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CCP has given the false impression that the “Party culture” is actually a continuation of
traditional Chinese culture. The CCP has even taken advantage of the aversion some people have for the “Party culture” to incite further abandonment of the authentic Chinese tradition. |
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Such a beautiful thing as music, however, was used by the CCP as a method to brainwash the
people. Songs like “Socialism Is Good,” “There would be no new China without the Communist Party,” and many others, have been sung from kindergarten to the university. In singing these songs, people have unconsciously accepted the meanings of the lyrics. Further, the CCP stole the tunes of the most melodious folk songs and replaced them with lyrics that praise the Party. This has served both to destroy the traditional culture and to promote the Party. |
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Wouldn't it be quicker just to post a link to the original article instead of copying and pasting sections?
Not that anyone would read it, but at least there would be less for us not to read... |
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Quoted: Such a beautiful thing as music, however, was used by the CCP as a method to brainwash the people. Songs like "Socialism Is Good,” "There would be no new China without the Communist Party,” and many others, have been sung from kindergarten to the university. In singing these songs, people have unconsciously accepted the meanings of the lyrics. Further, the CCP stole the tunes of the most melodious folk songs and replaced them with lyrics that praise the Party. This has served both to destroy the traditional culture and to promote the Party. View Quote You know, it's interesting that you say that, because I've always thought that as one of the CCP's classic documents, Mao's "Speech at the Yan'an Forum on Literature and Arts" [94] placed cultural endeavors and the military as "the two battle fronts." It stated that it was not enough to have just the armed military; an "army of literary arts" was also needed. It stipulated that "the literary arts should serve politics" and "the literary arts of the proletariat class" are the "gears and screws" of the revolution machine. A complete system of "Party culture" was developed out of this, with "atheism" and "class struggle" being its core. This system goes completely against traditional culture. |
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Since both Russia and China started to survey their common border in 1991, Jiang Zemin has
fully acknowledged the results of the invasions of China by the Tsar and the former Soviet Union, and completely accepted all the unequal treaties between Russia and China since the Aigun Treaty. Chinese lands covering over one million square kilometers have thus been permanently forfeited by him. |
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Ok, I don't think you will find any here that will argue against the notion that "China is fucked up". Most of us are about individual freedom.
But exactly what result do you hope to achieve by all these posts?? We can't do a damn thing about it. |
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I think I heard about them in the movie die hard, maybe related to the "Asian dong"
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View Quote Agreed. IN. |
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I've only seen two things beat the fun of having an Indian (Muslim) student give a presentation on using cows as test animals to a mainly Indian (Hindu) audience:
1) Greeks and Turks arguing over who invented what. & 2) An old gentleman of a guy (pre-cultural revolution) from Taiwan giving a presentation that included a *suspicious* amount of pictures of his family's household and household staff back in the mainland when he was growing up. The audience was about half 20-somethings from the mainland. |
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The “Party culture” has indeed rendered distinguished service in helping the CCP to win power and control over society. Like its army, prisons, and police force, the Party culture is also a violence machine, which provides a different kind of brutality— “cultural brutality.” This cultural brutality, by destroying 5000 years of traditional culture, has diminished the will of the people, and undermined the cohesiveness of the Chinese nationality. |
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Well, after following two pages of this thread and having the OP ignore any responses from myself or anyone else I'm outta this thing.
Either this is generated by a machine or the OP has no interest in discussion. Bye.... |
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Can I donate some money to help their cause?
