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Posted: 8/18/2014 10:56:01 AM EDT

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Here we go. No sighters, no warmups. Got to the range and made all shots for record. No mulligans, no excuses.

First gun is a TOZ-35. It's a USSR-made free pistol, and it's my match gun for 50m men's pistol. It dos NOT like this ammo, but it's all I had. No excuses.

Here's my club' long distance pistol range: It's KD 25 and 50 yard. Target is at 25 yards.

Yes, the clouds were moving in and out and the evening sun was nasty. No excuses.

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TOZ-35 Free Pistol (limited rimfire):

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A 1955-manufacture original Ruger Single Six (stock rimfire):

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A stock Glock 19 w/ Sevigny night sights (stock):

Note: I caught the upper right edge of the paper with one shot, but all 25 did hit the paper. I estimated the outside ring by putting a bullet over the hole. Yes, I'm aware that increased the group size by a little. I thought that was the fair way to do it. No excuses there - I very nearly missed the paper completely and I shouldn't have.

Calipers are set at 6". I made a mark (you can't see because it's in the black) and added the two measurements to get the full 11.48" group size. If that's not cool, I can get another picture with a tape measure or something.

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My S&W Shield 9mm w/ Trijicon HDs and the Apex trigger package (carry): - NOTE: I only count 17 shots on paper and my target carrier had too many holes elsewhere for a fair assessment. I did not shoot it again with more paper because, lets face it - I missed.

However, this is an interesting comparison that shows just how much better of a fighting gun a duty-size handgun (Glock 19) is than a subcompact. Even as nice as the Shield is, small guns are harder to shoot. Still, no excuses; I need more practice.

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Limited Rimfire - TrojanMan - TOZ-35 - Factory free pistol - Aguila Match Pistol - one hand - 5.55 - MOA

Stock Rimfire - TrojanMan - Ruger Single Six (1955 manf.) - none - Aguila Match Pistol - one hand - 5.41 - MOA

Stock - TrojanMan - Glock 19 Gen4 - Sevigny night sights - 115gr Hornady FMJ handload - two hand - 11.48 - MOA

Carry - TrojanMan - S&W Shield 9mm - Trojicon HD night sights & Apex trigger package - 115gr Hornady FMJ handload - two hand - More than 14" - DNF

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Next time I go to the range, I will shoot a target with my TOZ-35. Let's see if I can meet or beat you

Posted: 8/18/2014 11:04:49 AM EDT

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GREAT job.

That is really impressive shooting with the G19. Really impressive.

I don't believe such things exist, but this thread has me wondering what a reduction of 2 pounds on my P250's would do for me. They are all DAO of course. Mmmm..

Again, GREAT shooting.

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Thank You! Yeah the lighter trigger definitely helped it out. A lot of people don't like that on their carry but I've shot enough ammo through it that I trust it.
That is also about the only handgun I have shot regularly since carrying about 7-8 years ago. First was a gen3 g19 with 3.5# kit, then I tried my luck with M&P9. I couldn't get better groups than about 3-4" at 7-10 yds.

Come to find out some of the early M&P9's had accuracy problems, only on the full size. You can watch my Cola Warrior videos. Every one that I shot with the M&P I left targets after going through two mags. I blamed me the first time. So I shot it a lot more and decided it was the gun. Everybody still blamed me. Sold it and got a g19 gen 4 and cleared this years targets with 11 shots. 5 8" plates at 25yds and one peep shaped 8" at 40 yds.

I've been very happy with that gun and I doubt I'll have the nerve to try much else. It really is a perfect gun for me. I think I just need about 5 more.

Posted: 8/18/2014 12:37:02 PM EDT

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I guess I should update results again

Posted: 8/18/2014 1:38:15 PM EDT

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results updated

Green_Canoe: I won't accept non-official targets.

