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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:01:55 PM EDT
Hey all, new to ARF, so take it easy on me here in GD.. I see what can be done here
I am going to be building my first rifle in 5.56. I currently have an AR in 308 but I did not build that rifle, this will be my first. I am not going to be finishing this right off, more or less over the next few months or so. My goal is to have a relatively $$ friendly build that I can rely on for a shtf purpose if need be. Otherwise, this will be used for general range and courses.. This is what I have in mind so far.. PSA stripped lower DD lower parts kit BMC BCG and BCM gunfighter charging handle I am looking for advice on the upper receiver. NOTE: my last purchase will be a Noveske barrel, if possible, because if the coin I will need to spend on it. If not, I will consider purchasing a bbl'd upper receiver with no BCG/CH. So, any advice on an upper receiver would be greatly appreciated. Again, I would like this upper to be wallet friendly but I want to be able to trust this rifle with my life. I am sure this question has been asked time and time again, so I apologize.. If you have suggestions for swapping my above list for other parts, my ears are open 
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:09:49 PM EDT
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I never realized how expensive Noveske barrels were. Would not buy
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:11:47 PM EDT
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I never realized how expensive Noveske barrels were. Would not buy They're good shit. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:12:11 PM EDT
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I never realized how expensive Noveske barrels were. Would not buy Daniel Defense makes a good barrel as I understand it. OP, why not just go with a BCM upper already assembled in one of their available configurations? |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:13:08 PM EDT
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Tapco the bitch, Yo!
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:13:31 PM EDT
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I never realized how expensive Noveske barrels were. Would not buy from what I've read about noveske bbl's they are worth every penny.. I have not used a rifle with one, however. You say you would not buy because of the price, but don't offer any advice on the negatives of that bbl, or any other options.. Not sure why you replied |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:15:36 PM EDT
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Tapco the bitch, Yo! This isn't an SKS
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:17:49 PM EDT
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Tapco the bitch, Yo! This isn't an SKS LaRue da Fooo? 
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:18:06 PM EDT
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Daniel Defense makes a good barrel as I understand it. OP, why not just go with a BCM upper already assembled in one of their available configurations? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never realized how expensive Noveske barrels were. Would not buy Daniel Defense makes a good barrel as I understand it. OP, why not just go with a BCM upper already assembled in one of their available configurations? have been looking into this route as well. I guess I just wanted this to be a complete build for me, but if going that route will save me that much money I may end up just doing that. And I don't like seeing myself spend $700 at once
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:23:52 PM EDT
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Are the PSA barrels made by FN?
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:32:52 PM EDT
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If you're building a rifle with a 16" barrel, I'm on the fence about high end barrels. It's a carbine, not a long range rifle. It's nice if you can afford the high end stuff, but I won't personally lose any sleep over it. I have a Spike's barrel (actually FN) on the one I built with all the toys. I'm happy with it. It was $260.00.
