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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:33:48 PM EDT
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An optimist would say: " Hey, that's 200,000 more potential opportunities to exercise your CCW rights"
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:51:29 PM EDT
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I have an idea for the prison system.......But it would violate COC and I don't want to get banned.......
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:52:50 PM EDT
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Honestly if the GOP gets the Senate I believe it's possible I mean for fucks sake Clinton got impeached for lying about a blow job. And what good did that do? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:57:27 PM EDT
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Obungo was elected. He is a symptom of the rot in this country, not the cause. If the electorate had any hope what-so-ever.........the shit-bag-Kenyan would never even had a chance. Think about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly if the GOP gets the Senate I believe it's possible I mean for fucks sake Clinton got impeached for lying about a blow job. Obungo was elected. He is a symptom of the rot in this country, not the cause. If the electorate had any hope what-so-ever.........the shit-bag-Kenyan would never even had a chance. Think about it. Sure he was. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:00:19 PM EDT
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Yes, it is finally happening. Time to stockpile ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yes, it is finally happening. Time to stockpile ammo. You're just now stockpiling ammo? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:01:09 PM EDT
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That's at least 200,000 more votes in their favor for the 2014 fall elections.
The Impeachment- good luck with that. THere's a SCOTUS talking about revolution though.... |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:01:53 PM EDT
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I hate being the guy who actually AGREES with POTUS and Holder, but keeping all these non-violent, low level drug offenders in jail is just plain stupid, an affront to liberty, and costing the taxpayer billions. Understand, a lot of these folks are in prison on mandatory minimum sentences, which ARF hates. A lot of these folks are serving sentences that are LONGER than if they were convicted of the same crime today. A lot of these folks are in prison on non-violent, white collar felonies, that shouldn't be felonies at all. May not be nice to agree with, but it is true. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:05:57 PM EDT
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What about the LEO, dumb drunk 18, crazy girlfriends that got caught in The Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban often called "the Lautenberg Amendment. I know several guys who where at the wrong place, wrong time and LEO was" somebody has to go to jail, not knowing pleaded NOLO, and 2-10 years later no guns. Most of them have not been arrested. had a ticket in 20 years since.
But know offenders, repeat offenders get out and can get rights restored after 5-10 years. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:14:21 PM EDT
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I hate being the guy who actually AGREES with POTUS and Holder, but keeping all these non-violent, low level drug offenders in jail is just plain stupid, an affront to liberty, and costing the taxpayer billions. Understand, a lot of these folks are in prison on mandatory minimum sentences, which ARF hates. A lot of these folks are serving sentences that are LONGER than if they were convicted of the same crime today. A lot of these folks are in prison on non-violent, white collar felonies, that shouldn't be felonies at all. Most if not all drug laws are probably unconstitutional, are certainly anti-freedom, and should be ignored. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:29:07 PM EDT
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I hate being the guy who actually AGREES with POTUS and Holder, but keeping all these non-violent, low level drug offenders in jail is just plain stupid, an affront to liberty, and costing the taxpayer billions. Understand, a lot of these folks are in prison on mandatory minimum sentences, which ARF hates. A lot of these folks are serving sentences that are LONGER than if they were convicted of the same crime today. A lot of these folks are in prison on non-violent, white collar felonies, that shouldn't be felonies at all. Do you ever wonder why violent crime is at historic lows? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:45:02 PM EDT
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Do you ever wonder why violent crime is at historic lows? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate being the guy who actually AGREES with POTUS and Holder, but keeping all these non-violent, low level drug offenders in jail is just plain stupid, an affront to liberty, and costing the taxpayer billions. Understand, a lot of these folks are in prison on mandatory minimum sentences, which ARF hates. A lot of these folks are serving sentences that are LONGER than if they were convicted of the same crime today. A lot of these folks are in prison on non-violent, white collar felonies, that shouldn't be felonies at all. Do you ever wonder why violent crime is at historic lows? the same reason unemployment and inflation rates are artificially low |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:56:49 PM EDT
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the same reason unemployment and inflation rates are artificially low Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate being the guy who actually AGREES with POTUS and Holder, but keeping all these non-violent, low level drug offenders in jail is just plain stupid, an affront to liberty, and costing the taxpayer billions. Understand, a lot of these folks are in prison on mandatory minimum sentences, which ARF hates. A lot of these folks are serving sentences that are LONGER than if they were convicted of the same crime today. A lot of these folks are in prison on non-violent, white collar felonies, that shouldn't be felonies at all. Do you ever wonder why violent crime is at historic lows? the same reason unemployment and inflation rates are artificially low It's a very naive narrative often repeated here. I am actually for more decriminalization of drug use, but it is true that crime rates are at historic lows because so many criminals are in prison. It's only a matter of time that crime rates begin to rise again with all the sentencing reform trends and release programs. I rarely see people sent to prison anymore for any appreciable time....and I am referring to real crimes here, not casual drug use.....probation probation probation probation all day long even though they have past probation cases that were repeatedly revoked and rap sheets inches thick. Get ready for the 60's and 70's all over again. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:14:53 PM EDT
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Someone explain to me how the could release 200,000 people convicted of federal drug charges. In 2008, that number would have exceeded the total federal inmate population nationwide.
