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Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Can´t speak for Poland anno 39, but else: BS! The Communists suppressed the Jews!!! H Yes, some did. A large chunk of them were Jews themselves. In every country they reside in Jews vote for the farthest left politicians they can find. Not all of them, but much more than average. This is a fact. Lots of people on the right side of things dislike this quality in them and thus dislike Jews. Look at News York, look at Israel. They have been expelled from 109 nations since 250A.D., there is a reason for this. God's punishment is not something to be taken lightly, and he will continue to do so until they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Until that day comes we would be wise not to interfere. Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. It's the truth. I'm ignoring the rest of your nonsense. I see you're in Israel. I've been to Israel more than once myself. I've seen the Pride parades in Tel Aviv, the Haredi in their neighborhoods and how they treat the goyim, the gangsters, the socialism, etc, I could go on about that den of sin all day. Bottom line is that it was formed against God's will and if they have any sense they'll repent, return to exile, and accept Jesus' love and forgiveness. |
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Quoted: It's the truth. I'm ignoring the rest of your nonsense. I see you're in Israel. I've been to Israel more than once myself. I've seen the Pride parades in Tel Aviv, the Haredi in their neighborhoods and how they treat the goyim, the gangsters, the socialism, etc, I could go on about that den of sin all day. Bottom line is that it was formed against God's will and if they have any sense they'll repent, return to exile, and accept Jesus' love and forgiveness. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By Diesel H Yes, some did. A large chunk of them were Jews themselves. In every country they reside in Jews vote for the farthest left politicians they can find. Not all of them, but much more than average. This is a fact. Lots of people on the right side of things dislike this quality in them and thus dislike Jews. Look at News York, look at Israel. They have been expelled from 109 nations since 250A.D., there is a reason for this. God's punishment is not something to be taken lightly, and he will continue to do so until they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Until that day comes we would be wise not to interfere. Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. It's the truth. I'm ignoring the rest of your nonsense. I see you're in Israel. I've been to Israel more than once myself. I've seen the Pride parades in Tel Aviv, the Haredi in their neighborhoods and how they treat the goyim, the gangsters, the socialism, etc, I could go on about that den of sin all day. Bottom line is that it was formed against God's will and if they have any sense they'll repent, return to exile, and accept Jesus' love and forgiveness. Amazing. 1. Gay pride parades are exclusive to Israel. Got it. 2. The Charedi want to be left alone. The outside world (Christian world) has only caused pain, suffering, and death. 3. Gangsters are exclusive to Israel. 4. Socialist policies are exclusive to Israel. 5. Sin is exclusive to Israel. 6. G-d spoke to you and indicated the nation was formed against his will. 7. America is free of all of the above. 8. Christians always live up to what they espouse. |
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Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. View Quote As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? |
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As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? That is a valid point. Not that I would celebrate his death, but the whole forgiveness and died for your sins thing starts to lose its foundation if God is going to start fucking people over for something their ancestors may or may not have done nearly 2000 years ago. |
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As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? don't worry...it baffles this Christian as well.....I do like to point out to these morons...Jesus was an observant Jew. |
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Quoted: As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? Studying the history of the church will alter a man's worldview to say the least. Observant and secular Jews want nothing to do with Christians for the most part because of history. Christians today simply cannot fathom that their religion has been nothing but pain and suffering for Jews. Christians believe they have the answer and the way to "save" the Jews. Jews don't want it, don't need it, and want to be left alone. They do not see Christianity and Judaism as being "closely related" and that is a very hard thing for Christians to accept; Christianity is pagan to Jews. The worst thing that could happen to a Jew is to be baptized or converted to Christianity. So much about Christianity is foreign and unlike Judaism. |
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Quoted: don't worry...it baffles this Christian as well.....I do like to point out to these morons...Jesus was an observant Jew. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? don't worry...it baffles this Christian as well.....I do like to point out to these morons...Jesus was an observant Jew. Sssshhh!!! Don't go spreading that around! You will open a gigantic can of worms. "Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. Whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do." Throughout the "new testament" we find Jesus and his disciples observing feasts and festivals that Jews are commanded to do unto this day. The "old testament" and "new testament" do not jive; if the "old testament" is invalid, it makes G-d a liar. |
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As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? It takes some really scary people to kill a god. |