TrojanMan: I couldn't count 25 holes on your .22 targets and you didn't show the clean target backer. I included it anyways but you should reshoot them

Posted: 8/18/2014 2:04:04 PM EDT

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TrojanMan: I couldn't count 25 holes on your .22 targets and you didn't show the clean target backer. I included it anyways but you should reshoot them

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I should reshoot them anyhow because I did a shitty job of it.

I just didn't adequately prepare. I should have put a clean piece of cardboard on my carrier, I should have bought some good ammo, hell, I should have actually gotten some sleep and not had the midnight watch all week.

As for the hole count, I had some touching pretty close. I thought I counted them all at the time, but do what you gotta do. It's not like it's good enough performance to be in the top tier anyhow, so it is what it is.

I'll go back and do it again with a clean piece of cardboard. No promises on when.

Posted: 8/18/2014 2:14:22 PM EDT

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To show that the top group is shorter by 1/16"

Also the ammo used for the PMR was Hornady Critical Defense.

Posted: 8/21/2014 11:12:36 PM EDT

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Pics and measurments will be up soon for my two most recent entries.

Same range as last time. I was with my brother who is an Arf member and appears too embarrassed to post his attempt using my G22. I will get a range picture he took if need be.

My first entry is my limited division entry. Vostok Toz-35 with SK Jagd Standard Plus. One handed. The second entry is the one that counts and, needless to say I'm very happy with it. The first attempt wasn't bad either, and may measure within spec was just over 26 MOA- but I was disappointed with a couple of specific shots and the fact that it really seemed like I had two groups going. Mods are limited to grip shaping, which included removing wood and attaching leather to various points of the grip and palm shelf, by a previous user in Russia. 19.44 MOA.

The second entry that I am contributing could not hold the 25 MOA standard, though it is a very good target none the less. I shot it with my just acquired Glock 27 using UMC 180 Grain FMJ. Two handed. The gun is equipped with Trijcon night sights and also had a pearce grip extension, which interestingly does not impact carryability. 32.27 MOA.

Posted: 8/27/2014 12:16:36 AM EDT

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Here we go, finally:

This is the range. The target I'm shooting at is the right-most paper on the left-side stand.

Here are my shots. As you may note, there are only 24 obvious hits on this target. It is my belief that the "missing" shot was made at the 12-o'clock position of the sticker, which tore away the top of the sticker without leaving a grease spot. I'll leave it up to you to decide if that's a reasonable conclusion.

Pulled up 6.1 inches with my calipers; the battery was dead so the digital display was inoperative.

The Glock 21 Short Frame. I have used this as a carry gun, but I entered it as stock because it is more of a full-size frame than it is a carry one.

ETA: It turns out that I didn't quite measure the farthest two holes, so the average CTC is actually 6.3 in rather than 6.1 in. Always room for improvement, either way.

Stock - fervid_dryfire - Glock 21SF - No customizations - Winchester Whitebox 230gr FMJ - two hand - 6.3" - 22.342 MOA

Posted: 8/27/2014 12:28:38 AM EDT

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Pics and measurments will be up soon for my two most recent entries.

Same range as last time. I was with my brother who is an Arf member and appears too embarrassed to post his attempt using my G22. I will get a range picture he took if need be.

My first entry is my limited division entry. Vostok Toz-35 with SK Jagd Standard Plus. One handed. The second entry is the one that counts and, needless to say I'm very happy with it. The first attempt wasn't bad either, and may measure within spec was just over 26 MOA- but I was disappointed with a couple of specific shots and the fact that it really seemed like I had two groups going. Mods are limited to grip shaping, which included removing wood and attaching leather to various points of the grip and palm shelf, by a previous user in Russia. 19.44 MOA.

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The second entry that I am contributing could not hold the 25 MOA standard, though it is a very good target none the less. I shot it with my just acquired Glock 27 using UMC 180 Grain FMJ. Two handed. The gun is equipped with Trijcon night sights and also had a pearce grip extension, which interestingly does not impact carryability. 32.27 MOA.

