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Link Posted: 7/18/2014 6:40:18 PM EDT
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Yeah, well, it's easier for me to spank it than it is to get my wife to help but some things really are worth the effort.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 7:58:41 PM EDT
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Ok, that's pretty bad ass. Neat build OP.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 8:28:10 PM EDT
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sweet OP!
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 8:34:44 PM EDT
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Man, i cant get this build out of my head.
What size is the trailer you built?
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 8:37:07 PM EDT
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May need to try this soon!!!!
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 8:42:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/18/2014 8:43:03 PM EDT
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Great job!
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 9:12:52 PM EDT
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That is sweet! If I tried to make something like that, it would end up out in the woods in a smoldering pile and I'd be at the camper store spending money.



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BTDT...mine became a victim of mold..

My BUILD THREAD

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/648758__ARCHIVED_THREAD____B_O_T___bug_out_trailer__Build_Thread_____PICS__.html&page=1

after I took a chainsaw too it.



mold behind one of my exterior diamond plate panels



Rear section of wood removed.



Removed subflooring and insulation, that green is mold



Front wall tore apart, i just Kreg Jig to help build it.



The one only maiden voyage was its shake down run



Link Posted: 7/18/2014 9:13:51 PM EDT
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A lot of people buy a trailer kit from Harbor Freight or Northern Tool.

The Harbor Freight kits are sized for a 4 foot by 8 foot platform, which makes it a little easier to fit your plywood (since plywood comes in 4 foot wide sheets), but standard mattresses are about 54 inches wide, so they won't fit in a Teardrop built on a Harbor Freight trailer kit.

The Northern Tool trailer kits are a little more expensive, but they seem to be built a little better and are available in a 5 foot by 8 foot size.  The 5 foot width means you'll be cutting the plywood to a 5 foot length and turning it sideways on the trailer (less efficient use of your plywood sheets), but a standard full-size mattress will fit in a Teardrop built on the Northern Tool 5 foot by 8 foot trailer.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 9:17:05 PM EDT
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A lot of people buy a trailer kit from Harbor Freight or Northern Tool.

The Harbor Freight kits are sized for a 4 foot by 8 foot platform, which makes it a little easier to fit your plywood (since plywood comes in 4 foot wide sheets), but standard mattresses are about 54 inches wide, so they won't fit in a Teardrop built on a Harbor Freight trailer kit.

The Northern Tool trailer kits are a little more expensive, but they seem to be built a little better and are available in a 5 foot by 8 foot size.  The 5 foot width means you'll be cutting the plywood to a 5 foot length and turning it sideways on the trailer (less efficient use of your plywood sheets), but a standard full-size mattress will fit in a Teardrop built on the Northern Tool 5 foot by 8 foot trailer.
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What size is the trailer you built?


A lot of people buy a trailer kit from Harbor Freight or Northern Tool.

The Harbor Freight kits are sized for a 4 foot by 8 foot platform, which makes it a little easier to fit your plywood (since plywood comes in 4 foot wide sheets), but standard mattresses are about 54 inches wide, so they won't fit in a Teardrop built on a Harbor Freight trailer kit.

The Northern Tool trailer kits are a little more expensive, but they seem to be built a little better and are available in a 5 foot by 8 foot size.  The 5 foot width means you'll be cutting the plywood to a 5 foot length and turning it sideways on the trailer (less efficient use of your plywood sheets), but a standard full-size mattress will fit in a Teardrop built on the Northern Tool 5 foot by 8 foot trailer.


Great info.
Thank you sir.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 9:38:21 PM EDT
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That's cool!!!
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 9:39:04 PM EDT
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Great info.
Thank you sir.
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Man, i cant get this build out of my head.
What size is the trailer you built?


A lot of people buy a trailer kit from Harbor Freight or Northern Tool.

The Harbor Freight kits are sized for a 4 foot by 8 foot platform, which makes it a little easier to fit your plywood (since plywood comes in 4 foot wide sheets), but standard mattresses are about 54 inches wide, so they won't fit in a Teardrop built on a Harbor Freight trailer kit.

The Northern Tool trailer kits are a little more expensive, but they seem to be built a little better and are available in a 5 foot by 8 foot size.  The 5 foot width means you'll be cutting the plywood to a 5 foot length and turning it sideways on the trailer (less efficient use of your plywood sheets), but a standard full-size mattress will fit in a Teardrop built on the Northern Tool 5 foot by 8 foot trailer.


Great info.
Thank you sir.


