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Posted: 6/10/2014 4:53:35 PM EDT
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To quote Han Solo "Didn't we just leave this party?"
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Posted: 6/10/2014 4:58:45 PM EDT
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I hope the kurds clean their clock
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:03:58 PM EDT
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I never said we went all Ghengis Kahn on our former enemies, I said we occupied them and forced them to comply. It worked, it would work in the middle east as well. We occupy..PERMANENTLY, and start the process of transforming their culture. It takes decades but it eventually works and we don't end up going back to the same shit holes again and again. I would, however, be in favor of a more hostile approach than we have used in the past. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ladies and gentlemen, this thread has now it about every derp talking point. 1) Made up derp history about US occupations 2) Reference to derpy chain e-mail about Pershing as it it, too were real history 3) Claim that the US is supporting ISIS. What more might befall us before this thread is done? Did we not occupy Germany, Italy, and Japan after WWII? And did we not maintain control of those countries and ensure that they did not fall back into chaos? Yes. But not in the manner you seem to suggest. I'd be the first to agree we should have formally occupied Iraq. That was an asinine political decision not to. But your characterization of past US occupations is laughable. I never said we went all Ghengis Kahn on our former enemies, I said we occupied them and forced them to comply. It worked, it would work in the middle east as well. We occupy..PERMANENTLY, and start the process of transforming their culture. It takes decades but it eventually works and we don't end up going back to the same shit holes again and again. I would, however, be in favor of a more hostile approach than we have used in the past. Actually we should have taken the opposite approach. Instead of going in proclaiming we are bringing democracy to the country we should have taken out Saddam and his top henchmen and installed a puppet that we control, while leaving most of the country's infrastructure intact. More of orchestrating a coup than an invasion and destruction of half the country. We should have taken the Roman approach: crush them militarily and make a few examples, but leave the culture and governing bodies largely intact. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:08:50 PM EDT
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Or..or...now hear me out on this....we not spend a few trillion dollars we don't have and don't go to the shit holes to begin with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We occupy..PERMANENTLY, and start the process of transforming their culture. It takes decades but it eventually works and we don't end up going back to the same shit holes again and again. Or..or...now hear me out on this....we not spend a few trillion dollars we don't have and don't go to the shit holes to begin with. You understand that if ISIS takes this and holds it, you provide AQ with a new base to set up operations that will eventually end up striking us or Europe, right? You think these guys are looking for retirement property? |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:09:42 PM EDT
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Anyone think that Iran will come in to help their Shia brothers
fight the Sunni? |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:12:34 PM EDT
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This must be one of the foreign policy triumphs the Whitehouse is bragging about these days.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:12:51 PM EDT
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Anyone think that Iran will come in to help their Shia brothers fight the Sunni? Pretty damn sure it's already in the pipeline. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:14:04 PM EDT
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You understand that if ISIS takes this and holds it, you provide AQ with a new base to set up operations that will eventually end up striking us or Europe, right? You think these guys are looking for retirement property? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We occupy..PERMANENTLY, and start the process of transforming their culture. It takes decades but it eventually works and we don't end up going back to the same shit holes again and again. Or..or...now hear me out on this....we not spend a few trillion dollars we don't have and don't go to the shit holes to begin with. You understand that if ISIS takes this and holds it, you provide AQ with a new base to set up operations that will eventually end up striking us or Europe, right? You think these guys are looking for retirement property? The way it's looking in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Yemen, Nigeria, Afganistan (when we leave) (and who did I miss?) its beginning to look like them having a "sanctuary" is inevitable. Those bastards are spreading their hate quite well. Eventually it's going to come to Europe and the good ole USofA. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:15:25 PM EDT
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Pretty damn sure it's already in the pipeline. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone think that Iran will come in to help their Shia brothers fight the Sunni? Pretty damn sure it's already in the pipeline. The whole M.E. will burn. Thanks Obama 
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:18:52 PM EDT
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Can we have the Cold War back?
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:20:43 PM EDT
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ConflictReporter ?@MiddleEast_BRK 14m
#BREAKINGNEWS THE #ISIS OFFENSIVE CONTINUES! THE #SULAIMAN_BEK DISTRICT BTW. #KIRKUK AND #BAGHDAD FELL THIS EVENING. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:22:30 PM EDT
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Anyone think that Iran will come in to help their Shia brothers fight the Sunni? I would bet the Iranians are too deep in Syria to help Maliki, and they'd like to replace him with someone even more pro-Iranian. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:23:02 PM EDT
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Rami ?@RamiAlLolah 6m
#Kurdish officer having his big LMFAO on #Maliki forces running away from #Ninawa.. #Iraq 
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:23:36 PM EDT
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The whole M.E. will burn. Thanks Obama Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone think that Iran will come in to help their Shia brothers fight the Sunni? Pretty damn sure it's already in the pipeline. The whole M.E. will burn. Thanks Obama When he didn't back the Green Movement in 2010, he pretty much ensured a wider ME War. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:27:48 PM EDT
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No, full occupation and total control of their entire country would have kept the peace. You know, like we used to do.
