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Posted: 7/21/2014 7:55:45 PM EDT
Pretty soon that sunken B-29 will be visible.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:01:55 PM EDT
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Looks like it is going the way of the Aral Sea. Ain't socialism great? Build a lake in the desert, siphon off the water to feed a resort area in the desert, what do you expect?
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:03:51 PM EDT
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Comments on that article are pretty fuckin derp.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:03:54 PM EDT
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Good news! I guess Harry Reid can power Las Vegas with all the new coal plants he decided not to stop from being build...oh, wait...
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:06:02 PM EDT
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The fucking comments are
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:06:29 PM EDT
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Our reservoirs are at high levels. Lots of rainfall and normal demand.
Las Vegas need more and more water? Who would have thunk it??????? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:06:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like it is going the way of the Aral Sea. Ain't socialism great? Build a lake in the desert, siphon off the water to feed a resort area in the desert, what do you expect? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:07:20 PM EDT
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Looks like it is going the way of the Aral Sea. Ain't socialism great? Build a lake in the desert, siphon off the water to feed a resort area in the desert, what do you expect? You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:08:30 PM EDT
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Lowest level ever?
It was once empty. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:09:47 PM EDT
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Lowest level ever? It was once empty. at one time it was just a river. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:15:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: at one time it was just a river. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lowest level ever? It was once empty. at one time it was just a river. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:16:35 PM EDT
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Koch brothers and Bush did this to oppress poor democrats.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:17:48 PM EDT
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Slow moving karma, fuck them for fucking the ones along the river when it dried up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lowest level ever? It was once empty. at one time it was just a river. Plus it destroyed the Inland Desert Salmon. Try to find one today. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:34:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Slow moving karma, fuck them for fucking the ones along the river when it dried up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lowest level ever? It was once empty. at one time it was just a river.  |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:39:47 PM EDT
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Don't know about this. Please expand on this
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Lowest level ever? It was once empty. at one time it was just a river.
He is speaking of those living along the last 40-50 or so miles of the river into Baja. After all of the water was allocated to farming and urban use in Commiefornia, Mexico and Arizona the river is empty just past the border. Up until a couple of years ago when they dumped the flood gates on various reservoirs along the river to mimic the spring floods the river hasn't reached the ocean in almost 50 years. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:40:51 PM EDT
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Look into the Colorado river delta rejuvenation project. We are purposely dumping our reservoirs into the Mexican desert and the Sea of Cortez right now. Edited...VA-gunnut
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:42:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like it is going the way of the Aral Sea. Ain't socialism great? Build a lake in the desert, siphon off the water to feed a resort area in the desert, what do you expect? You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. FYI for those unaware of this issue, it's called the Colorado River Compact. Overview here from the Colorado River Water Users Association. Text of the Colorado River Compact as signed by Hoover. (pdf from the Bureau of Reclamation) Getting more water for NV has been contentious. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:43:25 PM EDT
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He is speaking of those living along the last 40-50 or so miles of the river into Baja. After all of the water was allocated to farming and urban use in Commiefornia, Mexico and Arizona the river is empty just past the border. Up until a couple of years ago when they dumped the flood gates on various reservoirs along the river to mimic the spring floods the river hasn't reached the ocean in almost 50 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lowest level ever? It was once empty. at one time it was just a river.