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Sssshhh!!! Don't go spreading that around! You will open a gigantic can of worms. "Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. Whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do." Throughout the "new testament" we find Jesus and his disciples observing feasts and festivals that Jews are commanded to do unto this day. The "old testament" and "new testament" do not jive; if the "old testament" is invalid, it makes G-d a liar. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? don't worry...it baffles this Christian as well.....I do like to point out to these morons...Jesus was an observant Jew. Sssshhh!!! Don't go spreading that around! You will open a gigantic can of worms. "Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. Whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do." Throughout the "new testament" we find Jesus and his disciples observing feasts and festivals that Jews are commanded to do unto this day. The "old testament" and "new testament" do not jive; if the "old testament" is invalid, it makes G-d a liar. "I did not come to abolish the law..I came to fulfill it" I'm pretty sure he was saying something pretty important right there. |
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Quoted: "I did not come to abolish the law..I came to fulfill it" I'm pretty sure he was saying something pretty important right there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. As someone who is not religious and is about as neutral as you'll find on this issue ... the whole "Jews killed Jesus and are being punished" or "I don't like Jews because they killed Jesus" has always struck me as odd. Assuming that the Jews were in fact responsible, shouldn't Christians be thankful? If they hadn't killed Jesus, then the entire foundation of Christianity would never have been laid. Right? don't worry...it baffles this Christian as well.....I do like to point out to these morons...Jesus was an observant Jew. Sssshhh!!! Don't go spreading that around! You will open a gigantic can of worms. "Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. Whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do." Throughout the "new testament" we find Jesus and his disciples observing feasts and festivals that Jews are commanded to do unto this day. The "old testament" and "new testament" do not jive; if the "old testament" is invalid, it makes G-d a liar. "I did not come to abolish the law..I came to fulfill it" I'm pretty sure he was saying something pretty important right there. Out of respect for your faith, I won't go any further, I have no desire to undermine your belief system. As a matter of fact, I was indoctrinated in it since childhood and attended a non-denominational private school and studied the scriptures my whole life. Think on this. |
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Quoted: Quoted: More "Freedom of Speech" by Muslims in Austria Protesters attack Israeli soccer team in Austria over Gaza Thu Jul 24, 2014 http://cdn1.independent.ie/incoming/article30456516.ece/359c2/ALTERNATES/h342/haifa.jpg (Reuters) - Protesters against Israel's military offensive in Gaza attacked Israeli soccer players at a friendly match in Austria on Wednesday evening, stopping play five minutes before the end. Salzburg police said on Thursday around 20 people with flags and placards, mostly Austrians of Turkish origin, stormed the pitch shouting slogans about the Gaza conflict, in which more than 700 Palestinians have been killed and thousands displaced. Austria's chancellor condemned the violence. "Guests who are staying in Austria have the right to do so in safety, regardless of their origin and religion," Werner Faymann said in a statement. Those are some really badass pants. Cargo pockets! |
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You have probably read about the violence erupting in Europe leveled against Jews, ostensibly because of Israel's attack against Hamas. At first, I thought the antisemitic backlash was only because of that, until I read an article that talked about Jews leaving France that was written in JANUARY of this year. It is frightening to think that this is happening AGAIN, not 70 years after the holocaust. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/23/anti-semitic-riots-in-europe-took-us-back-to-1938/ [div style='margin-left: 40px;']In the past few days, a spate of demonstrations that began as peaceful protests against the Israeli invasion and bombing of the Gaza Strip turned violent. Images show smoke-clogged streets, shattered storefronts and police clad in riot gear. They show dozens of youths, some of them masked, clutching smoke bombs and setting trash fires. And they show hatred. A synagogue was attacked, along with a Jewish owned grocery store. "They were shouting: ‘Death to Jews,’ and ‘Slit Jews’ throats,’” a Jewish sound engineer told London’s Sunday Times. The man had lived in the community for 49 years, but when the Times reporter recently asked for his full name, he demurred. The chants, he said, "took us back to 1938.” But it wasn’t just that protest, that suburb, that day. The New York Times has reported chants of "death to Jews” and "Hitler was right” in other Paris demonstrations. In Berlin, according to the Associated Press, protesters shouted, "Gas the Jews!” In the Netherlands, a rabbi told the Jewish News Source unknown assailants shattered a window in his home with stones. "The fact that these attacks are recurrent shows the depth of hatred that exists against Jews,” he said. [div style='margin-left: 40px;']... A recent survey suggested France had the highest percentage of residents — 37 percent – who were openly anti-Semitic, reported The Washington Post’s Anthony Faiola. In Italy, one-fifth of the population felt that way; in Germany, more than one-fourth. Other studies also found rising levels of anti-Semitism in other parts of Europe. That shows an underlying hatred of Jews that has NOTHING to do with the current conflict. Jews are leaving France. This article was written on January 9th of this year: http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article123693713/Frankreichs-Juden-fliehen-vor-Antisemitismus.html. Sorry, it's in German only but I'll paraphrase some of the important topics:
This should be a stern warning for anyone who thinks that "it can't happen again". It most certainly can. View Quote Hopefully they'll have armed themselves better than last time. It takes more than that though. Ya gotta have the correct mindset. Will some let this happen again......?????? Considering all the other bullshit going on in the world today....anything is possible....... |
