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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:32:08 PM EDT
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Your best bet is to just bend over and prepare yourself to get fucked by the long dick of the law.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:41:03 PM EDT
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NO, you can not. Just take your beating like a man, and move on.
Dont bother going to court either, the false report will sink you, and the lawyer fees will be more than the hospital bill. IF you did defend yourself from a psycho abusive cop, beat his ass and get away. I would suggest going to the PD and reporting the incident. So when they do come to arrest you, and they will ...1) it will look better for you in court that you turned yourself in, and 2) they dont have to come to your house and shoot your dog, wife, neighbor |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:46:07 PM EDT
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NO, you can not. Just take your beating like a man, and move on. Dont bother going to court either, the false report will sink you, and the lawyer fees will be more than the hospital bill. IF you did defend yourself from a psycho abusive cop, beat his ass and get away. I would suggest going to the PD and reporting the incident. So when they do come to arrest you, and they will ...1) it will look better for you in court that you turned yourself in, and 2) they dont have to come to your house and shoot your dog, wife, neighbor Bruce Sons, Bakersfield, California |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:51:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:52:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes If you live to tell the tale of the ass whooping you put on a cop.....Maybe. Cops these days are quick to shoot first ( use deadly force ) for about any perceived threat. Quick to shoot first, my ass. Until 1986, police could, and often did legally shoot fleeing suspected felon's with few or no consequences. Garner V. Tenn. put narrow restrictions on the use of deadly force. You are much, much less likely to be shot by police "these days". |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:53:54 PM EDT
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You can...
This is one of those instances of you can beat the charges but you won't beat the ride. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:57:42 PM EDT
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The problem is, by the time it was known that it was justified, it would probably be nothing more than a settlement for the family that was left behind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can in Georgia against unlawful arrest. No, I'm not going to google it for you. The problem is, by the time it was known that it was justified, it would probably be nothing more than a settlement for the family that was left behind. Which is why trying to out-stupid the stupid on the side of the road is a BAD idea. And before you try something really really stupid, you better know the laws of your state. Some states allow resistance under certain circumstances, others under no circumstances. For example in CA. Penal Code Section 834a If a person has knowledge, or by the exercise of reasonable care, should have knowledge, that he is being arrested by a peace officer, it is the duty of such person to refrain from using force or any weapon to resist such arrest. (Added by Stats. 1957, Ch. 2147.) Nothing in there about a bad arrest, an illegal arrest, mistaken identity., etc, so on and so forth. Resisting is not available. Get it taken care of after the fact. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:59:25 PM EDT
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http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/local/x486709645/Bruce-Sons-case-timeline Bruce Sons, Bakersfield, California Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO, you can not. Just take your beating like a man, and move on. Dont bother going to court either, the false report will sink you, and the lawyer fees will be more than the hospital bill. IF you did defend yourself from a psycho abusive cop, beat his ass and get away. I would suggest going to the PD and reporting the incident. So when they do come to arrest you, and they will ...1) it will look better for you in court that you turned yourself in, and 2) they dont have to come to your house and shoot your dog, wife, neighbor http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/local/x486709645/Bruce-Sons-case-timeline Bruce Sons, Bakersfield, California I'm in Bakersfield now. White oakie trash town. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:01:14 PM EDT
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I'm in Bakersfield now. White oakie trash town. Well, make yourself at home! 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:06:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick to shoot first, my ass. Until 1986, police could, and often did legally shoot fleeing suspected felon's with few or no consequences. Garner V. Tenn. put narrow restrictions on the use of deadly force. You are much, much less likely to be shot by police "these days". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes If you live to tell the tale of the ass whooping you put on a cop.....Maybe. Cops these days are quick to shoot first ( use deadly force ) for about any perceived threat. Quick to shoot first, my ass. Until 1986, police could, and often did legally shoot fleeing suspected felon's with few or no consequences. Garner V. Tenn. put narrow restrictions on the use of deadly force. You are much, much less likely to be shot by police "these days".  I talked to an old retired cop (oldest surviving cop from my agency, also a WWII vet) who was a rookie and worked with that particular officer some. He, the retiree, is hard as nails and makes us younger guys and our new ways of policing look like pacifist by comparison and even he looks like a pacifist in comparison to our well known shooter. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:08:53 PM EDT