He is speaking of those living along the last 40-50 or so miles of the river into Baja. After all of the water was allocated to farming and urban use in Commiefornia, Mexico and Arizona the river is empty just past the border. Up until a couple of years ago when they dumped the flood gates on various reservoirs along the river to mimic the spring floods the river hasn't reached the ocean in almost 50 years. They did that about a month ago, and probably released a large amount of water from Mead. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:46:39 PM EDT
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You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like it is going the way of the Aral Sea. Ain't socialism great? Build a lake in the desert, siphon off the water to feed a resort area in the desert, what do you expect? You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. Back in the late 70's or early 80's SoCal was working on a plan to build another canal system to help with the fresh water shortages. They were proposing building a waterway from the Columbia River to LA. They were very surprised when the states of the Columbia River Basin told them to go fuck themselves. I clipped the newspaper article out and kept it for years. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:48:32 PM EDT
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You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like it is going the way of the Aral Sea. Ain't socialism great? Build a lake in the desert, siphon off the water to feed a resort area in the desert, what do you expect? You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. I stand corrected on the water to Cali part. My bad, while typing I clearly dropped the part about California, and didn't specify the electricity that Nevada uses. But I still think the part about socialism holds true. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:52:03 PM EDT
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Back in the late 70's or early 80's SoCal was working on a plan to build another canal system to help with the fresh water shortages. They were proposing building a waterway from the Columbia River to LA. They were very surprised when the states of the Columbia River Basin told them to go fuck themselves. I clipped the newspaper article out and kept it for years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like it is going the way of the Aral Sea. Ain't socialism great? Build a lake in the desert, siphon off the water to feed a resort area in the desert, what do you expect? You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. Back in the late 70's or early 80's SoCal was working on a plan to build another canal system to help with the fresh water shortages. They were proposing building a waterway from the Columbia River to LA. They were very surprised when the states of the Columbia River Basin told them to go fuck themselves. I clipped the newspaper article out and kept it for years. Hey where did the northern states get the temerity to do that? That is the same thing NYC did with upstate NY. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:52:09 PM EDT
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Plus it destroyed the Inland Desert Salmon. Try to find one today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lowest level ever? It was once empty. at one time it was just a river. Plus it destroyed the Inland Desert Salmon. Try to find one today. Was the Salmon even considered before the dam was built ? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:52:47 PM EDT
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Back in the late 70's or early 80's SoCal was working on a plan to build another canal system to help with the fresh water shortages. They were proposing building a waterway from the Columbia River to LA. They were very surprised when the states of the Columbia River Basin told them to go fuck themselves. I clipped the newspaper article out and kept it for years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like it is going the way of the Aral Sea. Ain't socialism great? Build a lake in the desert, siphon off the water to feed a resort area in the desert, what do you expect? You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. Back in the late 70's or early 80's SoCal was working on a plan to build another canal system to help with the fresh water shortages. They were proposing building a waterway from the Columbia River to LA. They were very surprised when the states of the Columbia River Basin told them to go fuck themselves. I clipped the newspaper article out and kept it for years. I live right on the Columbia, (98801) and would love to see that. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:53:53 PM EDT
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Lowest level ever? It was once empty. at one time it was just a river. Plus it destroyed the Inland Desert Salmon. Try to find one today. Was the Salmon even considered before the dam was built ? You kidding? the first half of the 20th century was nothing like the last half of the 20th when it came to dams and the environment. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:56:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is speaking of those living along the last 40-50 or so miles of the river into Baja. After all of the water was allocated to farming and urban use in Commiefornia, Mexico and Arizona the river is empty just past the border. Up until a couple of years ago when they dumped the flood gates on various reservoirs along the river to mimic the spring floods the river hasn't reached the ocean in almost 50 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: tree removed... Slow moving karma, fuck them for fucking the ones along the river when it dried up. He is speaking of those living along the last 40-50 or so miles of the river into Baja. After all of the water was allocated to farming and urban use in Commiefornia, Mexico and Arizona the river is empty just past the border. Up until a couple of years ago when they dumped the flood gates on various reservoirs along the river to mimic the spring floods the river hasn't reached the ocean in almost 50 years. What I was guessing would happen, are we talking extreme to the point towns had to be abandon because of it or anything like that? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:58:58 PM EDT
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Back in the late 70's or early 80's SoCal was working on a plan to build another canal system to help with the fresh water shortages. They were proposing building a waterway from the Columbia River to LA. They were very surprised when the states of the Columbia River Basin told them to go fuck themselves. I clipped the newspaper article out and kept it for years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like it is going the way of the Aral Sea. Ain't socialism great? Build a lake in the desert, siphon off the water to feed a resort area in the desert, what do you expect? You have no idea what you are talking about. The lake is empty due to drought and century old water allocation rights. Nevada's (lake mead) portion of the water is very small. reflecting the population of Nevada when the rights were written. Most of it goes to California. If there is anyone to blame here they should be near the top of the list. They have little to no water restriction or conservation. Back in the late 70's or early 80's SoCal was working on a plan to build another canal system to help with the fresh water shortages. They were proposing building a waterway from the Columbia River to LA. They were very surprised when the states of the Columbia River Basin told them to go fuck themselves. I clipped the newspaper article out and kept it for years. They are restricting water usage in Commiefornia now because of some bullshit minnow that is endangered. They don't need the PNW to fuck them, they fuck themselves. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:00:00 PM EDT
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What I was guessing would happen, are we talking extreme to the point towns had to be abandon because of it or anything like that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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tree removed...