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Quoted: It's the truth. I'm ignoring the rest of your nonsense. I see you're in Israel. I've been to Israel more than once myself. I've seen the Pride parades in Tel Aviv, the Haredi in their neighborhoods and how they treat the goyim, the gangsters, the socialism, etc, I could go on about that den of sin all day. Bottom line is that it was formed against God's will and if they have any sense they'll repent, return to exile, and accept Jesus' love and forgiveness. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, some did. A large chunk of them were Jews themselves. In every country they reside in Jews vote for the farthest left politicians they can find. Not all of them, but much more than average. This is a fact. Lots of people on the right side of things dislike this quality in them and thus dislike Jews. Look at News York, look at Israel. They have been expelled from 109 nations since 250A.D., there is a reason for this. God's punishment is not something to be taken lightly, and he will continue to do so until they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Until that day comes we would be wise not to interfere. Here we go again and herein lies the truth of the Christian worldview: Jews killed JC and by rejecting him they are receiving G-d's punishment. It's the truth. I'm ignoring the rest of your nonsense. I see you're in Israel. I've been to Israel more than once myself. I've seen the Pride parades in Tel Aviv, the Haredi in their neighborhoods and how they treat the goyim, the gangsters, the socialism, etc, I could go on about that den of sin all day. Bottom line is that it was formed against God's will and if they have any sense they'll repent, return to exile, and accept Jesus' love and forgiveness. I kind of thought people that feel like this are a myth and no one could be that screwed up in their way of thinking. I guess I was wrong. |
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So any dislike or distrust of jews by any small part of a society means that people didn't learn from or are trying to restart the holocaust, and is indicative of extreme antisemitism occurring in Europe...
or any outspoken criticism of Israel actions right now means the same. Sensationalist bullshit... You of all people Zhukov... spewing this shit.... |
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Quoted: So any dislike or distrust of jews by any small part of a society means that people didn't learn from or are trying to restart the holocaust, and is indicative of extreme antisemitism occurring in Europe... View Quote or any outspoken criticism of Israel actions right now means the same. Sensationalist bullshit... You of all people Zhukov... spewing this shit.... RIF... |
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yep, there are some fundies who think that god especially favors the jews generally, no matter wat they do and the state of israel particularly.
Then there are other fundies (catholic and protestos) who think they make god angry and that forming the state of israel is further instance of their rebellion. Then there are the muslims who are especially anti-jewy since modern israel was founded. then there are the communists who dont like them for their extreme over representation in finance. then there are the...austrian/real capitolists who dont like their involvement in central banking and fractional reserve banking where 90%+ of demand deposit accounts balances are loaned out. then there are the nationalists who are eternally suspicious of their loyalties and about their extreme over representation in media and government. then there is just the everyman who doesnt like their pequliar ways, they way they are usually wealthier, sometimes stingy with waiters etc. |
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we just all need to come together, jews, eurotards and people of the isles, mericas, and all work together on something we all agree about....
...the gypsie problem [peek] |
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So any dislike or distrust of jews by any small part of a society means that people didn't learn from or are trying to restart the holocaust, and is indicative of extreme antisemitism occurring in Europe... or any outspoken criticism of Israel actions right now means the same. Sensationalist bullshit... You of all people Zhukov... spewing this shit.... View Quote That's not even close to what I got from his posts. |
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More data: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/18/world/social-issues-world/anti-semitism-sky-high-among-warsaw-teens-poll/#.U9MhDLGTKNw
Anti-Semitism sky-high among Warsaw teens: pol AFP-JIJI, Apr 18, 2013 View Quote WARSAW – Anti-Semitism is high among teenagers in the Polish capital, according to an opinion survey conducted in the runup to Friday’s 70th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. The poll of students from 20 high schools in the city, published Tuesday, found that 44 percent of the respondents said they would be unhappy to have a Jewish neighbor. In the survey of 1,250 students commissioned by the Jewish Community of Warsaw, the Homo Homini polling institute also found that 2 in 5 said they would not like to have a Jewish classmate and 61 percent said they would be upset if their partner turned out to be a Jew. But the study was probably flawed, or maybe Poland's Muslim population is just really high, not to mention that we just know that those numbers can't be true... |
