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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:59:29 PM EDT
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No name stainless
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:00:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:02:32 PM EDT
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Are Spikes Melonited any good?
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:06:21 PM EDT
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Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective.
Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:17:25 PM EDT
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Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective.
Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg Good deal I've got one off them on the way as we speak to go in my A2 rifle "clone". |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:18:31 PM EDT
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Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective.
Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg Pretty impressive. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:18:38 PM EDT
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Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective.
Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg I for one would rather wreck a standard gas tube than a gas block if I have a choice of failure point... 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:24:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I for one would rather wreck a standard gas tube than a gas block if I have a choice of failure point... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective. Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg I for one would rather wreck a standard gas tube than a gas block if I have a choice of failure point... I also don't see that it really matters in a semi platform. Full auto or burst....sure. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:24:41 PM EDT
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Tactical gas tubes, bro. It's the next big thing.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:26:06 PM EDT
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Tactical gas tubes, bro. It's the next big thing. Thanks for your contribution. Bro.
Back on subject, what is the difference between nitromet and melonite? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:27:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:34:17 PM EDT
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For 7.5"look into a pig tail tube for realiability .
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:35:39 PM EDT
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If it's not cryo-treated and hard-chrome lined, you might as well use a silly straw.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:36:17 PM EDT
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For 7.5"look into a pig tail tube for realiability . 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:40:33 PM EDT
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It's not rocket surgery if you're going to run a 7.5" barrel look into a pig tail gas tube especially if you're going to have a can.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:43:50 PM EDT
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Double tap
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:48:31 PM EDT
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V7 makes one out of inconel, I'd imagine that if you've gotta have the baddest gas tube in the land, that would be the place to go.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:51:29 PM EDT
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Ordered the Spikes.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:59:51 PM EDT
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I'm thinking about hitting my gas tube with some heat resistant black spray paint when I do my barrel swap, just to cut down on the shinyness.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:20:45 PM EDT
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The Mennonite tubes also look better under free float rails with lots of holes.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:22:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Mennonite tubes also look better under free float rails with lots of holes. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:22:56 PM EDT
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Tactical gas tubes, bro. It's the next big thing. Will they help me operate more operationally? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:23:59 PM EDT
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The Mennonite tubes also look better under free float rails with lots of holes.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:24:52 PM EDT
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The M-16 and M-4 have been working just fine with stainless gas tubes since the 1960s. The very early rifles even had plain steel gas tubes.
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The Mennonite tubes also look better under free float rails with lots of holes.
Amish gas tubes? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:26:27 PM EDT
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I like the melonited gas tubes for just the sole purpose that they're lower observable than the normal ones. But other than that, no advantage between either.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:27:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Mennonite tubes also look better under free float rails with lots of holes. http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~brads22a/classweb/image/sing.jpg Pretty sure front row, 2nd from the right is in the Red Hot Chili Peppers. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:28:33 PM EDT
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I like the melonited gas tubes for just the sole purpose that they're lower observable than the normal ones. But other than that, no advantage between either. I chose the Spikes melonite because it's black mostly. There was a painted stainless, but the finish looked better on the melonite and it was less than $6 more. What the hell, why not? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:43:09 PM EDT
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Pretty sure front row, 2nd from the right is in the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Mennonite tubes also look better under free float rails with lots of holes.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~brads22a/classweb/image/sing.jpg Pretty sure front row, 2nd from the right is in the Red Hot Chili Peppers. And the third from the left is a man. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:48:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I for one would rather wreck a standard gas tube than a gas block if I have a choice of failure point... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective. Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg I for one would rather wreck a standard gas tube than a gas block if I have a choice of failure point... Shit yeah. Can you say "sheer pin"? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:53:47 PM EDT
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I did a 100rd beta dump on a buddies post sample with one of my uppers. Awhile later I had some corrosion issues with the gas tube. Now I prefer melonited gas tubes - just in case I feel like performing a beta dump on full auto
 It will never make a difference unless your shooting full auto rates for multiple magazines. If you really want to go all out you can buy an inconel tube from V7. I'd love to see one of those ran until it fails. FWIW I've got two pistol gas uppers and I just use a standard pistol gas tube. I wouldn't spend the money on a pigtail tube unless it already had issues and I thought it might help.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:55:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, I agree. I also don't see that it really matters in a semi platform. Full auto or burst....sure. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective. Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg I for one would rather wreck a standard gas tube than a gas block if I have a choice of failure point... I also don't see that it really matters in a semi platform. Full auto or burst....sure. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:05:32 PM EDT
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tubes are like 7 dollars, are you really that worried about shooting corrosive ammo through your 7 dollar investment? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:06:52 PM EDT
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I'm thinking about hitting my gas tube with some heat resistant black spray paint when I do my barrel swap, just to cut down on the shinyness. I do this quite a bit. Sand the tube, degrease, then spray. I mask off the end that goes in the gas block. People here will make fun of you, though, cause "shiny gas tubes been werkin since the 60's". |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:08:47 PM EDT
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I for one would rather wreck a standard gas tube than a gas block if I have a choice of failure point... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective.
Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg I for one would rather wreck a standard gas tube than a gas block if I have a choice of failure point... |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:10:40 PM EDT
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No difference 99% of the time. I've shot a decent bit of F/A without any issues. No clue who made my gas tubes. For a semi? You aren't going to hurt it no matter what you're using.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:11:30 PM EDT
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I don't think the gas tube is making the gas block fail sooner, only lasting so much longer that the gas block is the first to go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective.
Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg I for one would rather wreck a standard gas tube than a gas block if I have a choice of failure point... That's his point. He'd rather have the fail point (the point with less resistance to heat) be the cheap and easy-to-replace gas tube than the gas block. And I agree. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:13:37 PM EDT
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The Mennonite tubes also look better under free float rails with lots of holes.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~brads22a/classweb/image/sing.jpg 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:18:05 PM EDT
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I have not seen a big difference in the whole bunch .
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:19:48 PM EDT
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For 7.5"look into a pig tail tube for realiability . 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:20:22 PM EDT
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That's his point. He'd rather have the fail point (the point with less resistance to heat) be the cheap and easy-to-replace gas tube than the gas block. And I agree. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:I don't think the gas tube is making the gas block fail sooner, only lasting so much longer that the gas block is the first to go.
That's his point. He'd rather have the fail point (the point with less resistance to heat) be the cheap and easy-to-replace gas tube than the gas block. And I agree. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:31:02 PM EDT
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don't make me come in there and grammar nazi the thread title.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:31:06 PM EDT
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I do this quite a bit. Sand the tube, degrease, then spray. I mask off the end that goes in the gas block. People here will make fun of you, though, cause "shiny gas tubes been werkin since the 60's". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm thinking about hitting my gas tube with some heat resistant black spray paint when I do my barrel swap, just to cut down on the shinyness. I do this quite a bit. Sand the tube, degrease, then spray. I mask off the end that goes in the gas block. People here will make fun of you, though, cause "shiny gas tubes been werkin since the 60's". I just got a new one that came black... |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:43:52 PM EDT
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I just got a new one that came black... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm thinking about hitting my gas tube with some heat resistant black spray paint when I do my barrel swap, just to cut down on the shinyness. I do this quite a bit. Sand the tube, degrease, then spray. I mask off the end that goes in the gas block. People here will make fun of you, though, cause "shiny gas tubes been werkin since the 60's". I just got a new one that came black... That's what she said. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:54:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are Spikes Melonited any good? Yes. Excellent. Not all are created equal. Melonite > Untreated Stainless. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/218226_Where_are_all_the_melonite_gas_tubes_.html From Tom: They withstand heat a lot better than an un-treated gas tube. We stopped melting gas tubes and began breaking gas blocks in half instead. They also do a better job fighting Corossion. And they are non-reflective. Also standard gas tubes are 304 stainless, same with the Melonite ones. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/140.jpg |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:24:22 PM EDT
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Parts are not Parts. You get what you pay for
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Posted: 4/24/2014 10:00:36 PM EDT
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That makes no sense. Why would you want your rifle to fail sooner? Unless of course you're out there in the field with everything you need to change out a failed gas tube. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's his point. He'd rather have the fail point (the point with less resistance to heat) be the cheap and easy-to-replace gas tube than the gas block. And I agree. There's are videos out there of torture tests, the guns usually go through 600-1000 rounds on full auto without a chance to cool for several minutes before the gas tube melts and the auto reciprocating feature is disabled. You have to really try and make the gas tube melt, so they're saying if they're going to be torturing their rifle like that, they'd rather have the $7 part fail a few seconds before the gas block cracks open, which is a more difficult fix (pins might get jammed if the thing wrenches open or expands itself to death) and a harder part to find. Someone using an m-16/m4 to the extent it would require to fail in this manner in the field, would be in a huge amount of trouble, so for that guy, maybe invest in a melonite tube. For everyone else, it's just mall ninja style |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 10:01:05 PM EDT
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No name stainless |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 6:55:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's are videos out there of torture tests, the guns usually go through 600-1000 rounds on full auto without a chance to cool for several minutes before the gas tube melts and the auto reciprocating feature is disabled. You have to really try and make the gas tube melt, so they're saying if they're going to be torturing their rifle like that, they'd rather have the $7 part fail a few seconds before the gas block cracks open, which is a more difficult fix (pins might get jammed if the thing wrenches open or expands itself to death) and a harder part to find. Someone using an m-16/m4 to the extent it would require to fail in this manner in the field, would be in a huge amount of trouble, so for that guy, maybe invest in a melonite tube. For everyone else, it's just mall ninja style Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:I don't think the gas tube is making the gas block fail sooner, only lasting so much longer that the gas block is the first to go. That's his point. He'd rather have the fail point (the point with less resistance to heat) be the cheap and easy-to-replace gas tube than the gas block. And I agree. There's are videos out there of torture tests, the guns usually go through 600-1000 rounds on full auto without a chance to cool for several minutes before the gas tube melts and the auto reciprocating feature is disabled. You have to really try and make the gas tube melt, so they're saying if they're going to be torturing their rifle like that, they'd rather have the $7 part fail a few seconds before the gas block cracks open, which is a more difficult fix (pins might get jammed if the thing wrenches open or expands itself to death) and a harder part to find. Someone using an m-16/m4 to the extent it would require to fail in this manner in the field, would be in a huge amount of trouble, so for that guy, maybe invest in a melonite tube. For everyone else, it's just mall ninja style |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 6:58:47 AM EDT
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The Mennonite tubes also look better under free float rails with lots of holes.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~brads22a/classweb/image/sing.jpg 
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