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Honestly let's say hypothetically New York gets the unlucky plane. Infected guy walks down through town and he has some jungle killing Ebola in every cough. Not to mention the 100+ on the plane with him. How fast would it spread in the States? What PPE is required to improve your chances? View Quote From what I understand, as long as he didn't bleed on you or vomit or spew phlegm onto you or get his bodily fluids into you then you are going to be okay, as long as it has not mutated into an airborne spreadable disease. In the United States where we don't kiss the dead at funerals and things like that I think it would spread much less quickly as long as it did not mutate into an airborne agent. |
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I'm not saying they have to completely give up the practice, just don't do it with people who've died from hemorrhagic fever. If Batu was bleeding from his nose, ears, eyes, and mouth, and his skin was sloughing off...don't touch him. Problem solved. Ebola doesn't appear to spread very easy. I doubt an outbreak in a western country would go far.
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View Quote LOL, the two movies I thought of. |
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Ebola just isn't the bogyman they make it out to be. Stay away from bodily fluids, and you'll be fine. It can't get through your skin and is unstable outside the human body. If it wasn't for their funeral custom, that the family and friends wash and prepare the body of their dearly departed, there wouldn't be 337 dead. I'm not saying they have to completely give up the practice, just don't do it with people who've died from hemorrhagic fever. If Batu was bleeding from his nose, ears, eyes, and mouth, and his skin was sloughing off...don't touch him. Problem solved. Ebola doesn't appear to spread very easy. I doubt an outbreak in a western country would go far. Well on the bright side, for half of GD, sharing body fluids isn't an issue. View Quote |
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Honestly let's say hypothetically New York gets the unlucky plane. Infected guy walks down through town and he has some jungle killing Ebola in every cough. Not to mention the 100+ on the plane with him. How fast would it spread in the States? What PPE is required to improve your chances? Ebola isn't airborne. It can only survive in bodily fluids. Bodily fluids, you say? But no precious bodily fluids and no essence. |
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Absolutely false. It never infected any humans. We go through this every time we have an Ebola thread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You guys ever heard of the Reston strain? It was airborne and managed to infect some humans, but they showed no clinical signs of infection because it was not harmful to humans. It was called Reston because it happened in Virginia. So I believe it's only a matter of time before a filovirus with a significant mortality rate becomes airborne... Absolutely false. It never infected any humans. We go through this every time we have an Ebola thread. "Six of the 178 people who had contact with the infected monkeys at the Reston Quarantine Unit seroconverted. All six of the individuals worked with the primates. None of the six who seroconverted developed a filovirus-related illness. Of them, four (all of whom were animal handlers at one quarantine facility) had serologic evidence of recent infection with Ebola-Reston. It is likely that one of the four infected himself when he cut his finger while performing a necropsy on an infected monkey. The mode of transmission for the other three handlers is not known. The remaining two people were seropositive at low titer and had evidence of past infection. One of these two people is a worker at a facility that temporarily houses nonhuman primates before delivery to U.S. quarantine facilities and had had regular contact with quarantined nonhuman primates for three years. The second person was an employee at Hazleton's Texas Primate Center." To all those saying that Ebola doesn't spread easily, that's true. Even then, it spreads easier than HIV. And look how far HIV has gone. |
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Honestly let's say hypothetically New York gets the unlucky plane. Infected guy walks down through town and he has some jungle killing Ebola in every cough. Not to mention the 100+ on the plane with him. How fast would it spread in the States? What PPE is required to improve your chances? Ebola isn't airborne. It can only survive in bodily fluids. Bodily fluids, you say? |
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Wasnt there a story last month of African locals attacking some UN ebola clinic for some retarded reason ?
