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Posted: 4/27/2014 3:51:08 PM EDT
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The Pentagon plans to destroy more than $1 billion worth of ammunition although some of those bullets and missiles could still be used by troops, according to the Pentagon and congressional sources. It's impossible to know what portion of the arsenal slated for destruction — valued at $1.2 billion by the Pentagon — remains viable because the Defense Department's inventory systems can't share data effectively, according to a Government Accountability Office report link to article - Any chance of a firemission to save the ammo for the civilian market? |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 3:51:28 PM EDT
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Ammo reclass stuff?
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Posted: 4/27/2014 3:51:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:01:24 PM EDT
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That's disgusting.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:02:45 PM EDT
[#5]
Group buy?
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:03:40 PM EDT
[#6]
Fuck it, let it burn.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:03:43 PM EDT
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Our Fine Young President has decreed that no money will be wasted in storing ammunition.
So it is decreed. So let it be. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:04:54 PM EDT
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Sacrilege
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:05:53 PM EDT
[#9]
what a waste of taxpayer dollars. You'd think people would be up in arms about that, but they aren't for some reason.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:06:34 PM EDT
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WHAT.
THE. FUCK??? And they cant sell it surplus (assuming its rifle and pistol ammo) because?????????? I fucking hate our govt. 
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:08:05 PM EDT
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Gov wasting money? Say it ain't so.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:08:29 PM EDT
[#12]
Don't worry Khalid knows his stuff. "In defense of the Pentagon.the gunpowder in old stored ammo can deteriorate,causing less stopping power,and a danger to our men and women in uniform. "
What a joke.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:08:41 PM EDT
[#13]
...and dhs just got done buying 40m rounds multiple times....
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:10:18 PM EDT
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WHAT. THE. FUCK??? And they cant sell it surplus (assuming its rifle and pistol ammo) because?????????? I fucking hate our govt.
Because they would be putting it into the very hands of the people they are trying to take it away from |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:12:18 PM EDT
[#15]
guess they don't need it to kill us anymore
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:12:58 PM EDT
[#16]
Is it obsolete munitions that cannot be sold on the open market or is it just more .gov bullshit ?
Surly there has to be more info here. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:13:32 PM EDT
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Imagine that
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:14:48 PM EDT
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That's disgusting. Oh we can afford to destroy billons in ammo, we're only trillions in debt. 
Sell the bullets, then take the money and upgrade your stupid accounting & inventory system. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:17:37 PM EDT
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Daring pre-dawn heist?
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:19:45 PM EDT
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Daring pre-dawn heist? Clean up on the way out and they probably won't even know it's missing for a long time, if ever. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:20:09 PM EDT
[#21]
This doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:23:15 PM EDT
[#22]
Not surprised, but WTF?
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:27:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Is this where all the 22 ammo went
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:28:25 PM EDT
[#24]
Is it all the 22LR they've been buying up?
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:29:54 PM EDT
[#25]
Let's remember this next time they ask for money for more ammo.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:31:28 PM EDT
[#26]
fuckers
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:33:33 PM EDT
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Let's remember this next time they ask for money for more ammo. No shit. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:33:48 PM EDT
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If they're having data management problems, I have an old Macbook Pro I could let them have for $15 million.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:35:34 PM EDT
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they could at least give it to the cmp.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:36:39 PM EDT
[#30]
The government wouldn't need to pay to store it if they donated it to DCM clubs, law enforcement agencies, and people who are active in shooting sports competition. Or, it could be sold through the DCM to anyone who wants to buy it. Hell, I would buy and use 7.62x51 ammo left over from the Viet-Nam era, as long as it was stored properly.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:38:00 PM EDT
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Government waste.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:39:45 PM EDT
[#32]
Give it all to the Ukrainians. They can destroy it for us
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:40:10 PM EDT
[#33]
I doubt much of it is RFI small arms ammo.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:40:36 PM EDT
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This doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:40:59 PM EDT
[#35]
I would gladly burn it one round at a time.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:41:42 PM EDT
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Because they would be putting it into the very hands of the people they are trying to take it away from Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WHAT. THE. FUCK??? And they cant sell it surplus (assuming its rifle and pistol ammo) because?????????? I fucking hate our govt.