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Quoted: More data: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/18/world/social-issues-world/anti-semitism-sky-high-among-warsaw-teens-poll/#.U9MhDLGTKNw WARSAW – Anti-Semitism is high among teenagers in the Polish capital, according to an opinion survey conducted in the runup to Friday’s 70th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. The poll of students from 20 high schools in the city, published Tuesday, found that 44 percent of the respondents said they would be unhappy to have a Jewish neighbor. In the survey of 1,250 students commissioned by the Jewish Community of Warsaw, the Homo Homini polling institute also found that 2 in 5 said they would not like to have a Jewish classmate and 61 percent said they would be upset if their partner turned out to be a Jew. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: More data: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/18/world/social-issues-world/anti-semitism-sky-high-among-warsaw-teens-poll/#.U9MhDLGTKNw Anti-Semitism sky-high among Warsaw teens: pol AFP-JIJI, Apr 18, 2013 WARSAW – Anti-Semitism is high among teenagers in the Polish capital, according to an opinion survey conducted in the runup to Friday’s 70th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. The poll of students from 20 high schools in the city, published Tuesday, found that 44 percent of the respondents said they would be unhappy to have a Jewish neighbor. In the survey of 1,250 students commissioned by the Jewish Community of Warsaw, the Homo Homini polling institute also found that 2 in 5 said they would not like to have a Jewish classmate and 61 percent said they would be upset if their partner turned out to be a Jew. But the study was probably flawed, or maybe Poland's Muslim population is just really high, not to mention that we just know that those numbers can't be true... It's just the gaza strip thing and the Israel state. They are a minority. It's the biased American media. We are only hearing one side. Did I cover it all? |
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Quoted: By and large, Dems support Arabs and Repubs support Israel. I just can't figure out why Jews here in the US vote Democrat. Wonder if this stuff in Europe will lift their blindness? View Quote |
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Quoted: But the study was probably flawed, or maybe Poland's Muslim population is just really high, not to mention that we just know that those numbers can't be true... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: More data: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/18/world/social-issues-world/anti-semitism-sky-high-among-warsaw-teens-poll/#.U9MhDLGTKNw Anti-Semitism sky-high among Warsaw teens: pol AFP-JIJI, Apr 18, 2013 WARSAW – Anti-Semitism is high among teenagers in the Polish capital, according to an opinion survey conducted in the runup to Friday’s 70th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. The poll of students from 20 high schools in the city, published Tuesday, found that 44 percent of the respondents said they would be unhappy to have a Jewish neighbor. In the survey of 1,250 students commissioned by the Jewish Community of Warsaw, the Homo Homini polling institute also found that 2 in 5 said they would not like to have a Jewish classmate and 61 percent said they would be upset if their partner turned out to be a Jew. But the study was probably flawed, or maybe Poland's Muslim population is just really high, not to mention that we just know that those numbers can't be true... It's just the gaza strip thing and the Israel state. They are a minority. It's the biased American media. We are only hearing one side. Did I cover it all? Almost, except for the date showing April 2013 - before the current conflict. But we've got enough other reasons to just dismiss those numbers outright already. |
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Quoted: Yeah I hope schumer loses his seat over this, I can't stand that lying POS MFer, and not because he's jewish either View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: By and large, Dems support Arabs and Repubs support Israel. I just can't figure out why Jews here in the US vote Democrat. Wonder if this stuff in Europe will lift their blindness? Yeah I hope schumer loses his seat over this, I can't stand that lying POS MFer, and not because he's jewish either Schumer will NEVER lose his seat - not even over this. |
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they had a spot about it on cnn tonight (it was on in dunkin donuts okay). About france specicically. Most of the of protestor/rioters in the short clip they showed seemed rather brown.
seroudly though guys, I woudl be surporsed if germans were that anti-jewy, but the rest of europe, shoot, they don't have so much to feel guilty for and so I dont' see why they would be so easily parted from centruies of ingraned anti jewish sentiment imbedded in their racial memory. |
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But the study was probably flawed, or maybe Poland's Muslim population is just really high, not to mention that we just know that those numbers can't be true... It's just the gaza strip thing and the Israel state. They are a minority. It's the biased American media. We are only hearing one side. Did I cover it all? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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More data: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/18/world/social-issues-world/anti-semitism-sky-high-among-warsaw-teens-poll/#.U9MhDLGTKNw Anti-Semitism sky-high among Warsaw teens: pol
AFP-JIJI, Apr 18, 2013 WARSAW – Anti-Semitism is high among teenagers in the Polish capital, according to an opinion survey conducted in the runup to Friday’s 70th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. The poll of students from 20 high schools in the city, published Tuesday, found that 44 percent of the respondents said they would be unhappy to have a Jewish neighbor. In the survey of 1,250 students commissioned by the Jewish Community of Warsaw, the Homo Homini polling institute also found that 2 in 5 said they would not like to have a Jewish classmate and 61 percent said they would be upset if their partner turned out to be a Jew. But the study was probably flawed, or maybe Poland's Muslim population is just really high, not to mention that we just know that those numbers can't be true... It's just the gaza strip thing and the Israel state. They are a minority. It's the biased American media. We are only hearing one side. Did I cover it all? Yep...pretty much. You are learning. |