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Very nice! Compact and sub-compact Glocks are amazing accuracy-wise, compared to many of their peers. I was never all that accurate with the G27 I used to have, but the groups I was able to shoot with my G26 and G19 were far better than most reasonable expectations.

Posted: 8/27/2014 7:00:43 PM EDT

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well. tried it out today. only 19 out of 25 on the BIG target

and that group was 17". done with my EDC Taurus PT1911 and WWB ammo. gun is a little loose and i need some practice, methinks

will try again next week possibly

Posted: 8/27/2014 8:40:03 PM EDT

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Very nice! Compact and sub-compact Glocks are amazing accuracy-wise, compared to many of their peers. I was never all that accurate with the G27 I used to have, but the groups I was able to shoot with my G26 and G19 were far better than most reasonable expectations.

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Pics and measurments will be up soon for my two most recent entries.

Same range as last time. I was with my brother who is an Arf member and appears too embarrassed to post his attempt using my G22. I will get a range picture he took if need be.

My first entry is my limited division entry. Vostok Toz-35 with SK Jagd Standard Plus. One handed. The second entry is the one that counts and, needless to say I'm very happy with it. The first attempt wasn't bad either, and may measure within spec was just over 26 MOA- but I was disappointed with a couple of specific shots and the fact that it really seemed like I had two groups going. Mods are limited to grip shaping, which included removing wood and attaching leather to various points of the grip and palm shelf, by a previous user in Russia. 19.44 MOA.

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The second entry that I am contributing could not hold the 25 MOA standard, though it is a very good target none the less. I shot it with my just acquired Glock 27 using UMC 180 Grain FMJ. Two handed. The gun is equipped with Trijcon night sights and also had a pearce grip extension, which interestingly does not impact carryability. 32.27 MOA.

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Very nice! Compact and sub-compact Glocks are amazing accuracy-wise, compared to many of their peers. I was never all that accurate with the G27 I used to have, but the groups I was able to shoot with my G26 and G19 were far better than most reasonable expectations.

So far, I have found that I don't shoot it all that much worse than my G22- in fact in some drills (at 7-10 yards) I actually find that I shoot it better, perhaps because I'm forced to concentrate more. I mentioned that my brother refuses to post his 25 MOA all day challenge target that he shot with my G22- which by all accounts is bad. After that target, I let him try both using larger B-27 targets. Shooting 5 round strings, he was much more consistent with the 27.

Posted: 8/28/2014 7:23:38 PM EDT

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I shot my Glock 17 today at 25 yards using the 12" grid target I normally use.

I got almost all my shots in the 8" ring in the center and left of it (7.375" OTO)... but I pulled 1 shot and it was way outside the 12" ring (~10" OTO).

I'm approaching 25 Glock MOA though.

Posted: 8/28/2014 10:23:00 PM EDT

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I shot my Glock 17 today at 25 yards using the 12" grid target I normally use.

I got almost all my shots in the 8" ring in the center and left of it (7.375" OTO)... but I pulled 1 shot and it was way outside the 12" ring (~10" OTO).

I'm approaching 25 Glock MOA though.

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You'll get there. Glocks are definitely capable of better than 20 MOA, on average. A few people in this thread have clearly proven such- but I'm sure you already noticed that.

Mastering that unusual trigger squeeze is the key, in my experience.

Posted: 8/29/2014 8:49:28 AM EDT

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You'll get there. Glocks are definitely capable of better than 20 MOA, on average. A few people in this thread have clearly proven such- but I'm sure you already noticed that.

Mastering that unusual trigger squeeze is the key, in my experience.

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I shot my Glock 17 today at 25 yards using the 12" grid target I normally use.

I got almost all my shots in the 8" ring in the center and left of it (7.375" OTO)... but I pulled 1 shot and it was way outside the 12" ring (~10" OTO).

I'm approaching 25 Glock MOA though.

