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From the 2nd link: Allow me to explain why the presence of my slate on the Hugo nominations is so controversial. This is complicated and your time is valuable, so short explanation first, longer explanation if you care after. View Quote Short Version:
I’ve said for a long time that the awards are biased against authors because of their personal beliefs. Authors can either cheer lead for left wing causes, or they can keep their mouth shut. Open disagreement is not tolerated and will result in being sabotaged and slandered. Message or identity politics has become far more important than entertainment or quality. I was attacked for saying this. I knew that when an admitted right winger got in they would be maligned and politicked against, not for the quality of their art but rather for their unacceptable beliefs. If one of us outspoken types got nominated, the inevitable backlash, outrage, and plans for their sabotage would be very visible. So I decided to prove this bias and launched a campaign I called Sad Puppies (because boring message fiction is the leading cause of Puppy Related Sadness). The Hugos are supposed to be about honoring the best works, and many of the voters still take this responsibility very seriously. I thank them for this. But basically the Hugos are a popularity contest decided by the attendees of WorldCon. I am a popular writer, however my fans aren’t typical WorldCon attendees. Anyone who pays to purchase a WorldCon membership is allowed to vote. Other writers, bloggers, and even publishing houses have encouraged their fans to get involved in the nomination process before. I simply did the same thing. This controversy arises only because my fans are the wrong kind of fans. For the people saying that I bought votes, or made up fake people, or bought memberships for a couple hundred imaginary relatives, nope. For those saying I committed fraud, put up or shut up. That would be extremely easy to prove if it were the case. I’ve been up front and public the whole time. Sadly, the thing which has so damaged your calm consisted of a few blog posts and I drew a cartoon. And I’m a terrible artist: http://monsterhunternation.com/2014/01/14/sad-puppies-2-the-illustrated-edition/ Eventually one of my friends colored the cartoon in PhotoShop and one of my fans thought it was funny and made a video. Sorry, outrage crowd. No big evil conspiracy. An evil right winger is treading in your sacred halls because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzGKlOkQsxY I mean, seriously, my spokesman was a manatee. No. I’m not making that up. So Sad Puppies 2: Rainbow Puppy Lighthouse The Huggening got my fans involved. Really, that was what we called it. Because writing is such a serious business. Even last year’s winner, John Scalzi, has said that I did nothing different than what he and other authors have done before. And Scalzi and I seldom agree on anything. Tor.com wrote a scathing bit condemning my actions (and implied what a horrid writer I am). Of course, the very same website did the exact same thing explaining to Wheel of Time fans how the rules allowed them to nominate all 14 books as a single work and encouraged them to get involved. And a cursory Google search by my fans found dozens of other places where authors, reviewers, and bloggers had pushed their favorite works and tried to get fans involved. We always hear about how fandom is supposed to be inclusive… Only apparently my fans are the wrong kind of fans. They don’t care about the liberal cause of the day. They don’t care about Social Justice. They like their books entertaining rather than preachy. They probably vote incorrectly. That sort of thing. The last few days have been kind of awesome. I said that for the Hugo’s the writer’s politics were more important than the quality of their work. I was called a liar. Yet, within a couple of hours of the announcement there were multiple posts from the other side where groups of SJWs were strategizing how to make sure No Award beat me, and how to punish every other artist I recommended as well. Others were complaining that the rules needed to be changed to keep the undesirables out. All of this was while they proudly bragged how they had not read me, nor ever would… because tolerance. Hell if I know. For those who have heard that I’m a terrible, undeserving writer whose mere presence is a mockery of their sacred system, but haven’t read any of my books, I’m actually pretty decent. Feel free to judge for yourself. For the record, my novel that is nominated, Warbound, is the final book in a trilogy that has sold extremely well, been translated into a bunch of other languages where it has also done well, gotten tons of positive reviews (out of the thousands of reviews for this series from across all the various different places I’m still at 4 ½ stars) won and been nominated for other awards, is one of the bestselling and most praised audiobook series there is, has won two Audies, is currently nominated for a third, and been a finalist for best novel in other countries where I don’t speak the language and can’t campaign, so there is that… But everybody knows bad people can’t create art, says the side that keeps showering Roman Polanski with awards. In closing, I would really like everybody who is a voting member of WorldCon to actually read the works in each category and vote based upon which ones they think are best. I fully expect Wheel of Time to win my category of best novel. It is a fourteen book epic written by two authors over twenty six years. Duh. Personally, my goal has been reached. I got the thought police to show the world their pretty pink panties. :) Longer version in the link. ETA: His books. |
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But the future is only supposed to be for the Politically Correct!
There ought to be a law.... |
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The author in question is Larry Correia, and he's absolutely right. Most science fiction is hopelessly PC anymore, which is why I quit reading much of it.
