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Compare it to alcohol. Perfectly legal to posess, purchase, and consume. In private, it's generally legal (but not very wise) to shoot, handle, and carry firearms. In public, the opposite is generally true.
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Quoted: Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. View Quote Do you sacrifice your right to self defense if you're drunk or high? |
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Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, and this is the reason doper threads should be locked on a pro 2A forum. You are aware that discussing the matter doesn't automatically saturate your bloodstream with THC, correct? Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. Who takes blood draws from legit self defense shootings? |
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No different than talking about other idiotic illegal activities, should be locked. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, and this is the reason doper threads should be locked on a pro 2A forum. You are aware that discussing the matter doesn't automatically saturate your bloodstream with THC, correct? No different than talking about other idiotic illegal activities, should be locked. So we should not talk about the American Revolution? Because that was illegal as fuck to the Crown. |
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You're adorable. I think it's good publicity. The sooner the nominally pro-gun side sheds this image of social conservatism hanging around its neck, the sooner the pro-gun youth of today might actually start voting for people who will repeal some gun laws. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So 14'r I guess you think it would be OK for people to get on here and talk about how the think that other illegal activities should be legal also? I think people should be able to manufacture machine guns with no government regulation. So do you think it would be appropriate if someone made a thread about how murder, assault, theft, etc should be legal here? No difference, they are criminal acts just like using drugs and owning guns. Bad publicity for the gun community. You're adorable. I think it's good publicity. The sooner the nominally pro-gun side sheds this image of social conservatism hanging around its neck, the sooner the pro-gun youth of today might actually start voting for people who will repeal some gun laws. Whatever if your OK with loser druggies giving up their rights then OK. |
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Marijuana is not a drug, it's a plant. It should be treated just like alcohol. as is cocaine .... touche As is alcohol. My Kentucky Bourbon is made from the finest American corn, and my Polish vodka is made from glorious potato. |
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I have no problem with pot. I have a huge problem with pro-legalization.
The pro-legalization crowd will vote democrat all the way down the line. |
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Quoted: So do you think it would be appropriate if someone made a thread about how murder, assault, theft, etc should be legal here? No difference, they are criminal acts just like using drugs and owning guns. Bad publicity for the gun community. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So 14'r I guess you think it would be OK for people to get on here and talk about how the think that other illegal activities should be legal also? I think people should be able to manufacture machine guns with no government regulation. So do you think it would be appropriate if someone made a thread about how murder, assault, theft, etc should be legal here? No difference, they are criminal acts just like using drugs and owning guns. Bad publicity for the gun community. Someone at home smoking a joint affects only that person. And also pot is legal in 2 states, you examples are not.
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Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. Do you sacrifice your right to self defense if you're drunk or high? Good question, and you know the answer. So why ask ? |
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Last I checked murder, assault, theft, etc were crimes that affected others. Someone at home smoking a joint affects only that person. And also pot is legal in 2 states, you examples are not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So 14'r I guess you think it would be OK for people to get on here and talk about how the think that other illegal activities should be legal also? I think people should be able to manufacture machine guns with no government regulation. So do you think it would be appropriate if someone made a thread about how murder, assault, theft, etc should be legal here? No difference, they are criminal acts just like using drugs and owning guns. Bad publicity for the gun community. Last I checked murder, assault, theft, etc were crimes that affected others. Someone at home smoking a joint affects only that person. And also pot is legal in 2 states, you examples are not. Pot/dope is still illegal on a federal level hence using and possessing/purchasing a firearm is illegal. Crime is crime and doesn't go well will a pro 2A community. My example still stands. |
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Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, and this is the reason doper threads should be locked on a pro 2A forum. You are aware that discussing the matter doesn't automatically saturate your bloodstream with THC, correct? Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. And yet, on the "17th day" or even the next day, you would not be under the influence of it. |
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So we should not talk about the American Revolution? Because that was illegal as fuck to the Crown. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, and this is the reason doper threads should be locked on a pro 2A forum. You are aware that discussing the matter doesn't automatically saturate your bloodstream with THC, correct? No different than talking about other idiotic illegal activities, should be locked. So we should not talk about the American Revolution? Because that was illegal as fuck to the Crown. To aid my fellow posters here on AR15.com (I'm new - it's the least I can do), I've devised a tango1978-approved list of the following topics that should not be discussed on a gun forum: * state gun laws we don't like * federal firearm regulations we don't like * the NFA * raw milk * parking in handicap spaces * traffic violations * removing mattress tags * jaywalking * getting out of jury duty * and of course - the devil's weed. Failure to comply will result in giving gun owners a bad name. And if tango had his way - beheading. |
