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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:10:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This would have all gone away if the deputy had acted like a man instead of a bitch. It was his fault, and all he had to do was apologize and acted like he gave a shit. Of course Momma bear was going to go off...that's how they get when somebody fucks with their cub. If I had to guess I'd say this deputy was under the influence of something. That explains his driving and belligerent behavior. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:21:27 PM EDT
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"Well if you think cops break the law so casually that it would have no bearing on whether or not to perform an action, then there is really no need to continue this conversation. We go back to square one where I tell you that your views on LE are myopic, paranoid, and downright hysterical." Citadel-SC "Then I wouldn't have a problem "finding" something to charge him with." bcauz3y, just one page later. It would be funny if they weren't in positions of authority. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's either trolling us or having a bad fucking day because both he and Citadel are usually not ones to be TBL'ers at all on here but his comments on this are  "Well if you think cops break the law so casually that it would have no bearing on whether or not to perform an action, then there is really no need to continue this conversation. We go back to square one where I tell you that your views on LE are myopic, paranoid, and downright hysterical." Citadel-SC "Then I wouldn't have a problem "finding" something to charge him with." bcauz3y, just one page later. It would be funny if they weren't in positions of authority. LOL, what does that even mean? What is so bad about what I posted above? It is simply asserting that you're wrong in your assertion that breaking the law is of no consideration to cops in the choice of their actions. So you think I and most cops don't consider whether something is legal or not before taking action? God forbid I don't toe the Flats line of things or else I am an apologist, JBT, and TBL'er. You have lost your mind. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:26:35 PM EDT
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He's either trolling us or having a bad fucking day because both he and Citadel are usually not ones to be TBL'ers at all on here but his comments on this are I have not defended the officer's behavior, only attacked the usual generalizations. In fact, I criticized the officer and referred to him as a rude asshole. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:31:05 PM EDT
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Actually, most cops here don't wonder and don't care. But I appreciate the response, and I'm sure others do as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am a watch commander and supervise a entire patrol squad. If one of my officers pulled this stunt I woul flip my shit. For starters take home vehicle would be gone. Public apology to family and community would be next. I would recommend 1 month suspension WITHOUT pay to the chief, and he would completely back me. The officer would also have a silent sergeant placed in his vehicle to monitor his driving habits, if and when he came back to work. There is no place for this kind if shit in police work. All it does is drive a wedge between us and the community. Officers wonder why the community distrust the police, because of shenanigans like this. I am all for my guys doing thier job and putting shitheads in jail, but they WILL do it with professionalism and respect. Bottom line is this guy should be charged with careless and reckless driving if the parents story is completely accurate. Actually, most cops here don't wonder and don't care. But I appreciate the response, and I'm sure others do as well. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:39:34 PM EDT
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I am a watch commander and supervise a entire patrol squad. If one of my officers pulled this stunt I woul flip my shit. For starters take home vehicle would be gone. Public apology to family and community would be next. I would recommend 1 month suspension WITHOUT pay to the chief, and he would completely back me. The officer would also have a silent sergeant placed in his vehicle to monitor his driving habits, if and when he came back to work. There is no place for this kind if shit in police work. All it does is drive a wedge between us and the community. Officers wonder why the community distrust the police, because of shenanigans like this. I am all for my guys doing thier job and putting shitheads in jail, but they WILL do it with professionalism and respect. Bottom line is this guy should be charged with careless and reckless driving if the parents story is completely accurate. Actually, most cops here don't wonder and don't care. But I appreciate the response, and I'm sure others do as well.
The shit GD believes. Yea we have one or two posters who like to say that, so now all cops here don't care what the public thinks about them! It is so ridiculous and the same methodology behind many of their arguments. It is simply illogical and completely emotional. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:47:34 PM EDT
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Yea we have one or two posters who like to say that, so now all cops here don't care what the public thinks about them! It is so ridiculous and the same methodology behind many of their arguments. It is simply illogical and completely emotional. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am a watch commander and supervise a entire patrol squad. If one of my officers pulled this stunt I woul flip my shit. For starters take home vehicle would be gone. Public apology to family and community would be next. I would recommend 1 month suspension WITHOUT pay to the chief, and he would completely back me. The officer would also have a silent sergeant placed in his vehicle to monitor his driving habits, if and when he came back to work. There is no place for this kind if shit in police work. All it does is drive a wedge between us and the community. Officers wonder why the community distrust the police, because of shenanigans like this. I am all for my guys doing thier job and putting shitheads in jail, but they WILL do it with professionalism and respect. Bottom line is this guy should be charged with careless and reckless driving if the parents story is completely accurate. Actually, most cops here don't wonder and don't care. But I appreciate the response, and I'm sure others do as well.