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It's just the gaza strip thing and the Israel state. They are a minority. It's the biased American media. We are only hearing one side. Did I cover it all? Almost, except for the date showing April 2013 - before the current conflict. But we've got enough other reasons to just dismiss those numbers outright already. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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AFP-JIJI, Apr 18, 2013 WARSAW – Anti-Semitism is high among teenagers in the Polish capital, according to an opinion survey conducted in the runup to Friday’s 70th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. The poll of students from 20 high schools in the city, published Tuesday, found that 44 percent of the respondents said they would be unhappy to have a Jewish neighbor. In the survey of 1,250 students commissioned by the Jewish Community of Warsaw, the Homo Homini polling institute also found that 2 in 5 said they would not like to have a Jewish classmate and 61 percent said they would be upset if their partner turned out to be a Jew. But the study was probably flawed, or maybe Poland's Muslim population is just really high, not to mention that we just know that those numbers can't be true... It's just the gaza strip thing and the Israel state. They are a minority. It's the biased American media. We are only hearing one side. Did I cover it all? Almost, except for the date showing April 2013 - before the current conflict. But we've got enough other reasons to just dismiss those numbers outright already. OK Zhukov.....I've tried to explain this to you but you don't want to listen. People cherry picking shitty links to suit their agenda is nothing new to ARFCOM - it happens in all threads. I honestly expected better of you though given your normally balanced approach, unfortunately on this occasion you are nothing more than one of the usual fanboys looking to back up one side of a situation. So here is an example of how day it is ........http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/09/20139413527769518.html I don't mind if you have a side in this. It really makes no difference to me from a political or religious standpoint as I personally don't support either side in the conflict and think they are both behaving like asshats with their tit for tat stupidity. However, when you start making accusations that Europeans are anti-semitic - and the same goes for all the other idiots who think the same in this thread - then I am going to challenge you. There are 745 Million people in Europe, and in that population you are going to get people who do not like others.....there is always going to be a degree of latent dislike between some groups. When tensions flare as they often do in the middle east, we see a rise in attacks by a very small minority of idiots. The same thing happened in the Gulf Wars, after 9/11, after 7/7 and at other time. If I see what you describe happening at any time, I promise you faithfully I would be the first one to say so. I wouldn't like to see it happening any more than you do. As it stands now, what you are describing is neither an increase in European anti-semitism or reliable in terms of a prediction of mood. Cherry picking information of the internet at any time to suit my arguments.....google is great at giving people who don;t have a fucking clue what is happening more credibility than they deserve. A bunch of links on the internet is not going to cut it. Sorry. |
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I would venture to guess you are not hearing about attacks on Jews in Europe for the same reason we in the US seldom see reports of black on white violence. Not because it isn't epidemic, but because the press has an agenda they follow. View Quote Selective reporting in the Euro media? Shocking. |
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I agree, and I don't think anyone is denying that. What I am questioning (and extremely skeptical of), is the related claim made in this thread that anti-semitism is generally rising in Europe OUTSIDE of the muslim immigrants, who (as Agent_Funky pointed out) always gets restless whenever Israel and the Palis go at it. In others words, I agree that muslim immigration has brought with it an increase in anti-semitism (thus somewhat increasing the overall level in a given society, and probably most in France due to their high level of immigration) - but I doubt that the overall level has ALSO risen an additional amount because of an increase in anti-semitism in the "native" populations of European countries. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A wonder if it is the influx of Muslims in Europe that is causing this. I would say yes that is definitely a contributing factor in countries like France. I don't see how anyone can deny this with a straight face. I agree, and I don't think anyone is denying that. What I am questioning (and extremely skeptical of), is the related claim made in this thread that anti-semitism is generally rising in Europe OUTSIDE of the muslim immigrants, who (as Agent_Funky pointed out) always gets restless whenever Israel and the Palis go at it. In others words, I agree that muslim immigration has brought with it an increase in anti-semitism (thus somewhat increasing the overall level in a given society, and probably most in France due to their high level of immigration) - but I doubt that the overall level has ALSO risen an additional amount because of an increase in anti-semitism in the "native" populations of European countries. I think the native populations will allow Muslim anti-Semitism to roll around the deck of the state primarily out of fear that the Muslims will then claim racism on the part of the Euro natives. |
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It's just the gaza strip thing and the Israel state. They are a minority. It's the biased American media. We are only hearing one side. Did I cover it all? Almost, except for the date showing April 2013 - before the current conflict. But we've got enough other reasons to just dismiss those numbers outright already. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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More data: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/18/world/social-issues-world/anti-semitism-sky-high-among-warsaw-teens-poll/#.U9MhDLGTKNw Anti-Semitism sky-high among Warsaw teens: pol
