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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:40:07 AM EDT
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You guys everywhere else don't understand how bad it is here . . . my street runeth over with liberal tears. Going to need a boat.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:41:25 AM EDT
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Good Deal!
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:45:05 AM EDT
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Are churches opt-in or opt-out? I'm also curious how the airport bit works out with Hartsfield. They were supposed to let us carry while there already, but have stated that they would violate the law and arrest us.  It's up to each individual church if they allow carry. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:46:26 AM EDT
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It's up to each individual church if they allow carry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are churches opt-in or opt-out? I'm also curious how the airport bit works out with Hartsfield. They were supposed to let us carry while there already, but have stated that they would violate the law and arrest us. It's up to each individual church if they allow carry. Right, but as a carrier, is the default legal assumption that they permit it or that they don't? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:05:42 PM EDT
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Check out how NBC "News" presents the story:
What Georgia's 'Extreme' New Gun Law Allows Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons. Critics have called the law “extreme,” while the National Rifle Association lauded it as an “historic victory for the Second Amendment. What does the Safe Carry Protection Act really do? Here’s a brief list of the major changes ahead for Georgians when the law takes effect July 1: link Good for you Georgia! We have had "bar carry" here in OH for a while and all of the same liberal, emotional, sky is falling BS was said before hand. Blood in the streets, etc. Nothing like that has happened. God forbid someone is able to stand up and protect themselves without a .gov based solution. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:05:45 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, in Connecticut, we have a "pro gun" gubernatorial candidate who wants to make us "assault weapons" owners take additional safety courses and qualify to keep our weapons.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:07:32 PM EDT
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Good for Georgia! 
Guns in Church! Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. Ellijay, Georgia (CNN) -- Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a wide-ranging gun bill into law Wednesday that has critics howling and proponents applauding. House Bill 60, or the Safe Carry Protection Act of 2014 -- which opponents have nicknamed the "guns everywhere bill" -- specifies where Georgia residents can carry weapons. Included are provisions that allow residents who have concealed carry permits to take guns into some bars, churches, school zones, government buildings and certain parts of airports. GeorgiaCarry, which lobbied for the bill, calls it "meaningful pro-gun legislation," despite it being watered down from the group's perspective. Still, the group has lauded the legislation, which will go into effect July 1. Americans for Responsible Solutions opposed the bill, calling it "extremism in action." http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/23/us/georgia-governor-signs-gun-bill/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:08:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bloomberg...kiss my ass!!! +1 |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:08:02 PM EDT
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Right, but as a carrier, is the default legal assumption that they permit it or that they don't? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are churches opt-in or opt-out? I'm also curious how the airport bit works out with Hartsfield. They were supposed to let us carry while there already, but have stated that they would violate the law and arrest us. It's up to each individual church if they allow carry. Right, but as a carrier, is the default legal assumption that they permit it or that they don't? I'm not sure that assumption can be made. An organization like the UMC may very well tell all of its churches in GA to ban carry. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:08:27 PM EDT
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I am once again proud of my home state. Way to go GCO.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:08:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good job you redneck Georgians. Hopefully this means reciprocity with South Carolina is right around the corner. Honestly, that's something which should have been squared away in both states years ago. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:09:52 PM EDT
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Honestly, that's something which should have been squared away in both states years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good job you redneck Georgians.
Hopefully this means reciprocity with South Carolina is right around the corner. Honestly, that's something which should have been squared away in both states years ago. +1000 SC has it's head up it's ass in regards to things like that. I believe GCO is actively seeking to sue SC to allow carry. Many members have met all of the qualifications of getting a SC permit other than owning property there then applied for a permit as grounds. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:10:07 PM EDT
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Honestly, that's something which should have been squared away in both states years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good job you redneck Georgians.