If you want to build the upper, you will need some stuff. You need an AR combination tool, a torque wrench, a vise that is solidly mounted to a bench, and clamps for the upper receiver. If you don't mind spending the money, they're pretty easy to build and there are excellent instructions in the armory section. It's also fun. If you're willing, your ownership of those tools may lead to build parties in the future. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:33:38 PM EDT
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from what I've read about noveske bbl's they are worth every penny.. I have not used a rifle with one, however. You say you would not buy because of the price, but don't offer any advice on the negatives of that bbl, or any other options.. Not sure why you replied Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never realized how expensive Noveske barrels were. Would not buy from what I've read about noveske bbl's they are worth every penny.. I have not used a rifle with one, however. You say you would not buy because of the price, but don't offer any advice on the negatives of that bbl, or any other options.. Not sure why you replied Cause this is GD and I was making an observation. BCMs barrels are made by the same company that makes Noveskes. PSAs as well. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:37:00 PM EDT
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Cause this is GD and I was making an observation. BCMs barrels are made by the same company that makes Noveskes. PSAs as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never realized how expensive Noveske barrels were. Would not buy from what I've read about noveske bbl's they are worth every penny.. I have not used a rifle with one, however. You say you would not buy because of the price, but don't offer any advice on the negatives of that bbl, or any other options.. Not sure why you replied Cause this is GD and I was making an observation. BCMs barrels are made by the same company that makes Noveskes. PSAs as well. no, they arent. Noveskes barrels are made by pac nor and are worth every penny. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:39:21 PM EDT
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no, they arent. Noveskes barrels are made by pac nor and are worth every penny. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never realized how expensive Noveske barrels were. Would not buy from what I've read about noveske bbl's they are worth every penny.. I have not used a rifle with one, however. You say you would not buy because of the price, but don't offer any advice on the negatives of that bbl, or any other options.. Not sure why you replied Cause this is GD and I was making an observation. BCMs barrels are made by the same company that makes Noveskes. PSAs as well. no, they arent. Noveskes barrels are made by pac nor and are worth every penny. I've spent a few minutes on google and the most recent things I have seen say noveske are FN barrels. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:42:43 PM EDT
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I've spent a few minutes on google and the most recent things I have seen say noveske are FN barrels. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never realized how expensive Noveske barrels were. Would not buy from what I've read about noveske bbl's they are worth every penny.. I have not used a rifle with one, however. You say you would not buy because of the price, but don't offer any advice on the negatives of that bbl, or any other options.. Not sure why you replied Cause this is GD and I was making an observation. BCMs barrels are made by the same company that makes Noveskes. PSAs as well. no, they arent. Noveskes barrels are made by pac nor and are worth every penny. I've spent a few minutes on google and the most recent things I have seen say noveske are FN barrels. they may have switched since john died, but when we was alive, they used pacnor. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:42:44 PM EDT
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If you're building a rifle with a 16" barrel, I'm on the fence about high end barrels. It's a carbine, not a long range rifle. It's nice if you can afford the high end stuff, but I won't personally lose any sleep over it. I have a Spike's barrel (actually FN) on the one I built with all the toys. I'm happy with it. It was $260.00. If you want to build the upper, you will need some stuff. You need an AR combination tool, a torque wrench, a vise that is solidly mounted to a bench, and clamps for the upper receiver. If you don't mind spending the money, they're pretty easy to build and there are excellent instructions in the armory section. It's also fun. If you're willing, your ownership of those tools may lead to build parties in the future. Thanks for the advice. I read more into the PSA barrels made by FN and at that price point ($174), I will most likely go that route. Now it's if I want it in a PSA upper or not
My buddy built his rifle, so he has all the equipment I would need for the build. Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:45:02 PM EDT
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With all the money you save from the good advice here, you could spend $24 on a Team membership. Just sayin . . . . 
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:46:12 PM EDT
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Hey all, new to ARF, so take it easy on me here in GD.. I see what can be done here
I am going to be building my first rifle in 5.56. I currently have an AR in 308 but I did not build that rifle, this will be my first. I am not going to be finishing this right off, more or less over the next few months or so. My goal is to have a relatively $$ friendly build that I can rely on for a shtf purpose if need be. Otherwise, this will be used for general range and courses.. This is what I have in mind so far.. PSA stripped lower DD lower parts kit BMC BCG and BCM gunfighter charging handle I am looking for advice on the upper receiver. NOTE: my last purchase will be a Noveske barrel, if possible, because if the coin I will need to spend on it. If not, I will consider purchasing a bbl'd upper receiver with no BCG/CH. So, any advice on an upper receiver would be greatly appreciated. Again, I would like this upper to be wallet friendly but I want to be able to trust this rifle with my life. I am sure this question has been asked time and time again, so I apologize.. If you have suggestions for swapping my above list for other parts, my ears are open
Thanks again Your screen name...MaineMed? EMMC? Elsewhere? 