Since they are only talking about releasing inmates sentenced under very narrow criteria of federal drug sentencing guidelines it would only be a fraction of the federal inmate population. It would not pertain to the vast majority of state prison inmates who are usually sentenced under state laws. State prisons house mostly state prisoners. As of April 17, 2014 the Federal Bureau of Prisons had 173,726 federal inmates in BOP Custody. Oops! How does that work? 28,851 federal inmates were in privately managed facilities. 13,688 federal inmates were in other types of facilities (such as halfway houses). 216,265 Total Federal Inmates Last Updated April 17, 2014. Yeah right. They are really going to release 200,000 inmates sentenced under federal drug sentencing. They would have to empty all federal prisons. Only 98,538 are even locked up for drug offenses. http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp Someone should have checked before going to air. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:21:33 PM EDT
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Honestly if the GOP gets the Senate I believe it's possible I mean for fucks sake Clinton got impeached for lying about a blow job. Senate convicts....house does the impeachment. They are not one and the same. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:25:35 PM EDT
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Someone explain to me how the could release 200,000 people convicted of federal drug charges. In 2008, that number would have exceeded the total federal inmate population nationwide. Since they are only talking about releasing inmates sentenced under very narrow criteria of federal drug sentencing guidelines it would only be a fraction of the federal inmate population. It would not pertain to the vast majority of state prison inmates who are usually sentenced under state laws. State prisons house mostly state prisoners. As of April 17, 2014 the Federal Bureau of Prisons had 173,726 federal inmates in BOP Custody. Oops! How does that work? 28,851 federal inmates were in privately managed facilities. 13,688 federal inmates were in other types of facilities (such as halfway houses). 216,265 Total Federal Inmates Last Updated April 17, 2014. Yeah right. They are really going to release 200,000 inmates sentenced under federal drug sentencing. They would have to empty all federal prisons. Only 98,538 are even locked up for drug offenses. http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp Someone should have checked before going to air. The number sounds off to me. Federal no longer has parole either IIRC so are these people going to be supervised somehow or simply released and done? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:29:05 PM EDT
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After working in Corrections for over 22 years it's as obvious that federal mandatory minimums are a total joke and a waste of fucking money. It would stager the mind if most common folk realized that a good percentage of these people to be released never murdered or raped anyone but were considered dealers by the feds based on the quantity they were caught with.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:31:16 PM EDT
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If the House grows some balls and decides to impeach them, AND the GOP gets the Senate, then yes. It's likely those two pricks would be out on their asses. Probably not thrown in Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass prison like they deserve, but booted out.
Will this come to pass? Not. Fucking. Likely. 
But one can hope. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:40:28 PM EDT
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I was wondering after he is done with his term as president, how many pardons there would be compared to other presidents.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:46:13 PM EDT
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I was wondering after he is done with his term as president, how many pardons there would be compared to other presidents. I am curious who he pardons as well. It is going to be ugly me thinks. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:46:48 PM EDT
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I was wondering after he is done with his term as president, how many pardons there would be compared to other presidents. I suspect the pardons will flow. I just have this idea that they will be approving them and holding them back for an entire year with all being dumped on the final hours in office. Plus, blanket amnesty for all illegals followed by a mad rush to the border from Mexico because how will they prove new illegals weren't already here? Could cause chaos. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:57:13 PM EDT
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The party's on, they're in the home stretch to the end of two terms. This admin has shown that they'll willing to try many different ways to further the agenda.
If you think what they're doing is bad now, just wait towards the end. I'd wager the last year or so is going to be a barrage. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 10:41:46 PM EDT
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America is rapidly turning into a rancid, 3rd-world, communist cesspool. If you think voting our way out of this catastrophe is still an option you're about 100 years too late.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:25:10 PM EDT
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On top of all this Holder is pushing to allow felons the right to vote.
Let'em out, let'em vote. Who do you think they'll vote for? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:28:19 PM EDT
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Fidel Castro, a hard left socialist / communist, also emptied the jails on America, just saying ......
