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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:42:56 AM EDT
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I thought some esters are airborne by themselves? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thought for the day. If you can smell shit, then you are breathing shit particles into your lungs. Ebola is in feces. I thought some esters are airborne by themselves? Maybe they had some help from their brother-in-law, Fred... 
I haven't heard anything from the folks that were working in the hospital here in Jeddah where the fellow passed on under suspicion of Ebola, but they're here more than 21 days past exposure, and seem healthy. Just not talking much. 
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:50:00 AM EDT
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Somehow reminded of " The Stand" by Stephen King I read the unedited version of that book in high school many moons ago. It was such an engulfing book that I would be reading it and someone near me would start coughing and I would damn near freak out. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 3:38:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought for the day. If you can smell shit, then you are breathing shit particles into your lungs. Ebola is in feces. The nose is an effective filter, people would be amazed with the amount of bacteria or viruses that enter the nose every day. Cholera and hepatitis are two examples of diseases that spread via a fecal-oral transmission vector andthose require contact with feces and even then it has to be introduced into the body via the mouth, eyes or open wounds (and even open wounds won't work for cholera I believe). While I wouldn't recommend it, an Ebola victim can shit all over you and you'd be okay as long as it doesn't enter the mouth or get past the skin. Problem is of course it wouldn't take a lot to get introduced into the oral route or open wounds to spread the disease. Get some Ebola viruses on the hand and wipe your face with your hand and its all over. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 7:56:29 AM EDT
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A doctor in Nigeria's oil hub of Port Harcourt has died from Ebola after treating a contact of a Liberian-American man who was the first recorded case of the virus in Africa's most populous country, the Health Ministry said on Thursday. Health Minister Onyebuchi Chukwu said in a statement that the doctor fell ill after treating a patient who was a contact of Patrick Sawyer, who died from Ebola in Lagos after flying in from Liberia last month. The death in Port Harcourt brings the number of Ebola fatalities in Nigeria to 6, all of whom were direct or indirect contacts of Sawyer. The man who infected the doctor in Port Harcourt had "evaded our surveillance team in the last week of July" in Lagos, Chukwu said. He has since recovered and has been discharged after testing negative for the virus. However, a World Health Organisation official told journalists in Geneva on Thursday that it was not confirmed that the doctor died of Ebola and that a WHO team flew out two days ago to Port Harcourt to assess the case. The total number of recorded Ebola cases in Nigeria had risen by two to 15, Chukwu said, the other one being the wife of the deceased doctor. She was showing Ebola symptoms and test results were being awaited, he said. The U.N. health agency said on Thursday that the Ebola epidemic in West Africa could infect more than 20,000 people and that almost half a billion dollars would be needed to overcome the outbreak. The total death toll stood at 1,552 as of Aug. 26., with 3,069 cases having been reported in the outbreak. The WHO has said the actual number in Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Nigeria could already be two to four times higher. The doctor's death in Port Harcourt came two days after Chukwu said authorities had "thus far contained" the Ebola outbreak in Africa's largest economy, with only one case left. Port Harcourt lies at the heart of Nigeria's two million barrels per day oil industry, Africa's biggest, and is a hub for expatriate workers in major international oil companies, including Royal Dutch Shell, ENI, Total and Exxonmobil. Nwomeh said 70 people who had been in contact with the doctor were now under surveillance in the city. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:51:43 AM EDT
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It doesn't work that way. The nose is an effective filter, people would be amazed with the amount of bacteria or viruses that enter the nose every day. Cholera and hepatitis are two examples of diseases that spread via a fecal-oral transmission vector andthose require contact with feces and even then it has to be introduced into the body via the mouth, eyes or open wounds (and even open wounds won't work for cholera I believe). While I wouldn't recommend it, an Ebola victim can shit all over you and you'd be okay as long as it doesn't enter the mouth or get past the skin. Problem is of course it wouldn't take a lot to get introduced into the oral route or open wounds to spread the disease. Get some Ebola viruses on the hand and wipe your face with your hand and its all over. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thought for the day. If you can smell shit, then you are breathing shit particles into your lungs. Ebola is in feces. The nose is an effective filter, people would be amazed with the amount of bacteria or viruses that enter the nose every day. Cholera and hepatitis are two examples of diseases that spread via a fecal-oral transmission vector andthose require contact with feces and even then it has to be introduced into the body via the mouth, eyes or open wounds (and even open wounds won't work for cholera I believe). While I wouldn't recommend it, an Ebola victim can shit all over you and you'd be okay as long as it doesn't enter the mouth or get past the skin. Problem is of course it wouldn't take a lot to get introduced into the oral route or open wounds to spread the disease. Get some Ebola viruses on the hand and wipe your face with your hand and its all over. Ok, that is goid to know. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:27:55 AM EDT
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Confirmed in Senegal now, despite the closed border.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:49:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Confirmed in Senegal now, despite the closed border. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:51:25 PM EDT
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Most health experts have said that closing the borders within the African countries isn't an effective deterrent and all it does is spread fear and panic among the population. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Confirmed in Senegal now, despite the closed border. Borders in Africa are extremely porous (unless there's a big-ass river or something). |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:57:36 PM EDT
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Most health experts have said that closing the borders within the African countries isn't an effective deterrent and all it does is spread fear and panic among the population. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Confirmed in Senegal now, despite the closed border. then why did the Liberians seal off west point? the "health experts" are a bunch of PC euro-style bureaucrats who would rather watch the world get massacred by ebola than be accused of being insensitive toward black Africans. Of course, the only other explanation is they want this to get away and decimate the population. Its not like those African lands are full of oil or gold or anything but that would just be a conspiracy theory about not letting this crisis go to waste |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:35:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: then why did the Liberians seal off west point? the "health experts" are a bunch of PC euro-style bureaucrats who would rather watch the world get massacred by ebola than be accused of being insensitive toward black Africans. Of course, the only other explanation is they want this to get away and decimate the population. Its not like those African lands are full of oil or gold or anything but that would just be a conspiracy theory about not letting this crisis go to waste Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Confirmed in Senegal now, despite the closed border. then why did the Liberians seal off west point? the "health experts" are a bunch of PC euro-style bureaucrats who would rather watch the world get massacred by ebola than be accused of being insensitive toward black Africans. Of course, the only other explanation is they want this to get away and decimate the population. Its not like those African lands are full of oil or gold or anything but that would just be a conspiracy theory about not letting this crisis go to waste How effective do you think the isolation of West Point is going? "MONROVIA, Liberia — Some people are swimming in and out of the Ebola quarantine zone in this seaside capital. One man slips out every day to reach his job at a Western embassy. Another has turned his living room into a tollbooth, charging others to escape through his apartment at the edge of the cordoned area. Countless others have used a different method: bribing their way out with fees that soldiers determine according to a person’s appearance, circumstances and even gender." ... International Ebola experts and her own health officials advised against imposing the quarantine in West Point, worried that it would antagonize a population whose cooperation the government desperately needs to stop the epidemic. But Ms. Johnson Sirleaf sided with the army, which was the strongest proponent of the quarantine and took the lead in enforcing it, especially in the first two days. "Putting the police and the army in charge of the quarantine was the worst thing you could do,” said Dr. Jean-Jacques Muyembe, a Congolese physician who helped identify the Ebola virus in the 1970s, battled many outbreaks in Central Africa and has been visiting Monrovia to advise the government. "You must make the people inside the quarantine zone feel that they are being helped, not oppressed.” "Isolating communities has succeeded in some rural areas in past outbreaks in Central Africa. But the quarantine of an entire urban neighborhood, where 60,000 to 120,000 people are crammed into crumbling shacks, has proved to be more than just porous. It has also led to deadly clashes with soldiers and may even be helping spread the disease, experts say, forcing people to crowd together for basic humanitarian aid, like food