Slow moving karma, fuck them for fucking the ones along the river when it dried up.
He is speaking of those living along the last 40-50 or so miles of the river into Baja. After all of the water was allocated to farming and urban use in Commiefornia, Mexico and Arizona the river is empty just past the border. Up until a couple of years ago when they dumped the flood gates on various reservoirs along the river to mimic the spring floods the river hasn't reached the ocean in almost 50 years. What I was guessing would happen, are we talking extreme to the point towns had to be abandon because of it or anything like that? In small isolated sections, yes. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:02:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:03:18 PM EDT
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Building a city with 10 million ish people in what is for all intents and purposes a fucking desert doesn't sound like a really good idea.
Desalination plants are their only real hope for fresh water. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:07:28 PM EDT
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Too many people
More each day It is only going to get worse Population control is the only answer |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:08:05 PM EDT
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Building a city with 10 million ish people in what is for all intents and purposes a fucking desert doesn't sound like a really good idea. Desalination plants are their only real hope for fresh water. Las Vegas has just a little over 2 million residents. Every drop of water used in Southern Nevada, short of water used for landscaping which is now over 90% desert zero scape is recycled and deposited back into the lake. The water usage here now, even with the increased population is less than it was 30 years ago. Arizona is in a similar situation, they recycle a great amount of their water. As stated above, it is about water allocation rights. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:09:07 PM EDT
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To many people out west..head east son...head east...
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:18:25 PM EDT
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Great place to have a metal detector.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:19:08 PM EDT
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Seldom Seen, Bonnie, Doc Sarvis and George are smiling somewhere.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:20:43 PM EDT
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Great place to have a metal detector. Imagine the hauls from the boating accidents! 
BRB, gonna head to Nevada!
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:21:28 PM EDT
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Las Vegas has just a little over 2 million residents. Every drop of water used in Southern Nevada, short of water used for landscaping which is now over 90% desert zero scape is recycled and deposited back into the lake. The water usage here now, even with the increased population is less than it was 30 years ago. Arizona is in a similar situation, they recycle a great amount of their water. As stated above, it is about water allocation rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Building a city with 10 million ish people in what is for all intents and purposes a fucking desert doesn't sound like a really good idea. Desalination plants are their only real hope for fresh water. Las Vegas has just a little over 2 million residents. Every drop of water used in Southern Nevada, short of water used for landscaping which is now over 90% desert zero scape is recycled and deposited back into the lake. The water usage here now, even with the increased population is less than it was 30 years ago. Arizona is in a similar situation, they recycle a great amount of their water. As stated above, it is about water allocation rights. I should have been a little clearer - I was thinking of SoCal more than I was LV. SoCal has an enormous need for fresh water- can't have brown lawns and stinky toilets. As generally arid as the SW is in total to have that much concentration of people an alternative source of water will have to be found (or growth has to curtailed and even cut back and that isn't likely to happen anytime soon.) |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:26:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Too many people More each day It is only going to get worse Population control is the only answer Almost everything progressives bitch about could be solved with a smaller population.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:32:49 PM EDT
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Lowest level ever? It was once empty. at one time it was just a river. Plus it destroyed the Inland Desert Salmon. Try to find one today. Was the Salmon even considered before the dam was built ? People were starving and losing their homes and farms when the dam was built. Some fish was the least of their worries. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:35:26 PM EDT
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Koch brothers and Bush did this to oppress poor democrats. Halliburton Weather Machine. 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:40:48 PM EDT
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Too many people More each day It is only going to get worse Population control is the only answer Almost everything progressives bitch about could be solved with a smaller population. The thought has occurred to them... 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:42:26 PM EDT
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If only there were some natural means for prices, supply, and demand to interact and regulate eachother.