The shit GD believes. Yea we have one or two posters who like to say that, so now all cops here don't care what the public thinks about them! It is so ridiculous and the same methodology behind many of their arguments. It is simply illogical and completely emotional. Funny how a cop that agrees with his view point is what all other cops shoulld aspire to be....................... |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:27:07 PM EDT
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Yea we have one or two posters who like to say that, so now all cops here don't care what the public thinks about them! It is so ridiculous and the same methodology behind many of their arguments. It is simply illogical and completely emotional. Can I ask you a question...don't LEO's here have a private forum to discuss LEO related topics? Why join a LEO thread on GD when you know many are expecting the TBL defense? It comes off as trolling, and I'm sure you guys are better than that. I think the mods handle bashers if it goes too far so you don't need to deal with it. None of the cops I know even give two shits about what someone on a internet forum thinks of them. They only play cop when on-duty. Does the outcome of this type of thread really matter to you? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:34:15 PM EDT
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Lol I got a warning for posting a popular nwa song that played on the radio during the 90's one that brought awareness of white on black police abuse
What kind of Ponzi scheme I this ? Maybe I need more heads being sawed off on liveleak .. Gonna give me a warning for posting dr king videos too? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:38:11 PM EDT
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Can I ask you a question...don't LEO's here have a private forum to discuss LEO related topics? Why join a LEO thread on GD when you know many are expecting the TBL defense? It comes off as trolling, and I'm sure you guys are better than that. I think the mods handle bashers if it goes too far so you don't need to deal with it. None of the cops I know even give two shits about what someone on a internet forum thinks of them. They only play cop when on-duty. Does the outcome of this type of thread really matter to you? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yea we have one or two posters who like to say that, so now all cops here don't care what the public thinks about them! It is so ridiculous and the same methodology behind many of their arguments. It is simply illogical and completely emotional. Can I ask you a question...don't LEO's here have a private forum to discuss LEO related topics? Why join a LEO thread on GD when you know many are expecting the TBL defense? It comes off as trolling, and I'm sure you guys are better than that. I think the mods handle bashers if it goes too far so you don't need to deal with it. None of the cops I know even give two shits about what someone on a internet forum thinks of them. They only play cop when on-duty. Does the outcome of this type of thread really matter to you? So LEOs giving their opinion comes off as trolling? So none of the gross generalizations or one liners from the other side come off as trolling? I actually try and be as objective as possible on actual incidents and usually only comment on other people's posts. I have criticized cops many times here. I am not a member of the LEO forum because I have never turned my credentials into the site. So basically, are you asking that cops not participate in LE threads that occur in GD? Answer the question as to why you participate in threads and you will probably have your answer. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:02:27 PM EDT
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So LEOs giving their opinion comes off as trolling? LEO's giving their opinion as experts can't seem to do it without condescension. That is what comes off as trolling. So none of the gross generalizations or one liners from the other side come off as trolling? Yes, its also trolling but usually based on ignorance. It's a shame there is an 'other side' but why participate? I actually try and be as objective as possible on actual incidents and usually only comment on other people's posts. I have criticized cops many times here. I am not a member of the LEO forum because I have never turned my credentials into the site. Fair enough So basically, are you asking that cops not participate in LE threads that occur in GD? Of course not...keep doing your thing if you like. It's merely an observation. Answer the question as to why you participate in threads and you will probably have your answer. I don't participate in any threads as an expert in my profession. I'm here for the entertainment value only. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 10:58:42 PM EDT
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I have not defended the officer's behavior, only attacked the usual generalizations. In fact, I criticized the officer and referred to him as a rude asshole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's either trolling us or having a bad fucking day because both he and Citadel are usually not ones to be TBL'ers at all on here but his comments on this are I have not defended the officer's behavior, only attacked the usual generalizations. In fact, I criticized the officer and referred to him as a rude asshole. I know. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. My poorly worded comment was more meant toward Bama's unusual stance on this issue that is out of character from his typically non-biased post. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:51:52 PM EDT
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I would feel for them that their kid got crunched but I'm not apologizing for it. Keep your kids off other peoples property. It's amazing when folks around here talk about property rights until something like this comes along now it's ok to trespass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I in no way shape, form or fashion think it is "just fine". Accidents happen. Your child being stuck by someone elses vehicle, on someone elses property is not likely to happen if you don't allow your child to be on someone elses property. A report was taken. What else do think is going to happen? It's not his fault their kid was in his driveway when he entered his property. <---IRL, I personally deal with this all the time, Neighbors kids like to ride their bikes down my driveway because it is a steep. Not my fault one day if I crunch one, and if it happens I will not apologize for it. I have also worked one where a neighbor ran over the next door neighbor kid in guess where, the other neighbors driveway. Empathy is what makes us human. If you don't have it, you need help. What kind of person would "crunch" a child and not say they were sorry? Take a look at yourself and think about that. I would feel for them that their kid got crunched but I'm not apologizing for it. Keep your kids off other peoples property. It's amazing when folks around here talk about property rights until something like this comes along now it's ok to trespass. What if it was a side walk? Not really your property in some places but you have to maintain it. Like shoveling snow, blowing leaves. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:51:57 PM EDT