Because they would be putting it into the very hands of the people they are trying to take it away from Yes, indeed. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:41:57 PM EDT
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what a waste of taxpayer dollars. You'd think people would be up in arms about that, but they aren't for some reason. They would be, but have you seen ammo prices lately? 
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:44:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Ugh....
typical waste someone else's money, and don't give a flying fuck. .....and FBHO. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:46:50 PM EDT
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I can't remember the last time there was surplus US military ammunition on the market. For .223 and 50 caliber there's been pulldown projectiles, powder, and brass being sold for over 20 years at least, this site comes to mind http://www.gibrass.com/index.html
You can buy once fired .223 brass by the TON at government auctions |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:48:52 PM EDT
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They should sell if off to the American public. Why waste it? Those customers are gonna buy the ammo they want somewhere, anyway...
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:50:05 PM EDT
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I can, for a 5 year contract, including the wookie's private cell phone number, show them how to use Excel and SharePoint to manage their ammo issues. I'll take payment in CCI Mini Mags - semi loads of Mini Mags. And a bunch of brightly colored drink umbrellas for the 4.99999 years I'll be poolside after completely fulfilling my contract. I'll need the .gov to reinforce the streets in my hood to handle the semis.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:50:37 PM EDT
[#42]
They better hold onto it.
Looks like we are about to be in another conflict |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:54:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They should sell if off to the American public. Why waste it? Those customers are gonna buy the ammo they want somewhere, anyway...  Can't allow the serfs to arm themselves. They may try to overthrow The King. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:55:40 PM EDT
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The report illustrates the obsolete nature of the Pentagon's inventory systems for ammunition. A request for ammunition from the Marine Corps, for example, is e-mailed to the Army. The e-mail is printed out and manually retyped into the Army system because the services cannot share data directly. Not only is this time consuming, but it can introduce errors — by an incorrect keystroke, for example. This was my experience when I was asked to assess the finance systems at DFAS. I figured I could replace whole departments with simple data interchange systems increasing accuracy (for the reasons stated above), customer service (service members had to wait months for checks because the manual data transfer took so long) and reducing costs. Of course my proposals were shot down. No civil servant in his right mind wants to reduce his headcount! |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 4:55:42 PM EDT
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Let's remember this next time they ask for money for more ammo. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 5:01:26 PM EDT
[#46]
Let me guess...
A shit-ton of old 40mm Duster ammo, 90mm RR ammo, early generation sidewinders/sparrows, and other munitions no longer used? |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 5:02:14 PM EDT
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My prediction; Some 8-A contractor from Chicago will get a contract to destroy the ammo for another $1,000,000,000.
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Posted: 4/27/2014 5:02:36 PM EDT
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Any chance of a firemission to save the ammo for the civilian market? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Pentagon plans to destroy more than $1 billion worth of ammunition although some of those bullets and missiles could still be used by troops, according to the Pentagon and congressional sources. It's impossible to know what portion of the arsenal slated for destruction — valued at $1.2 billion by the Pentagon — remains viable because the Defense Department's inventory systems can't share data effectively, according to a Government Accountability Office report link to article - Any chance of a firemission to save the ammo for the civilian market? 
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Posted: 4/27/2014 5:08:00 PM EDT
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Let me guess... A shit-ton of old 40mm Duster ammo, 90mm RR ammo, early generation sidewinders/sparrows, and other munitions no longer used? That, old propellant, and other unserviceable/obsolete ammo is my bet. |
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Posted: 4/27/2014 5:09:44 PM EDT
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Order the destruction of existing stocks of small arms ammo, then issue new contracts from small arms munitions manufacturers to replace that which was destroyed. Maintain the status quo of limited availability of 5.56 mm NATO, 7.62mm NATO, and 9 mm NATO ball ammunition for sales to the civilian market.
Some of you people really underestimate how shrewd Obama and his appointees are. That, or I'm giving the government more credit than it deserves. |
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