Ha Ha! just kidding they can fuck off. |
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Ok, I don't think you will find any here that will argue against the notion that "China is fucked up". Most of us are about individual freedom. But exactly what result do you hope to achieve by all these posts?? We can't do a damn thing about it. View Quote People can ask Chinese people tuidang: "The Tuidang movement (????/????; Tuìdang yùndòng) is a Chinese dissident phenomenon that began in late 2004. The movement, whose name translates literally as "withdraw from the [Communist] party," was catalyzed by the publication of the editorial series "Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party" (Jiuping Gongchandang) in the U.S.-based Chinese-language newspaper The Epoch Times (Dajiyuan). The series criticized Communist Party rule in China, with a focus on the party's history of political repression, its propaganda apparatus, and its assaults on traditional culture and value systems." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuidang_movement by asking them visit website and put their name or nickname: http://tuidang.epochtimes.com/ |
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On December 8, the wives of Li Baifang, Ma Ming and Zhou Mian went to visit their husbands
in detention, but they were also arrested as members of the AB Corps and cruelly tortured. They were severely beaten, their bodies and vulvae burned and breasts cut with knives. Under the cruel torture, Duan Liangbi confessed that Li Wenlin, Jin Wanbang, Liu Di, Zhou Mian, Ma Ming and others were leaders of the AB Corps and that there were many members of AB Corps in the Red Army’s schools. |
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Culture offers no answers for questions such as how to expand industrial production or what
social systems to adopt. Rather, it plays an important role in providing moral guidance and restraint. The true restoration of traditional culture shall be the recovery of humility toward heaven, the earth and nature, respect for life, and awe before God. It will allow humanity to live harmoniously with heaven and earth and to enjoy a heaven-given old age. |
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Religion forum, as mentioned earlier:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/135_Religion.html |
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Why are you just copy/paste everything and ignore all comments?
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Why are you just copy/paste everything and ignore all comments? I did reply some comments. It's really better when you do. If you want have people listen and sympathize with your position, you have to develop a relationship with them first. People are suspicious of strangers, and won't listen to a political message that's just dumped on them. |
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It's an exercise group with its leadership outside of China, hence the fear by the Chinese leadership of it. I unwittingly attended one of their propaganda shows and hated it. I don't care for propaganda from either side. Was it Shun Yun by any chance? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shen_Yun_Performing_Arts Shen Yun Performing Arts, formerly known as Divine Performing Arts, is a performing-arts and entertainment company based in New York.[1] It performs classical Chinese dance, ethnic and folk dance, and story-based dance,[2] with orchestral accompaniment and solo performers. The Shen Yun website translates the phrase shen yun as "the beauty of divine beings dancing". |
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I'm trying to balance my hatred of the Chicom ruling party with my hatred of forum spammers.
This could go either way. |
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I'm trying to balance my hatred of the Chicom ruling party with my hatred of forum spammers. This could go either way. There is no hatred here, hatred is not good. in your estimation, how many Chinese Citizens died during the cultural revolution? |
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I'm trying to balance my hatred of the Chicom ruling party with my hatred of forum spammers. This could go either way. There is no hatred here, hatred is not good. in your estimation, how many Chinese Citizens died during the cultural revolution? Conservative figures place the number of unnatural deaths in China during the Cultural Revolution at 7.73 million. People often mistakenly think that the violence and slaughter during the Cultural Revolution happened mostly during the rebel movements, and that it was the Red Guards and rebels who committed the killing. However, thousands of officially published Chinese county annuals indicate that the peak of unnatural deaths during the Cultural Revolution was not in 1966, when the Red Guards controlled most of the government organizations, or in 1967 when the rebels fought among different groups with weapons, but rather in 1968 when Mao regained control over the entire country. The murderers in those infamous cases were often army officers and soldiers, armed militiamen, and CCP members at all levels of the government. |