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:47:45 PM EDT
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Thanks for the advice. I read more into the PSA barrels made by FN and at that price point ($174), I will most likely go that route. Now it's if I want it in a PSA upper or not
My buddy built his rifle, so he has all the equipment I would need for the build. Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're building a rifle with a 16" barrel, I'm on the fence about high end barrels. It's a carbine, not a long range rifle. It's nice if you can afford the high end stuff, but I won't personally lose any sleep over it. I have a Spike's barrel (actually FN) on the one I built with all the toys. I'm happy with it. It was $260.00. If you want to build the upper, you will need some stuff. You need an AR combination tool, a torque wrench, a vise that is solidly mounted to a bench, and clamps for the upper receiver. If you don't mind spending the money, they're pretty easy to build and there are excellent instructions in the armory section. It's also fun. If you're willing, your ownership of those tools may lead to build parties in the future. Thanks for the advice. I read more into the PSA barrels made by FN and at that price point ($174), I will most likely go that route. Now it's if I want it in a PSA upper or not
My buddy built his rifle, so he has all the equipment I would need for the build. Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again Really the Upper receiver itself doesn't matter. My latest build is using a DSG brand Upper. My 5.45 has a DSA. 9mm a Brownells. I do have a PSA Dissipator upper and its just as good a quality as the other uppers. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:50:03 PM EDT
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Really the Upper receiver itself doesn't matter. My latest build is using a DSG brand Upper. My 5.45 has a DSA. 9mm a Brownells. I do have a PSA Dissipator upper and its just as good a quality as the other uppers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're building a rifle with a 16" barrel, I'm on the fence about high end barrels. It's a carbine, not a long range rifle. It's nice if you can afford the high end stuff, but I won't personally lose any sleep over it. I have a Spike's barrel (actually FN) on the one I built with all the toys. I'm happy with it. It was $260.00. If you want to build the upper, you will need some stuff. You need an AR combination tool, a torque wrench, a vise that is solidly mounted to a bench, and clamps for the upper receiver. If you don't mind spending the money, they're pretty easy to build and there are excellent instructions in the armory section. It's also fun. If you're willing, your ownership of those tools may lead to build parties in the future. Thanks for the advice. I read more into the PSA barrels made by FN and at that price point ($174), I will most likely go that route. Now it's if I want it in a PSA upper or not
My buddy built his rifle, so he has all the equipment I would need for the build. Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again Really the Upper receiver itself doesn't matter. My latest build is using a DSG brand Upper. My 5.45 has a DSA. 9mm a Brownells. I do have a PSA Dissipator upper and its just as good a quality as the other uppers. So for reliability and how hard I can run it, you're saying look more into the lower receiver? Or just get a quality BCG and I'm g2g? I though the lower was just housing, get a solid parts kit and spend the money on a quality upper? |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:52:50 PM EDT
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Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again I have a 16" PSA Premium Upper that came with an Aimpoint PRO. No complaints whatsoever. I've taken it through two carbine courses with no issues. I also have a 12" PSA Premium Upper I used in a pistol that eats any ammo I feed it. PSA barreled uppers are GTG. ETA: Both of the above uppers mentioned above use FA BCGs and are mounted on billet lowers with RRA two stage triggers and ambi safeties. The pistol has an RRA pistol buffer tube assembly. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:53:39 PM EDT
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So for reliability and how hard I can run it, you're saying look more into the lower receiver? Or just get a quality BCG and I'm g2g? I though the lower was just housing, get a solid parts kit and spend the money on a quality upper? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're building a rifle with a 16" barrel, I'm on the fence about high end barrels. It's a carbine, not a long range rifle. It's nice if you can afford the high end stuff, but I won't personally lose any sleep over it. I have a Spike's barrel (actually FN) on the one I built with all the toys. I'm happy with it. It was $260.00. If you want to build the upper, you will need some stuff. You need an AR combination tool, a torque wrench, a vise that is solidly mounted to a bench, and clamps for the upper receiver. If you don't mind spending the money, they're pretty easy to build and there are excellent instructions in the armory section. It's also fun. If you're willing, your ownership of those tools may lead to build parties in the future. Thanks for the advice. I read more into the PSA barrels made by FN and at that price point ($174), I will most likely go that route. Now it's if I want it in a PSA upper or not