Some of you may remember Mr. Correia as an owner of the FBMG (Fuzzy Bunny Movie Gun) gun shop in Utah back in the day. He took up writing sci fi some years ago, producing the Monster Hunter series of books, which just plain kick ass, and are VERY politically incorrect. You might describe the books as gun porn science fiction, and he knows what he's talking about gunwise, unlike most writers. You could do worse than to pick up the first novel, Monster Hunters International, and go from there. monster hunter series at amazon His Grimnoir and Dead Six series are also very good. Here's his blog: http://monsterhunternation.com/ Scroll down a bit for his original article concerning the Hugo Award and the lefties controlling modern science fiction. Mr. Correia is laughing all the way to the bank. He is a breath of fresh air in the sci fi community. |
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I love Larry's books and read them all. I have met him a few times and talked guns with him. Very good guy
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I quit paying attention to the Hugo awards stuff, years ago. Always seemed to be so much crap. <<shrugs>>
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Quoted: I quit paying attention to the Hugo awards stuff, years ago. Always seemed to be so much crap. <<shrugs>> View Quote Yep, to me all the writing awards are like the Academy Awards, if something wins big in either the chances are that it's some boring, artsy, navel-gazing crap that only a critic could love. Personally I am a big fan of Mr. Correia's books, they entertain me and that's kinda the whole point. |
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I pretty much just read free books for my kindle anymore, some very talented unheard of writers out there. That said, I'll probably pick up one of his books because of his actions in regards to the award. Monster Hunters is good you say?
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Quoted: I pretty much just read free books for my kindle anymore, some very talented unheard of writers out there. That said, I'll probably pick up one of his books because of his actions in regards to the award. Monster Hunters is good you say? View Quote Monster Hunters International is awesome. I really liked Hard Magic too. |
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Anyone remember the hair pulling garment rending mass hysteria over Orson Scott Card? I do.
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Quoted: Yep, to me all the writing awards are like the Academy Awards, if something wins big in either the chances are that it's some boring, artsy, navel-gazing crap that only a critic could love. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I quit paying attention to the Hugo awards stuff, years ago. Always seemed to be so much crap. <<shrugs>> Yep, to me all the writing awards are like the Academy Awards, if something wins big in either the chances are that it's some boring, artsy, navel-gazing crap that only a critic could love. The worst of the scifi ones was Forever Peace. Total shit. I haven't read the scifantasy ones. |
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I'll have to check out his books. All the writing awards are leftist popularity contests these days.
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I pretty much just read free books for my kindle anymore, some very talented unheard of writers out there. That said, I'll probably pick up one of his books because of his actions in regards to the award. Monster Hunters is good you say? View Quote Hell Yes! I'm reading Monster Hunter International again. Vulcan94 |
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What non-socialist scifi novel should have won the Hugo and why did the Hugo winner in that year not deserve to win?
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Interesting. Didn't Heinlein win a Hugo Award for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress? Considering how libertarian that book is; it seems that things have changed quite a bit.
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Interesting. Didn't Heinlein win a Hugo Award for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress? Considering how libertarian that book is; it seems that things have changed quite a bit. View Quote Good and bad in fiction: The Bad: Like any form of entertainment it is a mouthpiece for certain literary "normals" that are very lock-step with Hollywood. Lots of books representing a lot of leftist views and a lot of the editing makes it to make our regular conservative values out to be some evil plot. Hunger Games and Twilight. With their success there is a lot of push for authors to grab tween-twenty readers. This has brought a groundswell of new closeted authors and hipster-esque movement to capture the youth reading market. The Good: Hunger Games and Twilight. No, really. You think I'm joking. Twilight brought MILLIONS of new readers (especially young readers) into books, especially sci-fi and fantasy. While not particular to Twilight, Hunger Games (and now Divergent) have been extremely popular right-ish plots that kids are eating up. A lot of the old guard sci-fi and fantasy novelists still write stories, not politics. |
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A terrific series of books. http:// http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/543/img2187j.jpg View Quote You need a Night-Watchman (2") to go along with that one. |
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It's so damned sad and maddening when simply speaking the truth draws such massive condemnation.
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It's so damned sad and maddening when simply speaking the truth draws such massive condemnation. View Quote It's been going on a while. John Ringo glances off the left/write publishing issue in his Princess of Wands series. They "critics" pretty much universally hate authors published by Baen, while I use them as "what to read next". Mostly Ringo, Correa, and Weber. |
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I pretty much just read free books for my kindle anymore, some very talented unheard of writers out there. That said, I'll probably pick up one of his books because of his actions in regards to the award. Monster Hunters is good you say? View Quote hell to the yes. 1st chapter of that book will grab you right away. protagonist sounds like an Arfcommer gone wild. what round for werewolf? |
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In all fairness, from a literary standpoint, his books are pretty badly written.
