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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:38:14 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Unicorn_Kommander:
I didn't hear the cops say you are under arrest. I heard him say thats it and then charge the guy, slam him into the car 15 feet away and then his pathetic attempt at ground & pound before he decided to detain him. It was obvious it was uncalled for because all the other officers had stunned looks on their faces. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Unicorn_Kommander:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By HighAltitude:
Originally Posted By K9346:
Originally Posted By GADeerHunter:
[ I'm assuming "secondary contact" was the temper tantrum that occurred after he said "fuck you". What grounds does the officer have to initiate a violent arrest after someone tells them "fuck you"? You said you'd do the same. Why? This is what I'm talking about. The officer decided to make an arrest not for the "fuck you" comment, but for interfering with another arrest after being told to leave, and then pushed away. Obviously drunk dude didn't get the message then, so cop arrests him. I seriously doubt it was for simply saying fuck you, so don't try to isolate the incident down to simply that. That's fine but slamming him up against the car, slamming him to the ground, hitting him in the face was absolutely uncalled for and he should be arrested and tried for it. There is no doubt the officer has anger issues and lost his cool. Why would you think a cop can't punch someone who is resisting arrest? I didn't hear the cops say you are under arrest. I heard him say thats it and then charge the guy, slam him into the car 15 feet away and then his pathetic attempt at ground & pound before he decided to detain him. It was obvious it was uncalled for because all the other officers had stunned looks on their faces. 
Okay, whatever you say chief. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:40:50 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
If you bull-rush me backwards 15 feet into a vehicle, then throw me on the ground and proceed to punch me when I'm on my back on the pavement and not expect me to protect myself, but instead claim I am breaking the law while doing so, you can take your law and shove it up your ass. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
If you can't handle a "fuck you" you need to find a new line of work. Yeah because that's what caused the contact from the officer. The guy was clearly interferring with an arrest, he was pushed away and continued to yell profanities. He was taken down and resisted. If you bull-rush me backwards 15 feet into a vehicle, then throw me on the ground and proceed to punch me when I'm on my back on the pavement and not expect me to protect myself, but instead claim I am breaking the law while doing so, you can take your law and shove it up your ass. Okay, the drunk resisted and wasn't just protecting himself. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:40:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Depidy_Dawg]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50:
Typical cop bs. You're a tough guy til someone does something to you and you have to go all pc to get help on your side. Wah wah insults insults *sniff* *sniff*. It is the public's business. We pay for cops judges courts and everything related. If you don't like it be a pi. And if you and your pussy cop friend from the video want to fuck people up then go enlist - seems like you guys are really tough and scary. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By cash50:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By hooligan223:
I didn't see an "angry crowd". One loud mouthed drunk yelling at the cops and the guy that got slammed was trying to calm him down and that's the thanks he gets. He only got upset and started shouting after the cop shoved him for asking a question. Just another group of young people who now have a negative opinion of the police.  BS looked like he was holding the guy getting arrested arm and asking why was he getting arrested. He was pushed away. Why do people think they have the right to know why someone is getting arrested? It's none of your business. Crowd the cops when they are taking someone into custody and get pushed and go to jail. Pretty simple. Maybe people have the right to know bc they pay for it you dumbass. Police is a public office. Really. Nice personal insult. It's none of your damn business. If you want to know that bad bail the drunk out and ask him. I wont ell you anything about a others persons arrest. You're a tough guy til someone does something to you and you have to go all pc to get help on your side. Wah wah insults insults *sniff* *sniff*. It is the public's business. We pay for cops judges courts and everything related. If you don't like it be a pi. And if you and your pussy cop friend from the video want to fuck people up then go enlist - seems like you guys are really tough and scary. Absolutely, after the fact. You may request a copy of the incident from the city records office. It is not your personal right to know at the moment the event is occurring and to demand to know why a certain thing is happening. It is between the officers and that individual. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:41:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo:
Neither one of us can really see what he was doing based on the camera angle. I am going off of experience and the sound of his voice in relation to where the mic was on the iphone. I think he was squaring up and yelling Fuck You!, not backing away. Either way, he got what he asked for. He wanted to fight that cop, the cop granted him his wish. I'm not going to argue with you that the cop probably got a bit hhot under the collar. I don't know what else to say. I knew as a drunk college kid not to engage the police like that or I'd get a beating. It seems like common sense to me. I am sure emotion played a part in all this, but I don't think that kid getting arrested wasn't justified. Yeah, he wanted to fight the cop so bad that he backed up the entire time the officer approached him up to the point he knocked him down and started hitting him. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:43:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crackshot308:
Lol, whatever you say tough cop. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crackshot308:
Originally Posted By mototard:
I didn't see an "angry crowd". One loud mouthed drunk yelling at the cops and the guy that got slammed was trying to calm him down and that's the thanks he gets. He only got upset and started shouting after the cop shoved him for asking a question. Just another group of young people who now have a negative opinion of the police.