We need to get back in the business of CONQUERING people and taking their shit. This nation building bullshit is a waste of time, lives, and resources. Either submit to our domination or fucking die. Period. I can live with this policy.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:28:25 PM EDT
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I would bet the Iranians are too deep in Syria to help Maliki, and they'd like to replace him with someone even more pro-Iranian. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone think that Iran will come in to help their Shia brothers fight the Sunni? I would bet the Iranians are too deep in Syria to help Maliki, and they'd like to replace him with someone even more pro-Iranian. If they send in troops to Iraq(Maliki already asked for assistance) they can fight ISIS in the open. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:29:39 PM EDT
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IPs and IAs doing what the do.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:31:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kyle W. Orton ?@Syrian_Intifada 1h Here we go / RT @RamiAlLolah Sources confirm hundreds fully equipped Peshmerga units heading towards Mosul awaiting signal to storm the city Thank God. Those are Iraqis that WILL fight.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:32:39 PM EDT
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If they send in troops to Iraq(Maliki already asked for assistance) they can fight ISIS in the open. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone think that Iran will come in to help their Shia brothers fight the Sunni? I would bet the Iranians are too deep in Syria to help Maliki, and they'd like to replace him with someone even more pro-Iranian. If they send in troops to Iraq(Maliki already asked for assistance) they can fight ISIS in the open. And never ever leave. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:36:05 PM EDT
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If they send in troops to Iraq(Maliki already asked for assistance) they can fight ISIS in the open. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone think that Iran will come in to help their Shia brothers fight the Sunni? I would bet the Iranians are too deep in Syria to help Maliki, and they'd like to replace him with someone even more pro-Iranian. If they send in troops to Iraq(Maliki already asked for assistance) they can fight ISIS in the open. They don't have to....and I doubt they want to. They've just gotten the Baluchis under control. This could ignite a conflict with both the Baluch and Khuzistani Arabs. That would be bad news. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:38:05 PM EDT
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ConflictReporter ?@MiddleEast_BRK 16m
#BREAKINGNEWS THE IRAQI ARMY WITHDRAWS FROM #BAIJI WITHOUT A FIGHT!!! LOCAL TRIBES TRY TO ORGANIZE DEFENSE VS. EXPECTED ISIS ATTACK TONIGHT. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:39:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And never ever leave. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone think that Iran will come in to help their Shia brothers fight the Sunni? I would bet the Iranians are too deep in Syria to help Maliki, and they'd like to replace him with someone even more pro-Iranian. If they send in troops to Iraq(Maliki already asked for assistance) they can fight ISIS in the open. And never ever leave. I think at most. We'll be droning the shit out of them. They're pretty easy targets. They're being pretty open and boastful right out in plain sight.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:41:33 PM EDT
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I'm reading they captured a shit load of arms (a scary shit load)
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:43:18 PM EDT
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I'm reading they captured a shit load of arms (a scary shit load) Wouldn't doubt it. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:44:48 PM EDT
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Rami ?@RamiAlLolah 3m
#Mosul gone! This what actually happens when you hand #Iraq keys to incapable retards Mr. #Obama #POTUS. 
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:45:18 PM EDT
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Did anyone really expect a different outcome? 
Frankly, I'm surprised it took this long.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:47:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:48:02 PM EDT
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fucking awesome... this shit just pisses me the fuck off. Mosul was our AO for one of my deployments. We lost 11 people getting that place under control for fucking nothing I guess. I am not military, so I don't know like you do...but that would make me rage. I am sorry for your losses. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:48:57 PM EDT
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Can we have the Cold War back? This, that was fun. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:50:01 PM EDT
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The Gulf Arabs WILL NOT allow the Iranian armed forces to enter Iraq.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:51:14 PM EDT
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I'll join you guys, if we can we loosen up the fucking ROE this time around. I know that place like the back of my hand 
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Who's ready to go back? Me. I'll join you guys, if we can we loosen up the fucking ROE this time around. I know that place like the back of my hand
I'm with you guys. I know the east side of the river pretty well |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:52:15 PM EDT
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I'm sitting this one out. That place and it's people aren't worth one more drop of my sweat.
