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Posted: 6/13/2014 4:58:48 PM EDT
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Legitimate question: Is it common to for admin to have separate archives for internal and external email? Is this a .gov thing? I've worked in some rather large mail environments and have never seen this. Always archived by user/mail store/department/etc....
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:00:46 PM EDT
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My bullshit detector just fucking blew up from the spike.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:02:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:02:57 PM EDT
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Well that just confirms what we already knew
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:03:33 PM EDT
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My bullshit detector just fucking blew up from the spike. These are the people that claimed the dog ate their homework and expect that excuse will still fly as a grownup. 
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:03:34 PM EDT
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Legitimate question: Is it common to for admin to have separate archives for internal and external email? Is this a .gov thing? I've worked in some rather large mail environments and have never seen this. Always archived by user/mail store/department/etc.... NO |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:03:42 PM EDT
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Just hang in there, we can vote him out in 2 years. I'm sure there is no voter fraud going on in this country.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:04:17 PM EDT
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this takes everything to a whole new level how blatant this admin is.
This really is a "boating accident" and everyone knows it is.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:05:19 PM EDT
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Isn't that a violation of Sarbanes-Oxley? |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:07:09 PM EDT
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Isn't that a violation of Sarbanes-Oxley? You think Sar-OX applies to .gov 
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:09:43 PM EDT
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Its about as good as an excuse as "my dog ate my hw..."
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:10:44 PM EDT
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I guess it's not to early for the tinfoil now, huh?
ETA: It's official, we have an in-your-face F-U criminal element running this country. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:12:25 PM EDT
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Now's the time the congressman in charge of the investigation needs to say: "I guess to find those emails, Congress will have to AUDIT THE IRS".
Let's see how long after that announcement those emails turn up. "Oh shit! Look at what we found under the couch cushions in the IRS boss's office!" |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:13:31 PM EDT
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This, bet they are on a backup tape somewhere, Plus the recipient will have a copy, expand the search  Given how long it's taken for the IRS to produce the few emails that the committee actually received, expanding the search to other agencies will eat up another 2-3 years. Might even stall until Obama starts signing that bigass stack of pardons he's got brewing. The people investigating these scandals need to start thinking outside the box and start working outside the normal channels of bureaucracy. As it stands they're playing right into the hands of the democrats by allowing them full control of the pace and scope of information disclosure. The Republicans need to have independent techs scour these servers in a surprise 'raid' at 2AM. If the Democrats are going to play fast & loose with the law to suit their purposes, then the Republicans have to as well. Don't file a request with some sort of Democrat appointed liaison officer, get bounced around for months and eventually get handed a bunch of useless crap. That's playing into their hands; they can pick and choose what you do see, and 'accidentally' delete the rest. Once you have the legal authority to access their servers, show up personally without warning that very same day with your own tech guys and get the data yourself. Have a Capitol Police escort. Watch them stammer and panic as they're forced to actually comply with the law for once. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:14:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:17:45 PM EDT
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FDISK is not a server crash.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:20:15 PM EDT
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I'll bet they could find emails YOU sent 2 years ago. Blatant, bald-faced, "fuck you America" third world style corruption. Fucking Congress, may as well be the town council in some po-dunk little town out in the boonies, for all the more power and influence they have in dealing with this shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So almost 2 years later Congress still expects the emails to still be there? Heck that's long enough that they could have had a legit crash, it is the government after all and I don't place a lot of faith in their ability to do disaster recovery. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'll bet they could find emails YOU sent 2 years ago. Blatant, bald-faced, "fuck you America" third world style corruption. Fucking Congress, may as well be the town council in some po-dunk little town out in the boonies, for all the more power and influence they have in dealing with this shit. I'll bet you they can find emails I sent 10 years ago. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:23:23 PM EDT
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Corruption at the highest levels is what we have. The Democrats stole the election.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:23:43 PM EDT
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FDISK is not a server crash. nor a good way to even delay recovery of data more than 15 seconds ETA: I am sure the IRS : Run's their email on local direct attach disk has no backup policy for email Has a single email server per site that "crashed" <- if this is true then how is it that they have email 
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:31:05 PM EDT
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Typical Friday afternoon info dump during a busy news day. MSM will never pick up this story.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:31:22 PM EDT
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No wonder nobody will pass anything. You just can't trust these fuckers. I don't think we have enough rope.  One word. Recycle. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:34:20 PM EDT
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"...most transparent administration, ever!"  I rather think they are. This is the same shit every administration does, just on overdrive. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:34:31 PM EDT
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There is not enough toilet paper in the world to wipe away the shit from this administration.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:35:40 PM EDT
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Corruption at the highest levels is what we have. The DemocratsProgressives stole the electioncountry. FIFY
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:44:03 PM EDT
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Now's the time the congressman in charge of the investigation needs to say: "I guess to find those emails, Congress will have to AUDIT THE IRS". Let's see how long after that announcement those emails turn up. "Oh shit! Look at what we found under the couch cushions in the IRS boss's office!" Like when Los Alamos found two classified hard drives behind a photocopier? |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:47:28 PM EDT
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WhatDifferenceDoesItMake.jpg
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:48:22 PM EDT
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I bet Wiki-leaks could come up with them
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:49:48 PM EDT
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Yeah. Bullshit. Funny, they never lose the checks I pay my taxes with.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:51:45 PM EDT
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Now's the time the congressman in charge of the investigation needs to say: "I guess to find those emails, Congress will have to AUDIT THE IRS". Let's see how long after that announcement those emails turn up. "Oh shit! Look at what we found under the couch cushions in the IRS boss's office!" Hire PWC to audit them, I know they can find the emails. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:53:24 PM EDT
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lol that is awesome it takes balls to present that with a straight face I grudgingly admire the absolute brass balls the Zero administration has. "Emails? Yeah, can't find them. What the fuck you gonna do about it?" |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:54:30 PM EDT
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Yadda yadda rope yadda yadda lamppost yadda yadda can't say because of COC.