AFP-JIJI, Apr 18, 2013 WARSAW – Anti-Semitism is high among teenagers in the Polish capital, according to an opinion survey conducted in the runup to Friday’s 70th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. The poll of students from 20 high schools in the city, published Tuesday, found that 44 percent of the respondents said they would be unhappy to have a Jewish neighbor. In the survey of 1,250 students commissioned by the Jewish Community of Warsaw, the Homo Homini polling institute also found that 2 in 5 said they would not like to have a Jewish classmate and 61 percent said they would be upset if their partner turned out to be a Jew. But the study was probably flawed, or maybe Poland's Muslim population is just really high, not to mention that we just know that those numbers can't be true... It's just the gaza strip thing and the Israel state. They are a minority. It's the biased American media. We are only hearing one side. Did I cover it all? Almost, except for the date showing April 2013 - before the current conflict. But we've got enough other reasons to just dismiss those numbers outright already. Oh I'm not blaming the current gaza crisis on the antisemitism, I'm blaming the obama administrations Islam sympathy for embolding them, which is what got us to this point. Antisemitism abruptly increased shortly after obama got elected the first time and went on his apology tour, appointed Neapolitano, had the Arab spring fiasco, blamed someone that made a film on some riots, ect. Then there was the World Trade Center rebuilding bugaboo which brought forth more sympathy and further embolding of the Islam world against the western world. He's been having radical muslims as guests in the WH. They've been emboldened ever since he was elected and the incidents started increasing then. I have similar media blips about vandalism in NY and Jews mentioning the increase from wayyy back. That's why I was somewhat surprized when he got reelectd. Even our "wars" have been one step forward, 2 steps back. When we "get"'something (big laden whatever) we lose even more. So the current anti Semitic increase is just a progression of what's been going on all along. But what can be expected when a country elects a Muslim after being attacked by muslims. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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yeah, thats an invention of the right wingers. The republican party invented the concept during a strategy meeting in 2009. It all depends on how you define anti semitism. For americans, "I don't like jews" For europeans, "we should kill them all" There is european history before 1945. Or simply ask what happened to the munich terrorists in 1972. All the jews died in that incident, but some muslims lived. How long did they stay in jail? |
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Cherry picking information of the internet at any time to suit my arguments.....google is great at giving people who don;t have a fucking clue what is happening more credibility than they deserve. A bunch of links on the internet is not going to cut it. Sorry. I'm still waiting for you to produce something other than "Oh you naive little boy - how wrong you are" type of argument. Until then, we'll have to agree to disagree like I said earlier. What do you want me to produce? Evidence that something you claim is happening, actually isn't happening? I have better things to do than spend time looking for link to "win" a debate on the internet. The narrative of both sides of the argument is being ramped up to generate sympathy and stir outrage. On the one hand we have the Palistinians producing pictures of the Fogel family murder scene and claiming that the images from the crime scene are dead Palestinian children killed by Israeli soldiers, and on the other hand you have people with other allegiances claiming that there is a rise in anti-semitism in Europe of suit their agenda. It's all manipulation. I don't think thou are a naive little boy.....I think you are being fed, or perhaps choosing to be fed, a line that is at best grossly exaggerated and at worst an outright lie and you are holding more stock in that line of thinking than perhaps you should. As I said - if I see anything indicating that extreme anti-semitism is taking hold in Europe again then I would be the first to agree with you. |
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I think this is driven by pro Arab sentiment. The Joos support Israel. Israel is illegitamate to the marxist set in Europe, because it was colonialy "imposed" by the US and Europe upon the "brown" (never mind that they are also Semites) people of the downtrodden middle east. View Quote You post gave me an idea of how to solve this. This all started when Rome evicted the Jews from Israel, back in the day. So we give the Jews Italy and let the Arabs have Israel. The Jews can fix Italy as a bonus. The downside is everything left back in Israel will turn to shit in a decade. |
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Quoted: OK Zhukov.....I've tried to explain this to you but you don't want to listen. People cherry picking shitty links to suit their agenda is nothing new to ARFCOM - it happens in all threads. I honestly expected better of you though given your normally balanced approach, unfortunately on this occasion you are nothing more than one of the usual fanboys looking to back up one side of a situation. So here is an example of how day it is ........http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/09/20139413527769518.html I don't mind if you have a side in this. It really makes no difference to me from a political or religious standpoint as I personally don't support either side in the conflict and think they are both behaving like asshats with their tit for tat stupidity. However, when you start making accusations that Europeans are anti-semitic - and the same goes for all the other idiots who think the same in this thread - then I am going to challenge you. There are 745 Million people in Europe, and in that population you are going to get people who do not like others.....there is always going to be a degree of latent dislike between some groups. When tensions flare as they often do in the middle east, we see a rise in attacks by a very small minority of idiots. The same thing happened in the Gulf Wars, after 9/11, after 7/7 and at other time. If I see what you describe happening at any time, I promise you faithfully I would be the first one to say so. I wouldn't like to see it happening any more than you do. As it stands now, what you are describing is neither an increase in European anti-semitism or reliable in terms of a prediction of mood. Cherry picking information of the internet at any time to suit my arguments.....google is great at giving people who don;t have a fucking clue what is happening more credibility than they deserve. A bunch of links on the internet is not going to cut it. Sorry. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: But the study was probably flawed, or maybe Poland's Muslim population is just really high, not to mention that we just know that those numbers can't be true... It's just the gaza strip thing and the Israel state. They are a minority. It's the biased American media. We are only hearing one side. Did I cover it all? Almost, except for the date showing April 2013 - before the current conflict. But we've got enough other reasons to just dismiss those numbers outright already. OK Zhukov.....I've tried to explain this to you but you don't want to listen. People cherry picking shitty links to suit their agenda is nothing new to ARFCOM - it happens in all threads. I honestly expected better of you though given your normally balanced approach, unfortunately on this occasion you are nothing more than one of the usual fanboys looking to back up one side of a situation. So here is an example of how day it is ........http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/09/20139413527769518.html I don't mind if you have a side in this. It really makes no difference to me from a political or religious standpoint as I personally don't support either side in the conflict and think they are both behaving like asshats with their tit for tat stupidity. However, when you start making accusations that Europeans are anti-semitic - and the same goes for all the other idiots who think the same in this thread - then I am going to challenge you. There are 745 Million people in Europe, and in that population you are going to get people who do not like others.....there is always going to be a degree of latent dislike between some groups. When tensions flare as they often do in the middle east, we see a rise in attacks by a very small minority of idiots. The same thing happened in the Gulf Wars, after 9/11, after 7/7 and at other time. If I see what you describe happening at any time, I promise you faithfully I would be the first one to say so. I wouldn't like to see it happening any more than you do. As it stands now, what you are describing is neither an increase in European anti-semitism or reliable in terms of a prediction of mood. Cherry picking information of the internet at any time to suit my arguments.....google is great at giving people who don;t have a fucking clue what is happening more credibility than they deserve. A bunch of links on the internet is not going to cut it. Sorry. This would be my first time in all my years on ARFCOM, I was here prior to my join date, that I am considering the ignore function.
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Now I get it! You are the source. The only person who knows "what is happening". Do you do this from your perch in the clouds as you look down on us? This would be my first time in all my years on ARFCOM, I was here prior to my join date, that I am considering the ignore function. View Quote I am not the "only person who knows what is happening". I am just bloke who is engaged in a conversation about a subject where there is a bit of debate about the veracity of what is being reported and the motives behind it. If you want to see your arse over the whole thing and use the ignore button, then feel free to do so. It will have zero effect on my opinion of what I am reading and will not really serve to do anything more than allow you to bury your head in the sand when it comes to considering a perspective of someone who actually lives in Europe, sees what is going on and perhaps understands some of the mechanisms behind it from a European perspective. I am taking no sides in the whole Israel and Palestine thing - I am responding to the accusation that extreme anti-semitism is taking hold in Europe again. There are many reasons Jewish people are leaving Europe and going to live in Israel. Firstly the Israeli Govt is actively encouraging Aliyah through tax breaks and by welcoming those people to Israel as their home. Article here on how tax laws favour those who wish to emigrate from other countries to go and live in Israel - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah Here is another article that puts an explanation of why people are going to Israel - http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/157703/rising-number-of-french-jews-making-aliyah It primarily talks about France which has featured heavily in this thread, but does give an insight into what the factors are that may lie behind the decision of people to leave Europe of Israel. Firstly there has been a discontent with the economic situation in Europe. The Euro is on it's arse and things are still economically stagnant with negative inflation. The Euro has more countries who are net takers than net givers and there i economic uncertainty about what is going to happen in the Eurozone. To be honest, given the way the Eurozone is performing, the installation of a socialist Govt which imposed heavy taxation on businesses, and the tax breaks being offered in Israel, I don't blame Jewish people for the increasing Aliyah rates. Secondly it makes reference to anti-semitism. While there is CONCERN about anti-semitism, the stats actually showed that there has been a fall in anti-semitic behaviour over the last couple of years and the pattern of anti-semitism follows closely the flaring of troubles between Israel and the Palestinian Territories. It does not say that there is an increase in anti-semitism. Even so, the article goes on to express that there is actually active growth in the way young Jewish people view their heritage and see Israel. Many olim are responding to programmes by the Israeli Govt to get Jewsih people to go to Israel and visit the country, with a view to working or touring and learning about their heritage. This has been successful, while the economic situation in the Eurozone looks bleak, in attracting Jewish people to Israel as a place to live. The figures being quoted in this thread have a lot more behind them than the rather simplistic conclusions being drawn about anti-semitism. |