Let it burn. No sense in trying to fight a fire that you can't put out. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:52:39 PM EDT
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Interesting map. I wonder how long before ISIS figures out that most of their enemies drink water they control, and need the pipeline routes ISIS controls. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:53:21 PM EDT
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The Gulf Arabs WILL NOT allow the Iranian armed forces to enter Iraq. What are they going to stop them with? |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:55:41 PM EDT
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Ladies and gentlemen, this thread has now it about every derp talking point. 1) Made up derp history about US occupations 2) Reference to derpy chain e-mail about Pershing as it it, too were real history 3) Claim that the US is supporting ISIS. What more might befall us before this thread is done? Vaccines, contrails, fluoride, Kennedy................ |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:59:16 PM EDT
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What are they going to stop them with? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Gulf Arabs WILL NOT allow the Iranian armed forces to enter Iraq. What are they going to stop them with? 
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:01:36 PM EDT
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Needs some Apaches, A-10's and some AC-130 gunships.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:04:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIf they cross Route Ford in Kirkuk, shit will get interesting. The Kurds control everything north of Ford and they fucking hate arab Iraqi's. They will fight. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:06:52 PM EDT
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My first deployment was in 2003, we helped take the stupid airport in that crap town. I remember handing it over to the 101st thinking it meant we were going to get stuck back on the damn ships.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:11:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:16:50 PM EDT
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No more American blood and treasure for those worthless goat fuckers. We've buried too many of our own (God bless and keep them) freeing and protecting a nation that neither wants us there, nor treasures human life enough that they are worth defending. There is not one additional GI life worth sacrificing for those savages.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:23:38 PM EDT
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I can see that a lack of heavy air support is really hamstringing what little Iraqi resistance there is. Do they even have a working CAS structure?
The Iraqi's seem totally over matched either in fighting skills or fighting spirit, or both. I would have no issue with the Air Force bombing them back to the stone age while supporting Kurdish troops to kill them all. We can not just let it deteriorate to far or we will be back in force in a few years time. I blame Obama for this disaster. We should have kept forces there to maintain the situation. Iraq is becoming a shit sandwich and we are gonna have to take a bite I think
Love how I have to watch BBC to get info on this US media are reporting nothing about it.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:26:14 PM EDT
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Ladies and gentlemen, this thread has now it about every derp talking point. 1) Made up derp history about US occupations 2) Reference to derpy chain e-mail about Pershing as it it, too were real history 3) Claim that the US is supporting ISIS. What more might befall us before this thread is done? 4) Saddam was a benevolent leader, who used just enough force to keep the country together |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:37:44 PM EDT
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Powell "If We Break it, We Own It"
Obama " If you like your ................." Oh well. 
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:43:00 PM EDT
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So basically Iraq (now that we're no longer there) is going to be what Afghanistan was 13 years ago, a big sanctuary nation of and for terrorists?
Am I assuming this right? |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:43:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 4) Saddam was a benevolent leader, who used just enough force to keep the country together Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ladies and gentlemen, this thread has now it about every derp talking point. 1) Made up derp history about US occupations 2) Reference to derpy chain e-mail about Pershing as it it, too were real history 3) Claim that the US is supporting ISIS. What more might befall us before this thread is done? 4) Saddam was a benevolent leader, who used just enough force to keep the country together LOL
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:50:33 PM EDT
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No, full occupation and total control of their entire country would have kept the peace. You know, like we used to do. We need to get back in the business of CONQUERING people and taking their shit. This nation building bullshit is a waste of time, lives, and resources. Either submit to our domination or fucking die. Period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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fucking awesome... this shit just pisses me the fuck off. Mosul was our AO for one of my deployments. We lost 11 people getting that place under control for fucking nothing I guess. For once, you can really say, "Thanks, Obama!" A skeleton crew would have kept the peace. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No, full occupation and total control of their entire country would have kept the peace. You know, like we used to do. We need to get back in the business of CONQUERING people and taking their shit. This nation building bullshit is a waste of time, lives, and resources. Either submit to our domination or fucking die. Period. I like your style. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:52:31 PM EDT
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Good, let the Kurds have the area. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kyle W. Orton ?@Syrian_Intifada 1h Here we go / RT @RamiAlLolah Sources confirm hundreds fully equipped Peshmerga units heading towards Mosul awaiting signal to storm the city Good, let the Kurds have the area. When I saw this I thought "where the hell are the Kurds?" I guess they are coming. They will clean house. I spent a year in that city and the Kurds were the only local troops worth half a damn. |
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:53:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2014 6:54:03 PM EDT
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I'm reading they captured a shit load of American supplied arms (a scary shit load) |
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