relief. Cordoned off from the city, young men in West Point squeeze together in dense lines for rice and water, pushing and shoving, sweat mixing, saliva flying, blood sometimes spilling. One morning, a man in a wheelchair trying to cut to the front was beaten, stripped and left sprawled in the middle of the road, urinating over himself. "The quarantine is going to worsen the spread of Ebola,” said Dr. Muyembe, the director of the National Institute for Biomedical Research in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo. "It’s difficult to understand the motivation behind it. It’s simply not a good strategy.” So the isolation doesn't work and spreads civil disorder. Also, you are arguing that Dr. Muyembe, the director of the National Institute for Biomedical Research in the DRC is afraid of being accused of being insensitive towards the plight of black Africans? |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:42:20 PM EDT
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Let me get this straight. Health experts say that closing the borders is ineffective and your counter is that the Liberians did it so it must be a good idea? Mark this down, this has to be the first time that ARFCOM has appealed to the logic and intelligence of African leadership as an example of what should be done. How effective do you think the isolation of West Point is going? "MONROVIA, Liberia — Some people are swimming in and out of the Ebola quarantine zone in this seaside capital. One man slips out every day to reach his job at a Western embassy. Another has turned his living room into a tollbooth, charging others to escape through his apartment at the edge of the cordoned area. Countless others have used a different method: bribing their way out with fees that soldiers determine according to a person’s appearance, circumstances and even gender." ... International Ebola experts and her own health officials advised against imposing the quarantine in West Point, worried that it would antagonize a population whose cooperation the government desperately needs to stop the epidemic. But Ms. Johnson Sirleaf sided with the army, which was the strongest proponent of the quarantine and took the lead in enforcing it, especially in the first two days. "Putting the police and the army in charge of the quarantine was the worst thing you could do,” said Dr. Jean-Jacques Muyembe, a Congolese physician who helped identify the Ebola virus in the 1970s, battled many outbreaks in Central Africa and has been visiting Monrovia to advise the government. "You must make the people inside the quarantine zone feel that they are being helped, not oppressed.”" So the isolation doesn't work and spreads civil disorder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Confirmed in Senegal now, despite the closed border. then why did the Liberians seal off west point? the "health experts" are a bunch of PC euro-style bureaucrats who would rather watch the world get massacred by ebola than be accused of being insensitive toward black Africans. Of course, the only other explanation is they want this to get away and decimate the population. Its not like those African lands are full of oil or gold or anything but that would just be a conspiracy theory about not letting this crisis go to waste How effective do you think the isolation of West Point is going? "MONROVIA, Liberia — Some people are swimming in and out of the Ebola quarantine zone in this seaside capital. One man slips out every day to reach his job at a Western embassy. Another has turned his living room into a tollbooth, charging others to escape through his apartment at the edge of the cordoned area. Countless others have used a different method: bribing their way out with fees that soldiers determine according to a person’s appearance, circumstances and even gender." ... International Ebola experts and her own health officials advised against imposing the quarantine in West Point, worried that it would antagonize a population whose cooperation the government desperately needs to stop the epidemic. But Ms. Johnson Sirleaf sided with the army, which was the strongest proponent of the quarantine and took the lead in enforcing it, especially in the first two days. "Putting the police and the army in charge of the quarantine was the worst thing you could do,” said Dr. Jean-Jacques Muyembe, a Congolese physician who helped identify the Ebola virus in the 1970s, battled many outbreaks in Central Africa and has been visiting Monrovia to advise the government. "You must make the people inside the quarantine zone feel that they are being helped, not oppressed.”" So the isolation doesn't work and spreads civil disorder. when a bunch of "experts" say that OPEN BORDERS is the solution to trouble coming across the border, don't you get a little suspicious? what has a better chance of containing the epidemic, open borders or guys with guns keeping people from coming across? Sure its not 100% effective, but is that a that doesn't mean don't at least try. And I don't really care what some poorly-trained witch doctor from the Congo says about it. |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 6:13:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Borders in Africa are extremely porous (unless there's a big-ass river or something). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Confirmed in Senegal now, despite the closed border. Borders in Africa are extremely porous (unless there's a big-ass river or something). This. Africans are used to crossing borders even when they are supposedly closed. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 12:19:21 AM EDT
