policies. They can only do so much before they putter out and exhaust themselves economically. If we continue to waste money on welfare and foreign nonsense like this, we'll find that out as well. Because all of the Central banks of 1st world countries are intertwined. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:00:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Snort 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:01:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Cool, maybe they'll waste a shitload of money fighting insurgencies against people who hate them even more than you do. I don't care much for Russia, so It'd be cool to see them bankrupt themselves again. We have our own problems, but I guess it's okay to neglect our own country and waste lives fighting for European socialists. Oh yeah. No way we could secure our southern border AND honor our defense treaties. No way we could arm the Ukrainians AND cut welfare spending. Oh, are you under the delusion that anyone in government wants to secure the border or cut welfare spending? So yeah, let's let the goddamn Russians role through Europe, kill thousands and thousands of people, while making a mockery of our ability to enforce out alliances and establish themselves as the lone super power while we cower under the weight of debt incurred by Obamaphones and Cash for Clunkers. The same Europeans who believe America is the greatest threat to world peace that exists? Yeah, not really feeling too concerned about their well-being. The same Europeans who SWOONED over Obama? How ironic that their hero would turn his back on them. I can't believe the short memories you people have. So you would turn your back on decades old alliances, sacrifice innocent lives and let the Russian Bear get away with murder, contrary to our national security and economic interests because of a public opinion poll and a couple rallies in Germany? We get the world we deserve, and when our inaction gets the Russkies confident enough to cross a line we actually do enforce, we get WWIII. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:01:53 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No, his comprehension is fine. You didn't go back on the highlighted statement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. lol lol @ your reading comprehension No, his comprehension is fine. You didn't go back on the highlighted statement. Peace at any cost. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:02:02 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Oh yeah. No way we could secure our southern border AND honor our defense treaties. No way we could arm the Ukrainians AND cut welfare spending. Oh, are you under the delusion that anyone in government wants to secure the border or cut welfare spending? So yeah, let's let the goddamn Russians role through Europe, kill thousands and thousands of people, while making a mockery of our ability to enforce out alliances and establish themselves as the lone super power while we cower under the weight of debt incurred by Obamaphones and Cash for Clunkers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Cool, maybe they'll waste a shitload of money fighting insurgencies against people who hate them even more than you do. I don't care much for Russia, so It'd be cool to see them bankrupt themselves again. We have our own problems, but I guess it's okay to neglect our own country and waste lives fighting for European socialists. Oh yeah. No way we could secure our southern border AND honor our defense treaties. No way we could arm the Ukrainians AND cut welfare spending. Oh, are you under the delusion that anyone in government wants to secure the border or cut welfare spending? So yeah, let's let the goddamn Russians role through Europe, kill thousands and thousands of people, while making a mockery of our ability to enforce out alliances and establish themselves as the lone super power while we cower under the weight of debt incurred by Obamaphones and Cash for Clunkers. lol'd. Let's keep our pipe dreams to ourselves. Russia will not be rolling into countries that fund one of the few productive parts of their economy, their energy sector. And if they did, you'd need a stopwatch to clock how fast their economy imploded. The Risk forum is that way ----> |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:02:26 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament. Ukraine's mistake was in trusting us. The US's word is no longer worth jack shit, and now they're going to pay for that decision. A lot of our allies have already learned the hard way, and more will continue to learn - we elect weasels and cowards, because that's precisely what a majority of Americans are these days. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:03:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Peace at any cost. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. lol lol @ your reading comprehension No, his comprehension is fine. You didn't go back on the highlighted statement. Peace at any cost. Peace in our time. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:03:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Snort Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Snort So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:04:09 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament. Ukraine's mistake was in trusting us. The US's word is no longer worth jack shit, and now they're going to pay for that decision. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament. Ukraine's mistake was in trusting us. The US's word is no longer worth jack shit, and now they're going to pay for that decision. Agreed. People shouldn't put too much faith in what the US government says. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:06:35 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Snort So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it? They'll be rolling over Berlin by Christmas and flying over DC by New Years. You just watch. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:08:27 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
lol @ your reading comprehension No, his comprehension is fine. You didn't go back on the highlighted statement. Peace at any cost. Peace in our time. http://www.bl.uk/learning/images/front%20page/appeasement-st.jpg Because the Russians are going to roll all over Europe... ITT we find out who the dopers really are. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:09:30 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Snort So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it? |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:09:39 PM EDT