Hopefully this means reciprocity with South Carolina is right around the corner. Honestly, that's something which should have been squared away in both states years ago. Talking to an SC transplant at work, it's SC's fault. They have training requirements for their permit, we don't and they don't want to reciprocate with a state with laxer requirements.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:10:27 PM EDT
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Check out how NBC "News" presents the story: What Georgia's 'Extreme' New Gun Law Allows Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons. Critics have called the law “extreme,” while the National Rifle Association lauded it as an “historic victory for the Second Amendment. What does the Safe Carry Protection Act really do? Here’s a brief list of the major changes ahead for Georgians when the law takes effect July 1: link Good for you Georgia! We have had "bar carry" here in OH for a while and all of the same liberal, emotional, sky is falling BS was said before hand. Blood in the streets, etc. Nothing like that has happened. God forbid someone is able to stand up and protect themselves without a .gov based solution. Wow, it eliminates fingerprinting for the GWL creates a renewal system that doesn't require fingerprinting when renewing. I didn't realize that. Nice! |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:11:54 PM EDT
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Talking to an SC transplant at work, it's SC's fault. They have training requirements for their permit, we don't and they don't want to reciprocate with a state with laxer requirements. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good job you redneck Georgians.
Hopefully this means reciprocity with South Carolina is right around the corner. Honestly, that's something which should have been squared away in both states years ago. Talking to an SC transplant at work, it's SC's fault. They have training requirements for their permit, we don't and they don't want to reciprocate with a state with laxer requirements. And don't accept non-resident permits. You also can't get a SC permit without owning property there. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:12:24 PM EDT
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Wow, it eliminates fingerprinting for the GWL. I didn't realize that. Nice! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Check out how NBC "News" presents the story: What Georgia's 'Extreme' New Gun Law Allows Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons. Critics have called the law “extreme,” while the National Rifle Association lauded it as an “historic victory for the Second Amendment. What does the Safe Carry Protection Act really do? Here’s a brief list of the major changes ahead for Georgians when the law takes effect July 1: link Good for you Georgia! We have had "bar carry" here in OH for a while and all of the same liberal, emotional, sky is falling BS was said before hand. Blood in the streets, etc. Nothing like that has happened. God forbid someone is able to stand up and protect themselves without a .gov based solution. Wow, it eliminates fingerprinting for the GWL. I didn't realize that. Nice! Maaaan. I literally got my GWl renewed in February and had to be fingerprinted. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:12:24 PM EDT
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Wow, it eliminates fingerprinting for the GWL. I didn't realize that. Nice! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Check out how NBC "News" presents the story: What Georgia's 'Extreme' New Gun Law Allows Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons. Critics have called the law “extreme,” while the National Rifle Association lauded it as an “historic victory for the Second Amendment. What does the Safe Carry Protection Act really do? Here’s a brief list of the major changes ahead for Georgians when the law takes effect July 1: link Good for you Georgia! We have had "bar carry" here in OH for a while and all of the same liberal, emotional, sky is falling BS was said before hand. Blood in the streets, etc. Nothing like that has happened. God forbid someone is able to stand up and protect themselves without a .gov based solution. Wow, it eliminates fingerprinting for the GWL. I didn't realize that. Nice! I believe that's only for renewals. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:13:13 PM EDT
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I believe that's only for renewals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Check out how NBC "News" presents the story: What Georgia's 'Extreme' New Gun Law Allows Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons. Critics have called the law “extreme,” while the National Rifle Association lauded it as an “historic victory for the Second Amendment. What does the Safe Carry Protection Act really do? Here’s a brief list of the major changes ahead for Georgians when the law takes effect July 1: link Good for you Georgia! We have had "bar carry" here in OH for a while and all of the same liberal, emotional, sky is falling BS was said before hand. Blood in the streets, etc. Nothing like that has happened. God forbid someone is able to stand up and protect themselves without a .gov based solution. Wow, it eliminates fingerprinting for the GWL. I didn't realize that. Nice! I believe that's only for renewals. Renewals don't exist, or at least they didn't pre-this law. Every "renewal" was a new application. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:19:55 PM EDT
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What I like: Suppressors are allowed now for hunting (subject to certain restrictions by the game wardens), and local school boards can choose whether to let school staff carry or not. It's of local import, it SHOULD be a local choice.