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Ebola Virus Arrives in Fifth Country During Worst-Ever OutbreakAcross West Africa, the virus has already killed more than 1,552 people in Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone and Nigeria, according to the World Health Organization. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-virus-arrives-country-worst-outbreak/story?id=25190695 |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 1:48:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Across West Africa, the virus has already killed more than 1,552 people in Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone and Nigeria, according to the World Health Organization. Quote HistoryQuoted: Ebola Virus Arrives in Fifth Country During Worst-Ever OutbreakAcross West Africa, the virus has already killed more than 1,552 people in Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone and Nigeria, according to the World Health Organization. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-virus-arrives-country-worst-outbreak/story?id=25190695 |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 12:56:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ebola Virus Arrives in Fifth Country During Worst-Ever OutbreakAcross West Africa, the virus has already killed more than 1,552 people in Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone and Nigeria, according to the World Health Organization. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-virus-arrives-country-worst-outbreak/story?id=25190695 In reality, borders in that region only exist on paper. It would take an army far larger and more competent than the ones there to do the job. The case had probably crossed the border before it was closed. Or, as often happens in Africa, they bribed the border guard or simply crossed at a location that wasn't guarded. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 7:13:12 PM EDT
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MONROVIA (AFP) - Nurses at Liberia's largest hospital went on strike on Monday, demanding better pay and equipment to protect them against a deadly Ebola epidemic which has killed hundreds in the west African nation.
John Tugbeh, spokesman for the strikers at Monrovia's John F Kennedy hospital, said the nurses would not return to work until they are supplied with "personal protective equipment (PPEs)", the hazmat-style suits which guard against infectious diseases. "From the beginning of the Ebola outbreak we have not had any protective equipment to work with. As result, so many doctors got infected by the virus. We have to stay home until we get the PPEs," he said. - See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/world/more-world-stories/story/nurses-go-strike-ebola-hit-liberia-20140902#sthash.56nVX9ef.dpuf |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 12:13:18 PM EDT
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ATLANTA (CBS Atlanta/AP) — The director for the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention says that the Ebola outbreak is going to get worse.
Speaking to “CBS This Morning” following his trip to the West African countries dealing with the outbreak, Dr. Tom Frieden explained that they have to act now to try to get Ebola under control. “It is the world’s first Ebola epidemic and it is spiraling out of control. It’s bad now and it’s going to get worse in the very near future,” Frieden told CBS News. “There is still a window of opportunity to tamp it down, but that window is closing. We really have to act now.” Frieden, who visited Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, will tell Washington tomorrow that the Ebola outbreak is “spiraling upward.” The CDC director explained that these countries still need help to deal with the deadly outbreak. Link |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 12:39:36 PM EDT
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Talk about flogging a dead horse .... Even CNN has pretty much quit working the Ebola gig.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:41:30 PM EDT
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Talk about flogging a dead horse .... Even CNN has pretty much quit working the Ebola gig. I suspect there's almost no media on the ground any more other than local sources, and even the WHO admits that they don't know what's going on in the worst areas. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 4:13:34 PM EDT
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/another-american-doctor-infected-ebola-charity-says-n193911
Another and was not working with Ebola?? |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 4:16:28 PM EDT
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And the hits just keep on coming
 We're digging deeper foxholes , here ......gonna wait it out .  |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:55:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/another-american-doctor-infected-ebola-charity-says-n193911 Another and was not working with Ebola?? He was an Ob-Gyn, meaning he was working around gallons of blood/body fluid every time he delivered a baby. He probably delivered a baby whose mother was starting to get sick but never got reported as an Ebola case. Or he just might be a victim of Third-World sanitation; i.e, reusing contaminated items. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:02:42 PM EDT