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I'd would of apologized for smashing her child's bike and bloodying her knee, yeah people get pissed when you nearly run over their kids, even if it is totally the kids fault. That doesn't mean I would be a prick like the driver appears to have been. just my 2 cents.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 2:37:11 AM EDT
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I'd would of apologized for smashing her child's bike and bloodying her knee, yeah people get pissed when you nearly run over their kids, even if it is totally the kids fault. That doesn't mean I would be a prick like the driver appears to have been. just my 2 cents. Bumping tires is hardly smashing and mom admited to flying off the handle and jumping the guys ass right off the bat. It is hilarious that a you tube video of two people (one of wich was not even there)telling a story, can lead to so many people crying for blood with out any other evidence. Lol gotta love gd judge, jury, executioner right from the basement 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 2:56:10 AM EDT
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You would fly off the handle too if your child almost got ran over (again, even though it is probably the child/moms fault it happened). still no reason to be a prick.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 3:00:46 AM EDT
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What a fucking asshat
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Posted: 4/24/2014 3:59:54 AM EDT
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What if it was a side walk? Not really your property in some places but you have to maintain it. Like shoveling snow, blowing leaves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would feel for them that their kid got crunched but I'm not apologizing for it. Keep your kids off other peoples property. It's amazing when folks around here talk about property rights until something like this comes along now it's ok to trespass. What if it was a side walk? Not really your property in some places but you have to maintain it. Like shoveling snow, blowing leaves. Do you know how I know you didn't watch the video? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:08:28 AM EDT
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I am a watch commander and supervise a entire patrol squad. If one of my officers pulled this stunt I woul flip my shit. For starters take home vehicle would be gone. Public apology to family and community would be next. I would recommend 1 month suspension WITHOUT pay to the chief, and he would completely back me. The officer would also have a silent sergeant placed in his vehicle to monitor his driving habits, if and when he came back to work. There is no place for this kind if shit in police work. All it does is drive a wedge between us and the community. Officers wonder why the community distrust the police, because of shenanigans like this. I am all for my guys doing thier job and putting shitheads in jail, but they WILL do it with professionalism and respect. Bottom line is this guy should be charged with careless and reckless driving if the parents story is completely accurate. Actually, most cops here don't wonder and don't care. But I appreciate the response, and I'm sure others do as well.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:09:39 AM EDT
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Lol I got a warning for posting a popular nwa song that played on the radio during the 90's one that brought awareness of white on black police abuse What kind of Ponzi scheme I this ? Maybe I need more heads being sawed off on liveleak .. Gonna give me a warning for posting dr king videos too? No offense but you should have seen that coming a mile away. 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:44:19 AM EDT
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Do you know how I know you didn't watch the video? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would feel for them that their kid got crunched but I'm not apologizing for it. Keep your kids off other peoples property. It's amazing when folks around here talk about property rights until something like this comes along now it's ok to trespass. What if it was a side walk? Not really your property in some places but you have to maintain it. Like shoveling snow, blowing leaves. Do you know how I know you didn't watch the video? Evidently neither on you did: Kid on bike in street. Driver hits kid on bike in street. Kids falls down and gets a boo-boo. Momma bear protects cub. Driver shows he's a bitch. Parents butthurt. Driver friends find him not guilty. More butthurt. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:54:53 AM EDT
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I am a watch commander and supervise a entire patrol squad. If one of my officers pulled this stunt I woul flip my shit. For starters take home vehicle would be gone. Public apology to family and community would be next. I would recommend 1 month suspension WITHOUT pay to the chief, and he would completely back me. The officer would also have a silent sergeant placed in his vehicle to monitor his driving habits, if and when he came back to work. There is no place for this kind if shit in police work. All it does is drive a wedge between us and the community. Officers wonder why the community distrust the police, because of shenanigans like this. I am all for my guys doing thier job and putting shitheads in jail, but they WILL do it with professionalism and respect. Bottom line is this guy should be charged with careless and reckless driving if the parents story is completely accurate. Actually, most cops here don't wonder and don't care. But I appreciate the response, and I'm sure others do as well.