What I don't like: We still don't have campus carry. But it's a damn fine step in the right direction. Well done, GCO! |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:20:06 PM EDT
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Good for Georgia!
Guns in Church! Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. Ellijay, Georgia (CNN) -- Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a wide-ranging gun bill into law Wednesday that has critics howling and proponents applauding. House Bill 60, or the Safe Carry Protection Act of 2014 -- which opponents have nicknamed the "guns everywhere bill" -- specifies where Georgia residents can carry weapons. Included are provisions that allow residents who have concealed carry permits to take guns into some bars, churches, school zones, government buildings and certain parts of airports. GeorgiaCarry, which lobbied for the bill, calls it "meaningful pro-gun legislation," despite it being watered down from the group's perspective. Still, the group has lauded the legislation, which will go into effect July 1. Americans for Responsible Solutions opposed the bill, calling it "extremism in action." http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/23/us/georgia-governor-signs-gun-bill/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 We are all going to die, I have been assured! |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:21:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: +1000 SC has it's head up it's ass in regards to things like that. I believe GCO is actively seeking to sue SC to allow carry. Many members have met all of the qualifications of getting a SC permit other than owning property there then applied for a permit as grounds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good job you redneck Georgians. Hopefully this means reciprocity with South Carolina is right around the corner. Honestly, that's something which should have been squared away in both states years ago. +1000 SC has it's head up it's ass in regards to things like that. I believe GCO is actively seeking to sue SC to allow carry. Many members have met all of the qualifications of getting a SC permit other than owning property there then applied for a permit as grounds. Sherriff's deputy I have known for years got pulled over in full uniform in squad car crossing the border into SC transporting a prisoner with a SC warrant. SC officers made them disarm and put their pistols in the trunk  I try as hard as I can to stay out of South Carolina
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:22:36 PM EDT
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Sherriff's deputy I have known for years got pulled over in full uniform in squad car crossing the border into SC transporting a prisoner with a SC warrant. SC officers made them disarm and put their pistols in the trunk
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Good job you redneck Georgians.
Hopefully this means reciprocity with South Carolina is right around the corner. Honestly, that's something which should have been squared away in both states years ago. +1000 SC has it's head up it's ass in regards to things like that. I believe GCO is actively seeking to sue SC to allow carry. Many members have met all of the qualifications of getting a SC permit other than owning property there then applied for a permit as grounds. Sherriff's deputy I have known for years got pulled over in full uniform in squad car crossing the border into SC transporting a prisoner with a SC warrant. SC officers made them disarm and put their pistols in the trunk
I try as hard as I can to stay out of South Carolina My best friend spent 3 days in jail for having a loaded pistol in his bag, he was ignorant of SC law. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:27:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And don't accept non-resident permits. You also can't get a SC permit without owning property there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good job you redneck Georgians. Hopefully this means reciprocity with South Carolina is right around the corner. Honestly, that's something which should have been squared away in both states years ago. Talking to an SC transplant at work, it's SC's fault. They have training requirements for their permit, we don't and they don't want to reciprocate with a state with laxer requirements. And don't accept non-resident permits. You also can't get a SC permit without owning property there. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:29:09 PM EDT
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Renewals don't exist, or at least they didn't pre-this law. Every "renewal" was a new application. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Check out how NBC "News" presents the story: What Georgia's 'Extreme' New Gun Law Allows Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons. Critics have called the law “extreme,” while the National Rifle Association lauded it as an “historic victory for the Second Amendment. What does the Safe Carry Protection Act really do? Here’s a brief list of the major changes ahead for Georgians when the law takes effect July 1: link Good for you Georgia! We have had "bar carry" here in OH for a while and all of the same liberal, emotional, sky is falling BS was said before hand. Blood in the streets, etc. Nothing like that has happened. God forbid someone is able to stand up and protect themselves without a .gov based solution. Wow, it eliminates fingerprinting for the GWL. I didn't realize that. Nice! I believe that's only for renewals. Renewals don't exist, or at least they didn't pre-this law. Every "renewal" was a new application. Both good points. I meant for renewals--just typed fast. But, I believe you're right, there was no such thing before. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:29:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are churches opt-in or opt-out? I'm also curious how the airport bit works out with Hartsfield. They were supposed to let us carry while there already, but have stated that they would violate the law and arrest us. Opt-in