[#16]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:10:13 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Putin will march through the whole country. No one is in a position to stop him. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:10:40 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They'll be rolling over Berlin by Christmas and flying over DC by New Years. You just watch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Snort So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it? They'll be rolling over Berlin by Christmas and flying over DC by New Years. You just watch. Well, GD has a pretty serious love affair with Putin, so I don't see the problem.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:10:48 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No more 7.62 x 39 for a while. At least from Russia. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:11:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Look out Sweden
 |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:11:19 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament. Ukraine's mistake was in trusting us. The US's word is no longer worth jack shit, and now they're going to pay for that decision. A lot of our allies have already learned the hard way, and more will continue to learn - we elect weasels and cowards, because that's precisely what a majority of Americans are these days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament. Ukraine's mistake was in trusting us. The US's word is no longer worth jack shit, and now they're going to pay for that decision. A lot of our allies have already learned the hard way, and more will continue to learn - we elect weasels and cowards, because that's precisely what a majority of Americans are these days. Stuff like honor and integrity are not biggies to Progressives. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:11:56 PM EDT
[#22]
  |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:12:12 PM EDT
[#23]
In related news, the Ukrainian government collapsed today, when two parties withdrew from the coalition. New parliamentary elections have to be held immediately. It's hard to see how these can be carried out in the eastern part of the country, with the fighting going on.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:14:11 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, are you under the delusion that anyone in government wants to secure the border or cut welfare spending? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Cool, maybe they'll waste a shitload of money fighting insurgencies against people who hate them even more than you do. I don't care much for Russia, so It'd be cool to see them bankrupt themselves again. We have our own problems, but I guess it's okay to neglect our own country and waste lives fighting for European socialists. Oh yeah. No way we could secure our southern border AND honor our defense treaties. No way we could arm the Ukrainians AND cut welfare spending. Oh, are you under the delusion that anyone in government wants to secure the border or cut welfare spending? So yeah, let's let the goddamn Russians role through Europe, kill thousands and thousands of people, while making a mockery of our ability to enforce out alliances and establish themselves as the lone super power while we cower under the weight of debt incurred by Obamaphones and Cash for Clunkers. The same Europeans who believe America is the greatest threat to world peace that exists? Yeah, not really feeling too concerned about their well-being. The same Europeans who SWOONED over Obama? How ironic that their hero would turn his back on them. I can't believe the short memories you people have. So you would turn your back on decades old alliances, sacrifice innocent lives and let the Russian Bear get away with murder, contrary to our national security and economic interests because of a public opinion poll and a couple rallies in Germany? We get the world we deserve, and when our inaction gets the Russkies confident enough to cross a line we actually do enforce, we get WWIII. These countries wanted Obama, because they knew he'd make America WEAK. Well, if you want America weak, you'd better learn to protect yourselves. These countries wanted to see us knocked down a couple pegs, so I'm having a hard time worrying if Putin's boot is on their neck. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:17:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Georgia, Ukraine, might as well let them have Poland too. Where do we start caring? Budapest? Prague? Berlin? Paris? London? Or do we just let Europe get over run by the Russkies and not care until they head for Alaska or Washington DC? Snort So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it? Absolutely not. Putin wants to reestablish the old Soviet borders. How ever you are arguing with a snowden fan and a peace at any cost advocate. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:20:19 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Stuff like honor and integrity are not biggies to Progressives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament. Ukraine's mistake was in trusting us. The US's word is no longer worth jack shit, and now they're going to pay for that decision. A lot of our allies have already learned the hard way, and more will continue to learn - we elect weasels and cowards, because that's precisely what a majority of Americans are these days. Stuff like honor and integrity are not biggies to Progressives. Much less the peace at all cost brigade. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:21:24 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You know that's what the Bastard is going to do today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Time to tee it up, Barry! You know that's what the Bastard is going to do today.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:22:21 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Much less the peace at all cost brigade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament. Ukraine's mistake was in trusting us. The US's word is no longer worth jack shit, and now they're going to pay for that decision. A lot of our allies have already learned the hard way, and more will continue to learn - we elect weasels and cowards, because that's precisely what a majority of Americans are these days. Stuff like honor and integrity are not biggies to Progressives. Much less the peace at all cost brigade. It's a shame that foreigners put any faith in our treaties and agreements after we outright defaulted and abandoned the Bretton Woods agreement. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:23:47 PM EDT
[#29]
I couldn't find a mention of it on msnbc's shitty website.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:24:07 PM EDT
[#30]
Not our issue.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:24:08 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Look out Sweden Contiguous maritime borders. Finland might get a bye on this one. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:26:38 PM EDT
[#32]
I see this coming.......