You'll get there. Glocks are definitely capable of better than 20 MOA, on average. A few people in this thread have clearly proven such- but I'm sure you already noticed that.

Mastering that unusual trigger squeeze is the key, in my experience.

Trigger parts help too.

Posted: 8/29/2014 10:49:10 AM EDT

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I shot my Glock 17 today at 25 yards using the 12" grid target I normally use.

I got almost all my shots in the 8" ring in the center and left of it (7.375" OTO)... but I pulled 1 shot and it was way outside the 12" ring (~10" OTO).

I'm approaching 25 Glock MOA though.

You'll get there. Glocks are definitely capable of better than 20 MOA, on average. A few people in this thread have clearly proven such- but I'm sure you already noticed that.

Mastering that unusual trigger squeeze is the key, in my experience.

Trigger parts help too.

Some of us don't need that kind of help.

Posted: 8/31/2014 9:09:30 PM EDT

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results updated

Posted: 9/19/2014 5:30:29 PM EDT

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Bump

I got my G35 this week and shot it today.

I'll have a new entry soon

Posted: 9/19/2014 5:34:07 PM EDT

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I shot my Glock 17 today at 25 yards using the 12" grid target I normally use.

I got almost all my shots in the 8" ring in the center and left of it (7.375" OTO)... but I pulled 1 shot and it was way outside the 12" ring (~10" OTO).

I'm approaching 25 Glock MOA though.

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I've been making an effort with my 26... I can almost pull it off but there always seems to be one or two fliers.

Posted: 10/28/2014 11:26:37 PM EDT

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bump

Posted: 10/28/2014 11:43:58 PM EDT

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Maybe I should try again, I just shot my best GSSF score with my 26.

Posted: 10/29/2014 12:33:05 AM EDT

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Finally got my 1911 RO range ready. I'll try to get out soon.

Posted: 11/16/2014 2:36:08 PM EDT

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No newcomers?

Posted: 11/16/2014 3:19:34 PM EDT

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I'll give it another whirl.

Posted: 11/16/2014 3:46:53 PM EDT

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I shot my Glock 17 today at 25 yards using the 12" grid target I normally use.

I got almost all my shots in the 8" ring in the center and left of it (7.375" OTO)... but I pulled 1 shot and it was way outside the 12" ring (~10" OTO).

I'm approaching 25 Glock MOA though.

You'll get there. Glocks are definitely capable of better than 20 MOA, on average. A few people in this thread have clearly proven such- but I'm sure you already noticed that.

Mastering that unusual trigger squeeze is the key, in my experience.

Trigger parts help too.

Some of us don't need that kind of help.

Speak for yourself I need all the help I can get lol

Posted: 11/22/2014 7:11:02 PM EDT

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Here's mine from today 19.65moa ? ? maybe slightly less
I used 5.5" max spread, I thnk it is slightly under, closer to 5.25" I think ,

OPEN , Toothandnail , Glock , Gen 4 17 , modified , 9mm , hand loads 147gr , 2 hands , 5.5" , 19.65moa

Tooth and Nail Armory G17 , Burris FFlll 8moa dot , comp by Tooth and Nail Armory

A little harder than I thought it would be, my dot covered the white, made it hard to get a consistent aiming reference, that makes my dot bigger than 8moa correct ? ?

Posted: 11/25/2014 11:43:09 AM EDT

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Newcomer here. Saw your "Challenge" over on the brianenos forums so thought I'd join to post up some targets. Hopefully I'll include everything needed. This was shot yesterday 11/24/14.

I shoot in a canyon that is National Forrest Land a couple miles from my home here in So Arizona. I built a target stand that I drag along so I can try different targets at different distances.

Pic of target stand at 25 yds.

75' as measured with my 100' tape.

I stand next to my truck so most of the brass goes in the bed, less to pick up out of the dirt.

Clean Target.

25 shots 2 handed, unsupported.