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:30:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right, but as a carrier, is the default legal assumption that they permit it or that they don't? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are churches opt-in or opt-out? I'm also curious how the airport bit works out with Hartsfield. They were supposed to let us carry while there already, but have stated that they would violate the law and arrest us. It's up to each individual church if they allow carry. Right, but as a carrier, is the default legal assumption that they permit it or that they don't? That they do not.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:31:59 PM EDT
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That they do not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are churches opt-in or opt-out? I'm also curious how the airport bit works out with Hartsfield. They were supposed to let us carry while there already, but have stated that they would violate the law and arrest us. It's up to each individual church if they allow carry. Right, but as a carrier, is the default legal assumption that they permit it or that they don't? That they do not. Thanks. GPDO is normally where I go for the simple explanation of our state gun laws, but I don't think they've updated. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:32:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:33:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:55:26 PM EDT
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So, after this little incident in Brunswick GA last year,
Does the new GA law allow HCPers or CCWers carry in municipal parks to protect themselves from wild animals? http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/us/georgia-baby-killed/ |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:59:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, after this little incident in Brunswick GA last year, Does the new GA law allow HCPers or CCWers carry in municipal parks to protect themselves from wild animals? http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/us/georgia-baby-killed/ State law has preempted municipalities and counties a while now. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:00:01 PM EDT
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So, after this little incident in Brunswick GA last year, Does the new GA law allow HCPers or CCWers carry in municipal parks to protect themselves from wild animals? http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/us/georgia-baby-killed/ Georgia law already allows carrying in parks. Georgia law also says that state gun laws preempt local gun laws, so municipalities can not ban firearms in parks. Nothing would have prevented the victim's parents from carrying, assuming they had a permit. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:03:10 PM EDT
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Congrats Ga.
Well done. Now, can I carry at the Masters? TXL |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:04:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Congrats Ga. Well done. Now, can I carry at the Masters? TXL You could always carry at the Masters, AFAIK.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:04:54 PM EDT
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Congrats Ga. Well done. Now, can I carry at the Masters? TXL Private organization on private property, I believe. Their decision. Edit: Website says no. "Prohibited Items ... Weapons of any kind (regardless of permit)" Link |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:07:05 PM EDT
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Georgia law already allows carrying in parks. Georgia law also says that state gun laws preempt local gun laws, so municipalities can not ban firearms in parks. Nothing would have prevented the victim's parents from carrying, assuming they had a permit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, after this little incident in Brunswick GA last year, Does the new GA law allow HCPers or CCWers carry in municipal parks to protect themselves from wild animals? http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/us/georgia-baby-killed/ Georgia law already allows carrying in parks. Georgia law also says that state gun laws preempt local gun laws, so municipalities can not ban firearms in parks. Nothing would have prevented the victim's parents from carrying, assuming they had a permit. So Breven52 is wrong. Last week the TN legislature after, blustering and chest beating, killed its bill that would have preempted local gun laws prohibiting carry in muni-parks.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:08:25 PM EDT
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So Breven52 is wrong. Last week the TN legislature after, blustering and chest beating, killed its bill that would have preempted local gun laws prohibiting carry in muni-parks.
