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Posted: 7/24/2014 3:17:51 AM EDT
This is an email I got after replying to craigslist ad. It a link to a photo album with pics of the bike. It's smells so bad of a scam but my greed is powerful. A Heritage Softail for 2500 bucks.



Hi,

Thank you for contacting me regarding my 1996 Harley-Davidson Heritage Softail Nostalgia  that I have for sale. This bike is in great shape (10,155 miles).It has no damage, no scratches, dents or hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained and hasn't been involved in any accident...I do have the title, clear. I am selling it at this final price of $2,500 because my husband died 1 month ago (he had a heart attack) and it brings me bad memories and that's the reason I want to sell it a.s.a.p.
Me and my daughter decided to sell the house and so we moved to my brother in Oklahoma City OK, trying to start a new life.

I want to use eBay services for the safety of both of us so if you're interested in purchasing this bike just email me with your full name, address including the zip code and phone number, so I can notify eBay that you are selected as my possible buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure.

PS: More pics here:

I look forward to hearing from you

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Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:20:20 AM EDT
[#1]
SCAM...
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:20:41 AM EDT
[#2]
I don't know, could go either way.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:22:17 AM EDT
[#3]
price too low and full name address crap raises huge red flags.   If going through fleebay just hit the buy button. (you said replying to craigslist ad and their reply says fleebay)
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:22:37 AM EDT
[#4]
Send him the money through Paypal gift.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:22:59 AM EDT
[#5]
Are both of your kidneys healthy?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:28:39 AM EDT
[#6]
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My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.

Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.

The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:29:46 AM EDT
[#7]
Tell "her" you will bring cash and pick it up, no need for fleabay services.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:31:49 AM EDT
[#8]
Of course it is a scam.

Why would the seller want to pay the paypal and ebay fees when you could hand them $2500 in cash tax free?

Next thing you know they had to ride the bike to some far off place for a family emergency and they will ship it.



You get jerked around and are out a bunch of money trying to get a deal to good to be true.



Tell them you will meet them at the local police station with the money and they should bring the bike and title.




Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:33:08 AM EDT
[#9]
Give them some burner phone #

Wait for "EBay" to call and ask for all your account details..

Unleash the cockporN..

??

Profit.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:34:42 AM EDT
[#10]
Scam. You don't sell your significant others items when they die because they remind you of them. I keep things that remind me of the person.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:41:50 AM EDT
[#11]
Why would she need his personal details at all? Just create a listing, sit on it and don't post it until a tentative deal is made. Post it and immediately email the link to the prospective buyer.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:42:41 AM EDT
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Scam. You don't sell your significant others items when they die because they remind you of them. I keep things that remind me of the person.
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Some people do.. Things like motorcycles and old cars get sold off pretty often actually. No use for it and some say "reminds them too much" of the loved one..

What you don't do is tell people about the death, moving, where you live now and who with...

They are fishing for a phone number.. Then "EBay" will call him to verify the account / payment or something and try and get a CC number or a fee of some sort.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:43:08 AM EDT
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Scam. You don't sell your significant others items when they die because they remind you of them. I keep things that remind me of the person.
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$2500 buys a lot of meth.

 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:44:16 AM EDT
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My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.

Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.

The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."
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Send him the money through Paypal gift.


My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.

Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.

The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."



Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:13:24 AM EDT
[#15]
While not as bad as some I have seen the English is not correct in several sentences or is awkward. Complete SCAM
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:24:16 AM EDT
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While not as bad as some I have seen the English is not correct in several sentences or is awkward. Complete SCAM
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Yep, some nigerian took a few english classes. It doesn't sound right.

Also, too much personal information from the "seller". Who would put all that in an e-mail to a stranger? THey're trying to sound vulnerable and trustworthy. Obvious scam.




However, this has potential to be an epic thread. Troll the fuck out of them and post the saga.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:25:12 AM EDT
[#17]
"so I can notify eBay that you are selected as my possible buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure"

That's the proof that it is a scam. Ebay is not going to call anybody and explain "the entire procedure"
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:26:59 AM EDT
[#18]
Scam.  But buy a burner phone and have fun!  
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:28:04 AM EDT
[#19]
For starters, run the pics through Google Images.  If they are random internet pics, you'll most likely be able to find out.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:28:26 AM EDT
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Scam.  But buy a burner phone and have fun!  
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Google Voice.  No need for a new phone.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:28:33 AM EDT
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My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.

Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.

The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."
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Send him the money through Paypal gift.


My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.

Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.

The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."

if you think this is real, I have a bridge to sell you. I have never heard of ebay ever contacting anyone for a sale unless you don't pay. You should just meet in person and hand them cash.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:28:58 AM EDT
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My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.

Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.

The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."
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Send him the money through Paypal gift.


My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.

Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.

The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."




Seriously man, c'mon.  You gotta be smarter than this.  


FWIW, eBay doesn't have a "payment service" such as these Nigerians are suggesting.  Call them and ask.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:35:04 AM EDT
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What regular people see:

Thank you for contacting me regarding my 1996 Harley-Davidson Heritage Softail Nostalgia  that I have for sale.



What programmers see:

Thank you for contacting me regarding my $ItemNameVar  that I have for sale.

Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:37:36 AM EDT
[#24]
Definetly a scam. However, have fun with it and scam the scammers.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:38:27 AM EDT
[#25]
The "woman" is able to describe this bike all too well for somebody that has no interest in keeping it.  Way too many details.  Throw a curve ball and say you are going to be in the area on business and would like to see it in person.  See what kind of a response you get to THAT.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:40:50 AM EDT
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Seriously man, c'mon.  You gotta be smarter than this.  


FWIW, eBay doesn't have a "payment service" such as these Nigerians are suggesting.  Call them and ask.
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Send him the money through Paypal gift.


My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.

Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.

The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."




Seriously man, c'mon.  You gotta be smarter than this.  


FWIW, eBay doesn't have a "payment service" such as these Nigerians are suggesting.  Call them and ask.


This. I always thought people with an IQ over 56 could spot these scams...Guess not.

Hey by the way, you won the Canadian Lottery! Congrats
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:42:03 AM EDT
[#27]
100% scam.

When you see how OP is so very tempted to take the bait in this one, you can understand how people you thought would know better get scammed.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:42:38 AM EDT
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For starters, run the pics through Google Images.  If they are random internet pics, you'll most likely be able to find out.
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Actually it's probable that the pics are legit even though this whole thing screams "scam." It reminds me of the scams that gained traction 5 years or so ago, where the scammer would take pics of a random vehicle, even copying down the VIN, and claim to be the owner, needing to unload it for a song before deploying to AFG.

Earlier poster nailed it, btw: peeBay ain't calling anyone to explain any entire procedure.

Best lulz here would be to act real interested, be as accommodating as possible, but politely and naively insist on seeing the bike in person at some location set by you. See how far you can keep them stringing along less and less plausible excuses.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:55:04 AM EDT
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The "woman" is able to describe this bike all too well for somebody that has no interest in keeping it.  Way too many details.  Throw a curve ball and say you are going to be in the area on business and would like to see it in person.  See what kind of a response you get to THAT.
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I can already hear it now...  "Since we've already moved it was dropped off with eBay's shipping people and they have it packed up and ready to ship.  Don't worry though, it's guaranteed to be as described or they will refund your money."  



One of my customers went through this same thing a couple years ago.  He was stationed in AFG and getting close to coming home, so he started looking for a 65-66 Mustang fastback.  He was ready to pull the trigger on buying one, and had been communicating with a "seller" exactly like this.  He forwarded me the emails from this "lady" and it was the same kind of deal, only this "lady" had deployed overseas and had left her car with the eBay shipping people since she needed to get rid of it so quickly.  It was already packaged up in a container for shipping, so it wouldn't be possible for him to send someone to inspect it, but that he didn't need to worry because they'd gladly pick it back up if he wasn't happy.  It was all I could do to get this guy to understand that there was no way in hell this "lady" would have had trouble selling a $30,000 car for the $6,000 she was asking.  I even sent him eBay links to rusted out 65-66 Mustang fastback parts cars that had sold for more than what this "lady" was asking, but he still didn't want to believe it.

Link Posted: 7/24/2014 5:19:35 AM EDT
[#30]
This is a scam. I guarantee it.



Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:08:54 AM EDT
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100% scam.

When you see how OP is so very tempted to take the bait in this one, you can understand how people you thought would know better get scammed.
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Avarice is a powerful emotion. This scam is laid out better than any I have ever seen. The bike photos, the proper English and grammar.
I sent a follow up email and told them I'd pay cash, on site and they insisted on shipping the bike...

