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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:30:16 AM EDT
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She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant -- I'm going to have a baby,'" the man, who was identified as Tom Greer, told the TV station.





He said he fired two rounds and that a man who was with her fled the scene. "I shot her twice. She best be dead," Greer said.










While I'm sure the law won't support this, I say good shot. Fuck thieves.




 
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Good shoot.
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EDIT TO ADD:  I might feel differently if you told me he was 30 years old, in good physical shape, and that the male intruded wasn't present.  But as-is, with two assailants vs. an 80-year-old, I'm glad the dude had a means to defend himself.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:32:28 AM EDT
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Takin' out the trash --  2 generations at a time.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:32:29 AM EDT
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Unarmed and pregnant?

Probably legally justified, but pretty fucked up regardless.



Read the article, the homeowner is at the bare minimum going to get assraped in a civil suit.


Good shoot.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:32:49 AM EDT
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Good shoot.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:33:02 AM EDT
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Yup and, in before the butt-hurt

ETA: Too late...
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:33:06 AM EDT
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grumpycatgood.jpg
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:33:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:33:55 AM EDT
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You're Goddamned right it's fucked up. What kind of mother would risk her child's life like that?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:34:04 AM EDT
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They broke into his house, tackled him, and tried to take his shit. What's fucked up?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:34:20 AM EDT
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Good shoot.



But it's CA...so he's probably fucked.
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I'm not sure how I feel about this one.





 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:34:57 AM EDT
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If she really cared about the babies future she would be robbing people.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:35:18 AM EDT
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This is why I like grumpy old people.  They don't give a damn.
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I know right.  If you are pregnant, you have to know the risks you are putting your baby at by breaking into an occupied home.  Those risks came to fruition.  

If you want to blame someone, blame the dead mom.  She killed her baby, not the home owner.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:35:25 AM EDT
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'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant -- I'm going to have a baby,'"
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So why the fuck are you breaking into houses?????
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:35:28 AM EDT
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With junkie robbers as parents, was the kid going to become a model citizen?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:35:53 AM EDT
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What he needs to do is keep his fucking mouth shut
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chances were very, very slim...



 
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California has a castle doctrine, but a lot of it depends on the DA in your county and how they chose to apply it. Long Beach is in LA County, so he maybe screwed.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:36:12 AM EDT
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She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant -- I'm going to have a baby,'" the man, who was identified as Tom Greer, told the TV station.

He said he fired two rounds and that a man who was with her fled the scene. "I shot her twice. She best be dead," Greer said.



While I'm sure the law won't support this, I say good shot. Fuck thieves.
 
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Sounds justified.  But people need to learn to keep their mouths shut.  It will probably bring him more scrunty and grief just by him saying that.  He should have either said nothing or stated they were trying to kill me and I defended myself.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:36:27 AM EDT
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So why the fuck are you breaking into houses?????
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So why the fuck are you breaking into houses?????


I think the homeowner's response was "No, you aren't."
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Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:37:15 AM EDT
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I don't see this going well for the 80 y/o in LA County.  He will not make a good impression on the stand if it goes to trial.  

Vol Manslaughter, no jail time?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:37:57 AM EDT
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They broke into his house, tackled him, and tried to take his shit. What's fucked up?
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Probably legally justified, but pretty fucked up regardless.




They broke into his house, tackled him, and tried to take his shit. What's fucked up?

Yeah, I made the mistake of not reading the article first.


The homeowner is probably going to get raped in a civil court.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:39:50 AM EDT
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FPNI, but I bet he dies in prison.
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Sounds justified.  But people need to learn to keep their mouths shut.  It will probably bring him more scrunty and grief just by him saying that.  He should have either said nothing or stated they were trying to kill me and I defended myself.
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She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant -- I'm going to have a baby,'" the man, who was identified as Tom Greer, told the TV station.

He said he fired two rounds and that a man who was with her fled the scene. "I shot her twice. She best be dead," Greer said.



While I'm sure the law won't support this, I say good shot. Fuck thieves.
 