BS looked like he was holding the guy getting arrested arm and asking why was he getting arrested. He was pushed away. Why do people think they have the right to know why someone is getting arrested? It's none of your business. Crowd the cops when they are taking someone into custody and get pushed and go to jail. Pretty simple. Lol, whatever you say tough cop. Well cupcake show me where I'm wrong. Or next time you see a cop making an arrest walk up and grab the arrestees arm and see how it goes for you. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:44:18 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Pics/Vert_zps0b9b78ba.png So, so amazing. Thank you for this. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:44:59 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Yeah, he wanted to fight the cop so bad that he backed up the entire time the officer approached him up to the point he knocked him down and started hitting him. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Neither one of us can really see what he was doing based on the camera angle. I am going off of experience and the sound of his voice in relation to where the mic was on the iphone. I think he was squaring up and yelling Fuck You!, not backing away. Either way, he got what he asked for. He wanted to fight that cop, the cop granted him his wish. I'm not going to argue with you that the cop probably got a bit hhot under the collar. I don't know what else to say. I knew as a drunk college kid not to engage the police like that or I'd get a beating. It seems like common sense to me. I am sure emotion played a part in all this, but I don't think that kid getting arrested wasn't justified. Yeah, he wanted to fight the cop so bad that he backed up the entire time the officer approached him up to the point he knocked him down and started hitting him. Yeah, drunk hero's brain was quickly wrapping itself around the fact that he was about the cash the check his mouth just wrote so he was back peddling. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:47:47 AM EDT
[#8]
I would have preferred it if the cop had stomped the shit out of the guy filming it that way, but we don't live in a perfect world.
Is what the cop did legal? Probably is. "Should it be legal" is a different question. It is one we're still working out. The nice thing about living in America is if we don't like the way police do their job, we can do something about it. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:49:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo:
Yeah, drunk hero's brain was quickly wrapping itself around the fact that he was about the cash the check his mouth just wrote so he was back peddling. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Neither one of us can really see what he was doing based on the camera angle. I am going off of experience and the sound of his voice in relation to where the mic was on the iphone. I think he was squaring up and yelling Fuck You!, not backing away. Either way, he got what he asked for. He wanted to fight that cop, the cop granted him his wish. I'm not going to argue with you that the cop probably got a bit hhot under the collar. I don't know what else to say. I knew as a drunk college kid not to engage the police like that or I'd get a beating. It seems like common sense to me. I am sure emotion played a part in all this, but I don't think that kid getting arrested wasn't justified. Yeah, he wanted to fight the cop so bad that he backed up the entire time the officer approached him up to the point he knocked him down and started hitting him. Yeah, drunk hero's brain was quickly wrapping itself around the fact that he was about the cash the check his mouth just wrote so he was back peddling. Absolutely. Which sort of makes the ensuing beat down look superfluous. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:51:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Castillo]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Absolutely. Which sort of makes the ensuing beat down look superfluous. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Neither one of us can really see what he was doing based on the camera angle. I am going off of experience and the sound of his voice in relation to where the mic was on the iphone. I think he was squaring up and yelling Fuck You!, not backing away. Either way, he got what he asked for. He wanted to fight that cop, the cop granted him his wish. I'm not going to argue with you that the cop probably got a bit hhot under the collar. I don't know what else to say. I knew as a drunk college kid not to engage the police like that or I'd get a beating. It seems like common sense to me. I am sure emotion played a part in all this, but I don't think that kid getting arrested wasn't justified. Yeah, he wanted to fight the cop so bad that he backed up the entire time the officer approached him up to the point he knocked him down and started hitting him. Yeah, drunk hero's brain was quickly wrapping itself around the fact that he was about the cash the check his mouth just wrote so he was back peddling. Absolutely. Which sort of makes the ensuing beat down look superfluous. Agree to disagree. I suppose he could have walked him out of the crowd and then tried to get him to comply and put his hands behind his back. I seriously doubt drunk hero would have complied so they would have arrived at the same conclusion. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:58:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
pushed back, no problem, clear the arrest zone, shout out a "fuck you", I don't give a fuck. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
If you can't handle a "fuck you" you need to find a new line of work. Yeah because that's what caused the contact from the officer. The guy was clearly interferring with an arrest, he was pushed away and continued to yell profanities. He was taken down and resisted. pushed back, no problem, clear the arrest zone, shout out a "fuck you", I don't give a fuck. I agree, yell at me all you want, unless you're inciting a crowd, I don't care. Grab ahold of whom I'm arresting and I'm going to take you to jail, resist that and get hurt. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:59:24 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Irrelevant. He didn't punch him for resisting arrest, he punched him for the "fuck you". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Why would you think a cop can't punch someone who is resisting arrest? Irrelevant. He didn't punch him for resisting arrest, he punched him for the "fuck you". Ok and pray tell how did you decide that? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:00:05 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reddawg318: I don't see anything wrong with it. Cop arrested one, was in the process of arresting another (not sure why) and third douche decides to get involved and crowd the cops doing their job. Cops need space to do their job without worrying about some other ----tard getting in their space and interfering. Cop pushed him away, how does the cop know that he's not handing something or getting something to/from his buddy?  |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:01:52 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GADeerHunter:
Wouldn't you grab somebody's arm if they are rushing at you with the obvious attempt to cause you bodily harm? Was he supposed to immediately fall to the ground, place his hands behind his back and yell "SORRY" as soon as the officer charged at him? Stop being so predictable. It's nauseating. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GADeerHunter:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Why not? The guy was going to jail most likely for interferring with the arrest. He was pushed away and started yelling. He was taken down. Here he could be charged with resisting arrest x2, disorderly and most likely PI too. By all means arrest the asshole if he is interfering with an arrest. But you don't get to throw punches just because he pissed you off, which is exactly what happened here.
He was resisting, looks to me he grabbed the officers arm. Good strike. Wouldn't you grab somebody's arm if they are rushing at you with the obvious attempt to cause you bodily harm? Was he supposed to immediately fall to the ground, place his hands behind his back and yell "SORRY" as soon as the officer charged at him? Stop being so predictable. It's nauseating.