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To aid my fellow posters here on AR15.com (I'm new - it's the least I can do), I've devised a tango1978-approved list of the following topics that should not be discussed on a gun forum: * state gun laws we don't like * federal firearm regulations we don't like * the NFA * raw milk * parking in handicap spaces * traffic violations * removing mattress tags * jaywalking * getting out of jury duty * and of course - the devil's weed. Failure to comply will result in giving gun owners a bad name. And if tango had his way - beheading. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, and this is the reason doper threads should be locked on a pro 2A forum. You are aware that discussing the matter doesn't automatically saturate your bloodstream with THC, correct? No different than talking about other idiotic illegal activities, should be locked. So we should not talk about the American Revolution? Because that was illegal as fuck to the Crown. To aid my fellow posters here on AR15.com (I'm new - it's the least I can do), I've devised a tango1978-approved list of the following topics that should not be discussed on a gun forum: * state gun laws we don't like * federal firearm regulations we don't like * the NFA * raw milk * parking in handicap spaces * traffic violations * removing mattress tags * jaywalking * getting out of jury duty * and of course - the devil's weed. Failure to comply will result in giving gun owners a bad name. And if tango had his way - beheading. teeners |
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And yet, on the "17th day" or even the next day, you would not be under the influence of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, and this is the reason doper threads should be locked on a pro 2A forum. You are aware that discussing the matter doesn't automatically saturate your bloodstream with THC, correct? Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. And yet, on the "17th day" or even the next day, you would not be under the influence of it. Agreed. |
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Quoted: Good question, and you know the answer. So why ask ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. Do you sacrifice your right to self defense if you're drunk or high? Good question, and you know the answer. So why ask ? As the answer is no, your delightful little hypothetical situation doesn't make much sense. |
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I would like to see a reliable way to test for it like we can alcohol. set limits and guidelines before making it legal. not at work and not carry a weapon while intoxicated. View Quote Yeah, this sounds reasonable. I mean, in my state can you can go armed into a bar and drink, you are governed by the same laws as drinking and driving. I don't drink or do drugs, but if people are going to be doing weed and carrying a weapon they should be governed by some sort of limit so that we can be sure they are not impaired. |
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Looks good on a gun site This gun site must be part of a cartel or some shit. '07ers Losers going to lose, it's all good |
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Quoted: To aid my fellow posters here on AR15.com (I'm new - it's the least I can do), I've devised a tango1978-approved list of the following topics that should not be discussed on a gun forum: * state gun laws we don't like * federal firearm regulations we don't like * the NFA * raw milk * parking in handicap spaces * traffic violations * removing mattress tags * jaywalking * getting out of jury duty * and of course - the devil's weed. Failure to comply will result in giving gun owners a bad name. And if tango had his way - beheading. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yep, and this is the reason doper threads should be locked on a pro 2A forum. You are aware that discussing the matter doesn't automatically saturate your bloodstream with THC, correct? No different than talking about other idiotic illegal activities, should be locked. So we should not talk about the American Revolution? Because that was illegal as fuck to the Crown. To aid my fellow posters here on AR15.com (I'm new - it's the least I can do), I've devised a tango1978-approved list of the following topics that should not be discussed on a gun forum: * state gun laws we don't like * federal firearm regulations we don't like * the NFA * raw milk * parking in handicap spaces * traffic violations * removing mattress tags * jaywalking * getting out of jury duty * and of course - the devil's weed. Failure to comply will result in giving gun owners a bad name. And if tango had his way - beheading. I'll tell you who he is not: he is not my supervisor. Neither are you. |
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Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. Do you sacrifice your right to self defense if you're drunk or high? Good question, and you know the answer. So why ask ? As the answer is no, your delightful little hypothetical situation doesn't make much sense. Of course the answer is no. |
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These drug doper threads really don't look good for the gun community FIFY Next time put down your beer before typing a response. I don't drink beer but regardless does the 4473 say anything about beer? No it don't. |
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These drug doper threads really don't look good for the gun community FIFY Next time put down your beer before typing a response. I don't drink beer but regardless does the 4473 say anything about beer? No it don't. Sweet. Beer just made the approved list. I'm stoked. Good thing we're not discussing this issue during the prohibition era. That would be a no-no |