At the time I tought it more wise to move in a direction opposite to a ebola clinic but he what ever rocks their boat |
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"Six of the 178 people who had contact with the infected monkeys at the Reston Quarantine Unit seroconverted. All six of the individuals worked with the primates. None of the six who seroconverted developed a filovirus-related illness. Of them, four (all of whom were animal handlers at one quarantine facility) had serologic evidence of recent infection with Ebola-Reston. It is likely that one of the four infected himself when he cut his finger while performing a necropsy on an infected monkey. The mode of transmission for the other three handlers is not known. The remaining two people were seropositive at low titer and had evidence of past infection. One of these two people is a worker at a facility that temporarily houses nonhuman primates before delivery to U.S. quarantine facilities and had had regular contact with quarantined nonhuman primates for three years. The second person was an employee at Hazleton's Texas Primate Center." To all those saying that Ebola doesn't spread easily, that's true. Even then, it spreads easier than HIV. And look how far HIV has gone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You guys ever heard of the Reston strain? It was airborne and managed to infect some humans, but they showed no clinical signs of infection because it was not harmful to humans. It was called Reston because it happened in Virginia. So I believe it's only a matter of time before a filovirus with a significant mortality rate becomes airborne... Absolutely false. It never infected any humans. We go through this every time we have an Ebola thread. "Six of the 178 people who had contact with the infected monkeys at the Reston Quarantine Unit seroconverted. All six of the individuals worked with the primates. None of the six who seroconverted developed a filovirus-related illness. Of them, four (all of whom were animal handlers at one quarantine facility) had serologic evidence of recent infection with Ebola-Reston. It is likely that one of the four infected himself when he cut his finger while performing a necropsy on an infected monkey. The mode of transmission for the other three handlers is not known. The remaining two people were seropositive at low titer and had evidence of past infection. One of these two people is a worker at a facility that temporarily houses nonhuman primates before delivery to U.S. quarantine facilities and had had regular contact with quarantined nonhuman primates for three years. The second person was an employee at Hazleton's Texas Primate Center." To all those saying that Ebola doesn't spread easily, that's true. Even then, it spreads easier than HIV. And look how far HIV has gone. |
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Ebola just isn't the bogyman they make it out to be. Stay away from bodily fluids, and you'll be fine. It can't get through your skin and is unstable outside the human body. If it wasn't for their funeral custom, that the family and friends wash and prepare the body of their dearly departed, there wouldn't be 337 dead. I'm not saying they have to completely give up the practice, just don't do it with people who've died from hemorrhagic fever. If Batu was bleeding from his nose, ears, eyes, and mouth, and his skin was sloughing off...don't touch him. Problem solved. Ebola doesn't appear to spread very easy. I doubt an outbreak in a western country would go far. View Quote How can we panic when people like you keep interfering with facts and common sense? |
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Ebola just isn't the bogyman they make it out to be. Stay away from bodily fluids, and you'll be fine. It can't get through your skin and is unstable outside the human body. If it wasn't for their funeral custom, that the family and friends wash and prepare the body of their dearly departed, there wouldn't be 337 dead. I'm not saying they have to completely give up the practice, just don't do it with people who've died from hemorrhagic fever. If Batu was bleeding from his nose, ears, eyes, and mouth, and his skin was sloughing off...don't touch him. Problem solved. Ebola doesn't appear to spread very easy. I doubt an outbreak in a western country would go far. View Quote Concur. Supposedly there have been large animal die-offs associated with Ebola preceeding human outbreaks... Basically the theory is that it starts up, many, many animals are killed/infected and by the time human cases appear wide areas are are now part of the epidemic. In a western country like you said, this probably wouldn't help it spread much. I still like the science fiction/thrillers about it like Outbreak, Tom Clancy's book, etc but aerosalizing (word?) a disease would probably b e as complex as altering a human embryo to grow wings. |
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The best book on this subject I've read is Fever! by John G. Fuller.