If he'd walked away after the push.... But he didn't. The video will screw him in court. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:02:59 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clctr:
Uh, the Ukraine? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clctr:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Unicorn_Kommander:
Eventually people will get tired of cops behaving like this and we'll see a video of a crowd of people going full south american and beating the cops down. Its a shame it didn't happen here. No wonder so many LEO are against people carrying guns. That cop needs to go to jail for assault and the other cops with him need to lose their jobs for doing nothing to stop him. Ahh wet dreams. Where do you guys get this stupid shit from? Uh, the Ukraine? Uhhh Ok |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:08:05 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Ok and pray tell how did you decide that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Why would you think a cop can't punch someone who is resisting arrest? Irrelevant. He didn't punch him for resisting arrest, he punched him for the "fuck you". Ok and pray tell how did you decide that? I have eyes. Officer did not change the drunken idiot until the "fuck you". Idiot backed up the entire time after the officer gave him the shove. The officer had successfully disengaged the idiot from the arrest he was making but got his tempter up after the idiot let the "fuck you" fly. It's obvious if you view the video without having a prior intention of excusing the officer's behavior. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:08:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mototard]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50:
Typical cop bs. You're a tough guy til someone does something to you and you have to go all pc to get help on your side. Wah wah insults insults *sniff* *sniff*. It is the public's business. We pay for cops judges courts and everything related. If you don't like it be a pi. And if you and your pussy cop friend from the video want to fuck people up then go enlist - seems like you guys are really tough and scary. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By cash50:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By hooligan223:
I didn't see an "angry crowd". One loud mouthed drunk yelling at the cops and the guy that got slammed was trying to calm him down and that's the thanks he gets. He only got upset and started shouting after the cop shoved him for asking a question. Just another group of young people who now have a negative opinion of the police. BS looked like he was holding the guy getting arrested arm and asking why was he getting arrested. He was pushed away. Why do people think they have the right to know why someone is getting arrested? It's none of your business. Crowd the cops when they are taking someone into custody and get pushed and go to jail. Pretty simple. Maybe people have the right to know bc they pay for it you dumbass. Police is a public office. Really. Nice personal insult. It's none of your damn business. If you want to know that bad bail the drunk out and ask him. I wont ell you anything about a others persons arrest. You're a tough guy til someone does something to you and you have to go all pc to get help on your side. Wah wah insults insults *sniff* *sniff*. It is the public's business. We pay for cops judges courts and everything related. If you don't like it be a pi. And if you and your pussy cop friend from the video want to fuck people up then go enlist - seems like you guys are really tough and scary. Lol I have enlisted, see the tank. In fact I've been in two different branches. You? Fine if you want to know, go file a FIA and get the info. Most dept will fire you for giving out that type of info. Again none of your business, especially on scene. After the arrest is made nicely ask the cops. Don't be interfering when they are making an arrest. This is really simple. So how much law schoolin do you have? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:10:33 AM EDT
[#18]
Not nearly enough pepper spray in the video...
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:10:57 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
If he'd walked away after the push.... But he didn't. The video will screw him in court. Correct me if I'm wrong Mototard, but I seem to remember you saying that this officer would walk as well. http://www.startribune.com/local/north/215135261.html |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:13:05 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Bring it. Like we are worried about a bunch basement dwellers. First you'd have to come out of your moms basement. Your mom won't be able to bring you hot pockets and pizza bites outside in the mean ole world. You'd better keep your ass in the basement. I'm not sure WTF is wrong with you but damn. First, you spout this crap and then scream CoC violation when someone else calls you a dumbass. As for the vid: Good shove. Good arrest Bad method by which he conducted the take down and the "distraction strikes" are over the line. Needs some time off without pay at the very least. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:17:50 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
I have eyes. Officer did not change the drunken idiot until the "fuck you". Idiot backed up the entire time after the officer gave him the shove. The officer had successfully disengaged the idiot from the arrest he was making but got his tempter up after the idiot let the "fuck you" fly. It's obvious if you view the video without having a prior intention of excusing the officer's behavior. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Why would you think a cop can't punch someone who is resisting arrest? Irrelevant. He didn't punch him for resisting arrest, he punched him for the "fuck you". Ok and pray tell how did you decide that? I have eyes. Officer did not change the drunken idiot until the "fuck you". Idiot backed up the entire time after the officer gave him the shove. The officer had successfully disengaged the idiot from the arrest he was making but got his tempter up after the idiot let the "fuck you" fly. It's obvious if you view the video without having a prior intention of excusing the officer's behavior. Whatever you say. The pause after the shove could have been just to make sure the other guy was in cuffs. Then he went after drunk #2 because he didn't leave and was still causing problems. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:19:44 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Correct me if I'm wrong Mototard, but I seem to remember you saying that this officer would walk as well. http://www.startribune.com/local/north/215135261.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