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http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227176
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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:25:44 PM EDT
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oops
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Posted: 9/3/2014 8:45:58 AM EDT
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http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227176 Let me hot link that for you. |
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Posted: 9/3/2014 10:27:21 AM EDT
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Just in case anyone missed it, on August 28 the WHO noted that 40% of the known cases of ebola in West Africa had occurred in the previous 21 days.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 4:03:38 PM EDT
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1900 dead and counting.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/03/us-health-ebola-toll-idUSKBN0GY24F20140903 African countries borders are more secure than US. In fact some African countries are so scare of Ebola, they gave the order to shoot to kill anyone crossing illegally. Computer model said by the 24th of September over 10000 people will be infected. Personally I think it is a low number. http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2014/08/disease-modelers-project-rapidly-rising-toll-ebola Than there is the Democratic Republic of Congo. A different strain of Ebola. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/281948.php 24 hours Ebola news coverage. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=0Ed&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&q=ebola&spell=1&sa=X&ei=7nMHVKXGBI7doASe3oGwDw&ved=0CBwQvwUoAA#channel=fflb&q=ebola&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=nws&tbs=qdr:d |
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Posted: 9/3/2014 4:21:37 PM EDT
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I gotta ask, is 1500 dead/3000 infected an epidemic? To me, that seems more like a good day in Syria. It seems like a good day in Africa as well. I'm not saying we shouldn't help fight/contain/cure it but we shouldn't be running around screaming "SLATEWIPER!!! SLATEWIPER!!!" either...
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Posted: 9/3/2014 4:31:18 PM EDT
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I gotta ask, is 1500 dead/3000 infected an epidemic? To me, that seems more like a good day in Syria. It seems like a good day in Africa as well. I'm not saying we shouldn't help fight/contain/cure it but we shouldn't be running around screaming "SLATEWIPER!!! SLATEWIPER!!!" either... There are 300,000-500,000 cases of Lassa fever of which there are 5,000 fatalities EVERY YEAR in west Africa. Not sure about anyone else but that puts everything in perspective for me... |
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Posted: 9/3/2014 4:45:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are 300,000-500,000 cases of Lassa fever of which there are 5,000 fatalities EVERY YEAR in west Africa. Not sure about anyone else but that puts everything in perspective for me... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I gotta ask, is 1500 dead/3000 infected an epidemic? To me, that seems more like a good day in Syria. It seems like a good day in Africa as well. I'm not saying we shouldn't help fight/contain/cure it but we shouldn't be running around screaming "SLATEWIPER!!! SLATEWIPER!!!" either... There are 300,000-500,000 cases of Lassa fever of which there are 5,000 fatalities EVERY YEAR in west Africa. Not sure about anyone else but that puts everything in perspective for me... That's a very low percentage of deaths. Nowhere near the 50%+ death rate of Ebola. Anyway here is an interesting read on Nigeria Ebola situation in Port Harcourt. It would be funny if it weren't so sad. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/3-september-2014/en/ |
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Posted: 9/3/2014 5:52:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I gotta ask, is 1500 dead/3000 infected an epidemic? To me, that seems more like a good day in Syria. It seems like a good day in Africa as well. I'm not saying we shouldn't help fight/contain/cure it but we shouldn't be running around screaming "SLATEWIPER!!! SLATEWIPER!!!" either... |
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Posted: 9/3/2014 6:37:08 PM EDT
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Malaria kills 3300 people a day in Africa, and you don't have to touch a sick person to get it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I gotta ask, is 1500 dead/3000 infected an epidemic? To me, that seems more like a good day in Syria. It seems like a good day in Africa as well. I'm not saying we shouldn't help fight/contain/cure it but we shouldn't be running around screaming "SLATEWIPER!!! SLATEWIPER!!!" either... ...nonsense... Slatewiper... Slatewiper ...SLATE FUCKIN WIPER |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 12:16:13 AM EDT