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I'm in Bakersfield now. White oakie trash town. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO, you can not. Just take your beating like a man, and move on. Dont bother going to court either, the false report will sink you, and the lawyer fees will be more than the hospital bill. IF you did defend yourself from a psycho abusive cop, beat his ass and get away. I would suggest going to the PD and reporting the incident. So when they do come to arrest you, and they will ...1) it will look better for you in court that you turned yourself in, and 2) they dont have to come to your house and shoot your dog, wife, neighbor http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/local/x486709645/Bruce-Sons-case-timeline Bruce Sons, Bakersfield, California I'm in Bakersfield now. White oakie trash town. So a guy from Nevada living in a trailer fits right in. Got it. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:18:54 PM EDT
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With all the LEO abusing their powers in the news lately, at what point can you defend yourself? Like the guy who told the cop 'Fuck you' and the cop pushed him over a car and started beating on him. The guy getting handcuffed for not showing a DL, showed a military ID instead, on his front porch and filming the incident. Im being serious, yes I know its GD, but seriously at what point can you fight back? Or can you? What if the abuse of power was being filmed? Here you can resist an illegal arrest. Best to fight it in court not on the street. Back up officers wont know that your resisting a illegal arrest and are going to help out the officer in need of help. Could be real ugly. Lots of these "LEO abusing their powers are not what the media try to make it. Not that there aren't dirty cops out there, just no where as many as GD likes to pretend there are. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:20:46 PM EDT
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They usually charge you with resisting or assault anyway.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:28:44 PM EDT
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Remember this scene from Braveheart. How well did it go for him?  |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:31:16 PM EDT
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You fight, you lose...
They have a badge and you don't Suck it up, let them do their thing and if they're at fault, sue... For ALOT |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:33:05 PM EDT
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Cameras will continue to get smaller and cheaper. In several years, they will be unnoticeable and ubiquitous. Prepare to see and be seen.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:33:40 PM EDT
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Here you can resist an illegal arrest. Best to fight it in court not on the street. Back up officers wont know that your resisting a illegal arrest and are going to help out the officer in need of help. Could be real ugly. Lots of these "LEO abusing their powers are not what the media try to make it. Not that there aren't dirty cops out there, just no where as many as GD likes to pretend there are. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the LEO abusing their powers in the news lately, at what point can you defend yourself? Like the guy who told the cop 'Fuck you' and the cop pushed him over a car and started beating on him. The guy getting handcuffed for not showing a DL, showed a military ID instead, on his front porch and filming the incident. Im being serious, yes I know its GD, but seriously at what point can you fight back? Or can you? What if the abuse of power was being filmed? Here you can resist an illegal arrest. Best to fight it in court not on the street. Back up officers wont know that your resisting a illegal arrest and are going to help out the officer in need of help. Could be real ugly. Lots of these "LEO abusing their powers are not what the media try to make it. Not that there aren't dirty cops out there, just no where as many as GD likes to pretend there are. This 100%. Assholes in every profession, unfortunately for LEO only the bad ones make headlines. Take the ride and have your day in court. Fighting with the Police will NOT end well in any situation. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:35:40 PM EDT
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Some of your mental masturbations disturb me.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:43:06 PM EDT
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So a guy from Nevada living in a trailer fits right in. Got it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO, you can not. Just take your beating like a man, and move on. Dont bother going to court either, the false report will sink you, and the lawyer fees will be more than the hospital bill. IF you did defend yourself from a psycho abusive cop, beat his ass and get away. I would suggest going to the PD and reporting the incident. So when they do come to arrest you, and they will ...1) it will look better for you in court that you turned yourself in, and 2) they dont have to come to your house and shoot your dog, wife, neighbor http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/local/x486709645/Bruce-Sons-case-timeline Bruce Sons, Bakersfield, California I'm in Bakersfield now. White oakie trash town. So a guy from Nevada living in a trailer fits right in. Got it. I'm not in Oildale. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:45:34 PM EDT
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Cameras will continue to get smaller and cheaper. In several years, they will be unnoticeable and ubiquitous. Prepare to see and be seen. I am totally for cops having them. They shall be tamper proof. The officer shall be audited randomly and periodically. Don't like it find another job. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:48:32 PM EDT
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You can in Georgia against unlawful arrest. No, I'm not going to google it for you. Same in Texas. And I'm not looking it up either. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 10:00:39 PM EDT
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"Can you defend yourself against LE?"