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Conservative figures place the number of unnatural deaths in China during the Cultural Revolution at 7.73 million. People often mistakenly think that the violence and slaughter during the Cultural Revolution happened mostly during the rebel movements, and that it was the Red Guards and rebels who committed the killing. However, thousands of officially published Chinese county annuals indicate that the peak of unnatural deaths during the Cultural Revolution was not in 1966, when the Red Guards controlled most of the government organizations, or in 1967 when the rebels fought among different groups with weapons, but rather in 1968 when Mao regained control over the entire country. The murderers in those infamous cases were often army officers and soldiers, armed militiamen, and CCP members at all levels of the government. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm trying to balance my hatred of the Chicom ruling party with my hatred of forum spammers. This could go either way. There is no hatred here, hatred is not good. in your estimation, how many Chinese Citizens died during the cultural revolution? Conservative figures place the number of unnatural deaths in China during the Cultural Revolution at 7.73 million. People often mistakenly think that the violence and slaughter during the Cultural Revolution happened mostly during the rebel movements, and that it was the Red Guards and rebels who committed the killing. However, thousands of officially published Chinese county annuals indicate that the peak of unnatural deaths during the Cultural Revolution was not in 1966, when the Red Guards controlled most of the government organizations, or in 1967 when the rebels fought among different groups with weapons, but rather in 1968 when Mao regained control over the entire country. The murderers in those infamous cases were often army officers and soldiers, armed militiamen, and CCP members at all levels of the government. thanks, are those government provided figures or from another source? what do you know of the death tolls in the famines that occurred in the late 1950s and what is the reason given for the famines? |
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I'm trying to balance my hatred of the Chicom ruling party with my hatred of forum spammers. This could go either way. There is no hatred here, hatred is not good. in your estimation, how many Chinese Citizens died during the cultural revolution? Conservative figures place the number of unnatural deaths in China during the Cultural Revolution at 7.73 million. People often mistakenly think that the violence and slaughter during the Cultural Revolution happened mostly during the rebel movements, and that it was the Red Guards and rebels who committed the killing. However, thousands of officially published Chinese county annuals indicate that the peak of unnatural deaths during the Cultural Revolution was not in 1966, when the Red Guards controlled most of the government organizations, or in 1967 when the rebels fought among different groups with weapons, but rather in 1968 when Mao regained control over the entire country. The murderers in those infamous cases were often army officers and soldiers, armed militiamen, and CCP members at all levels of the government. thanks, are those government provided figures or from another source? what do you know of the death tolls in the famines that occurred in the late 1950s and what is the reason given for the famines? http://pkg2.epochtimes.com/9pingdownload/English/9ping_en.pdf The Great Famine of 1959-1961 in China is the largest famine in human history. Estimated numbers of “abnormal deaths” in the famine range from 18 to 43 million. The Great Famine was falsely labeled a “Three-Year Natural Disaster” by the CCP. In fact, those three years had favorable weather conditions without any massive natural disasters like flooding, drought, hurricane, tsunami, earthquake, frost, freeze, hail or plague of locusts. The “disaster” was entirely caused by man. The Great Leap Forward campaign required everyone in China to become involved in steel-making, forcing farmers to leave their crops to rot in the field. Despite this, officials in every region escalated their claims on production yields. He Yiran, the First Secretary of the Party Committee of Liuzhou Prefecture, fabricated all by himself the shocking yield of “65,000 kilograms of paddy rice per mu [14]” in Huanjiang County. This was right after the Lushan Plenum when the CCP’s anti-rightist movement spread out to the entire country. In order to demonstrate that the CCP was correct all the time, the crops were expropriated by the government as a form of taxation according to these exaggerated yields. Consequently, the grain rations, seeds and staple foods of the peasants were all confiscated. When the demand still could not be met, the peasants were accused of hiding their crops. |
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Does this mean we should boycott rubber dogshit and phony puke?