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It's so damned sad and maddening when simply speaking the truth draws such massive condemnation. View Quote Of course. ..because it shows their hypocrisy. ..... Vox Day, isn't someone, from reading his Blog, that I agree with on too many things. .....that said, I LIKE his work that I have read so far. I voted for his short's Nomination because I Liked IT not HIM......... That's the point of Larry's whole issue. They even ADMIT they would vote against Day because of him, without ever reading the work.......All the while vehemently denying it. And of course, anyone who dares disagree with the group think, Is deemed a sock puppet. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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hell to the yes. 1st chapter of that book will grab you right away. protagonist sounds like an Arfcommer gone wild. what round for werewolf? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I pretty much just read free books for my kindle anymore, some very talented unheard of writers out there. That said, I'll probably pick up one of his books because of his actions in regards to the award. Monster Hunters is good you say? hell to the yes. 1st chapter of that book will grab you right away. protagonist sounds like an Arfcommer gone wild. what round for werewolf? First chapter? Hell, the first sentence will grab you! |
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Quoted: Yep, to me all the writing awards are like the Academy Awards, if something wins big in either the chances are that it's some boring, artsy, navel-gazing crap that only a critic could love. Personally I am a big fan of Mr. Correia's books, they entertain me and that's kinda the whole point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I quit paying attention to the Hugo awards stuff, years ago. Always seemed to be so much crap. <<shrugs>> Yep, to me all the writing awards are like the Academy Awards, if something wins big in either the chances are that it's some boring, artsy, navel-gazing crap that only a critic could love. Personally I am a big fan of Mr. Correia's books, they entertain me and that's kinda the whole point. lol so true same way as 12 years a slave won shit this year even judges admit they undeservedly voted for it as to not be seen as racists. |
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The whole thing has been a fucking a riot.
Keep up with it on his Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/larry.correia |
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I'm sitting here rolling up a character with my Autographed by Larry copy of the MHI RPG book he put out.
Great books! The next one is due out in July. |
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I'm sorry, but when you are not that good of a writer, blaming the lack of an award on political persecution is lame.
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I'm sorry, but when you are not that good of a writer, blaming the lack of an award on political persecution is lame. View Quote If he were bemoaning his own lack of awards or accolades, and ignoring other writers, that would be a point. That's not what I'm taking away from his blog posts. YMMV. |
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I'm sorry, but when you are not that good of a writer, blaming the lack of an award on political persecution is lame. If he were bemoaning his own lack of awards or accolades, and ignoring other writers, that would be a point. That's not what I'm taking away from his blog posts. YMMV. "My fans are the wrong kind of fans." He is bemoaning his own fate that his two dimensional pulp did not get an award. |
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Corriea writes good and stuff, I like his books. Him, Tom Kratman, and Michael Z Williamson are never going to be beloved by the libs, moonbats, and non-governmental organizations.
But I'll keep buying their books. |
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I figured this was about Card
I remember when the left went apeshit after he made some comments about gays |
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"My fans are the wrong kind of fans." He is bemoaning his own fate that his two dimensional pulp did not get an award. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm sorry, but when you are not that good of a writer, blaming the lack of an award on political persecution is lame. If he were bemoaning his own lack of awards or accolades, and ignoring other writers, that would be a point. That's not what I'm taking away from his blog posts. YMMV. "My fans are the wrong kind of fans." He is bemoaning his own fate that his two dimensional pulp did not get an award. Again, that's not what I'm getting. Seriously, you read what he had to say about the people he calls "Social Justice Warriors", and their corrosive influence on publishing, and that doesn't ring true? I've read commentary on this subject from L. Neil Smith, for one, who had much the same to say about what kinds of stories and characters are pre-approved by publishing houses and their editors, and the hoops an author must jump through to get work published. It's not as if Correia is saying anything new or surprising, rather that he's running the same gauntlet other libertarian writers have endured before. The difference here is that he seems to be able to use the internet and the connections it provides to expose this kind of thing in a way which was impossible even a few years ago. Good for him. |
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Corriea writes good and stuff, I like his books. Him, Tom Kratman, and Michael Z Williamson are never going to be beloved by the libs, moonbats, and non-governmental organizations. But I'll keep buying their books. View Quote And that's the point. The writing is crap, but its crap for gun enthusiasts, so it gets support, but it is not worthy, from a writing standpoint of awards. Ive got several copies of MHI when it was self-published with the olive drab MHI patch on the cover. I bought them because I wanted to support a fellow gun owner, not because I thought they were works of literary genius. |
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Most Sci-Fi is unreadable today.