Yes, I know. Pure anarchism to suggest such poppycock. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:44:28 PM EDT
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Where can I get some dam bait?
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:47:03 PM EDT
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Wait...there is a drought... In a desert? Who would have seen that coming?
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:48:39 PM EDT
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It will fill back up after a couple years of great snow pack, and they will move on to something else to fearmonger like the ozone or acid rain.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:53:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:58:19 PM EDT
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Too many people More each day It is only going to get worse Population control is the only answer Almost everything progressives bitch about could be solved with a smaller population. Not really. But we might as well get rid of the liberals to make sure. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:01:44 PM EDT
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I should have been a little clearer - I was thinking of SoCal more than I was LV. SoCal has an enormous need for fresh water- can't have brown lawns and stinky toilets. As generally arid as the SW is in total to have that much concentration of people an alternative source of water will have to be found (or growth has to curtailed and even cut back and that isn't likely to happen anytime soon.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Building a city with 10 million ish people in what is for all intents and purposes a fucking desert doesn't sound like a really good idea. Desalination plants are their only real hope for fresh water. Las Vegas has just a little over 2 million residents. Every drop of water used in Southern Nevada, short of water used for landscaping which is now over 90% desert zero scape is recycled and deposited back into the lake. The water usage here now, even with the increased population is less than it was 30 years ago. Arizona is in a similar situation, they recycle a great amount of their water. As stated above, it is about water allocation rights. I should have been a little clearer - I was thinking of SoCal more than I was LV. SoCal has an enormous need for fresh water- can't have brown lawns and stinky toilets. As generally arid as the SW is in total to have that much concentration of people an alternative source of water will have to be found (or growth has to curtailed and even cut back and that isn't likely to happen anytime soon.) Yes they do, however as long as they have the rights to the lions share of the water coming out of the Colorado they take what they want, flush what they want, and fuck everyone else. 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:04:15 PM EDT
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why doesnt CAlifornia use Delaination plants like Isreali's do?
They use Nuke power and simultaniously desalinate. what the fuck is the problem? we have Californians moving here saying that if they could they'd destroy out Nuke plant. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:09:12 PM EDT
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Isnt that the point of this lake.. aka reservoir.. to be there when it is NEEDED in a time like this. It will come back, but all it is is a giant accumulator for periods of drought. How dare it be used for its intended purpose.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:23:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Las Vegas has just a little over 2 million residents. Every drop of water used in Southern Nevada, short of water used for landscaping which is now over 90% desert zero scape is recycled and deposited back into the lake. The water usage here now, even with the increased population is less than it was 30 years ago. Arizona is in a similar situation, they recycle a great amount of their water. As stated above, it is about water allocation rights. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Building a city with 10 million ish people in what is for all intents and purposes a fucking desert doesn't sound like a really good idea. Desalination plants are their only real hope for fresh water. Las Vegas has just a little over 2 million residents. Every drop of water used in Southern Nevada, short of water used for landscaping which is now over 90% desert zero scape is recycled and deposited back into the lake. The water usage here now, even with the increased population is less than it was 30 years ago. Arizona is in a similar situation, they recycle a great amount of their water. As stated above, it is about water allocation rights. Not to mention Harry's new town out in mesquite. It's got quite a few as well. In fact, I wonder how much of that less water usage is due to chasing out all the ranchers and farmers for the last 30 years? ETA- ROFL, your water usage line is classic, that water use is not less, it's less PER CAPITA. There's still more people, a net positive in use even with a decrease in per capita use. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:28:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isnt that the point of this lake.. aka reservoir.. to be there when it is NEEDED in a time like this. It will come back, but all it is is a giant accumulator for periods of drought. How dare it be used for its intended purpose. Or are you thinking along a bigger time scale, sure it'll fill back up, maybe 100' to it's highest point... But what's it going to take, 50 years? 1000 years? Assuming use is not higher than the recharge rate? |
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