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It's harder than one might imagine to get a monkey with ebola and a chicken with the flu to make sweet, sweet love... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ebola kills so fast it is doubtful it would turn into a mass epidemic. That and it is not airborne, yet. Some guy is in a lab right now trying to combine ebola and bird flu. It's harder than one might imagine to get a monkey with ebola and a chicken with the flu to make sweet, sweet love... MERS CAMELS! |
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most of us don't want to fuck/buttfuck/share needles with someone bleeding from their various orifices. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You guys ever heard of the Reston strain? It was airborne and managed to infect some humans, but they showed no clinical signs of infection because it was not harmful to humans. It was called Reston because it happened in Virginia. So I believe it's only a matter of time before a filovirus with a significant mortality rate becomes airborne... Absolutely false. It never infected any humans. We go through this every time we have an Ebola thread. "Six of the 178 people who had contact with the infected monkeys at the Reston Quarantine Unit seroconverted. All six of the individuals worked with the primates. None of the six who seroconverted developed a filovirus-related illness. Of them, four (all of whom were animal handlers at one quarantine facility) had serologic evidence of recent infection with Ebola-Reston. It is likely that one of the four infected himself when he cut his finger while performing a necropsy on an infected monkey. The mode of transmission for the other three handlers is not known. The remaining two people were seropositive at low titer and had evidence of past infection. One of these two people is a worker at a facility that temporarily houses nonhuman primates before delivery to U.S. quarantine facilities and had had regular contact with quarantined nonhuman primates for three years. The second person was an employee at Hazleton's Texas Primate Center." To all those saying that Ebola doesn't spread easily, that's true. Even then, it spreads easier than HIV. And look how far HIV has gone. It's not about that. It's about ignorance. HIV could have been significantly reduced or even stopped had people known what was happening sooner. And don't get me started on the hemophiliacs... |
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Honestly let's say hypothetically New York gets the unlucky plane. Infected guy walks down through town and he has some jungle killing Ebola in every cough. Not to mention the 100+ on the plane with him. How fast would it spread in the States? What PPE is required to improve your chances? Ebola isn't airborne. It can only survive in bodily fluids. you know that the flu can only survive in bodily fluids too right? The flu makes people cough because the virus in in the lungs, the mucous in the lungs contains the virus. Then you breath in the virus infected mucous. That is how flu spreads. If ebola were to infect the lungs and make people cough, it would be airborne too. |
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So what round for ebola infected people?
oh wait, never mind, they are already bleeding out, no round needed. |
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Two Tom Clancy books touched on this subject, Rainbow 6 and Executive Orders. The man was a prophet.
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Quoted: You guys ever heard of the Reston strain? It was airborne and managed to infect some humans, but they showed no clinical signs of infection because it was not harmful to humans. It was called Reston because it happened in Virginia. So I believe it's only a matter of time before a filovirus with a significant mortality rate becomes airborne... View Quote There is only a limited amount of space inside a virus particle. Adding a gene requires the removal of another gene, often causing the resulting virus to become less pathogenic or even non-pathogenic. Which is probably why Reston virus does not cause clinical disease in humans; the mutation which allowed it to easily infect people also caused it to become harmless. |
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Quoted: Some guy is in a lab right now trying to combine ebola and bird flu. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Ebola kills so fast it is doubtful it would turn into a mass epidemic. That and it is not airborne, yet. Some guy is in a lab right now trying to combine ebola and bird flu. Which would be roughly equivalent to trying to mount an AR upper to a 1911 frame. |
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Sooner, or later, Mother Nature will get the right combo going and only the basement dwellers will remain...and, all the hot chicks.