You're welcome.

The Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailers forum has a lot of information about building them.

OP's trailer appears to be a Benroy type.

Kharn posted pictures of a Weekender type.

Then there's the classic Cub type, which is similar to the Weekender, but has elliptical curves on the edges of the sides (forming a teardrop shape), instead of the straight lines connected at various angles on the Weekender's sides.

The Cub and Weekender allow building the trailer body a little longer than the platform of the trailer, since the body angles up and forward at the front edge of the trailer platform, and up and aft at the rear edge of the trailer platform.  But the extra angles/curves make them a little more complicated to build.

ETA:  I forgot about the Kenskill type, which looks kind of like a cross between the Benroy and the Cub (front shaped sort of like the Cub, back shaped sort of like the Benroy).
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 4:03:35 AM EDT
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The Harbor Freight kits are sized for a 4 foot by 8 foot platform, which makes it a little easier to fit your plywood (since plywood comes in 4 foot wide sheets), but standard mattresses are about 54 inches wide, so they won't fit in a Teardrop built on a Harbor Freight trailer kit.

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What size is the trailer you built?


The Harbor Freight kits are sized for a 4 foot by 8 foot platform, which makes it a little easier to fit your plywood (since plywood comes in 4 foot wide sheets), but standard mattresses are about 54 inches wide, so they won't fit in a Teardrop built on a Harbor Freight trailer kit.



JPN is correct. I started my layout using the matress dimensions. The trailer I built is 58" wide and 12' 8" long.
Including the space for bicycles.
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 4:07:17 AM EDT
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So inside is just the matress and the wall cabinets?
Any additonal stowage?

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So inside is just the matress and the wall cabinets?
Any additonal stowage?

Correct, the inside is just the bed and storage. As much or as little as you like. Mine has 3 20x20x10" forward lower cabinets (outer two are missing a bit for that bevel), plus two 20x10x10 and one 20x10x5" compartments for small things at the headboard, and one 60x15x19" compartment (which I'm dividing in two) over the foot of the bed, and there's a 44x17x9 storage box under the mattress (which pokes down below the trailer frame). That's about 25 cubic feet of storage space, plus there's another two 20x10x10 open shelves at the headboard for the stuff we want ready access to (CPAPs, cellphones, books, watch, etc) while sleeping. There's also the huge tongue box you can see in my pictures. I picked the Weekender profile because it was designed for the forward storage, and being 10' long, the galley bulkhead is vertical (8' trailers will have some of the galley cabinets over your feet) so that I could have that huge storage compartment at the foot of the bed. Many people just do a shelf at the foot of the bed and a small ledge at the front, but since my dad's a cabinet maker, he helped me go a little nuts.

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It would have been easier to buy one.

Incredibly easy, but here's CampInn's price list: Camp Inn, and their 500 and 550 trailers are only 8' long, but their construction materials and methods are what you'd expect from a custom-built trailer that will last a long time.
Go Little Guy is considerably cheaper, but from my friends' experience, they use basically MDF under a skin for the walls. If the skin gets any sort of cut or penetration, water will get inside and ruin the MDF, trashing your entire trailer.

You can use a second mortgage to pay for an RV if it has both a bathroom and cooking facilities, since a teardrop doesn't, you have to finance it as an automotive (if they're a high end manufacturer and NADA listed) or personal loan, which have a shorter term and higher interest rate.

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Man, i cant get this build out of my head.
What size is the trailer you built?

Mine is 114" long (body, not including tongue box or tongue), 62" wide (60.5" interior, so a complete queen mattress can easily drop in, many 5' trailers actually have 2" shaved off the side of the mattress or they just squeeze it in, which makes changing the sheets a pain), and 48" tall (with 38" above the 6" foam mattress, lost ~4" due to the raised bed and the roof insulation), it is built on a Harbor Freight 4x8" trailer.

Kharn
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 6:43:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/19/2014 7:30:42 AM EDT
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Benroy type




Kenskill type




Cub type




Weekender type




About ten years ago, I was planning to built a Cub, and build it as light as possible.  My daily driver was a VW Rabbit convertible, that I had swapped a 1.6 diesel and 5 speed into.  I had used it to tow a 12 foot sailboat, so I knew I would have to build the teardrop as light as possible.  Bought the Harbor Freight 4' by 8' trailer kit with the 12 inch four lug wheels (lightest 4' by 8' trailer kit I could find), was a member of a teardrop forum, and had downloaded templates that I could scale up to lay out the sides.  Would have been less space inside than in a Benroy, but putting the lightest load on the tow vehicle was the main goal.