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These drug doper threads really don't look good for the gun community FIFY Next time put down your beer before typing a response. I don't drink beer but regardless does the 4473 say anything about beer? No it don't. Sweet. Beer just made the approved list. I'm stoked. Good thing we're not discussing this issue during the prohibition era. That would be a no-no No we are not, you know that right teenr? |
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No we are not, you know that right teenr? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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These drug doper threads really don't look good for the gun community FIFY Next time put down your beer before typing a response. I don't drink beer but regardless does the 4473 say anything about beer? No it don't. Sweet. Beer just made the approved list. I'm stoked. Good thing we're not discussing this issue during the prohibition era. That would be a no-no No we are not, you know that right teenr? That was actually a double entendre. But yeah - whatever you say boss. I'm obviously too new here to think for myself. I appreciate your guidance. |
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Quoted: Pot/dope is still illegal on a federal level hence using and possessing/purchasing a firearm is illegal. Crime is crime and doesn't go well will a pro 2A community. My example still stands. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So 14'r I guess you think it would be OK for people to get on here and talk about how the think that other illegal activities should be legal also? I think people should be able to manufacture machine guns with no government regulation. So do you think it would be appropriate if someone made a thread about how murder, assault, theft, etc should be legal here? No difference, they are criminal acts just like using drugs and owning guns. Bad publicity for the gun community. Last I checked murder, assault, theft, etc were crimes that affected others. Someone at home smoking a joint affects only that person. And also pot is legal in 2 states, you examples are not. Pot/dope is still illegal on a federal level hence using and possessing/purchasing a firearm is illegal. Crime is crime and doesn't go well will a pro 2A community. My example still stands. And this thread is about views on the legality of pot. Views for and against it. No different than arguing about other things the .gov has banned such as flavored cigarettes. |
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Meh, not a pot head, don't like it (I actually tried it a couple of times when I was young) but I think it would be fine and dandy to legalize it.
As soon as there is a way to test for it on the spot AKA Bob's driving down Western Blvd at 10pm high as a freakin kite, be able to test him right there just like a DUI stop and I'm good. I don't want to be toting my kid down the road in the evening and be hit by a stoner because thanks to no testing other than field sobriety, everyone can drive wasted as hell. |
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Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, and this is the reason doper threads should be locked on a pro 2A forum. You are aware that discussing the matter doesn't automatically saturate your bloodstream with THC, correct? Let's say you smoke a joint on the first of the month. Let's say on the seventeenth day of that month, you defend yourself with your side arm, legit as all get out. If your blood is drawn on day 17, that THC will still show up. Let that sink in a bit. Tests can quite clearly tell if you have THC in your system from immediately recent use, or just metabolites from a couple days/weeks ago. AZ just passed a law stating that simply having THC metabolites in your system is NOT grounds for a DUI. |
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HOWEVER, it should be illegal to conceal carry while intoxicated, just as it is with alcohol. View Quote Why? I have gotten drunk at my home on many occasions. I have NEVER raided the safe and shot the place up. If you can't be a responsible gun owner while drinking, then perhaps you shouldn't own guns or shouldn't drink at all. |
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That doesn't make sense. You don't disagree that people should decide whether or not they should use marijuana, but you think it should be illegal? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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By your logic we should make alcohol illegal, since well it alters your mental state in many of the same ways. How about this, let people make there own decisions on pot, and keep the .gov out of it. I don't disagree with you on let the people decide. However, I think marijuana should remain illegal. That doesn't make sense. You don't disagree that people should decide whether or not they should use marijuana, but you think it should be illegal? I meant people as in the collective, not the individual. |
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By your logic we should make alcohol illegal, since well it alters your mental state in many of the same ways. How about this, let people make there own decisions on pot, and keep the .gov out of it. I don't disagree with you on let the people decide. However, I think marijuana should remain illegal. Let's hear your logical and well thought out reasoning behind this. I'm willing to bet it's as intelligent as the libtard reasons for banning assault weapons. "omg pot alters your mental state so it should be banned". Nevermind the fact that there's a perfectly legal substance called alcohol that ALSO greatly impairs your mental state. |
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To aid my fellow posters here on AR15.com (I'm new - it's the least I can do), I've devised a tango1978-approved list of the following topics that should not be discussed on a gun forum: * state gun laws we don't like * federal firearm regulations we don't like * the NFA * raw milk * parking in handicap spaces * traffic violations * removing mattress tags * jaywalking * getting out of jury duty * and of course - the devil's weed. Failure to comply will result in giving gun owners a bad name. And if tango had his way - beheading. View Quote |
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