Sounds justified.  But people need to learn to keep their mouths shut.  It will probably bring him more scrunty and grief just by him saying that.  He should have either said nothing or stated they were trying to kill me and I defended myself.


This.  STFU if you have to use lethal force.  Talk to a lawyer and nobody else.  Even if it's patently obvious there's no grey area.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:43:30 AM EDT
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Things to avoid while pregnant:

-Smoking

-Drinking more than the occasional glass of wine

-Drugs without specific advice from a physician

-Armed robbery

-Excessively strenuous exercise

-Fasting


There's a few more but that covers most of it.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:43:53 AM EDT
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Depends on the skin color of all parties involved.





 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:44:04 AM EDT
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He should have kept his mouth shut. Possibly talked himself into jail.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:44:08 AM EDT
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bad shoot ...going to jail for ever!!! This is California and there fucked up laws.What you think is  right is wrong
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:44:50 AM EDT
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So why the fuck are you breaking into houses?????
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'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant -- I'm going to have a baby,'"


So why the fuck are you breaking into houses?????

Trying to use the inhibition decent people have against hurting pregnant women against their victims.

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Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:44:50 AM EDT
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Good shoot.

ETA: With a .22 Revolver. Very Good shoot!  
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:46:12 AM EDT
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Zero fucks given.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:46:40 AM EDT
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Unarmed and pregnant?

Probably legally justified, but pretty fucked up regardless.



Read the article, the homeowner is at the bare minimum going to get assraped in a civil suit.


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"I shot her twice. She best be dead," Greer said.

While I agree that it was a good shoot, this guy needs to stop talking to reporters and the police.  He may say something he's going to regret later.
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this.

like going back into time to eradicate a known problem - Terminator Style
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Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:50:35 AM EDT
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I'll leave my personal feelings out of this.

Two points:
This is an object lesson in keeping your mouth shut after a self defense shooting.
How could he know she was really pregnant, not just trying to escape the consequences of her actions? Not trying to be a wiseass here, but I was taught the rule that you never ask a woman with a BIG belly, "When is the baby due?", unless you can see the kids head coming out. The risks far out weigh the rewards in inquiring.

edit for grammar corrections.

2nd edit for proof of 2nd point (Shit! you can't make this stuff up!)
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1648002_This_PC__hit_has_gone_far_enough__4_YO_kid_permanently_86_d_from_donut_shop_.html

Quote from the above link for TLDR crowd:
"Denham said her son, Justin Otero, asked a woman at the doughnut shop if she had a baby in her belly."
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:51:26 AM EDT
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Abortion is legal
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:51:33 AM EDT
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She SAID she was pregnant, no idea if she was showing, could have been her trying to get the upper hand. Guy is 80, injured, rushed facing 2 attackers, I see no issue with him shooting.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:52:10 AM EDT
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Sucks about the unborn kid, but fuck the trashy bitch.  Too bad he wasn't able to get the guy that was with her.
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I rost.

 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:53:56 AM EDT
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I fully support this man defending himself from violent criminals.

Were the police there to defend him?  Nope, not when fresh donuts are on sale or there are newpaper delivery folks to shoot.



How is the state supposed to raise taxes and show how needed they are if guys like him take the law into their own hands?  He is now on the state's 10 most dangerous list.




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Maybe.  Maybe not, but I agree.  Keep your mouth shut.  
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No shit.

Stay home and have more.

Big Daddy "O" will take care of you.
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Unarmed and pregnant?



Probably legally justified, but pretty fucked up regardless.






Read the article, the homeowner is at the bare minimum going to get assraped in a civil suit.





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I don't see how.




They were in his home, and physically attacked him.




Don't get much more good shoot than that.




If they find the other guy, nail him with two counts of felony murder.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:56:42 AM EDT
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This. In big, flashing LED letters.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:57:52 AM EDT
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Her fault for robbing people while pregnant.  If anything SHE killed her own baby.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 9:58:07 AM EDT
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Guess he didn't hear the part about........

IF, you're ever involved in a shooting....LAWYER UP.

Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 10:00:02 AM EDT
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Good shoot.

Don't fuck with people's stuff.
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