My buddy built his rifle, so he has all the equipment I would need for the build. Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again Really the Upper receiver itself doesn't matter. My latest build is using a DSG brand Upper. My 5.45 has a DSA. 9mm a Brownells. I do have a PSA Dissipator upper and its just as good a quality as the other uppers. So for reliability and how hard I can run it, you're saying look more into the lower receiver? Or just get a quality BCG and I'm g2g? I though the lower was just housing, get a solid parts kit and spend the money on a quality upper? Quality BCG I'd say. I have some Anderson lowers that are as good as the Spikes, DPMS, and Barrett lowers I have. I also realized I have a barrett Upper Receiver that the PSA is just as good as (Coating is just different) |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:03:00 PM EDT
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This is nuts. You would think with a name like "AR-15.com" there would be technical forums to ask such things...Crazy, I know.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:03:53 PM EDT
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I have a 16" PSA Premium Upper that came with an Aimpoint PRO. No complaints whatsoever. I've taken it through two carbine courses with no issues. I also have a 12" PSA Premium Upper I used in a pistol that eats any ammo I feed it. PSA barreled uppers are GTG. ETA: Both of the above uppers mentioned above use FA BCGs and are mounted on billet lowers with RRA two stage triggers and ambi safeties. The pistol has an RRA pistol buffer tube assembly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again I have a 16" PSA Premium Upper that came with an Aimpoint PRO. No complaints whatsoever. I've taken it through two carbine courses with no issues. I also have a 12" PSA Premium Upper I used in a pistol that eats any ammo I feed it. PSA barreled uppers are GTG. ETA: Both of the above uppers mentioned above use FA BCGs and are mounted on billet lowers with RRA two stage triggers and ambi safeties. The pistol has an RRA pistol buffer tube assembly. I'm assuming that yore using a PSA BCG as well? You guys are making me change my whole build!
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:04:57 PM EDT
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This is nuts. You would think with a name like "AR-15.com" there would be technical forums to ask such things...Crazy, I know. God forbid I posted in GD, rather than a poll on if I like pizza more than pie |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:05:21 PM EDT
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This is nuts. You would think with a name like "AR-15.com" there would be technical forums to ask such things...Crazy, I know. I was going to post "In before the guy asking about gun shit gets basted for asking about gun shit on a gun forum but not in the right place"....but too late... 
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:07:17 PM EDT
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AIM Surplus has some good BCGs for a good price just an FYI
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:10:11 PM EDT
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Thanks for the advice. I read more into the PSA barrels made by FN and at that price point ($174), I will most likely go that route. Now it's if I want it in a PSA upper or not
My buddy built his rifle, so he has all the equipment I would need for the build. Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're building a rifle with a 16" barrel, I'm on the fence about high end barrels. It's a carbine, not a long range rifle. It's nice if you can afford the high end stuff, but I won't personally lose any sleep over it. I have a Spike's barrel (actually FN) on the one I built with all the toys. I'm happy with it. It was $260.00. If you want to build the upper, you will need some stuff. You need an AR combination tool, a torque wrench, a vise that is solidly mounted to a bench, and clamps for the upper receiver. If you don't mind spending the money, they're pretty easy to build and there are excellent instructions in the armory section. It's also fun. If you're willing, your ownership of those tools may lead to build parties in the future. Thanks for the advice. I read more into the PSA barrels made by FN and at that price point ($174), I will most likely go that route. Now it's if I want it in a PSA upper or not
My buddy built his rifle, so he has all the equipment I would need for the build. Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again How hard can they be ran? A lot harder than you can run it. Mil-spec is mil-spec. I beat the shit out of my rifle (it gets 30-45miles of use a week on top of shooting). RRA lower, PSA upper, and a cheap Chinese alu rail up front. Nothing in my setup has failed in the past 4 years that I have had my rifle. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:20:29 PM EDT
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I was going to post "In before the guy asking about gun shit gets basted for asking about gun shit on a gun forum but not in the right place"....but too late... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is nuts. You would think with a name like "AR-15.com" there would be technical forums to ask such things...Crazy, I know. I was going to post "In before the guy asking about gun shit gets basted for asking about gun shit on a gun forum but not in the right place"....but too late... Just saying, more quality answers and advice are to found in the forums that are in place for that very reason. Even you knew it. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:30:11 PM EDT
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Order the Bravo milspec receiver extension as well. Costs a little more but it's the good one, made from 7075 aluminum.