Then, as the old saying goes... "shit happened", and that project had to be abandoned.

Been thinking about trying again, after some other projects are completed.  Now, my daily driver is a diesel Jetta, and I think that a lightly built Weekender would be a better fit for it.  Or... if I talk myself into buying a Jeep, the Northern Tool 5' by 8' trailers apparently use the same lug pattern as YJ and newer Jeeps.  People have built teardrops on those trailers and made various mods to allow using them offroad.
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 7:40:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/19/2014 7:51:56 AM EDT
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For those considering building one, the biggest recommendations I have read from people that built one, and then built a second () after figuring out the problems with their first were:
1) A door on each side, no one likes climbing over someone else in order to get out
2) Go at least 54 or, even better, 60" wide on the interior, for a full or queen-sized bed, 48" wide just isn't very big, add a hot summer evening and you'll want some space from your partner.
3) The RV doors are expensive, around $330 after shipping per door, but all you have to do is cut out the hole and stick it in. Homemade doors take a ton of work to do right and prevent leaks.

Kharn
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 7:59:58 AM EDT
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For those considering building one, the biggest recommendations I have read from people that built one, and then built a second () after figuring out the problems with their first were:
1) A door on each side, no one likes climbing over someone else in order to get out
2) Go at least 54 or, even better, 60" wide on the interior, for a full or queen-sized bed, 48" wide just isn't very big, add a hot summer evening and you'll want some space from your partner.
3) The RV doors are expensive, around $330 after shipping per door, but all you have to do is cut out the hole and stick it in. Homemade doors take a ton of work to do right and prevent leaks.

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Having built one, I can say this is all true ^^^^^^^^^^^^^...Remember that when installing the doors, the hinge goes towards the front *many people dont install them correctly*.

I had no intent in building my own doors, I had a hell a time with the rear hatch, pre-made doors with frames is the way to go.

The reason most go 48" is the size of the wood and with going bigger, youll end up with a seam.


Link Posted: 7/19/2014 8:38:13 AM EDT
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I have researched this quite a bit. You can buy 5'X10' sheets of plywood. You will have to put effort into finding it (looking at places other than home depot and lowes) but it is available.

One of my neighbors works for a lumber company and fortunately they get it by the box car load. I just need to get motivated and get with it.
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 8:40:10 AM EDT
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Mad props, OP. You got talents I wish I had.
Link Posted: 7/20/2014 5:43:49 AM EDT
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BTDT...mine became a victim of mold..

My BUILD THREAD

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/648758__ARCHIVED_THREAD____B_O_T___bug_out_trailer__Build_Thread_____PICS__.html&page=1

after I took a chainsaw too it.

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_803-1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_803-1.jpg</a>

mold behind one of my exterior diamond plate panels

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_238.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_238.jpg</a>

Rear section of wood removed.

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_191.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_191.jpg</a>

Removed subflooring and insulation, that green is mold

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_967.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_967.jpg</a>

Front wall tore apart, i just Kreg Jig to help build it.

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/ruinedtrailer2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/ruinedtrailer2.jpg</a>

The one only maiden voyage was its shake down run

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_485.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_485.jpg</a>

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That is sweet! If I tried to make something like that, it would end up out in the woods in a smoldering pile and I'd be at the camper store spending money.





BTDT...mine became a victim of mold..

My BUILD THREAD

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/648758__ARCHIVED_THREAD____B_O_T___bug_out_trailer__Build_Thread_____PICS__.html&page=1

after I took a chainsaw too it.

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_803-1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_803-1.jpg</a>

mold behind one of my exterior diamond plate panels

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_238.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_238.jpg</a>

Rear section of wood removed.

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_191.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_191.jpg</a>

Removed subflooring and insulation, that green is mold

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_967.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_967.jpg</a>

Front wall tore apart, i just Kreg Jig to help build it.

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/ruinedtrailer2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/ruinedtrailer2.jpg</a>

The one only maiden voyage was its shake down run

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/die-tryin/media/Expedition%20Camper/cid_485.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/Expedition%20Camper/cid_485.jpg</a>

How did you store it that mold got it? I intend to garage mine, but I've considered adding a roof off the back of my shed to park it under.

Kharn
Link Posted: 7/20/2014 6:12:54 AM EDT
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How did you store it that mold got it? I intend to garage mine, but I've considered adding a roof off the back of my shed to park it under.