The shit GD believes. Believes? No, several cops on this board have said as much, repeatedly. I've said it and every time it's been taken out of context. I don't care what the basement dwelling O2 thieves think about me or think how I should do my job. I don't care because with them no matter how I preform my job I'm a JBT . I do my job within the guidelines of the US Constitution, my oath and my depts policy. If you don't like that then I can't help you. Now to the current subject, seems to me the Deputy is a dick and should have handled it differently. But all the; he did it on purpose, he was under the influence BS is the basement dwelling O2 thieves talking and I don't care what they think. We have a one sided article and the results of the State Police and DAs investigation to go on. Any one of these scenarios could have happened. -The Deputy is a dick and didn't care if he ran over the child or not. -The Deputy didn't notice the child until to late and struck the bicycles front tire, accidentally. -The Deputy had fucked the neighbor and it might be his child and he didn't want to pay child support for 18+ yrs so he tried to run over her. -The Deputy was pre occupied and was wanting to get home and didn't realize how close he came to running over the child. -The deputy has Pedophobia and was terrified and was trying to get away from the child as quickly as possible. -The Deputy saw the child waiting on him to pull in and the child rolled forward into the rear of the SUV. Or what most likely happened the Deputy didn't notice the child standing by the mailbox and the rear of his vehicle bumped her tire causing her to fall over. The Deputy not knowing this exited his vehicle to come face to face with a irate mother and was taken by surprise with the whole incident. We really don't know the details, I do know the deputy could have and should have handled it differently. My depts policy is to roll medical, assist the injured if needed and immediately notify a supervisor of any on duty or City own vehicle accidents. ETA then we go pee in a cup and take a breath test. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:57:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol I got a warning for posting a popular nwa song that played on the radio during the 90's one that brought awareness of white on black police abuse What kind of Ponzi scheme I this ? Maybe I need more heads being sawed off on liveleak .. Gonna give me a warning for posting dr king videos too? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:05:42 AM EDT
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Lol I got a warning for posting a popular nwa song that played on the radio during the 90's one that brought awareness of white on black police abuse It was actually about white and black cops abusing blacks. "But don't let it be a black and a white one Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top Black police showin out for the white cop" 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:49:15 AM EDT
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I am a watch commander and supervise a entire patrol squad. If one of my officers pulled this stunt I woul flip my shit. For starters take home vehicle would be gone. Public apology to family and community would be next. I would recommend 1 month suspension WITHOUT pay to the chief, and he would completely back me. The officer would also have a silent sergeant placed in his vehicle to monitor his driving habits, if and when he came back to work. There is no place for this kind if shit in police work. All it does is drive a wedge between us and the community. Officers wonder why the community distrust the police, because of shenanigans like this. I am all for my guys doing thier job and putting shitheads in jail, but they WILL do it with professionalism and respect. Bottom line is this guy should be charged with careless and reckless driving if the parents story is completely accurate. Actually, most cops here don't wonder and don't care. But I appreciate the response, and I'm sure others do as well.
The shit GD believes. Believes? No, several cops on this board have said as much, repeatedly. I've seen it on the LE forum as well, so they can't blame that on "basement dwellers". Something like "I don't give a fuck what the public thinks of me and I don't know any cop who does". It's weird that they say stuff and then argue with you about it. Hell, it's not my opinion, it's theirs. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:55:49 AM EDT
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LOL, what does that even mean? What is so bad about what I posted above? It is simply asserting that you're wrong in your assertion that breaking the law is of no consideration to cops in the choice of their actions. So you think I and most cops don't consider whether something is legal or not before taking action? God forbid I don't toe the Flats line of things or else I am an apologist, JBT, and TBL'er. You have lost your mind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's either trolling us or having a bad fucking day because both he and Citadel are usually not ones to be TBL'ers at all on here but his comments on this are "Well if you think cops break the law so casually that it would have no bearing on whether or not to perform an action, then there is really no need to continue this conversation. We go back to square one where I tell you that your views on LE are myopic, paranoid, and downright hysterical." Citadel-SC "Then I wouldn't have a problem "finding" something to charge him with." bcauz3y, just one page later. It would be funny if they weren't in positions of authority. LOL, what does that even mean? What is so bad about what I posted above? It is simply asserting that you're wrong in your assertion that breaking the law is of no consideration to cops in the choice of their actions. So you think I and most cops don't consider whether something is legal or not before taking action? God forbid I don't toe the Flats line of things or else I am an apologist, JBT, and TBL'er. You have lost your mind. What's bad it about it is that it shows how wrong and naive you are, which means you're going to believe the cops every time over joe citizen absent proof to the contrary. You post that, the next page one of GD's own proves you wrong, and what did you say about it? Nothing. That's what you'd say if it happened in front of you, too. Nothing. Maybe the percentage of cops who would write a "creative" ticket under certain conditions is small (I don't believe it is), but the ones who would look the other way, even if it disgusted them, is a lot bigger. Everybody knows it; I don't know why you act offended. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:23:14 AM EDT