Target shot with Tanfoglio Limited .45 ACP using 200 SWC Bayou Bullet reloads. Pistol is box stock, I added the UltraDot MatchDot II.

Calipers showing 4.92" OTO, 4.468" CTC, 17.07 MOA

Posted: 11/26/2014 10:11:29 AM EDT

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Tried to edit my post to add the Division, User Name, etc but got error message that new accounts were limited to 2000 characters. I'll list it here.

Open - Gwelo - Tanfoglio Witness Elite Limited .45 ACP - UltraDot MatchDot II - 200 SWC hand loads - 2 handed - 4.468" CTC - 17.07 MOA

Posted: 11/26/2014 11:16:39 AM EDT

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I improved my Open Rimfire group on 11/26 so will replace pics and info rather than a new post.

Target stand at 25 yds.

25 shots, 2 handed, unsupported.

Target with Colt Gold Cup Trophy lower and Nelson Custon conversion, UltraDot MatchDot II, SK-Standard Plus ammo

Calipers show 3.400 OTO, 3.177 CTC, 12.137 MOA

Open Rimfire - Gwelo - Colt Gold Cup Trophy lower, Nelson Custom .22lr Conversion - UltraDot MatchDot II - SK Standard Plus - 2 handed - 3.177" CTC - 12.137 MOA

Posted: 11/27/2014 4:51:54 PM EDT

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Very nice shooting Gwelo!!

Posted: 11/29/2014 10:32:41 AM EDT

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Thanks EVR! This thread is a hoot!

Posted: 12/1/2014 2:16:50 PM EDT

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Shot my Colt Gold Cup Trophy a couple days ago, 11/29, same canyon. It is completely original except I've tweaked the stock trigger parts to about 2 lb 8 oz. Shooting my reloads of 200 SWC Bayou Bullet with 3.0 g of Bullseye.

Target Stand at 25 yds

Target

Target and pistol, shot 2 handed, unsupported.

Target with scale showing 6.156" OTO, 5.704" CTC, 21.79 MOA

Limited - Gwelo - Colt Gold Cup Trophy - 2-1/2# Trigger - Handloads 200 SWC - 2 Handed - 5.704" CTC - 21.79 MOA

Posted: 12/7/2014 7:58:28 PM EDT

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updated

Posted: 12/14/2014 10:42:13 PM EDT

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Long time lurker. First time poster. As noted above, the challenge showed up on Brian Enos' forum so I thought I would give it a whirl. I shot 2 groups. The first group was with my Open Division pistol. The gun is a .38SC built by Matt McLearn. I am shooting 124 MG gold bullets, Lapua Brass, Fed. SR primers, and 9.5 grains of VV 3n38 powder.

The set up and distance. Camera depth of view looks shallow. The berm in the back ground is 65 yards but looks closer. Groups were shot two hands standing without support.

Pic of the target and gun:

And lastly, the group size being measured:

The flier at 11:00 kind of messd things up. If you shoot it you own it. I didn't see any point in shooting more than one group.
The second effort was with my primary carry gun. The gun is a Colt .38 Super with some custom work. The pistol is now in .38 Lapua. The load was a 115 Berry over 5.0 of Tite Group. Set up and distance same as above.

Pic of the target and gun:

Pic of the group being measured:

I thought I would do better with the Open gun. The flier kind of hurt. This seems like more of an endurance test than a consistency test.

I have been shooting in competition since junior high school (1968). Along the way I have made Master, High Master, or Grandmaster in five handgun shooting sports. I sure wish we get some of the folks who don't compete (but post about abilities that would smoke us all like a cheap cigar), would get into competition so they could represent the country at the Olympics, IPSC World Shoot, etc.

Posted: 12/16/2014 6:13:58 PM EDT

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Long time lurker. First time poster. As noted above, the challenge showed up on Brian Enos' forum so I thought I would give it a whirl. I shot 2 groups. The first group was with my Open Division pistol. The gun is a .38SC built by Matt McLearn. I am shooting 124 MG gold bullets, Lapua Brass, Fed. SR primers, and 9.5 grains of VV 3n38 powder.