 |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:33:35 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
He can read?  I think you're just making shit up now.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Obama will read about it the papers tomorrow morning. He can read? I think you're just making shit up now. Well, he is very articulate.. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:35:59 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
France might get nukey, but other than that who is actually going to do anything if pressured? What Balkan country is going to pull an armored division with air support out of it's ass if it's invaded? Not a single one. Russia can roll on any country in the region East of Germany with the possible exceptions of Finland and Poland. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Snort So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it? France might get nukey, but other than that who is actually going to do anything if pressured? What Balkan country is going to pull an armored division with air support out of it's ass if it's invaded? Not a single one. Russia can roll on any country in the region East of Germany with the possible exceptions of Finland and Poland. Poland can lay a BIG ass whoopin on if needs be. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:37:21 PM EDT
[#35]
What's with all the Berlin / Paris / London hyperbole? Russia isn't really threatening anyone but Ukraine, and probably only the eastern portion of that. Sorry Ukraine, you got dealt a shitty hand with that neighbor of yours. I've got to catch up on "Falling Skies" now. Good luck wrestling that bear, I'll be back by later to check in and see how it went.
IOW: the fate of eastern Ukraine doesn't get me particularly animated. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:38:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Riiiight cuz the government never lies.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:39:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Sure am glad zero put those sanctions on saiga imports, it's working.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:39:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So yeah, let's let the goddamn Russians role through Europe, kill thousands and thousands of people, while making a mockery of our ability to enforce out alliances and establish themselves as the lone super power while we cower under the weight of debt incurred by Obamaphones and Cash for Clunkers. The same Europeans who believe America is the greatest threat to world peace that exists? Yeah, not really feeling too concerned about their well-being. The same Europeans who SWOONED over Obama? How ironic that their hero would turn his back on them. I can't believe the short memories you people have. So you would turn your back on decades old alliances, sacrifice innocent lives and let the Russian Bear get away with murder, contrary to our national security and economic interests because of a public opinion poll and a couple rallies in Germany? We get the world we deserve, and when our inaction gets the Russkies confident enough to cross a line we actually do enforce, we get WWIII. These countries wanted Obama, because they knew he'd make America WEAK. Well, if you want America weak, you'd better learn to protect yourselves. These countries wanted to see us knocked down a couple pegs, so I'm having a hard time worrying if Putin's boot is on their neck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Cool, maybe they'll waste a shitload of money fighting insurgencies against people who hate them even more than you do. I don't care much for Russia, so It'd be cool to see them bankrupt themselves again. We have our own problems, but I guess it's okay to neglect our own country and waste lives fighting for European socialists. Oh yeah. No way we could secure our southern border AND honor our defense treaties. No way we could arm the Ukrainians AND cut welfare spending. So yeah, let's let the goddamn Russians role through Europe, kill thousands and thousands of people, while making a mockery of our ability to enforce out alliances and establish themselves as the lone super power while we cower under the weight of debt incurred by Obamaphones and Cash for Clunkers. The same Europeans who believe America is the greatest threat to world peace that exists? Yeah, not really feeling too concerned about their well-being. The same Europeans who SWOONED over Obama? How ironic that their hero would turn his back on them. I can't believe the short memories you people have. So you would turn your back on decades old alliances, sacrifice innocent lives and let the Russian Bear get away with murder, contrary to our national security and economic interests because of a public opinion poll and a couple rallies in Germany? We get the world we deserve, and when our inaction gets the Russkies confident enough to cross a line we actually do enforce, we get WWIII. These countries wanted Obama, because they knew he'd make America WEAK. Well, if you want America weak, you'd better learn to protect yourselves. These countries wanted to see us knocked down a couple pegs, so I'm having a hard time worrying if Putin's boot is on their neck. That is a good point |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:40:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
What's with all the Berlin / Paris / London hyperbole? Russia isn't really threatening anyone but Ukraine, and probably only the eastern portion of that. Sorry Ukraine, you got dealt a shitty hand with that neighbor of yours. I've got to catch up on "Falling Skies" now. Good luck wrestling that bear, I'll be back by later to check in and see how it went. IOW: the fate of eastern Ukraine doesn't get me particularly animated. Irony |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:40:14 PM EDT
[#40]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:41:27 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it was only a matter of time. Would have been avoided if Obama wasn't a pussy and had deployed assets to Ukraine to "secure crash area".