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I figured you'd get a smack as soon as I saw it. For what its worth, I played it in my office and enjoyed every minute of it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol I got a warning for posting a popular nwa song that played on the radio during the 90's one that brought awareness of white on black police abuse What kind of Ponzi scheme I this ? Maybe I need more heads being sawed off on liveleak .. Gonna give me a warning for posting dr king videos too? I bumped it in the minivan |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:26:37 AM EDT
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It should be a requirement that every person posting a negative article about law enforcement should post 2 positive ones as well. It should be a requirement that everybody posting a positive comment about law enforcement should post 100 times about the bad things that cops have done. We shouldn't let a group who call themselves professionals off too easily, it leads to complacency. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:42:52 AM EDT
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I've seen it on the LE forum as well, so they can't blame that on "basement dwellers". Something like "I don't give a fuck what the public thinks of me and I don't know any cop who does". It's weird that they say stuff and then argue with you about it. Hell, it's not my opinion, it's theirs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am a watch commander and supervise a entire patrol squad. If one of my officers pulled this stunt I woul flip my shit. For starters take home vehicle would be gone. Public apology to family and community would be next. I would recommend 1 month suspension WITHOUT pay to the chief, and he would completely back me. The officer would also have a silent sergeant placed in his vehicle to monitor his driving habits, if and when he came back to work. There is no place for this kind if shit in police work. All it does is drive a wedge between us and the community. Officers wonder why the community distrust the police, because of shenanigans like this. I am all for my guys doing thier job and putting shitheads in jail, but they WILL do it with professionalism and respect. Bottom line is this guy should be charged with careless and reckless driving if the parents story is completely accurate. Actually, most cops here don't wonder and don't care. But I appreciate the response, and I'm sure others do as well.
The shit GD believes. Believes? No, several cops on this board have said as much, repeatedly. I've seen it on the LE forum as well, so they can't blame that on "basement dwellers". Something like "I don't give a fuck what the public thinks of me and I don't know any cop who does". It's weird that they say stuff and then argue with you about it. Hell, it's not my opinion, it's theirs. Basement dwellers are every where man. Ask yourself why would a police officer say that type of thing? This thread is why, every LE thread in GD is why. The reason is staring you right in the face. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:48:51 AM EDT
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Ask yourself why would a police officer say that type of thing? Because that's how they feel. Is this a trick question or something? You might want to take a look at this poll. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1617188_How_have_posts_by_law_enforcement_officers_on_this_site_affected_your_overall_opinion_of_LEO_.html |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:51:20 AM EDT
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Because that's how they feel. Is this a trick question or something? You might want to take a look at this poll. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1617188_How_have_posts_by_law_enforcement_officers_on_this_site_affected_your_overall_opinion_of_LEO_.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ask yourself why would a police officer say that type of thing? Because that's how they feel. Is this a trick question or something? You might want to take a look at this poll. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1617188_How_have_posts_by_law_enforcement_officers_on_this_site_affected_your_overall_opinion_of_LEO_.html There's an unbiased sample....... |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:53:18 AM EDT
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I've seen it on the LE forum as well, so they can't blame that on "basement dwellers". Something like "I don't give a fuck what the public thinks of me and I don't know any cop who does". It's weird that they say stuff and then argue with you about it. Hell, it's not my opinion, it's theirs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am a watch commander and supervise a entire patrol squad. If one of my officers pulled this stunt I woul flip my shit. For starters take home vehicle would be gone. Public apology to family and community would be next. I would recommend 1 month suspension WITHOUT pay to the chief, and he would completely back me. The officer would also have a silent sergeant placed in his vehicle to monitor his driving habits, if and when he came back to work. There is no place for this kind if shit in police work. All it does is drive a wedge between us and the community. Officers wonder why the community distrust the police, because of shenanigans like this. I am all for my guys doing thier job and putting shitheads in jail, but they WILL do it with professionalism and respect. Bottom line is this guy should be charged with careless and reckless driving if the parents story is completely accurate. Actually, most cops here don't wonder and don't care. But I appreciate the response, and I'm sure others do as well.
The shit GD believes. Believes? No, several cops on this board have said as much, repeatedly. I've seen it on the LE forum as well, so they can't blame that on "basement dwellers". Something like "I don't give a fuck what the public thinks of me and I don't know any cop who does". It's weird that they say stuff and then argue with you about it. Hell, it's not my opinion, it's theirs. Who exactly is "they"? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:53:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:58:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:01:28 AM EDT
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Parents are morons. How would you suggest they should have handled the situation? Do nothing because some asshole hit their little girl while she was riding her bike? Serious question. Keep your kids off of other peoples property for a start. Did you read the article? Don't you think the cop had a responsibility to exercise more caution than normal when he sees little kids in the street? Good to know I can run kids over that are playing on public roads simply because they shouldn't be there. Pridgen said she was walking while her 5-year-old daughter rode her bike along with a neighbor’s child across the cul-de-sac in their neighborhood near Sims toward another neighbor’s house. She said two vehicles drove by slowly.