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So, after this little incident in Brunswick GA last year, Does the new GA law allow HCPers or CCWers carry in municipal parks to protect themselves from wild animals? http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/us/georgia-baby-killed/ Georgia law already allows carrying in parks. Georgia law also says that state gun laws preempt local gun laws, so municipalities can not ban firearms in parks. Nothing would have prevented the victim's parents from carrying, assuming they had a permit. So Breven52 is wrong. Last week the TN legislature after, blustering and chest beating, killed its bill that would have preempted local gun laws prohibiting carry in muni-parks.
Preemption was before this bill. If he was referring solely to this bill, then he may still be right. It's ambiguous which he meant. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:11:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Private organization on private property, I believe. Their decision. Edit: Website says no. "Prohibited Items ... Weapons of any kind (regardless of permit)" Link Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Congrats Ga. Well done. Now, can I carry at the Masters? TXL Private organization on private property, I believe. Their decision. Edit: Website says no. "Prohibited Items ... Weapons of any kind (regardless of permit)" Link Which carries no legal weight unless you're found out and told to leave. If you refused, you could be charged with criminal trespass.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:12:19 PM EDT
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Which carries no legal weight unless you're found out and told to leave. If you refused, you could be charged with criminal trespass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Congrats Ga. Well done. Now, can I carry at the Masters? TXL Private organization on private property, I believe. Their decision. Edit: Website says no. "Prohibited Items ... Weapons of any kind (regardless of permit)" Link Which carries no legal weight unless you're found out and told to leave. If you refused, you could be charged with criminal trespass. You're right. Thought he was asking if it was kosher, rather than legal. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:16:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're right. Thought he was asking if it was kosher, rather than legal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Congrats Ga. Well done. Now, can I carry at the Masters? TXL Private organization on private property, I believe. Their decision. Edit: Website says no. "Prohibited Items ... Weapons of any kind (regardless of permit)" Link Which carries no legal weight unless you're found out and told to leave. If you refused, you could be charged with criminal trespass. You're right. Thought he was asking if it was kosher, rather than legal. That's my impression as well, I just wanted to clarify. I figured you knew that.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:16:32 PM EDT
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It's on the front page of CNN.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:17:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's on the front page of CNN. GUNZZZ EVERYWHEREZ!!!
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:38:13 PM EDT
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Strong work Georgia!!! In before someone from another state contests this as a non-victory?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:47:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:52:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:06:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tennessee did all those except make the exemption for soldiers in like 2010. No blood in the streets or daily bar shootouts (except for Memphis, which we all know is not Tennessee) Except in Tennessee, a "no guns" sign means you can be arrested if you carry there, and local governments can ban carry in public parks and don't even have to have it clearly posted for you to be liable for arrest if you carry there. In Georgia, a "no guns" sign tells you the owners are assholes, and the list of places a person with a license can't legally carry is pretty short :-) |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:08:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maaaan. I literally got my GWl renewed in February and had to be fingerprinted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Check out how NBC "News" presents the story: What Georgia's 'Extreme' New Gun Law Allows Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons. Critics have called the law "extreme,” while the National Rifle Association lauded it as an "historic victory for the Second Amendment. What does the Safe Carry Protection Act really do? Here’s a brief list of the major changes ahead for Georgians when the law takes effect July 1: link Good for you Georgia! We have had "bar carry" here in OH for a while and all of the same liberal, emotional, sky is falling BS was said before hand. Blood in the streets, etc. Nothing like that has happened. God forbid someone is able to stand up and protect themselves without a .gov based solution. Wow, it eliminates fingerprinting for the GWL. I didn't realize that. Nice! Maaaan. I literally got my GWl renewed in February and had to be fingerprinted. Mine was last week... I'd held out a bit hoping the law would go into effect as soon as it was signed, but then found out it takes effect July 1st, so went ahead and renewed. Old permit doesn't expire until next week. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:11:08 PM EDT
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GA > TX.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:12:51 PM EDT
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It's a start, but it's not near far enough until the phrase gun-control law is seen as so toxic that nobody dare utter it ever again.
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