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Posted: 4/24/2014 10:53:39 PM EDT
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I'm not in Oildale. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO, you can not. Just take your beating like a man, and move on. Dont bother going to court either, the false report will sink you, and the lawyer fees will be more than the hospital bill. IF you did defend yourself from a psycho abusive cop, beat his ass and get away. I would suggest going to the PD and reporting the incident. So when they do come to arrest you, and they will ...1) it will look better for you in court that you turned yourself in, and 2) they dont have to come to your house and shoot your dog, wife, neighbor http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/local/x486709645/Bruce-Sons-case-timeline Bruce Sons, Bakersfield, California I'm in Bakersfield now. White oakie trash town. So a guy from Nevada living in a trailer fits right in. Got it. I'm not in Oildale. You in one of the trailer parks off Hwy 58 in Green Acres? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 10:58:38 PM EDT
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Quick to shoot first, my ass. Until 1986, police could, and often did legally shoot fleeing suspected felon's with few or no consequences. Garner V. Tenn. put narrow restrictions on the use of deadly force. You are much, much less likely to be shot by police "these days". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes If you live to tell the tale of the ass whooping you put on a cop.....Maybe. Cops these days are quick to shoot first ( use deadly force ) for about any perceived threat. Quick to shoot first, my ass. Until 1986, police could, and often did legally shoot fleeing suspected felon's with few or no consequences. Garner V. Tenn. put narrow restrictions on the use of deadly force. You are much, much less likely to be shot by police "these days". Facts have no place in GD. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 11:00:59 PM EDT
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You in one of the trailer parks off Hwy 58 in Green Acres? no |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 11:03:49 PM EDT
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As a man who was once unlawfully arrested, I contend that it is much easier, cheaper, and a generally better idea to let the office step on his dick on the scene. Fight it in court, not on the side of the road. Physically disagreeing with a police officer will really never result in a positive outcome.
In my case, I was exceptionally polite through the whole process. Jail sucks, but it would've sucked a lot more with some broken bones, missing teeth, or a bullet hole. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 11:05:02 PM EDT
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I am totally for cops having them. They shall be tamper proof. The officer shall be audited randomly and periodically. Don't like it find another job. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cameras will continue to get smaller and cheaper. In several years, they will be unnoticeable and ubiquitous. Prepare to see and be seen. I am totally for cops having them. They shall be tamper proof. The officer shall be audited randomly and periodically. Don't like it find another job. But no guns. 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 11:07:19 PM EDT
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You go to court after the fact if you believe you've been wronged.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 11:10:08 PM EDT
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And that's a fact that will be ignored by GD. Decades ago, we had an officer with nearly 40 legitimate uses of deadly force in the line of duty. Shit's named after the guy and he was feared and respected by the criminal element. He really would rather shoot you than look at you. I talked to an old retired cop (oldest surviving cop from my agency, also a WWII vet) who was a rookie and worked with that particular officer some. He, the retiree, is hard as nails and makes us younger guys and our new ways of policing look like pacifist by comparison and even he looks like a pacifist in comparison to our well known shooter.