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Quoted: Yeah, that's all fine and good when you're not in the herd. Change of opinion maybe when you are part of the herd. That's big city thinking... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Meh, we need to thin the herd. Yeah, that's all fine and good when you're not in the herd. Change of opinion maybe when you are part of the herd. That's big city thinking... People always assume they're going to be the plucky resourceful survivor, and not one of the millions of anonymous dead.... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Honestly let's say hypothetically New York gets the unlucky plane. Infected guy walks down through town and he has some jungle killing Ebola in every cough. Not to mention the 100+ on the plane with him. How fast would it spread in the States? What PPE is required to improve your chances? Ebola isn't airborne. It can only survive in bodily fluids. Bodily fluids, you say? Yes, it can be sexually transmitted. |
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Quoted: Ebola just isn't the bogyman they make it out to be. Stay away from bodily fluids, and you'll be fine. It can't get through your skin and is unstable outside the human body. If it wasn't for their funeral custom, that the family and friends wash and prepare the body of their dearly departed, there wouldn't be 337 dead. View Quote I'm not saying they have to completely give up the practice, just don't do it with people who've died from hemorrhagic fever. If Batu was bleeding from his nose, ears, eyes, and mouth, and his skin was sloughing off...don't touch him. Problem solved. Ebola doesn't appear to spread very easy. I doubt an outbreak in a western country would go far. Yep. Universal Precautions -- which are required of every hospital and fire department for Hepatitis and HIV control -- would seriously slow down the spread of the virus. |
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How can we panic when people like you keep interfering with facts and common sense? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ebola just isn't the bogyman they make it out to be. Stay away from bodily fluids, and you'll be fine. It can't get through your skin and is unstable outside the human body. If it wasn't for their funeral custom, that the family and friends wash and prepare the body of their dearly departed, there wouldn't be 337 dead. I'm not saying they have to completely give up the practice, just don't do it with people who've died from hemorrhagic fever. If Batu was bleeding from his nose, ears, eyes, and mouth, and his skin was sloughing off...don't touch him. Problem solved. Ebola doesn't appear to spread very easy. I doubt an outbreak in a western country would go far. How can we panic when people like you keep interfering with facts and common sense? you want scary shit that's real. Worry about lyme/tick disease and how it is really taking off. |
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Quoted: "Six of the 178 people who had contact with the infected monkeys at the Reston Quarantine Unit seroconverted. All six of the individuals worked with the primates. None of the six who seroconverted developed a filovirus-related illness. Of them, four (all of whom were animal handlers at one quarantine facility) had serologic evidence of recent infection with Ebola-Reston. It is likely that one of the four infected himself when he cut his finger while performing a necropsy on an infected monkey. The mode of transmission for the other three handlers is not known. The remaining two people were seropositive at low titer and had evidence of past infection. One of these two people is a worker at a facility that temporarily houses nonhuman primates before delivery to U.S. quarantine facilities and had had regular contact with quarantined nonhuman primates for three years. The second person was an employee at Hazleton's Texas Primate Center." To all those saying that Ebola doesn't spread easily, that's true. Even then, it spreads easier than HIV. And look how far HIV has gone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You guys ever heard of the Reston strain? It was airborne and managed to infect some humans, but they showed no clinical signs of infection because it was not harmful to humans. It was called Reston because it happened in Virginia. So I believe it's only a matter of time before a filovirus with a significant mortality rate becomes airborne... Absolutely false. It never infected any humans. We go through this every time we have an Ebola thread. "Six of the 178 people who had contact with the infected monkeys at the Reston Quarantine Unit seroconverted. All six of the individuals worked with the primates. None of the six who seroconverted developed a filovirus-related illness. Of them, four (all of whom were animal handlers at one quarantine facility) had serologic evidence of recent infection with Ebola-Reston. It is likely that one of the four infected himself when he cut his finger while performing a necropsy on an infected monkey. The mode of transmission for the other three handlers is not known. The remaining two people were seropositive at low titer and had evidence of past infection. One of these two people is a worker at a facility that temporarily houses nonhuman primates before delivery to U.S. quarantine facilities and had had regular contact with quarantined nonhuman primates for three years. The second person was an employee at Hazleton's Texas Primate Center." To all those saying that Ebola doesn't spread easily, that's true. Even then, it spreads easier than HIV. And look how far HIV has gone. |
