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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:29:37 PM EDT
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Contractors = paid by private companies.
Soldiers= Paid by a recognised state and a citizen of that state. Mercenaries= Paid by same recognised state but not a citizen. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have a statutory relationship with the government that makes them military personnel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What would you consider a privateer? Operating under a flag but for personal profit and not as a member of the organized military. Depends on whether they are for or against me. In the modern sense, contractors. They have a statutory relationship with the government that makes them military personnel. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:30:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: See the additional protocol of 1977 to the Geneva Convention of 1949. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The term contractor is literally used to describe people who can't be described as mercenaries for legal reasons. Mercenary is not. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Term+of+Art Term of art: A word or phrase that has special meaning in a particular context....A term of art is a word or phrase that has a particular meaning. Terms of art abound in the law. See the additional protocol of 1977 to the Geneva Convention of 1949. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:30:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well blood stained gold or direct deposit work too. No. How can you roll your naked body on gold or direct deposit forms? Thats stupid. It only counts as contracting if its 100s.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:31:24 PM EDT
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I'm not sure how international law addresses it but a privateer in the US operates by Act of Congress (Letter of Marque). Of course in their time they were treated as pirates when captured.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:31:46 PM EDT
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No. How can you roll your naked body on gold or direct deposit forms? Thats stupid. It only counts as contracting if its 100s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well blood stained gold or direct deposit work too. No. How can you roll your naked body on gold or direct deposit forms? Thats stupid. It only counts as contracting if its 100s. Saw it on Duck Tales. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:32:32 PM EDT
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Contractors = paid by private companies. Soldiers= Paid by a recognised state and a citizen of that state. Mercenaries= Paid by same recognised state but not a citizen. What do you call a US citizen working the DoS WPPS contract?! |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:35:51 PM EDT
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Which would be a...contract. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What would you consider a privateer? Operating under a flag but for personal profit and not as a member of the organized military. Depends on whether they are for or against me. In the modern sense, contractors. They have a statutory relationship with the government that makes them military personnel. Sure. But not all contacts are the same. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:36:59 PM EDT
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What do private contracting companies that work for the US do? Are they purely security or do they go on missions?
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:38:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:40:59 PM EDT
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What do private contracting companies that work for the US do? Are they purely security or do they go on missions? Officially, they only provide security. I know of at least one instance of an SF rounding up some Former Action Guys he served with in the past and taking them on a raid. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:44:31 PM EDT
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What do you call a US citizen working the DoS WPPS contract?! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Contractors = paid by private companies. Soldiers= Paid by a recognised state and a citizen of that state. Mercenaries= Paid by same recognised state but not a citizen. What do you call a US citizen working the DoS WPPS contract?! Security guard |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:46:22 PM EDT
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Static security
Host Nation forces training Convoy security Forensic evidence gathering Poppy eradication Personal protection details Intelligence Most anything Soldiers or Marines do EXCEPT for direct action,Contractors get in plenty of fights,but never on purpose. Some travel with and are embedded with U.S. units. Quote HistoryQuoted:
What do private contracting companies that work for the US do? Are they purely security or do they go on missions? |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:46:49 PM EDT
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Contractors = paid by private companies. Soldiers= Paid by a recognised state and a citizen of that state. Mercenaries= Paid by same recognised state but not a citizen. What do you call a US citizen working the DoS WPPS contract?! Security guard His definitions are bullshit. That's what I'm pointing out. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:53:07 PM EDT
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What do you call a US citizen working the DoS WPPS contract?! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Contractors = paid by private companies. Soldiers= Paid by a recognised state and a citizen of that state. Mercenaries= Paid by same recognised state but not a citizen. What do you call a US citizen working the DoS WPPS contract?! used to call him " STG1" 
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Posted: 7/6/2014 8:11:41 PM EDT
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So where does a professional force of paid men that signed a contract specifying benefits and pay for a given term of service fall?