Tony Montana? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:29:43 PM EDT
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This is my thought as well some one needs votes for mid terms Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's 200,000 Democratic voters! ..er, ah... I mean 500,000 voters since photo ID is not needed to vote! This is my thought as well some one needs votes for mid terms |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:31:45 PM EDT
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Just reported on Fox news. How the hell can this guy release 200,000 prisoners onto the streets of America after they were convicted by a jury of their peers. It would apply to prisoners that have served 10 years for various drug crimes. Unless they were violent, why are they in jail? If you want to do drugs who cares? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 12:03:03 AM EDT
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Has anyone pointed out that technically, I believe, Obama could turn every prisoner in the country free and it would be perfectly constitutional.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:52:16 AM EDT
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I hate being the guy who actually AGREES with POTUS and Holder, but keeping all these non-violent, low level drug offenders in jail is just plain stupid, an affront to liberty, and costing the taxpayer billions. Understand, a lot of these folks are in prison on mandatory minimum sentences, which ARF hates. A lot of these folks are serving sentences that are LONGER than if they were convicted of the same crime today. A lot of these folks are in prison on non-violent, white collar felonies, that shouldn't be felonies at all. Agree to a point but this is total lawlessness by the administration. This is something that should be done through congress. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:07:15 AM EDT
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oh look, another demtard troll thread variation of "I'm a 20 year old college student" to convince people that they shouldn't "waste" their vote on Republicans.
It's about 200 not 200k that fall between the old sentencing guideline of 72 months and the new guideline 60 months. Republicans Unite to Soften Sentencing Laws In Congress, a growing chorus of GOP lawmakers charge the administration with creating federal policy via memo, blowing statutory deadlines and even showing a willingness to ignore laws entirely.
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) a member of the Judiciary Committee and former federal prosecutor, said the administration has gone well beyond the traditional limits of prosecutorial discretion afforded to the Justice Department. “That’s not prosecutorial discretion,” Gowdy told The Hill. “That’s anarchy.” http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/court-battles/203388-is-obama-enforcing-the-law |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:09:46 AM EDT
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Agree to a point but this is total lawlessness by the administration. This is something that should be done through congress. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate being the guy who actually AGREES with POTUS and Holder, but keeping all these non-violent, low level drug offenders in jail is just plain stupid, an affront to liberty, and costing the taxpayer billions. Understand, a lot of these folks are in prison on mandatory minimum sentences, which ARF hates. A lot of these folks are serving sentences that are LONGER than if they were convicted of the same crime today. A lot of these folks are in prison on non-violent, white collar felonies, that shouldn't be felonies at all. Agree to a point but this is total lawlessness by the administration. This is something that should be done through congress. The power to pardon is spelled out in the Constitution. It is actually one of the least limited Presidential powers. Article II, Section 2, Clause 1. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:13:58 AM EDT
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Sentenced to $3 million bucks a speech for life.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly if the GOP gets the Senate I believe it's possible I mean for fucks sake Clinton got impeached for lying about a blow job. Sentenced to $3 million bucks a speech for life. "Imagine. Being so famous that someone can suck your dick and instantly be famous also. Hey blow me there is a big future in it for you. Ahh, now go write a book or something. " - Chapelle |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:16:09 AM EDT
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This current Administration would rather have me rot in jail for my beliefs than almost any criminal in jail IMHO.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:18:48 AM EDT
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Let me know how your impeachment drive works out. Yep, give me a ring when there's traction. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:20:15 AM EDT
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Obungo was elected. He is a symptom of the rot in this country, not the cause. If the electorate had any hope what-so-ever.........the shit-bag-Kenyan would never even had a chance. Think about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly if the GOP gets the Senate I believe it's possible I mean for fucks sake Clinton got impeached for lying about a blow job. Obungo was elected. He is a symptom of the rot in this country, not the cause. If the electorate had any hope what-so-ever.........the shit-bag-Kenyan would never even had a chance. Think about it. Soon as Obama, a self described Marxist running on a platform of fundamentally transforming the USA, actually got elected, the countdown timer until the second revolution and/or civil war started. Within the next 200 years to be sure. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:26:12 AM EDT
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I have no doubt that Holder really does hope they go out and kill/rape/rob some white people. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:32:03 AM EDT
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... seriously, why can't 0bama be impeached now? Because you can't impeach a King. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:36:21 AM EDT
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Tony Montana? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fidel Castro, a hard left socialist / communist, also emptied the jails on America, just saying ......
Tony Montana? I told you to tell um you was in a sanitarium, not a sanitation. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:46:17 AM EDT
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Three years too late on this one...