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Honestly let's say hypothetically New York gets the unlucky plane. Infected guy walks down through town and he has some jungle killing Ebola in every cough. Not to mention the 100+ on the plane with him. How fast would it spread in the States? What PPE is required to improve your chances? Ebola isn't airborne. It can only survive in bodily fluids. Bodily fluids, you say? |
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Quoted: HIV is a terrible comparison because of the difference in timelines. If HIV killed you in a month and you showed obvious signs of having it, HIV would be a much different problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You guys ever heard of the Reston strain? It was airborne and managed to infect some humans, but they showed no clinical signs of infection because it was not harmful to humans. It was called Reston because it happened in Virginia. So I believe it's only a matter of time before a filovirus with a significant mortality rate becomes airborne... Absolutely false. It never infected any humans. We go through this every time we have an Ebola thread. "Six of the 178 people who had contact with the infected monkeys at the Reston Quarantine Unit seroconverted. All six of the individuals worked with the primates. None of the six who seroconverted developed a filovirus-related illness. Of them, four (all of whom were animal handlers at one quarantine facility) had serologic evidence of recent infection with Ebola-Reston. It is likely that one of the four infected himself when he cut his finger while performing a necropsy on an infected monkey. The mode of transmission for the other three handlers is not known. The remaining two people were seropositive at low titer and had evidence of past infection. One of these two people is a worker at a facility that temporarily houses nonhuman primates before delivery to U.S. quarantine facilities and had had regular contact with quarantined nonhuman primates for three years. The second person was an employee at Hazleton's Texas Primate Center." To all those saying that Ebola doesn't spread easily, that's true. Even then, it spreads easier than HIV. And look how far HIV has gone. This. The reason HIV was able to spread all over the world is because infected persons didn't know they were infected until months or even years afterwards, allowing them to travel all over the world and infect dozens, if not hundreds, of other persons. |
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Ebola kills so fast it is doubtful it would turn into a mass epidemic. That and it is not airborne, yet. Some guy is in a lab right now trying to combine ebola and bird flu. Put it into a mosquito vector and let the fun begin. |
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And some wine...with a few candles and some Barry White on the Ipod.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ebola kills so fast it is doubtful it would turn into a mass epidemic. That and it is not airborne, yet. Some guy is in a lab right now trying to combine ebola and bird flu. It's harder than one might imagine to get a monkey with ebola and a chicken with the flu to make sweet, sweet love... Just add a pig. And some wine...with a few candles and some Barry White on the Ipod.. ...and a Hot Tub! |
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Ebola kills so fast it is doubtful it would turn into a mass epidemic. That and it is not airborne, yet. Some guy is in a lab right now trying to combine ebola and bird flu. It's harder than one might imagine to get a monkey with ebola and a chicken with the flu to make sweet, sweet love... Ruffies |
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It's a plot by Hollywood to promote the new show "The Last Ship". I think they're taking it a bit far to be honest.
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Honestly let's say hypothetically New York gets the unlucky plane. Infected guy walks down through town and he has some jungle killing Ebola in every cough. Not to mention the 100+ on the plane with him. How fast would it spread in the States? What PPE is required to improve your chances? Ebola isn't airborne. It can only survive in bodily fluids. But bodily fluids can be aerosolized. That is how Norovirus can spread without direct contact or contact with contaminated surfaces. Not as bad as more traditional "airborne" viruses, but many aerosols can travel long distances and persist on surfaces. |
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Ebola just isn't the bogyman they make it out to be. Stay away from bodily fluids, and you'll be fine. It can't get through your skin and is unstable outside the human body. If it wasn't for their funeral custom, that the family and friends wash and prepare the body of their dearly departed, there wouldn't be 337 dead. I'm not saying they have to completely give up the practice, just don't do it with people who've died from hemorrhagic fever. If Batu was bleeding from his nose, ears, eyes, and mouth, and his skin was sloughing off...don't touch him. Problem solved. Ebola doesn't appear to spread very easy. I doubt an outbreak in a western country would go far. View Quote Exactly. It's not particularly dangerous in a modern western country. |
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