And that's all I have to say about that.  |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:54:55 PM EDT
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Convenient
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was a novice Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Extremely surprised Nixon didn't say this back in the day. "Oh, those tapes? Yeah, we lose them." He was a novice Not going to happen here. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:56:34 PM EDT
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I don't believe that for a second. Even we have multiple off site back ups every day. I would wager the IRS would too.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:56:58 PM EDT
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“Without liberty, law loses its nature and its name, and becomes oppression. Without law, liberty also loses its nature and its name, and becomes licentiousness.”
James Wilson, Of the Study of the Law in the United States, 1790 “If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.” James Madison, Federalist 51, February 6, 1788 At what point do we just play along and agree that the Constitution was a nice tool offering suggestions for government as our Republic "evolves" into a "progressive" democracy? |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:58:39 PM EDT
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No wonder nobody will pass anything. You just can't trust these fuckers. I don't think we have enough rope. We have way more than enough rope. What we lack is the will to use it... for now. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:00:39 PM EDT
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Heads are gonna roll for this!!
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:02:58 PM EDT
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Obama is gonna be so mad when he reads about this in the paper!
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:03:08 PM EDT
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Outrage. Bullsh!t! Call that Representative at 202-226-4774 and demand that the people in charge at the IRS are put in jail for contempt of Congress until the emails can be located. There are five open spaces at GITMO.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:12:48 PM EDT
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Pure Bullshit. Since Clinton was in office, all federal agencies were mandated to maintain all data produced, either backed up on disk or hard copy. We spent hundreds of thousands as an agency purchasing backup devices for maintaining "historical" data beginning in the late 1990's. Continued lies and corruption to protect the Lier-In-Chief." Sickening.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:14:53 PM EDT
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Thats convenient
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:15:54 PM EDT
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Obama is gonna be so mad when he reads about this in the paper! 
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:16:27 PM EDT
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I'll bet they could find emails YOU sent 2 years ago. Blatant, bald-faced, "fuck you America" third world style corruption. Fucking Congress, may as well be the town council in some po-dunk little town out in the boonies, for all the more power and influence they have in dealing with this shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So almost 2 years later Congress still expects the emails to still be there? Heck that's long enough that they could have had a legit crash, it is the government after all and I don't place a lot of faith in their ability to do disaster recovery. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'll bet they could find emails YOU sent 2 years ago. Blatant, bald-faced, "fuck you America" third world style corruption. Fucking Congress, may as well be the town council in some po-dunk little town out in the boonies, for all the more power and influence they have in dealing with this shit. Quite the opposite in my experience, living in Florida for the last 14 years. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:16:32 PM EDT
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One would think GAO / OIG would be all over this ...
but nope |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:20:18 PM EDT
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Pure Bullshit. Since Clinton was in office, all federal agencies were mandated to maintain all data produced, either backed up on disk or hard copy. We spent hundreds of thousands as an agency purchasing backup devices for maintaining "historical" data beginning in the late 1990's. Continued lies and corruption to protect the Lier-In-Chief." Sickening. Yup. In a previous life, I worked as a contractor for the DOJ building databases for their electronic litigation center. The servers for all .gov agencies are backed up every few days by law. This law also applies to certain businesses.....I don't recall what the criteria is, but if a bank was under investigation and they said 'Sorry, my server crashed', they'd have obstruction and tampering with evidence added to whatever else they were being charged with. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:22:23 PM EDT
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Anybody who stands by that story needs to go to jail. Maybe that would convince somebody to magically cough up the incriminating evidence.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:22:36 PM EDT
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Yup. In a previous life, I worked as a contractor for the DOJ building databases for their electronic litigation center. The servers for all .gov agencies are backed up every few days by law. This law also applies to certain businesses.....I don't recall what the criteria is, but if a bank was under investigation and they said 'Sorry, my server crashed', they'd have obstruction and tampering with evidence added to whatever else they were being charged with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pure Bullshit. Since Clinton was in office, all federal agencies were mandated to maintain all data produced, either backed up on disk or hard copy. We spent hundreds of thousands as an agency purchasing backup devices for maintaining "historical" data beginning in the late 1990's. Continued lies and corruption to protect the Lier-In-Chief." Sickening. Yup. In a previous life, I worked as a contractor for the DOJ building databases for their electronic litigation center. The servers for all .gov agencies are backed up every few days by law. This law also applies to certain businesses.....I don't recall what the criteria is, but if a bank was under investigation and they said 'Sorry, my server crashed', they'd have obstruction and tampering with evidence added to whatever else they were being charged with. It's different when they do it I am sure Holder's DOJ will be all over it crickets |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:22:57 PM EDT
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I've got two decades in the industry at the lowest levels of systems engineering & infrastructure.
Bullshit. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:25:34 PM EDT
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FDISK is not a server crash. 
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:25:54 PM EDT
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So if my computer shits the bed and all my tax info and tax programs are gone does that mean I don't have to pay this year?
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