A chrome lined, cold hammer forged bbl. by FN, Bravo, Spikes, Daniel Defense is good if you don't want to spend the coin on the Noveske bbl. 1x7 twist is what all the cool kids get. Get a bolt carrier group that has all the specifications that Bravo, Daniel Defense or Spike's lists for their BCGs, or one from those folks. Things like Carpenter 158 bolt, HP/MPI, staked and loctited carrier key, o-ring on the extractor spring, etc. I belive the PSA premium bolt carrier group also meets all these specs. Other folks sell good ones too. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:31:56 PM EDT
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I have a 16" PSA Premium Upper that came with an Aimpoint PRO. No complaints whatsoever. I've taken it through two carbine courses with no issues. I also have a 12" PSA Premium Upper I used in a pistol that eats any ammo I feed it. PSA barreled uppers are GTG. ETA: Both of the above uppers mentioned above use FA BCGs and are mounted on billet lowers with RRA two stage triggers and ambi safeties. The pistol has an RRA pistol buffer tube assembly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again I have a 16" PSA Premium Upper that came with an Aimpoint PRO. No complaints whatsoever. I've taken it through two carbine courses with no issues. I also have a 12" PSA Premium Upper I used in a pistol that eats any ammo I feed it. PSA barreled uppers are GTG. ETA: Both of the above uppers mentioned above use FA BCGs and are mounted on billet lowers with RRA two stage triggers and ambi safeties. The pistol has an RRA pistol buffer tube assembly. So I know that FN makes their chrome lined bbls. But what about their SS barrels? Are you running those on your uppers or the cold hammer forged from FN? |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:34:21 PM EDT
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Just saying, more quality answers and advice are to found in the forums that are in place for that very reason. Even you knew it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is nuts. You would think with a name like "AR-15.com" there would be technical forums to ask such things...Crazy, I know. I was going to post "In before the guy asking about gun shit gets basted for asking about gun shit on a gun forum but not in the right place"....but too late... Just saying, more quality answers and advice are to found in the forums that are in place for that very reason. Even you knew it. because then he would get knowledge, not bs.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:34:45 PM EDT
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Order the Bravo milspec receiver extension as well. Costs a little more but it's the good one, made from 7075 aluminum. A chrome lined, cold hammer forged bbl. by FN, Bravo, Spikes, Daniel Defense is good if you don't want to spend the coin on the Noveske bbl. 1x7 twist is what all the cool kids get. Get a bolt carrier group that has all the specifications that Bravo, Daniel Defense or Spike's lists for their BCGs, or one from those folks. Things like Carpenter 158 bolt, HP/MPI, staked and loctited carrier key, o-ring on the extractor spring, etc. I belive the PSA premium bolt carrier group also meets all these specs. Other folks sell good ones too. thanks. the buffer and stock I already have, I got a spikes milspec for sub $30. PSA has their NiB BCG for $119 right now so may pull the trigger on that |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:36:35 PM EDT
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thanks. the buffer and stock I already have, I got a spikes milspec for sub $30. PSA has their NiB BCG for $119 right now so may pull the trigger on that Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Order the Bravo milspec receiver extension as well. Costs a little more but it's the good one, made from 7075 aluminum. A chrome lined, cold hammer forged bbl. by FN, Bravo, Spikes, Daniel Defense is good if you don't want to spend the coin on the Noveske bbl. 1x7 twist is what all the cool kids get. Get a bolt carrier group that has all the specifications that Bravo, Daniel Defense or Spike's lists for their BCGs, or one from those folks. Things like Carpenter 158 bolt, HP/MPI, staked and loctited carrier key, o-ring on the extractor spring, etc. I belive the PSA premium bolt carrier group also meets all these specs. Other folks sell good ones too. thanks. the buffer and stock I already have, I got a spikes milspec for sub $30. PSA has their NiB BCG for $119 right now so may pull the trigger on that AIM has a NiB for $99 http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XAIMBCGNIBBDG |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:38:09 PM EDT