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Yes If you live to tell the tale of the ass whooping you put on a cop.....Maybe. Cops these days are quick to shoot first ( use deadly force ) for about any perceived threat. Quick to shoot first, my ass. Until 1986, police could, and often did legally shoot fleeing suspected felon's with few or no consequences. Garner V. Tenn. put narrow restrictions on the use of deadly force. You are much, much less likely to be shot by police "these days". I talked to an old retired cop (oldest surviving cop from my agency, also a WWII vet) who was a rookie and worked with that particular officer some. He, the retiree, is hard as nails and makes us younger guys and our new ways of policing look like pacifist by comparison and even he looks like a pacifist in comparison to our well known shooter.
Are you afraid to post his name? Are his 40 DF shoots a double probationary secret? Why bother posting all of that if you're not going to finish the story? 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 11:19:17 PM EDT
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I have not read any other posts besides the OP, so am sure it has already been covered but...
Sure you can, you will die, but sure you can. In any situation short of a LEO straight up trying to murder you, it is best to just bend over and let the courts work it out. Hell even if a LEO tries to murder you, there still is no winning. Assuming you survive the initial attempt on your life (unlikely as most people are not going to think "gee, that officer of the law is trying to murder me" until he or she is firing on you) you then need to survive his or hers friends and colleges responding to the incident and not getting summarily executed killed while resisting arrest. Then finally you need to spend tens of millions of dollars to defend your self and still risk ending up with a needle in your arm. It is a nightmare scenario. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 11:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySeriously? I know GD has sunk to new lows as of late, but holding those two worthless human beings up as examples of how to get away with killing cops? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 11:57:42 PM EDT
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Seriously? I know GD has sunk to new lows as of late, but holding those two worthless human beings up as examples of how to get away with killing cops? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Seriously? I know GD has sunk to new lows as of late, but holding those two worthless human beings up as examples of how to get away with killing cops? Depends if the cops really did just come in guns blazing. Looks like they had a warrant. I got to do more reading on these guys. If it happend in 2006 shouldn't there be audio and video recordings in the cop car? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 11:59:24 PM EDT
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technically yes
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Posted: 4/25/2014 12:36:45 AM EDT
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I THINK IN Arizona there was scumbag who broke into a couples house, husband held him at gunpoint while the wife called 911 she gave a full description of the husband explained to the operator that the husband had him at gunpoint and she would meet the cop in front of the house.
Cop shows up at the house she tells the cop her husband has the guy at gunpoint and gives description of her husband and the cop goes into the house see the guy with a gun he take out his gun and shot the husband 6 times husband is yelling at the cop he is the husband and to stop shooting at him, I think the husband got on the phone and told the operator to tell the cop to stop shooting The husband never fired a shot at the cop, The cop dumped 2 mags at the guy i think.At the end the guy is paralyzed for the rest of his life and not one thing happen to the cop he is still a cop today... |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 1:00:48 AM EDT
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<a href="http://s58.photobucket.com/user/deputythrust/media/Owned/keyboard-commando_zps9666c8a4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g255/deputythrust/Owned/keyboard-commando_zps9666c8a4.jpg</a> Took me a minute |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 1:41:11 AM EDT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSfOBPlY2n0 Call of duty cops. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 2:11:24 AM EDT
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You can in Georgia against unlawful arrest. No, I'm not going to google it for you. Same in West Virginia to my knowledge. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 6:30:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just cry like a girl. I only do that during sex.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 6:59:38 AM EDT
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For the love of god hide yo dag first.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:07:59 AM EDT
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In Tennessee, according to state statue, you absolutely can use force, including deadly force, to defend yourself against an unlawful attack by a police officer.
However, as thick as it is, I don't think Title 39 of the TCA stops bullets, so I wouldn't recommend it....