I live 30 miles away.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:14:30 AM EDT
[#32]
I can't believe you even have to ask.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:22:53 AM EDT
[#33]
The fact that her tone seems to indicate that she thinks you already think it's a scam makes me think it's a scam.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:42:48 AM EDT
[#34]
That is almost word-for-word the same as when I tried to buy a car on craigslist.

I got far enough to get a spoof email from eBay motors. I looked at the header info, and it was NOT from eBay. I figured it was a scam, but that was the proof.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:42:55 AM EDT
[#35]
Total scam, I almost got scammed on a 4 wheeler a few years ago. They even sent me the address of local WEstern Union to send them the funds. They had an EBAY page that looked legit, so I called EBAY and they said there was no listing and it was a scam.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:44:57 AM EDT
[#36]
If you don't know without guessing that is a scam you ned help.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:47:34 AM EDT
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This is an email I got after replying to craigslist ad. It a link to a photo album with pics of the bike. It's smells so bad of a scam but my greed is powerful. A Heritage Softail for 2500 bucks.



Hi,

Thank you for contacting me regarding my 1996 Harley-Davidson Heritage Softail Nostalgia  that I have for sale. This bike is in great shape (10,155 miles).It has no damage, no scratches, dents or hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained and hasn't been involved in any accident...I do have the title, clear. I am selling it at this final price of $2,500 because my husband died 1 month ago (he had a heart attack) and it brings me bad memories and that's the reason I want to sell it a.s.a.p.
Me and my daughter decided to sell the house and so we moved to my brother in Oklahoma City OK, trying to start a new life.

I want to use eBay services for the safety of both of us so if you're interested in purchasing this bike just email me with your full name, address including the zip code and phone number, so I can notify eBay that you are selected as my possible buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure.

PS: More pics here:

I look forward to hearing from you

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Here are your tell tale signs.  VERY COMMON scammer language.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:50:48 AM EDT
[#38]
I have a BBQ trailer up for sale right now,  about 1/2 my replies are scammers.  Does someone really expect me to mail it to him in Wisconsin?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:52:58 AM EDT
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Tell "her" you will bring cash and pick it up, no need for fleabay services.
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This.  Then count the reasons that wont work for "her"
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 11:55:12 AM EDT
[#40]
Either:



A) It's a scam



OR



B) It's haunted.



Either way, you should probably pass.
Link Posted: 7/25/2014 5:21:18 AM EDT
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My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.



Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.



The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."
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Send him the money through Paypal gift.




My ebay address is my work address and if I used PayPal (not gift) I'd have buyer protection. I got rescued from an 800 buck bad deal one time using PayPal. All I'd be giving up is my phone number.



Should I fo? What have I got to lose at this point? Just my phone number.



The link to the pics looked legit. A dozen or so pics of the bike, a pic of two helmets and a windscreen and the album info said "added three weeks ago."
What part of SCAM do you NOT understand? You will NEVER get that motorcycle for $2500. NEVER. Do you understand NEVER??? It's a freaking SCAM. Just walk AWAY.







 
Link Posted: 7/25/2014 5:27:22 AM EDT
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Scam, hands down. No one volunteers that kind of info for a craigslist deal and then wants to proceed thru Ebay.

Scam.
Link Posted: 7/25/2014 5:31:19 AM EDT
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I have a BBQ trailer up for sale right now,  about 1/2 my replies are scammers.  Does someone really expect me to mail it to him in Wisconsin?
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Yeah. Just use one of those mailing boxes you get from the PO and send it priority mail.


OP: If it sounds too good it generally is.
Link Posted: 7/25/2014 5:32:15 AM EDT
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Avarice is a powerful emotion. This scam is laid out better than any I have ever seen. The bike photos, the proper English and grammar.
I sent a follow up email and told them I'd pay cash, on site and they insisted on shipping the bike...

I live 30 miles away.
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100% scam.

When you see how OP is so very tempted to take the bait in this one, you can understand how people you thought would know better get scammed.



Avarice is a powerful emotion. This scam is laid out better than any I have ever seen. The bike photos, the proper English and grammar.
I sent a follow up email and told them I'd pay cash, on site and they insisted on shipping the bike...

I live 30 miles away.


Tell her to meet you in person, at a police station if it makes them feel more safe.
If they decline, move on.
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