"There was this big black vehicle coming toward us, and I remember looking back frantically — you know, ‘Hold on, slow down, we’re trying to get the kids off the road,’” Pridgen said. Pridgen said one of her neighbors, Detective Steve Smith of the sheriff’s office, was driving one of the vehicles, a county-owned SUV. Pridgen said the neighbor’s child froze and her daughter moved over right at Smith’s mailbox near the driveway. "Sure enough, the Suburban pulls in just as quick as I don’t know what — he was in the middle of the road,” Pridgen said. "He swerves into his driveway and knocks her front wheel with the back end of his Suburban. And she falls over.” |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:10:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:20:58 AM EDT
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Me too. Unless the mother/father went hysterical, and then I'd tell them to fuck off. Which is exactly what I'm thinking happened here. CALL THE COPS HE DIDN'T APOLOGIZE!~ zomgWTF bbq Smith sounds pretty caviler for apparently having committed what could be considered 'hit and run' or 'leaving the scene' in most places. Actually it wouldn't be a hit and run in any place. He never left the scene. Quotes aren't working for me ATM. Au contraire. This is the Texas code. A google search returned results for numerous states. Sec. 550.023. DUTY TO GIVE INFORMATION AND RENDER AID. The operator of a vehicle involved in an accident resulting in the injury or death of a person or damage to a vehicle that is driven or attended by a person shall: (1) give the operator's name and address, the registration number of the vehicle the operator was driving, and the name of the operator's motor vehicle liability insurer to any person injured or the operator or occupant of or person attending a vehicle involved in the collision; (2) if requested and available, show the operator's driver's license to a person described by Subdivision (1); and (3) provide any person injured in the accident reasonable assistance, including transporting or making arrangements for transporting the person to a physician or hospital for medical treatment if it is apparent that treatment is necessary, or if the injured person requests the transportation. ALABAMA STATUTES AND CODES Section 32-10-2 Duty to give information and render aid. 'The driver of any motor vehicle involved in an accident resulting in injury to or the death of any person or damage to any vehicle which is driven or attended by any person shall give his name, address and the registration number of the vehicle he is driving, shall upon request exhibit his driver's license to the person struck or the driver or occupant of or person attending any motor or other vehicle collided with or damaged and shall render to any person injured in such accident reasonable assistance, including the transportation of, or the making of arrangements for the transportation of such person to a physician or hospital for medical or surgical treatment, if it is apparent that such treatment is necessary or if such transportation is requested by the injured person.' [div style='text-align: left;']As to whether or not he left the scene, a case could be made that his failure to make himself available for following the above, which it appears he didn't as he apparently went in the house, would qualify as leaving the scene in most states. Funny that you don't know the traffic laws in your state...aren't you a peace officer? How, pray tell, do you provide reasonable assistance to a skinned knee?
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If I knocked a child off her bike with my vehicle , in a public street, and didn't stop to render 'aid'...I'd likely get hauled to jail. Uh, no. There is no duty to provide aid. Personally I'd do everything in my power to make sure the child wasn't injured and if she was I'd get her medical attention. CALL THE COPS HE DIDN'T APOLOGIZE!~ zomgWTF bbq Smith sounds pretty caviler for apparently having committed what could be considered 'hit and run' or 'leaving the scene' in most places. Actually it wouldn't be a hit and run in any place. He never left the scene. Quotes aren't working for me ATM. Au contraire. This is the Texas code. A google search returned results for numerous states. Sec. 550.023. DUTY TO GIVE INFORMATION AND RENDER AID. The operator of a vehicle involved in an accident resulting in the injury or death of a person or damage to a vehicle that is driven or attended by a person shall: (1) give the operator's name and address, the registration number of the vehicle the operator was driving, and the name of the operator's motor vehicle liability insurer to any person injured or the operator or occupant of or person attending a vehicle involved in the collision; (2) if requested and available, show the operator's driver's license to a person described by Subdivision (1); and (3) provide any person injured in the accident reasonable assistance, including transporting or making arrangements for transporting the person to a physician or hospital for medical treatment if it is apparent that treatment is necessary, or if the injured person requests the transportation. ALABAMA STATUTES AND CODES Section 32-10-2 Duty to give information and render aid. 'The driver of any motor vehicle involved in an accident resulting in injury to or the death of any person or damage to any vehicle which is driven or attended by any person shall give his name, address and the registration number of the vehicle he is driving, shall upon request exhibit his driver's license to the person struck or the driver or occupant of or person attending any motor or other vehicle collided with or damaged and shall render to any person injured in such accident reasonable assistance, including the transportation of, or the making of arrangements for the transportation of such person to a physician or hospital for medical or surgical treatment, if it is apparent that such treatment is necessary or if such transportation is requested by the injured person.' [div style='text-align: left;']As to whether or not he left the scene, a case could be made that his failure to make himself available for following the above, which it appears he didn't as he apparently went in the house, would qualify as leaving the scene in most states. Funny that you don't know the traffic laws in your state...aren't you a peace officer? How, pray tell, do you provide reasonable assistance to a skinned knee?