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:18:57 AM EDT
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Here you can resist an illegal arrest. Best to fight it in court not on the street. Back up officers wont know that your resisting a illegal arrest and are going to help out the officer in need of help. Could be real ugly. Lots of these "LEO abusing their powers are not what the media try to make it. Not that there aren't dirty cops out there, just no where as many as GD likes to pretend there are. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the LEO abusing their powers in the news lately, at what point can you defend yourself? Like the guy who told the cop 'Fuck you' and the cop pushed him over a car and started beating on him. The guy getting handcuffed for not showing a DL, showed a military ID instead, on his front porch and filming the incident. Im being serious, yes I know its GD, but seriously at what point can you fight back? Or can you? What if the abuse of power was being filmed? Here you can resist an illegal arrest. Best to fight it in court not on the street. Back up officers wont know that your resisting a illegal arrest and are going to help out the officer in need of help. Could be real ugly. Lots of these "LEO abusing their powers are not what the media try to make it. Not that there aren't dirty cops out there, just no where as many as GD likes to pretend there are. Pretty much this. Never ever seen it in real life. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:20:56 AM EDT
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Cops these days are quick to shoot first........ Cops on my department were far more likely to shoot decades ago than these days. They didn't even have to do a report back then. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:21:41 AM EDT
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Unless the cop is trying to kill you, better to settle it in court. Hopefully the asshole will get fired. Most likely you'll get a check and dickhead will get a promotion.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:24:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:28:53 AM EDT
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You can't. Their bullshit reports alone will sink you. Hope what they do is on video and sue. Hope is not a plan. Run cameras, automatically upload off site if you can. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:42:02 AM EDT
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There is a portion of the use of force and use of deadly force sections in the Texas penal code that allows for use of force/deadly force to protect yourself from LEO. Ill see if I can find it Maybe not the statute he's talking about, but there was a guy that killed a deputy during a no-knock raid a few months back, and it was a good (at least justifiable) shoot. How on earth did he survive that??  I'm guessing he stopped shooting and dropped the gun when he realized they were cops, and the rest of them didn't feel like committing murder. He got charged for the pot though, so he's still kind of fucked. I have to go re read now I thought the rest of the cops ran away when the shooting started |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:44:33 AM EDT
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I THINK IN Arizona there was scumbag who broke into a couples house, husband held him at gunpoint while the wife called 911 she gave a full description of the husband explained to the operator that the husband had him at gunpoint and she would meet the cop in front of the house. Cop shows up at the house she tells the cop her husband has the guy at gunpoint and gives description of her husband and the cop goes into the house see the guy with a gun he take out his gun and shot the husband 6 times husband is yelling at the cop he is the husband and to stop shooting at him, I think the husband got on the phone and told the operator to tell the cop to stop shooting The husband never fired a shot at the cop, The cop dumped 2 mags at the guy i think.At the end the guy is paralyzed for the rest of his life and not one thing happen to the cop he is still a cop today... Meh, isolated incident. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:48:00 AM EDT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSfOBPlY2n0 Call of duty cops. BANG BANG BANG "GET ON THE GROUND" ................................. "justified shooting" This incident is why I had zero pity for the cops shot up by mathew stewart. I think some of them were in the same PD or team. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:48:12 AM EDT
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The GA pastor shooting is a very good example in which one would have been justified morally and legally with successfully defending yourself from a man impersonating an officer.
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Posted: 4/25/2014 7:49:02 AM EDT
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With all the LEO abusing their powers in the news lately, at what point can you defend yourself? Like the guy who told the cop 'Fuck you' and the cop pushed him over a car and started beating on him. The guy getting handcuffed for not showing a DL, showed a military ID instead, on his front porch and filming the incident. Im being serious, yes I know its GD, but seriously at what point can you fight back? Or can you? What if the abuse of power was being filmed? The short answer is no. The long answer is no, not without dying, barring a one in a million chance. It has happened before. It won't happen to you. |
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