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Mine was actually doomed from the start and I didnt realize it.

There was multiple factors that involved the mold, none of them involved the finished project, when I got done building it, it was air tight of any leaks,,,but the problems started way before.

There was a few factors that involved the mold.

1) I used indoor  finished wood, I thought this would move the project along quicker as I wouldnt have to sand any of it. I did use tons of Kilz coatings and sealants all over it, but didnt matter. It was water tight, so no water got in on the finished project.

2) After the fact, I talked to the Lowes manager about the project, he stated that it is possible the mold was in there when they laminated the wood plys from the factory. I guess its possible

3) I built this in "less than ideal" conditions *see pic below*, we had monsoons that summer I built this, there were many days we spent more time drying everything out then actually working.

4) There are 2 types of buildings, loose construction and tight construction - Loose would be typical of houses built in the 20s etc. They were drafty but allowed air to circulate, my camper was built with Tight Construction, meaning it was pretty much air and water tight was no air flowing, this is allowed the mold to grow during the hot and humid summers. I tried to crack the windows and roof vent but I had a tarp on it as well, so no air circulated.

This is the view of the "work" zone..we did our best to keep things dry but when you get wind and rain from all directions, there is only so much you can do.


Link Posted: 7/20/2014 6:32:06 AM EDT
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Very cool!!
Link Posted: 7/25/2014 12:35:11 PM EDT
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Yeah, well, it's easier for me to spank it than it is to get my wife to help but some things really are worth the effort.
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It would have been easier to buy one.

Yeah, well, it's easier for me to spank it than it is to get my wife to help but some things really are worth the effort.




Well said, and awesome work!
Link Posted: 7/25/2014 12:41:53 PM EDT
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My God, that is amazing!  I have so much admiration for people who can actually do things with their hands, make something out of nothing.  You're why mankind survives and advances.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:10:03 PM EDT
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Building stuff is cool.  Nice work, guys!!
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:11:42 PM EDT
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Op delivers..
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No shit, great job!
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Awesome !
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 11:13:45 AM EDT
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Thanks all y'all.  My wife and I just got back from a night in taos with the camper. It sure is handy.
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The kitchen and rear hatch were the most labor intensive parts of this project. Especially the placement of the gas struts that hold the hatch up. FML. For like two days on the struts.

Beginning framework for cabinets to include: two drawers. Propane and battery space. And a pull out ice chest.

Also starting the arrangement of the galley hatch. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg10_zps0cccc49c.jpg

This is the drawer for the ice chest. It's the same birch ply with rabbet jointed corners and a dado'd aluminum bottom. The other two drawers are made the same way. Sorry, no dovetails.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg7_zps05f1d9f0.jpg

Skipping forward a bit.http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg13_zps5ab9b91e.jpg

A bit more.....http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg7_zps5522fe41.jpg

Galley lid ribs cut.http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg2_zps579ad7fe.jpg

Spars......http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg3_zps161eae7d.jpghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg4_zpsa1d9982d.jpg

Hinge and lighting conduit for the hatch lights.http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg4_zpsfc987476.jpghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg1_zps95bd02dc.jpg

Galley hatch in place before aluminum skin.http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg6_zps79289396.jpg

FIRE!!!!!http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg5_zps2b674d1f.jpg

And finally, here she is in her natural habitat. The mountains of beautiful New Mexico. (Haters be damned)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg7_zps01490b5d.jpghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg8_zpsea1f3ff3.jpg



http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg9_zpsc7300f83.jpghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg13_zps8331b701.jpg



Happy wife. Happy life. Thanks honey for letting me go totally batshit crazy in the garage for seven months.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg14_zpsb2f1c003.jpghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/pcrow5/imagejpg10_zps52c995e5.jpg
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Very , very nice ....great work



 
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Very cool. I wasnt trying to hi-jack your thread, but I just wanted to show the "otherside" of a project like this. They arent just slapped together and even the best laid plans can fail. IMO,,those that build one and it is successful, its a win in my book. While mine was structurally sound and it went well as a build, it ultimately failed due to the mold problem.  

I agree about the kitchen area and Hatch being the most expensive and most work. We saved that for last because the whole time we were doing the rest of the build, we were working on ideas for the rear..We went thru 3 re-designs to get one that we liked. EVen the struts alone was a chore, What length, What pound rating, which way to mount them, etc etc etc. Too stiff and you could rip them outa the boards or take too much effort to close,,to light and they wont hold the door open. lol
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