The set up and distance. Camera depth of view looks shallow. The berm in the back ground is 65 yards but looks closer. Groups were shot two hands standing without support.
http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/75.jpg
http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/setup.jpg

Pic of the target and gun:
http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/open.jpg

And lastly, the group size being measured:
http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/open_size.jpg

The flier at 11:00 kind of messd things up. If you shoot it you own it. I didn't see any point in shooting more than one group.
The second effort was with my primary carry gun. The gun is a Colt .38 Super with some custom work. The pistol is now in .38 Lapua. The load was a 115 Berry over 5.0 of Tite Group. Set up and distance same as above.

Pic of the target and gun:
http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/carry.jpg

Pic of the group being measured:
http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/carry_size.jpg

I thought I would do better with the Open gun. The flier kind of hurt. This seems like more of an endurance test than a consistency test.

I have been shooting in competition since junior high school (1968). Along the way I have made Master, High Master, or Grandmaster in five handgun shooting sports. I sure wish we get some of the folks who don't compete (but post about abilities that would smoke us all like a cheap cigar), would get into competition so they could represent the country at the Olympics, IPSC World Shoot, etc.

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Nice first post and nice shooting. Welcome.

Posted: 12/20/2014 5:35:31 AM EDT

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Didn't follow all the rules. But here it is anyway.
Open-56clubsedan-tanfoglio witness elite match-2lb trigger job, magwell, target sights-freedom munitions 115 grain-two hand-7.6875-28.01

First time shooting this pistol. I adjusted the sights after this.

Posted: 2/5/2015 2:29:50 PM EDT

[#36]

Necroposting to keep the thread alive.

Posted: 2/15/2015 1:49:15 PM EDT

[#37]

went shooting yesterday! found this thread today.

great motivate thread! will do 25yards/25 rounds next with rules

below: 10 rounds 25' standing two handed

edit to subscribe

Posted: 2/15/2015 4:13:42 PM EDT

[#38]

Well, I finally got out to do another target with another handgun. This time I used my S&W Model 15.

So here's my second entry:

My Range (Panamint Valley Area):

Target with shots:

Analyzed target:

Revolver:

Summary: Stock Division, S&W Model 15 Revolver (using single action), no customizations, .38 spl. hand loads, two hands, 5.73 inches, 21.87 MOA.

Posted: 2/15/2015 4:17:36 PM EDT

[#39]

I did this recently, and a shot missed the cardboard.

Looking for pics to post proof of failure, but I'm fully admitting I failed the challenge.

ETA Pics, and my definition of "recent" sucks

This was October.

Carry - 7255 - Springfield Armory XD9 SubCompact - none - Winchester White Box - Two -infinite - infinite

Posted: 2/15/2015 6:03:38 PM EDT

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Nice first post and nice shooting. Welcome.

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Long time lurker. First time poster. As noted above, the challenge showed up on Brian Enos' forum so I thought I would give it a whirl. I shot 2 groups. The first group was with my Open Division pistol. The gun is a .38SC built by Matt McLearn. I am shooting 124 MG gold bullets, Lapua Brass, Fed. SR primers, and 9.5 grains of VV 3n38 powder.

The set up and distance. Camera depth of view looks shallow. The berm in the back ground is 65 yards but looks closer. Groups were shot two hands standing without support.

http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/75.jpg

http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/setup.jpg

Pic of the target and gun:

http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/open.jpg

And lastly, the group size being measured:

http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/open_size.jpg

The flier at 11:00 kind of messd things up. If you shoot it you own it. I didn't see any point in shooting more than one group.

The second effort was with my primary carry gun. The gun is a Colt .38 Super with some custom work. The pistol is now in .38 Lapua. The load was a 115 Berry over 5.0 of Tite Group. Set up and distance same as above.