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Posted: 7/6/2014 8:52:25 PM EDT
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So where does a professional force of paid men that signed a contract specifying benefits and pay for a given term of service fall? Depends on the contract and the parties. Could be anything. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 8:57:55 PM EDT
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Contractors = paid by private companies. Soldiers= Paid by a recognized state and a citizen of that state. Mercenaries= Paid by same recognized state but not a citizen. I corrected your spelling, but otherwise this is what I understood. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 9:31:58 PM EDT
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Mercenaires engage in offensive actions. "Contractors" are hired for defensive/security purposes, and don't engage in unprovoked offensive actions. Basically. Companies identified as PMC's by the UN and themselves have conducted offensive actions in lots of part of the world. Bosnia, Sieara(sp?) Leon and Liberia come to mind off the top of my head. The term contractor and mercenary have almost no difference in fact, more of a re branding attempt. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 9:42:34 PM EDT
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Well blood stained gold or direct deposit work too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Right just more paperwork. Only if by paperwork you mean deliciously blood stained 100 dollars bills. Well blood stained gold or direct deposit work too. I am partial to direct deposit, It's too damn hard to get blood stained gold from the ATM. (It jams the machine up) |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 9:58:45 PM EDT
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us "servicemen" currently all do volunteer and the do get paid. the only diff seems to be that one gets paid more and can arbitrarily quit.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 10:16:00 PM EDT
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The difference is in the blood oil.
You have to taste it to know the difference. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 10:20:32 PM EDT
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The difference is in the blood oil. You have to taste it to know the difference. Blood oil has a more distinct taste to it. |
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Posted: 7/6/2014 11:29:47 PM EDT
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Soldiers operate under orders.
Contractors operate under contracts. Mercenary is merely a meaningless word. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:01:51 AM EDT
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Blood oil has a more distinct taste to it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The difference is in the blood oil. You have to taste it to know the difference. Blood oil has a more distinct taste to it. I like the way it squishes between my toes while I'm rolling in my stained hundos. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:05:55 AM EDT
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Contractors may make tons more money than Soldiers, but soldiers can get on a radio and get 60,81,120mm mortars, 105, 155mm artillery, tanks, Little Birds, Apaches, AC-130s, F-15/16/18 and A-10 support. Contractors can be cut loose the second they become a liability. False. PMCs were on our radio nets in Iraq and while they might not have been given the same priority as a US unit under fire they sure as hell weren't going to be left to the wolves. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:15:01 AM EDT
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Soldiers are people paid for by the state.
Mercenaries are folks who fight for money without regard for any state. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:42:33 AM EDT
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Soldiers are people paid for by the state. Mercenaries are folks who fight for money without regard for any state. Plenty of mercenaries have fought for specific states. They've been doing so for a very long time, too. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:44:35 AM EDT
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loyalty goes to highest bidder as a mercenary
to a soldier, loyalty has no measurable price index |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 1:43:39 PM EDT
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Contractors = paid by private companies. Soldiers= Paid by a recognised state and a citizen of that state. Mercenaries= Paid by same recognised state but not a citizen. What do you call a US citizen working the DoS WPPS contract?! Security guard Protective Security Specialist https://triplecanopy.hua.hrsmart.com/hr/ats/Posting/view/150 |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 1:46:02 PM EDT
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Size of the paychecks...
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Posted: 7/7/2014 2:44:44 PM EDT
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Size of the paychecks... Kind of have to laugh at that one, too.  Even before you take out my own medical and life insurance, travel expenses, clothing, gear, and food, I make less than what someone at McDonalds is supposed to make.
I protect US military personnel in a country where everyone hates us. Yup. Must just be for the money. 
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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:19:31 PM EDT
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Officially, they only provide security. I know of at least one instance of an SF rounding up some Former Action Guys he served with in the past and taking them on a raid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What do private contracting companies that work for the US do? Are they purely security or do they go on missions? Officially, they only provide security. I know of at least one instance of an SF rounding up some Former Action Guys he served with in the past and taking them on a raid. I have worked DOD contracts primarily in and around Bagdad. On any given day I could be working a check point or going out on patrol. At night I would go on raids. Oh and the first post in the thread has it nailed 
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