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This is nuts. You would think with a name like "AR-15.com" there would be technical forums to ask such things...Crazy, I know. I was going to post "In before the guy asking about gun shit gets basted for asking about gun shit on a gun forum but not in the right place"....but too late... Just saying, more quality answers and advice are to found in the forums that are in place for that very reason. Even you knew it. because then he would get knowledge, not bs. I don't see why it's so difficult to just provide appropriate answers to questions, regardless of where they are posted. like I clearly stated, I am new to ARF. I haven't been through each and every sub forum to know where exactly to post such a question. Back to the bashing because I posted a specific question in an inappropriate location.. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:39:39 PM EDT
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thanks. the buffer and stock I already have, I got a spikes milspec for sub $30. PSA has their NiB BCG for $119 right now so may pull the trigger on that Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Order the Bravo milspec receiver extension as well. Costs a little more but it's the good one, made from 7075 aluminum. A chrome lined, cold hammer forged bbl. by FN, Bravo, Spikes, Daniel Defense is good if you don't want to spend the coin on the Noveske bbl. 1x7 twist is what all the cool kids get. Get a bolt carrier group that has all the specifications that Bravo, Daniel Defense or Spike's lists for their BCGs, or one from those folks. Things like Carpenter 158 bolt, HP/MPI, staked and loctited carrier key, o-ring on the extractor spring, etc. I belive the PSA premium bolt carrier group also meets all these specs. Other folks sell good ones too. thanks. the buffer and stock I already have, I got a spikes milspec for sub $30. PSA has their NiB BCG for $119 right now so may pull the trigger on that http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/14183/category/4345/ |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:39:52 PM EDT
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Order the Bravo milspec receiver extension as well. Costs a little more but it's the good one, made from 7075 aluminum. A chrome lined, cold hammer forged bbl. by FN, Bravo, Spikes, Daniel Defense is good if you don't want to spend the coin on the Noveske bbl. 1x7 twist is what all the cool kids get. Get a bolt carrier group that has all the specifications that Bravo, Daniel Defense or Spike's lists for their BCGs, or one from those folks. Things like Carpenter 158 bolt, HP/MPI, staked and loctited carrier key, o-ring on the extractor spring, etc. I belive the PSA premium bolt carrier group also meets all these specs. Other folks sell good ones too. thanks. the buffer and stock I already have, I got a spikes milspec for sub $30. PSA has their NiB BCG for $119 right now so may pull the trigger on that AIM has a NiB for $99 http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XAIMBCGNIBBDG Are these g2g? Im not familiar with who gets their parts from the same pool with their own stamping on it.. If I'd be better off spending the extra $20+ I do not mind |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:40:25 PM EDT
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Stripped lower of your choice for $65-125
Stag 2 rifle kit from ar15sales.com for $629 All the fun of assembling a lower without having to buy tools to build an upper. Word of advice, build cheap first. You won't really know what you want till your 2nd or 3rd try so don't blow big bucks on this one. Make friends with a bunch of AR guys and shoot everyone else's to see what you do and don't like before you do a custom build. ETA: Making your first one cheap also makes it easier to let your noob friends use it when you get the nice one done. 1 will not be enough. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:45:38 PM EDT
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Order the Bravo milspec receiver extension as well. Costs a little more but it's the good one, made from 7075 aluminum. A chrome lined, cold hammer forged bbl. by FN, Bravo, Spikes, Daniel Defense is good if you don't want to spend the coin on the Noveske bbl. 1x7 twist is what all the cool kids get. Get a bolt carrier group that has all the specifications that Bravo, Daniel Defense or Spike's lists for their BCGs, or one from those folks. Things like Carpenter 158 bolt, HP/MPI, staked and loctited carrier key, o-ring on the extractor spring, etc. I belive the PSA premium bolt carrier group also meets all these specs. Other folks sell good ones too. thanks. the buffer and stock I already have, I got a spikes milspec for sub $30. PSA has their NiB BCG for $119 right now so may pull the trigger on that AIM has a NiB for $99 http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XAIMBCGNIBBDG Are these g2g? Im not familiar with who gets their parts from the same pool with their own stamping on it.. If I'd be better off spending the extra $20+ I do not mind NiB is a great coating. I haven't heard any negative on these yet. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:48:15 PM EDT