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:25:46 AM EDT
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What's bad it about it is that it shows how wrong and naive you are, which means you're going to believe the cops every time over joe citizen absent proof to the contrary. You post that, the next page one of GD's own proves you wrong, and what did you say about it? Nothing. That's what you'd say if it happened in front of you, too. Nothing. Maybe the percentage of cops who would write a "creative" ticket under certain conditions is small (I don't believe it is), but the ones who would look the other way, even if it disgusted them, is a lot bigger. Everybody knows it; I don't know why you act offended. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's either trolling us or having a bad fucking day because both he and Citadel are usually not ones to be TBL'ers at all on here but his comments on this are "Well if you think cops break the law so casually that it would have no bearing on whether or not to perform an action, then there is really no need to continue this conversation. We go back to square one where I tell you that your views on LE are myopic, paranoid, and downright hysterical." Citadel-SC "Then I wouldn't have a problem "finding" something to charge him with." bcauz3y, just one page later. It would be funny if they weren't in positions of authority. LOL, what does that even mean? What is so bad about what I posted above? It is simply asserting that you're wrong in your assertion that breaking the law is of no consideration to cops in the choice of their actions. So you think I and most cops don't consider whether something is legal or not before taking action? God forbid I don't toe the Flats line of things or else I am an apologist, JBT, and TBL'er. You have lost your mind. What's bad it about it is that it shows how wrong and naive you are, which means you're going to believe the cops every time over joe citizen absent proof to the contrary. You post that, the next page one of GD's own proves you wrong, and what did you say about it? Nothing. That's what you'd say if it happened in front of you, too. Nothing. Maybe the percentage of cops who would write a "creative" ticket under certain conditions is small (I don't believe it is), but the ones who would look the other way, even if it disgusted them, is a lot bigger. Everybody knows it; I don't know why you act offended. Exactly. Citadel - you do seem like one of the "good" cops but you also come across as completely naive (or in complete denial). In my 50 years on this earth, I've run into cops that beat their wives and get away with it, get drunk or do drugs on the job, sell drugs they have confiscated from dealers, force teenage girls to have sex with them in exchange for not getting arrested, and even worse things. I don't trust a cop any further than any other stranger that I may run across. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:27:55 AM EDT
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Everybody keeps saying "reverse the situation"....ok...let's reverse it. Your average GD type is driving home after a long day at the office. As you pull near your house you see Mrs Jones walking with some young kids on their bikes. As you near your driveway they stop moving in front of your mailbox as you make the turn. For whatever reason, you are distracted, tired or just forgot you are driving a vehicle that is 87 feet long you cut the corner a bit too sharp. Don't think much of it. As you pull into your parking spot, hop out and dream of the steak you will cook and post online in a dinner pic later that evening, Mrs Jones comes flying up the driveway at you cursing, screaming, calling you a jackass and telling you to go fuck your dead mother. She's on your property and screaming like a lunatic. I mean loud. You really want us to now believe that all the internet badasses in GD would immediately beg for forgiveness, rush to the child's aide and offer to pay for her collage? Yea.....fuck no they wouldn't. They'd run to the internets to post in GD about how they bladed at 45, had a massive adrenaline dump and told that cunt to fuck right off. Pretty much what mom said happen. You are held at a higher standard as a police officer. You must act with professionalism at all times while wearing a badge. Guy acted like a spoiled little jackass. He should be fucking ashamed of himself. He also embarrassed the shit out of his department. It could have been handled way better. Allegedly. All we have is the word of a hysterical mother who admits she started the verbal altercation. Deputy was cleared by the state police, the DA and the SO. No allegedly about it. You are held To a higher standard. You aren't expected to engage in public pissing matches in your own neighborhood. I guess "put a fucking bandaid on it" is acceptable to you. He should have offered some Neosporin. 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:34:39 AM EDT
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Because that's how they feel. Is this a trick question or something? You might want to take a look at this poll. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1617188_How_have_posts_by_law_enforcement_officers_on_this_site_affected_your_overall_opinion_of_LEO_.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ask yourself why would a police officer say that type of thing? Because that's how they feel. Is this a trick question or something? You might want to take a look at this poll. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1617188_How_have_posts_by_law_enforcement_officers_on_this_site_affected_your_overall_opinion_of_LEO_.html Not a trick question. That poll doesn't mean shit and you know it. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:35:31 AM EDT
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Kind of a double edged sword here, had the rolls been reversed and we had a cop on a bike,