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http://pkg2.epochtimes.com/9pingdownload/English/9ping_en.pdf The Great Famine of 1959-1961 in China is the largest famine in human history. Estimated numbers of “abnormal deaths” in the famine range from 18 to 43 million. The Great Famine was falsely labeled a “Three-Year Natural Disaster” by the CCP. In fact, those three years had favorable weather conditions without any massive natural disasters like flooding, drought, hurricane, tsunami, earthquake, frost, freeze, hail or plague of locusts. The “disaster” was entirely caused by man. The Great Leap Forward campaign required everyone in China to become involved in steel-making, forcing farmers to leave their crops to rot in the field. Despite this, officials in every region escalated their claims on production yields. He Yiran, the First Secretary of the Party Committee of Liuzhou Prefecture, fabricated all by himself the shocking yield of “65,000 kilograms of paddy rice per mu [14]” in Huanjiang County. This was right after the Lushan Plenum when the CCP’s anti-rightist movement spread out to the entire country. In order to demonstrate that the CCP was correct all the time, the crops were expropriated by the government as a form of taxation according to these exaggerated yields. Consequently, the grain rations, seeds and staple foods of the peasants were all confiscated. When the demand still could not be met, the peasants were accused of hiding their crops. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There is no hatred here, hatred is not good. in your estimation, how many Chinese Citizens died during the cultural revolution? Conservative figures place the number of unnatural deaths in China during the Cultural Revolution at 7.73 million. People often mistakenly think that the violence and slaughter during the Cultural Revolution happened mostly during the rebel movements, and that it was the Red Guards and rebels who committed the killing. However, thousands of officially published Chinese county annuals indicate that the peak of unnatural deaths during the Cultural Revolution was not in 1966, when the Red Guards controlled most of the government organizations, or in 1967 when the rebels fought among different groups with weapons, but rather in 1968 when Mao regained control over the entire country. The murderers in those infamous cases were often army officers and soldiers, armed militiamen, and CCP members at all levels of the government. thanks, are those government provided figures or from another source? what do you know of the death tolls in the famines that occurred in the late 1950s and what is the reason given for the famines? http://pkg2.epochtimes.com/9pingdownload/English/9ping_en.pdf The Great Famine of 1959-1961 in China is the largest famine in human history. Estimated numbers of “abnormal deaths” in the famine range from 18 to 43 million. The Great Famine was falsely labeled a “Three-Year Natural Disaster” by the CCP. In fact, those three years had favorable weather conditions without any massive natural disasters like flooding, drought, hurricane, tsunami, earthquake, frost, freeze, hail or plague of locusts. The “disaster” was entirely caused by man. The Great Leap Forward campaign required everyone in China to become involved in steel-making, forcing farmers to leave their crops to rot in the field. Despite this, officials in every region escalated their claims on production yields. He Yiran, the First Secretary of the Party Committee of Liuzhou Prefecture, fabricated all by himself the shocking yield of “65,000 kilograms of paddy rice per mu [14]” in Huanjiang County. This was right after the Lushan Plenum when the CCP’s anti-rightist movement spread out to the entire country. In order to demonstrate that the CCP was correct all the time, the crops were expropriated by the government as a form of taxation according to these exaggerated yields. Consequently, the grain rations, seeds and staple foods of the peasants were all confiscated. When the demand still could not be met, the peasants were accused of hiding their crops. thanks for giving me these figures, it helps to be prepared for what's coming our way. |
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In the most serious famines in China’s history prior to the CCP, there were cases in which
families exchanged one another’s children to eat, but nobody ever ate his own children. Under the CCP’s reign, however, people were driven to eat those who died, cannibalize those who fled from other regions, and even kill and eat their own children. The writer Sha Qing depicted this scene in his book Yi Xi Da Di Wan (An Obscure Land of Bayou): In a peasant’s family, a father was left with only his son and daughter during the Great Famine. One day, the daughter was driven out of the house by her father. When she came back, she could not find her younger brother, but saw white oil floating in the cauldron and a pile of bones next to the stove. Several days later, the father added more water to the pot, and called his daughter to come closer. The girl was frightened, and pleaded with her father from outside the door, “Daddy, please don’t eat me. I can collect firewood and cook food for you. If you eat me, nobody else will do this for you.” |
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Quoted: Yes, as a matter of fact I am a professional persecutor and I was planted here many years ago by the Chinese govt just in case one of these threads popped up. My work is done. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: First post? Enjoy your short stay..... wow....persecuted even here. fucking brilliant response even know what Falun Gong is? Yes, as a matter of fact I am a professional persecutor and I was planted here many years ago by the Chinese govt just in case one of these threads popped up. My work is done. My brother from another mother!!!
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Don't mind me, just spamming my own post count.
DAMN YOU! Wasted post 1776 on this shit!!!! |
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After the Lushan Plenum was held in 1959, General Peng Dehuai [15] was stripped of his power
for speaking out for the people. A group of government officials and cadres who dared to speak the truth were dismissed from their posts, detained or investigated. After that, no one dared to speak out the truth. At the time of the Great Famine, instead of reporting the truth, people concealed the facts about the deaths from starvation in order to protect their official positions. Gansu province even refused food aid from Shaanxi Province, claiming Gansu had too great a food surplus. |
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