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Order the Bravo milspec receiver extension as well. Costs a little more but it's the good one, made from 7075 aluminum. A chrome lined, cold hammer forged bbl. by FN, Bravo, Spikes, Daniel Defense is good if you don't want to spend the coin on the Noveske bbl. 1x7 twist is what all the cool kids get. Get a bolt carrier group that has all the specifications that Bravo, Daniel Defense or Spike's lists for their BCGs, or one from those folks. Things like Carpenter 158 bolt, HP/MPI, staked and loctited carrier key, o-ring on the extractor spring, etc. I belive the PSA premium bolt carrier group also meets all these specs. Other folks sell good ones too. thanks. the buffer and stock I already have, I got a spikes milspec for sub $30. PSA has their NiB BCG for $119 right now so may pull the trigger on that AIM has a NiB for $99 http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XAIMBCGNIBBDG Are these g2g? Im not familiar with who gets their parts from the same pool with their own stamping on it.. If I'd be better off spending the extra $20+ I do not mind NiB is a great coating. I haven't heard any negative on these yet. I've read great things about NiB as well. More or less interested about AIMs BCG |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:49:23 PM EDT
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I have two of their V2 NiB BCGs and they are solid.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:59:37 PM EDT
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If you're building a rifle with a 16" barrel, I'm on the fence about high end barrels. It's a carbine, not a long range rifle. It's nice if you can afford the high end stuff, but I won't personally lose any sleep over it. I have a Spike's barrel (actually FN) on the one I built with all the toys. I'm happy with it. It was $260.00. If you want to build the upper, you will need some stuff. You need an AR combination tool, a torque wrench, a vise that is solidly mounted to a bench, and clamps for the upper receiver. If you don't mind spending the money, they're pretty easy to build and there are excellent instructions in the armory section. It's also fun. If you're willing, your ownership of those tools may lead to build parties in the future. Thanks for the advice. I read more into the PSA barrels made by FN and at that price point ($174), I will most likely go that route. Now it's if I want it in a PSA upper or not
My buddy built his rifle, so he has all the equipment I would need for the build. Anyone with PSA builds? How hard can they be ran? Or would it be wise to spend the money on a BCM type upper? Thanks again I have an all PSA mid-length build but with a Daniel Defense BCG, the carrier being the heart and soul of the platform I wanted a good one. I also have a Gunfighter charging handle, Magpul CTR stock, MOE handguard and a BCM grip. It runs great, probably about 500 rounds through it so far, about 85% of which has been Tula 223, zero malfunctions. I realize that's not a high round count but I am more than confident in its performance and would trust my life to it without question |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 5:02:44 PM EDT
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This is nuts. You would think with a name like "AR-15.com" there would be technical forums to ask such things...Crazy, I know. I was going to post "In before the guy asking about gun shit gets basted for asking about gun shit on a gun forum but not in the right place"....but too late... Just saying, more quality answers and advice are to found in the forums that are in place for that very reason. Even you knew it. because then he would get knowledge, not bs. I don't see why it's so difficult to just provide appropriate answers to questions, regardless of where they are posted. like I clearly stated, I am new to ARF. I haven't been through each and every sub forum to know where exactly to post such a question. Back to the bashing because I posted a specific question in an inappropriate location.. Hey man, just trying to assist. You say you are new. The most knowledgeable guys on the site rarely if ever come to GD. They are in the tech forums. Good luck on building your gun. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 5:49:49 PM EDT
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Hookers.
And there was something else...... Ah yes! Blow! |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 5:55:06 PM EDT
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barrel and BCG are important.
everything else cheap as possible.* *triggers are nice too. |
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