Vox Day, Larry Correia, and Tom Kratman are bright spots in a dismal genre. |
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And that's the point. The writing is crap, but its crap for gun enthusiasts, so it gets support, but it is not worthy, from a writing standpoint of awards. Ive got several copies of MHI when it was self-published with the olive drab MHI patch on the cover. I bought them because I wanted to support a fellow gun owner, not because I thought they were works of literary genius. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Corriea writes good and stuff, I like his books. Him, Tom Kratman, and Michael Z Williamson are never going to be beloved by the libs, moonbats, and non-governmental organizations. But I'll keep buying their books. And that's the point. The writing is crap, but its crap for gun enthusiasts, so it gets support, but it is not worthy, from a writing standpoint of awards. Ive got several copies of MHI when it was self-published with the olive drab MHI patch on the cover. I bought them because I wanted to support a fellow gun owner, not because I thought they were works of literary genius. So you are saying that Scalzi's novel "Redshirts" is worthy of a Hugo award. HAHAHAHAHA! The stuff that wins awards today is atrocious. |
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Again, that's not what I'm getting. Seriously, you read what he had to say about the people he calls "Social Justice Warriors", and their corrosive influence on publishing, and that doesn't ring true? I've read commentary on this subject from L. Neil Smith, for one, who had much the same to say about what kinds of stories and characters are pre-approved by publishing houses and their editors, and the hoops an author must jump through to get work published. It's not as if Correia is saying anything new or surprising, rather that he's running the same gauntlet other libertarian writers have endured before. The difference here is that he seems to be able to use the internet and the connections it provides to expose this kind of thing in a way which was impossible even a few years ago. Good for him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm sorry, but when you are not that good of a writer, blaming the lack of an award on political persecution is lame. If he were bemoaning his own lack of awards or accolades, and ignoring other writers, that would be a point. That's not what I'm taking away from his blog posts. YMMV. "My fans are the wrong kind of fans." He is bemoaning his own fate that his two dimensional pulp did not get an award. Again, that's not what I'm getting. Seriously, you read what he had to say about the people he calls "Social Justice Warriors", and their corrosive influence on publishing, and that doesn't ring true? I've read commentary on this subject from L. Neil Smith, for one, who had much the same to say about what kinds of stories and characters are pre-approved by publishing houses and their editors, and the hoops an author must jump through to get work published. It's not as if Correia is saying anything new or surprising, rather that he's running the same gauntlet other libertarian writers have endured before. The difference here is that he seems to be able to use the internet and the connections it provides to expose this kind of thing in a way which was impossible even a few years ago. Good for him. The fact is, if you read the post, it really is about him. His books, while fun, are not examples of literary genius. Absent the gun stuff, he'd barely get a nod here. |
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So you are saying that Scalzi's novel "Redshirts" is worthy of a Hugo award. HAHAHAHAHA! The stuff that wins awards today is atrocious. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Corriea writes good and stuff, I like his books. Him, Tom Kratman, and Michael Z Williamson are never going to be beloved by the libs, moonbats, and non-governmental organizations. But I'll keep buying their books. And that's the point. The writing is crap, but its crap for gun enthusiasts, so it gets support, but it is not worthy, from a writing standpoint of awards. Ive got several copies of MHI when it was self-published with the olive drab MHI patch on the cover. I bought them because I wanted to support a fellow gun owner, not because I thought they were works of literary genius. So you are saying that Scalzi's novel "Redshirts" is worthy of a Hugo award. HAHAHAHAHA! The stuff that wins awards today is atrocious. Have not read it so honestly cannot comment on it. However, I have read all of LC's stuff and it is 8th grade level pulp. Fun, and I buy them because we should support gun enthusiast authors, but award worthy? No. |
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Quoted: Have not read it so honestly cannot comment on it. However, I have read all of LC's stuff and it is 8th grade level pulp. Fun, and I buy them because we should support gun enthusiast authors, but award worthy? No. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Corriea writes good and stuff, I like his books. Him, Tom Kratman, and Michael Z Williamson are never going to be beloved by the libs, moonbats, and non-governmental organizations. But I'll keep buying their books. And that's the point. The writing is crap, but its crap for gun enthusiasts, so it gets support, but it is not worthy, from a writing standpoint of awards. Ive got several copies of MHI when it was self-published with the olive drab MHI patch on the cover. I bought them because I wanted to support a fellow gun owner, not because I thought they were works of literary genius. So you are saying that Scalzi's novel "Redshirts" is worthy of a Hugo award. HAHAHAHAHA! The stuff that wins awards today is atrocious. Have not read it so honestly cannot comment on it. However, I have read all of LC's stuff and it is 8th grade level pulp. Fun, and I buy them because we should support gun enthusiast authors, but award worthy? No. |
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