Pic of the target and gun:

http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/carry.jpg

Pic of the group being measured:

http://www.rtconnect.net/~rankeny/carry_size.jpg

I thought I would do better with the Open gun. The flier kind of hurt. This seems like more of an endurance test than a consistency test.

I have been shooting in competition since junior high school (1968). Along the way I have made Master, High Master, or Grandmaster in five handgun shooting sports. I sure wish we get some of the folks who don't compete (but post about abilities that would smoke us all like a cheap cigar), would get into competition so they could represent the country at the Olympics, IPSC World Shoot, etc.

Nice first post and nice shooting. Welcome.

Yeah, no shit. Nice pistols too.

Posted: 2/20/2015 1:55:09 PM EDT

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Shot with my buddies PMR30 and was like dang this thing is very accurate. But that actually translated into it is easier for me to keep it on the bullseye. I shoot my glock better but at 25 yds. I have to hold at the bottom 1/4 of my 8" plate to hit bullseye. The PMR was right on. This is with an aim of aligning the tops of the sights to intersect with the POA. On the target I held my sights to intersect the middle just so it was an easier POA. Like I said I know to hold low with it for bullseye.

Target. I stuck a little twig in the bottom because the wind was blowing. The tear at the bottom left is from my buddy snatching the target out.

http://i.imgur.com/9mHe7oF.jpg

Range measured with a tape

http://i.imgur.com/idvIei5.jpg

AAR

http://i.imgur.com/Ny2qLZN.jpg

The line is because I measured CTC in the field instead of OTO. So I drew a line and copied it in PS and moved it to the tape.

http://i.imgur.com/AdNDCdy.jpg

6.1875 - .223 = 5.9645
5.9645 / .26175 = 22.787 MOA

This is my G19 Daily carry. It has a 3.5 connector and light springs, rest is stock besides the tlr3.

http://i.imgur.com/al1ZbcU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0QMdeno.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JPuRbOr.jpg

4.250 - .355 = 3.895
3.895 / .26175 = 14.880 MOA

PMR better bullseye shooter for me.
G19 better group shooter for me. Maybe I'll try some different sights when I get the money.

ETA ammo used was WWB for G19 not sure what was in the PMR

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I missed this somehow. That is absolutely phenomenal shooting with a stock G19, factory plastic sights, and WWB. I'm amazed. Wow, nice job!

Posted: 3/5/2015 2:46:25 AM EDT

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Posted: 3/22/2015 9:52:59 PM EDT

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Never!

Posted: 3/23/2015 6:24:56 PM EDT

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I gave this one a try today. One bad "flyer". I was taking up slack prior to firing and Oops! Oh well!

The Range

The Target, with Ruler. (I gotta do better! My dial calipers don't go this big!)

The gun.

I used Federal in the 555 box.

Coulda shoulda woulda!

I am going to have to do this again! I think I can beat 4-1/2"

Full disclosure. I tried with my PPQ and my 5906. I was under 6-1/2 with the PPQ but 8 shots were just to the left of the target. I need to drift my sight and try it again. I had a few awful shots with the 5906 and opened up to about 9". I may clean it and try something other than WWB.

I had fun. It is difficult to not screw up one time when doing this!

Posted: 3/23/2015 6:26:06 PM EDT

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I gave this one a try today. One bad "flyer". I was taking up slack prior to firing and Oops! Oh well!

The Range
<a href="http://s33.photobucket.com/user/gspointer/media/IMG_0317_zps73sqm9ja.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/gspointer/IMG_0317_zps73sqm9ja.jpg</a>

The Target, with Ruler. (I gotta do better! My dial calipers don't go this big!)
<a href="http://s33.photobucket.com/user/gspointer/media/IMG_0325_zpslulko5fa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/gspointer/IMG_0325_zpslulko5fa.jpg</a>

The gun.
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I used Federal in the 555 box.