If he'd walked away after the push.... But he didn't. The video will screw him in court. Correct me if I'm wrong Mototard, but I seem to remember you saying that this officer would walk as well. http://www.startribune.com/local/north/215135261.html Want to show me where? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:20:53 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Want to show me where? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
If he'd walked away after the push.... But he didn't. The video will screw him in court. Correct me if I'm wrong Mototard, but I seem to remember you saying that this officer would walk as well. http://www.startribune.com/local/north/215135261.html Want to show me where? No, it's far to late and I'm far too tired to look it up. If you say you didn't I believe you. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:21:22 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIgDAM:
I'm not sure WTF is wrong with you but damn. First, you spout this crap and then scream CoC violation when someone else calls you a dumbass. As for the vid: Good shove. Good arrest Bad method by which he conducted the take down and the "distraction strikes" are over the line. Needs some time off without pay at the very least. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIgDAM:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Bring it. Like we are worried about a bunch basement dwellers. First you'd have to come out of your moms basement. Your mom won't be able to bring you hot pockets and pizza bites outside in the mean ole world. You'd better keep your ass in the basement. I'm not sure WTF is wrong with you but damn. First, you spout this crap and then scream CoC violation when someone else calls you a dumbass. As for the vid: Good shove. Good arrest Bad method by which he conducted the take down and the "distraction strikes" are over the line. Needs some time off without pay at the very least. Where did I scream anything? Where did I report a COC? I simply said nice personal insult. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:24:08 AM EDT
[#25]
Where were all these sensational heroes when thousands of nut jobs were trashing the state capital.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:24:10 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
No, it's far to late and I'm far too tired to look it up. If you say you didn't I believe you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
If he'd walked away after the push.... But he didn't. The video will screw him in court. Correct me if I'm wrong Mototard, but I seem to remember you saying that this officer would walk as well. http://www.startribune.com/local/north/215135261.html Want to show me where? No, it's far to late and I'm far too tired to look it up. If you say you didn't I believe you. No way in hell did I take up for that POS. To be exact I stated, fire and charge him, and throw him under the jail. So not knowing, why would you post such BS? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:27:02 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Where did I scream anything? Where did I report a COC? I simply said nice personal insult. Right, so the point of pointing out the personal insult isn't to bring attention to the CoC violation. Sure. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:27:35 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
No way in hell did I take up for that POS. To be exact I stated, fire and charge him, and throw him under the jail. So not knowing, why would you post such BS? Just an error on my part. I do recall that there were a couple of LEOs saying that that guy would walk, and I mistakenly thought you were one of them. My apologies. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:32:37 AM EDT
[#29]
I liked the takedown though, that was pretty sweet. Looks like he has practiced that jacked-up-over-the-hood thing. Nice.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:37:41 AM EDT
[#30]
 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Just an error on my part. I do recall that there were a couple of LEOs saying that that guy would walk, and I mistakenly thought you were one of them. My apologies. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
No way in hell did I take up for that POS. To be exact I stated, fire and charge him, and throw him under the jail. So not knowing, why would you post such BS? Just an error on my part. I do recall that there were a couple of LEOs saying that that guy would walk, and I mistakenly thought you were one of them. My apologies.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:45:26 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Correct me if I'm wrong Mototard, but I seem to remember you saying that this officer would walk as well. http://www.startribune.com/local/north/215135261.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Cooper:
Originally Posted By mototard:
If he'd walked away after the push.... But he didn't. The video will screw him in court. Correct me if I'm wrong Mototard, but I seem to remember you saying that this officer would walk as well. http://www.startribune.com/local/north/215135261.html But didn't the jury in that case listen to the EXPERT'S testimony and the letters of recommendation from the other police officers? Citizens on the jury disregarded both and convicted, I'm shocked I tell you, shocked. According to many here, we citizens don't have the knowledge to understand police work but we can certainly pay salaries and benefits. I've never shirked jury duty and never will because for now it's the only way we have a voice against SOME overzealous and unlawful authorities. Probably not wise for a police officer to be too certain they will never be convicted if their actions are possibly illegal and videotaped. Never know who might be on your jury. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:08:42 AM EDT