he would have been defended here for shooting the driver of the suv. Strange times we live in.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:38:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am a watch commander and supervise a entire patrol squad. If one of my officers pulled this stunt I woul flip my shit. For starters take home vehicle would be gone. Public apology to family and community would be next. I would recommend 1 month suspension WITHOUT pay to the chief, and he would completely back me. The officer would also have a silent sergeant placed in his vehicle to monitor his driving habits, if and when he came back to work. There is no place for this kind if shit in police work. All it does is drive a wedge between us and the community. Officers wonder why the community distrust the police, because of shenanigans like this. I am all for my guys doing thier job and putting shitheads in jail, but they WILL do it with professionalism and respect. Bottom line is this guy should be charged with careless and reckless driving if the parents story is completely accurate. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:39:37 AM EDT
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Because for some of us it was true where we worked? I didn't put much stock in the opinion of people GD routinely calls "ghetto goblins". Though I don't recall arguing with anyone here about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something like "I don't give a fuck what the public thinks of me and I don't know any cop who does". It's weird that they say stuff and then argue with you about it. Hell, it's not my opinion, it's theirs. Ask yourself why would a police officer say that type of thing? Because for some of us it was true where we worked? I didn't put much stock in the opinion of people GD routinely calls "ghetto goblins". Though I don't recall arguing with anyone here about it. And why should you care what the "ghetto goblins" or basement dwellers think? Certain areas a I work no matter what I do, no matter how I do my job I'm a racist, a JBT etc. I've responded to the 12th shooting in 2 wks in the same projects to hear fuck the police being yelled. Why would I care what these groups think? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:41:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:41:41 AM EDT
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Why can't I stop laughing at the term "Deputy Douchebag"!!??
I have no idea what this thread is about but I simply cannot stop laughing.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:44:39 AM EDT
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Why can't I stop laughing at the term "Deputy Douchebag"!!?? I have no idea what this thread is about but I simply cannot stop laughing.
I keep seeing certain cops I worked with in a Deputy uniform giving a fucked up salute.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:54:29 AM EDT
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My mom lives on a cul-de-sac. There are 4 or 5 young kids that love to ride their bikes and big wheels around the sidewalk of said cul-de-sac. In the past I have always been very careful to watch were everyone is when I back out. I have a back-up camera and sensors on my truck to help as well.
But, you know, I say fuck it. I'm just gonna floor it from now on. Screw those little kids having fun riding their toys. They should be chained up in the yard so they can't get in any trouble. Who do they think they are having fun in a relatively safe cul-de-sac. Well maybe not safe anymore with deputy douche around. I wonder what will happen to me when I knock one off their bike??
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:55:24 AM EDT
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Kind of a double edged sword here, had the rolls been reversed and we had a cop on a bike, he would have been defended here for shooting the driver of the suv. Strange times we live in.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:59:11 AM EDT
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My mom lives on a cul-de-sac. There are 4 or 5 young kids that love to ride their bikes and big wheels around the sidewalk of said cul-de-sac. In the past I have always been very careful to watch were everyone is when I back out. I have a back-up camera and sensors on my truck to help as well. But, you know, I say fuck it. I'm just gonna floor it from now on. Screw those little kids having fun riding their toys. They should be chained up in the yard so they can't get in any trouble. Who do they think they are having fun in a relatively safe cul-de-sac. Well maybe not safe anymore with deputy douche around. I wonder what will happen to me when I knock one off their bike??
Haha I love this place. A cop bumped a kid so now its ok to run over kids on bikes. 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:10:47 AM EDT
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Kind of a double edged sword here, had the rolls been reversed and we had a cop on a bike, he would have been defended here for shooting the driver of the suv. Strange times we live in. Yep If I knock a cop over with my truck and cause a boo boo I'm preparing my anus at the very least...and possibly expect a lead shower. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:25:06 AM EDT
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Haha I love this place. A cop bumped a kid so now its ok to run over kids on bikes. http://media1.giphy.com/media/b8kHKZq3YFfnq/giphy.gif Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My mom lives on a cul-de-sac. There are 4 or 5 young kids that love to ride their bikes and big wheels around the sidewalk of said cul-de-sac. In the past I have always been very careful to watch were everyone is when I back out. I have a back-up camera and sensors on my truck to help as well. But, you know, I say fuck it. I'm just gonna floor it from now on. Screw those little kids having fun riding their toys. They should be chained up in the yard so they can't get in any trouble. Who do they think they are having fun in a relatively safe cul-de-sac. Well maybe not safe anymore with deputy douche around. I wonder what will happen to me when I knock one off their bike??
Haha I love this place. A cop bumped a kid so now its ok to run over kids on bikes. http://media1.giphy.com/media/b8kHKZq3YFfnq/giphy.gif You don't recognize sarcasm when you see it? I love to see the little kids having fun. That's what they are supposed to do. The are not supposed to be run over by the people that should be protecting them from idiots.
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