Coulda shoulda woulda!
<a href="http://s33.photobucket.com/user/gspointer/media/IMG_0326_zpsj7yg2do7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/gspointer/IMG_0326_zpsj7yg2do7.jpg</a>

I am going to have to do this again! I think I can beat 4-1/2"

Full disclosure. I tried with my PPQ and my 5906. I was under 6-1/2 with the PPQ but 8 shots were just to the left of the target. I need to drift my sight and try it again. I had a few awful shots with the 5906 and opened up to about 9". I may clean it and try something other than WWB.

I had fun. It is difficult to not screw up one time when doing this!

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Never!

I gave this one a try today. One bad "flyer". I was taking up slack prior to firing and Oops! Oh well!

The Range
<a href="http://s33.photobucket.com/user/gspointer/media/IMG_0317_zps73sqm9ja.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/gspointer/IMG_0317_zps73sqm9ja.jpg</a>

The Target, with Ruler. (I gotta do better! My dial calipers don't go this big!)
<a href="http://s33.photobucket.com/user/gspointer/media/IMG_0325_zpslulko5fa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/gspointer/IMG_0325_zpslulko5fa.jpg</a>

The gun.
<a href="http://s33.photobucket.com/user/gspointer/media/IMG_0324_zpsanr21dlc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/gspointer/IMG_0324_zpsanr21dlc.jpg</a>

I used Federal in the 555 box.

Coulda shoulda woulda!
<a href="http://s33.photobucket.com/user/gspointer/media/IMG_0326_zpsj7yg2do7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/gspointer/IMG_0326_zpsj7yg2do7.jpg</a>

I am going to have to do this again! I think I can beat 4-1/2"

Full disclosure. I tried with my PPQ and my 5906. I was under 6-1/2 with the PPQ but 8 shots were just to the left of the target. I need to drift my sight and try it again. I had a few awful shots with the 5906 and opened up to about 9". I may clean it and try something other than WWB.

I had fun. It is difficult to not screw up one time when doing this!

Oh, I got 6.59" with the .22

Posted: 4/17/2015 6:59:48 PM EDT

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Bump, in hopes I will finally be able to add to this thread this weekend.

Posted: 4/17/2015 8:34:12 PM EDT

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Really? This is a challenge?

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As I suspected, 9 pages and nearly a year later, you still haven't put up a target. Not surprising since most are just all talk.

I'll do my part to pad the bottom of the list here when the weather is nice

Posted: 4/17/2015 11:23:33 PM EDT

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Yeah, there's only been a few qualifying entries since August. It'd be nice to get the list updated again, though.

Posted: 4/18/2015 3:02:15 PM EDT

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I'm warmin up fellas! 2 handed, irons... I see I have much more practice to do...but settled into my stance a bit today....I've done the 25 yard target thing around ten times now. Cant wait to see if groups tighten up at 50 times or 100.

getting contact lenses and match ammo monday too!

I like what the S&W 17 did for me today with Thunderbolt... 7" 1/16 or thereabouts. Everything else was 8 3/4, 8 1/8, 8 1/4, 8 3/4... pistols: 22/45, buckmark, 22s, and single six

it was gusty up to 10kts.

My buckmark rifle came in at 5 5/8...

Posted: 4/18/2015 7:29:17 PM EDT

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I'm warmin up fellas! 2 handed, irons... I see I have much more practice to do...but settled into my stance a bit today....I've done the 25 yard target thing around ten times now. Cant wait to see if groups tighten up at 50 times or 100.

getting contact lenses and match ammo monday too!

I like what the S&W 17 did for me today with Thunderbolt... 7" 1/16 or thereabouts. Everything else was 8 3/4, 8 1/8, 8 1/4, 8 3/4... pistols: 22/45, buckmark, 22s, and single six

it was gusty up to 10kts.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/10553663_10205081316605105_4742676318138354201_o.jpg

My buckmark rifle came in at 5 5/8...

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Hope the new peepers and ammo help you out some Bounce.

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