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:41:58 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Poland can lay a BIG ass whoopin on if needs be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Snort So you think the Russkies will just take Ukraine and let that be the end of it? France might get nukey, but other than that who is actually going to do anything if pressured? What Balkan country is going to pull an armored division with air support out of it's ass if it's invaded? Not a single one. Russia can roll on any country in the region East of Germany with the possible exceptions of Finland and Poland. Poland can lay a BIG ass whoopin on if needs be. A Pole was asked if he had to shoot a German and a Russian, whom would he shoot first, The reply: 'Naturally the German!' "Why?" 'Because duty comes first, then pleasure.' |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:45:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
In related news, the Ukrainian government collapsed today, when two parties withdrew from the coalition. New parliamentary elections have to be held immediately. It's hard to see how these can be carried out in the eastern part of the country, with the fighting going on. Prediction is the Pro-West parties will pull more votes and ultimately wipe out any power of the Communist/Russian leaning parties, the first time since independence. The Russians not allowing these Eastern Ukrainians to vote only hurts their cause and this Russian invasion pisses off more of the Ukrainian population that were on the fence. In the end, the population will bow to whoever will take care of them. We've now crossed into the time where the promise of financial security outweighs the threat of the gun. Unfortunately, Putin learned from his mistake of financing a country full of squatters so now he's had to resort to old tactics. Ukrainians are accustomed to taking cold showers so the threat of turning off the gas isn't going to have the affect on them that it would in the rest of Western Europe. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:45:55 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I am so happy he is our leader. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Obama is giving a speech in Ca right now about how companies are leaving Ca to escape their share of the heavy tax burden. Basically ragging on companies for not wanting to stay to pay. I am so happy he is our leader. It will be fixed when he issues Directive 10-289. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:47:01 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well, he is very articulate.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Obama will read about it the papers tomorrow morning. He can read? I think you're just making shit up now. Well, he is very articulate.. And clean! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:48:01 PM EDT
[#46]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:56:57 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's a shame that foreigners put any faith in our treaties and agreements after we outright defaulted and abandoned the Bretton Woods agreement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Good thing this isn't our problem. Just kidding, John McCain and Lindsey Graham said it is our problem. Apparently Ukraine is somehow America's front porch. Yeah, we're in shitloads of debt and have hordes of illegal immigrants running all over our border and collecting welfare, but it's important for us to dig ourselves even deeper in debt so we can protect the borders of Ukraine. Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament. Ukraine's mistake was in trusting us. The US's word is no longer worth jack shit, and now they're going to pay for that decision. A lot of our allies have already learned the hard way, and more will continue to learn - we elect weasels and cowards, because that's precisely what a majority of Americans are these days. Stuff like honor and integrity are not biggies to Progressives. Much less the peace at all cost brigade. It's a shame that foreigners put any faith in our treaties and agreements after we outright defaulted and abandoned the Bretton Woods agreement. We should never have been a part of that. It Brought about the IMF. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:59:45 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not our issue. I mean look at the determination on this guy. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 2:59:54 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
We should never have been a part of that. It Brought about the IMF. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Intervening isn't really practical, but I'd like to point out that we did promise to defend them in precisely this circumstance in exchange for their nuclear disarmament. Ukraine's mistake was in trusting us. The US's word is no longer worth jack shit, and now they're going to pay for that decision. A lot of our allies have already learned the hard way, and more will continue to learn - we elect weasels and cowards, because that's precisely what a majority of Americans are these days. Stuff like honor and integrity are not biggies to Progressives. Much less the peace at all cost brigade. It's a shame that foreigners put any faith in our treaties and agreements after we outright defaulted and abandoned the Bretton Woods agreement. We should never have been a part of that. It Brought about the IMF. Agreed |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/24/2014 3:03:22 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Cue the soundtrack to "The Empire Strikes Back". Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Putin will march through the whole country. No one is in a position to stop him. Cue the soundtrack to "The Empire Strikes Back".
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