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:48:51 AM EDT
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Part of the "fundamental transformation" to a third-world shit hole. All part of the plan. TXL |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:07:49 AM EDT
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Because you can't impeach a King. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... seriously, why can't 0bama be impeached now? Because you can't impeach a King. RACISTS!!! BIGOTS!!! KOCHTOPOLOUS!!!! Wouldn't matter if the Speaker of the House was lukewarm fiscal conservative moderate Republican Ron Paul or RINO radical centrist Gary Johnson who almost doubled BIG .GOV spending in NM. 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:26:19 AM EDT
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On top of all this Holder is pushing to allow felons the right to vote. Let'em out, let'em vote. Who do you think they'll vote for? Did you know that felons are alowed to vote in many states? Been that way for very long time. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:37:18 AM EDT
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The power to pardon is spelled out in the Constitution. It is actually one of the least limited Presidential powers. Article II, Section 2, Clause 1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate being the guy who actually AGREES with POTUS and Holder, but keeping all these non-violent, low level drug offenders in jail is just plain stupid, an affront to liberty, and costing the taxpayer billions. Understand, a lot of these folks are in prison on mandatory minimum sentences, which ARF hates. A lot of these folks are serving sentences that are LONGER than if they were convicted of the same crime today. A lot of these folks are in prison on non-violent, white collar felonies, that shouldn't be felonies at all. Agree to a point but this is total lawlessness by the administration. This is something that should be done through congress. The power to pardon is spelled out in the Constitution. It is actually one of the least limited Presidential powers. Article II, Section 2, Clause 1. It's weird. I guess GD's hard-on for impeachment has finally reached the point where they're willing to impeach a President for exercising a power explicitly given in the Constitution. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:39:51 AM EDT
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............. It's weird. I guess GD's hard-on for impeachment has finally reached the point where they're willing to impeach a President for exercising a power explicitly given in the Constitution. Well pardons have been used on an individual basis rather than on a whole category of people.............but I do admit some of those drug sentences were probably too draconian. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:47:11 AM EDT
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Well pardons have been used on an individual basis rather than on a whole category of people.............but I do admit some of those drug sentences were probably too draconian. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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............. It's weird. I guess GD's hard-on for impeachment has finally reached the point where they're willing to impeach a President for exercising a power explicitly given in the Constitution. Well pardons have been used on an individual basis rather than on a whole category of people.............but I do admit some of those drug sentences were probably too draconian. Doesn't matter. Rabble rabble rabble. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:49:24 AM EDT
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Doesn't matter. Rabble rabble rabble. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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............. It's weird. I guess GD's hard-on for impeachment has finally reached the point where they're willing to impeach a President for exercising a power explicitly given in the Constitution. Well pardons have been used on an individual basis rather than on a whole category of people.............but I do admit some of those drug sentences were probably too draconian. Doesn't matter. Rabble rabble rabble. Maybe Obama and Holder will require them to work at voting precincts during elections? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:50:23 AM EDT
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Well pardons have been used on an individual basis rather than on a whole category of people.............but I do admit some of those drug sentences were probably too draconian. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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............. It's weird. I guess GD's hard-on for impeachment has finally reached the point where they're willing to impeach a President for exercising a power explicitly given in the Constitution. Well pardons have been used on an individual basis rather than on a whole category of people.............but I do admit some of those drug sentences were probably too draconian. Generally, yeah. But Washington granted amnesty to participants in the Whiskey Rebellion, Lincoln and Johnson to a whole mess of Confederates, Ford and Carter to draft dodgers. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:51:16 AM EDT
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Has anyone pointed out that technically, I believe, Obama could turn every prisoner in the country free and it would be perfectly constitutional. They aren't in prison for using drugs. They are in prison for smuggling and selling drugs. But I don't really care if someone personally wants to use drugs. It should be legal to use, grow and sell weed. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:55:58 AM EDT
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Generally, yeah. But Washington granted amnesty to participants in the Whiskey Rebellion, Lincoln and Johnson to a whole mess of Confederates, Ford and Carter to draft dodgers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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............. It's weird. I guess GD's hard-on for impeachment has finally reached the point where they're willing to impeach a President for exercising a power explicitly given in the Constitution. Well pardons have been used on an individual basis rather than on a whole category of people.............but I do admit some of those drug sentences were probably too draconian. Generally, yeah. But Washington granted amnesty to participants in the Whiskey Rebellion, Lincoln and Johnson to a whole mess of Confederates, Ford and Carter to draft dodgers. Good point. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:57:22 AM EDT
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No recourse thru agency or venue for the respect of lawful conduct?
I wonder what everyone had better become....??? Duke boys? Whiskey Rebellion? Frozen, starving, and angry? Got a row boat? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:58:31 AM EDT
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An optimist would say: " Hey, that's 200,000 more potential opportunities to exercise your CCW rights" Where is my like button |
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