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Don't get me wrong, this is by far the most widespread Ebola epidemic ever seen but everyone needs to realize that these are "developing countries", with little or no-sense of modern containment/medical practices. You would never see this in any major US city
ETA: i still would have probably shot the fucker if splatter wasn't an issue 
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Posted: 9/4/2014 1:40:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't get me wrong, this is by far the most widespread Ebola epidemic ever seen but everyone needs to realize that these are "developing countries", with little or no-sense of modern containment/medical practices. You would never see this in any major US city  http://youtu.be/F-JZEaeOmfEETA: i still would have probably shot the fucker if splatter wasn't an issue |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 5:00:03 AM EDT
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Don't get me wrong, this is by far the most widespread Ebola epidemic ever seen but everyone needs to realize that these are "developing countries", with little or no-sense of modern containment/medical practices. You would never see this in any major US city http://youtu.be/F-JZEaeOmfE
ETA: i still would have probably shot the fucker if splatter wasn't an issue What a bizarre scene. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 5:15:42 AM EDT
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I was wondering about that(?) Whatever happened to that "hospital" (And the people who ran off and the ones who stole the bloody sheets) that got looted last week? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WHO was giving infected and body count totals every 2 days there hasn't been an update now in a whole week. The last update was issued on the 22nd which were the totals as of the 20th. http://www.who.int/csr/outbreaknetwork/en/ Whatever happened to that "hospital" (And the people who ran off and the ones who stole the bloody sheets) that got looted last week? It now has become pandemic, time for secrecy to prevent world wide panic maybe |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 5:55:59 AM EDT
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Don't get me wrong, this is by far the most widespread Ebola epidemic ever seen but everyone needs to realize that these are "developing countries", with little or no-sense of modern containment/medical practices. You would never see this in any major US city http://youtu.be/F-JZEaeOmfE
ETA: i still would have probably shot the fucker if splatter wasn't an issue We have manhunts for drug-resistant TB patients who are non-compliant on their meds, but the crowds usually run away vs approaching.
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Posted: 9/4/2014 8:43:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: African countries borders are more secure than US.  In many places in Africa, national borders are just lines on a piece of paper. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 8:44:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It now has become pandemic, time for secrecy to prevent world wide panic maybe Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: WHO was giving infected and body count totals every 2 days there hasn't been an update now in a whole week. The last update was issued on the 22nd which were the totals as of the 20th. http://www.who.int/csr/outbreaknetwork/en/ Whatever happened to that "hospital" (And the people who ran off and the ones who stole the bloody sheets) that got looted last week? It now has become pandemic, time for secrecy to prevent world wide panic maybe I don't intend to add fuel to the conspiracy theory, but I have noticed the World Health Organization has not been updating the case totals on their webpage lately.... |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 8:50:37 AM EDT
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Don't get me wrong, this is by far the most widespread Ebola epidemic ever seen but everyone needs to realize that these are "developing countries", with little or no-sense of modern containment/medical practices. You would never see this in any major US city http://youtu.be/F-JZEaeOmfE
ETA: i still would have probably shot the fucker if splatter wasn't an issue That white guy is nuts. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 11:04:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't intend to add fuel to the conspiracy theory, but I have noticed the World Health Organization has not been updating the case totals on their webpage lately.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: WHO was giving infected and body count totals every 2 days there hasn't been an update now in a whole week. The last update was issued on the 22nd which were the totals as of the 20th. http://www.who.int/csr/outbreaknetwork/en/ Whatever happened to that "hospital" (And the people who ran off and the ones who stole the bloody sheets) that got looted last week? It now has become pandemic, time for secrecy to prevent world wide panic maybe I don't intend to add fuel to the conspiracy theory, but I have noticed the World Health Organization has not been updating the case totals on their webpage lately.... |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 5:05:48 PM EDT
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We will have a confirmed case of Ebola in Nebraska tomorrow.