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More isolated incidents; disgruntled Muslims not happy with Israel - it has nothing to do with antisemitism which is directed at all Jews.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2707421/Rising-tide-anti-semitism-Britain-Jewish-people-face-backlash-bloodshed-Gaza.html Rising tide of anti-semitism in Britain as Jewish people face backlash over bloodshed in Gaza
Published: 08:50 EST, 27 July 2014 | Updated: 02:52 EST, 28 July 2014 View Quote A young Palestinian protests with thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators outside parliament in London on Saturday Jewish people in Britain are enduring a backlash of attacks, bomb threats and anti-semitic insults fuelled by the bloodshed in Gaza. More than 100 hate crimes have been recorded by police and community groups this month, more than double the usual number. Community safety groups fear the total could be the second highest ever recorded, after an explosion of violence during the 2009 Gaza war. In several disturbing cases attackers have invoked the Holocaust and even shouted: ‘Heil Hitler’ at victims. |
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Those crazy Jews claiming that antisemitism is on the rise - they are clearly mistaken as such a thing isn't possible.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israeli-palestine-conflict-french-synagogues-attacked-jews-lament-anti-semitism-rise-1456604 Israeli-Palestine Conflict: French Synagogues Attacked as Jews Lament Anti-Semitism RiseByUmberto Bacchi July 14, 2014 13:41 BST A synagogue on the outskirts of Paris was firebombed and two others attacked by violent anti-Israeli protesters in the capital's city centre over the weekend. ... Anti-Racism group SOS Racisme said: "it is the responsibility of people living in France to rise above hatred. Support to Palestinians can't translate into hate towards Jews." Even before Israel launched Operation Protective Edge against Hamas in Gaza, inter-communal tensions were on the raise in France. In June, Jewish community leaders warned that a record number of Jews was leaving the country due to what they described an increasingly anti-Semitic environment. More than 1,400 Jews emigrated in the first three months 2014, four times as many as in the same period in 2013. Michèle Teboul, the chairwoman of the Representative Council of French Jewish Institutions, told The Times that an increasing number of anti-Semitic incidents, carried out mainly by second- or third-generation North African immigrants, had fuelled a sense of insecurity. View Quote |
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Also: There seems to be a misconception of what MY position is. I have the feeling that some people are claiming I stated that antisemitism is on a huge upswing, or that the upswing can't be attributed to Muslims immigration. The only other statement I've made is that the latent antisemitism among the indigenous population in most European countries is fairly high, sometimes around 20% or more and I've produced several sources that backed up those numbers. One of the initial sources has been called into question, but I also produced two more.
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The situation in France in particular is starting to border on conditions during the Reichskristallnacht. The targeting of Jewish stores and synagogues is deplorable to say in the least. We always complain about "Where are the peaceful Muslims that are protesting the violence of the terrorists?" In that same light: Where is the outcry against the violence against the Jews? |
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More isolated incidents; disgruntled Muslims not happy with Israel - it has nothing to do with antisemitism which is directed at all Jews. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2707421/Rising-tide-anti-semitism-Britain-Jewish-people-face-backlash-bloodshed-Gaza.html [div style='cursor: pointer;']http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/27/1406468310150_Image_galleryImage_epa04331676_A_young_Pales.JPG +3 A young Palestinian protests with thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators outside parliament in London on Saturday Jewish people in Britain are enduring a backlash of attacks, bomb threats and anti-semitic insults fuelled by the bloodshed in Gaza. More than 100 hate crimes have been recorded by police and community groups this month, more than double the usual number. Community safety groups fear the total could be the second highest ever recorded, after an explosion of violence during the 2009 Gaza war. In several disturbing cases attackers have invoked the Holocaust and even shouted: ‘Heil Hitler’ at victims. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
More isolated incidents; disgruntled Muslims not happy with Israel - it has nothing to do with antisemitism which is directed at all Jews. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2707421/Rising-tide-anti-semitism-Britain-Jewish-people-face-backlash-bloodshed-Gaza.html Rising tide of anti-semitism in Britain as Jewish people face backlash over bloodshed in Gaza
Published: 08:50 EST, 27 July 2014 | Updated: 02:52 EST, 28 July 2014 +3 A young Palestinian protests with thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators outside parliament in London on Saturday Jewish people in Britain are enduring a backlash of attacks, bomb threats and anti-semitic insults fuelled by the bloodshed in Gaza. More than 100 hate crimes have been recorded by police and community groups this month, more than double the usual number. Community safety groups fear the total could be the second highest ever recorded, after an explosion of violence during the 2009 Gaza war. In several disturbing cases attackers have invoked the Holocaust and even shouted: ‘Heil Hitler’ at victims. And? people are reacting to Israel bombing the shit out of civilians in Gaza. This was covered back on page 2. |
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