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Posted: 9/4/2014 6:38:32 PM EDT
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Interesting read.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-2006-mathematical-model-shows-how-ebola-could-wipe-us-out Yaneer Bar-Yam, the complex systems analyst whose model accurately predicted the global unrest that led to the Arab Spring, is also worried about the patterns he sees in the disease's advance. Models he designed for the New England Complex Systems Institute back in 2006 show that Ebola could rapidly spread, and, in a worse case scenario, even cause an extinction event, if enough infected people make it through an international airport. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 8:50:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy who actually does the updating for the web page probably died from Ebola. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: WHO was giving infected and body count totals every 2 days there hasn't been an update now in a whole week. The last update was issued on the 22nd which were the totals as of the 20th. http://www.who.int/csr/outbreaknetwork/en/ Whatever happened to that "hospital" (And the people who ran off and the ones who stole the bloody sheets) that got looted last week? It now has become pandemic, time for secrecy to prevent world wide panic maybe I don't intend to add fuel to the conspiracy theory, but I have noticed the World Health Organization has not been updating the case totals on their webpage lately.... In reality, it's probably because the health ministries in those countries which are responsible for tracking cases are completely overwhelmed and can't keep up. If they're like a typical African Health Ministry, they have a professional staff on the front lines of the epidemic who are dedicated and hard-working but outnumbered, underpaid, poorly-equipped. Above them is a thick layer of lazy, corrupt, and incompetent bureaucrats who siphon off most if the foreign aid money intended for supplies and medicines. The Health Minister himself usually lives in an opulent mansion on the outskirts of the capitol city and he spends his time jet-setting to WHO conferences in Switzerland or Dubai or New York City. When he's home he awards sweetheart ministry contracts to his relatives or cronies. Occasionally he might actually show up at some rural clinic somewhere for a photo-op to help sell his sob story to the Western media about how his country needs more money to fight the virus. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 9:43:28 PM EDT
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Interesting read. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Interesting read. http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-2006-mathematical-model-shows-how-ebola-could-wipe-us-out
Yaneer Bar-Yam, the complex systems analyst whose model accurately predicted the global unrest that led to the Arab Spring, is also worried about the patterns he sees in the disease's advance. Models he designed for the New England Complex Systems Institute back in 2006 show that Ebola could rapidly spread, and, in a worse case scenario, even cause an extinction event, if enough infected people make it through an international airport. But bullshit nonetheless. If ebola was injected into every human in the world and only 5% survived you would have 359 million survivors - that is greater than the current population of the united states. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 10:45:16 PM EDT
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We will have a confirmed case of Ebola in Nebraska tomorrow. Details? |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 10:54:45 PM EDT
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Wilkow had a physician on today who claimed we really aren't sure exactly how it is transmitted. Supposedly she was a well known Otolaryngologist (ear, nose, and throat doctor) out of NYC.
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Posted: 9/4/2014 11:59:41 PM EDT
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We will have a confirmed case of Ebola in Nebraska tomorrow. Details? Missionary ob doctor who contracted Ebola in Liberia will be treated in Nebraska's hospital. No different than the two already treated at Emory. The CDC has been accused of spreading Ebola, now Christians can be accused too. |
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Posted: 9/5/2014 12:49:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wilkow had a physician on today who claimed we really aren't sure exactly how it is transmitted. Supposedly she was a well known Otolaryngologist (ear, nose, and throat doctor) out of NYC. |
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Posted: 9/5/2014 1:04:31 AM EDT
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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/ebola-proving-hard-contain/
"JEFFREY BROWN: One of the things you said today really jumped out at me. You were talking about as the world isolates itself from these countries, it is having an adverse effect. It’s harmful to the countries and it’s ultimately harmful to the rest of the world, including us, and you said, like it or not, we are connected. So explain that. Should we not be isolating those countries? DR. THOMAS FRIEDEN: The fact is, people are going to move around the world, and the only way to really protect ourselves from this is to stop it at the source. It’s not dissimilar to the dynamic that’s happened within these countries. Frankly, against the advice of many, some of the countries enforced quarantines in some areas. And the — as Dr. Liu from MSF said earlier on your program, that’s really counterproductive, because it drives patients underground, it increases hostility. And it’s not a way to help. What we need to do is to get services to patients, to families, get people into care and isolation quicker, so they stop spreading disease and so they have a better chance of survival, because early treatment does improve survival."
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