[#32]
I'd enjoy watching that pig get run over by a bus.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:15:56 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thelom:
I'd enjoy watching that pig get run over by a bus. yeaaaaahhh |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:16:29 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thelom:
I'd enjoy watching that pig get run over by a bus. <That's real retarded, Sir.> |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:32:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Bring it. Like we are worried about a bunch basement dwellers. First you'd have to come out of your moms basement. Your mom won't be able to bring you hot pockets and pizza bites outside in the mean ole world. You'd better keep your ass in the basement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By MIDGAPATRIOT:
One day shit is gonna get really ugly. It'll be bad for all involved, but worse for some. Can't say they didn't ask for it though. Bring it. Like we are worried about a bunch basement dwellers. First you'd have to come out of your moms basement. Your mom won't be able to bring you hot pockets and pizza bites outside in the mean ole world. You'd better keep your ass in the basement. You should really think about toning this shit down. There are a lot of fence sitters on this board. You might be rambo, but in another state another guy just trying to do his job might be getting his ass handed to him on the side of the road and a guy that would normally stop and help might keep going because you are convincing him that anyone who wears a badge is an asshole. This isnt the only thread where it has happened. Might want to think about it a bit. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:08:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mototard]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QP031:
You should really think about toning this shit down. There are a lot of fence sitters on this board. You might be rambo, but in another state another guy just trying to do his job might be getting his ass handed to him on the side of the road and a guy that would normally stop and help might keep going because you are convincing him that anyone who wears a badge is an asshole. This isnt the only thread where it has happened. Might want to think about it a bit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QP031:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By MIDGAPATRIOT:
One day shit is gonna get really ugly. It'll be bad for all involved, but worse for some. Can't say they didn't ask for it though. Bring it. Like we are worried about a bunch basement dwellers. First you'd have to come out of your moms basement. Your mom won't be able to bring you hot pockets and pizza bites outside in the mean ole world. You'd better keep your ass in the basement. You should really think about toning this shit down. There are a lot of fence sitters on this board. You might be rambo, but in another state another guy just trying to do his job might be getting his ass handed to him on the side of the road and a guy that would normally stop and help might keep going because you are convincing him that anyone who wears a badge is an asshole. This isnt the only thread where it has happened. Might want to think about it a bit. So your going to ask me to tone it down and ignore the post about shooting cops or running over them with a bus or shit getting ugly? Like I said, bring it, all this talk of killing/beating cops is getting out of hand, if you want to sympathize with them fine, I don't care. Mods/staff letting it go is ruining this site. I've been here for a minute or two (as you have too) and it's gotten way out of hand lately. Hell we even have a mod that trolls these threads. If my post of "bring it" in reply to killing/harming cops convinces someone not to help a cop in need, they didn't need any convincing, they already made their decision. Psssst by the way, your agenda is showing. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:25:40 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
let's see, PI , interference with public duties, resisting arrest, & disorderly conduct? yeah i'm okay with that beatdown  |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:40:10 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
So your going to ask me to tone it down and ignore the post about shooting cops or running over them with a bus or shit getting ugly? Like I said, bring it, all this talk of killing/beating cops is getting out of hand, if you want to sympathize with them fine, I don't care. Mods/staff letting it go is ruining this site. I've been here for a minute or two (as you have too) and it's gotten way out of hand lately. Hell we even have a mod that trolls these threads. If my post of "bring it" in reply to killing/harming cops convinces someone not to help a cop in need, they didn't need any convincing, they already made their decision. Psssst by the way, your agenda is showing. The shit from both sides of this little purse fight is fucking horrible, so don't pretend it's just the anti LE side saying shitty things. Mods and staff come down on the leo haters far more then they do on the "I'd love to shoot a monther fucker" leo posts. They need to come down on anyone who posts these things and get on this whole insulting one another over everything. Almost every LEO/MIL guy on this board jumps on the basement dweller insult. Then you get the other side who wants to throw the JBT shit around everytime we discuss the actions of police. It's all getting very old very fast and no side is not smeared with the bullshit. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:52:25 AM EDT
[#39]
I can't tell from the angle but its extremely possible that the 2nd kid had actually broken the plane between the arresting officer and the arrestee. That could be considered interfering with arrest.
If you've never tried to do a job with 5, 10, or 15 drunks standing most of which are friends with the arestee then you have no idea what is happening there. That second guy was flirting with causing a small riot by piping off the "what did he do.....what did he do." over and over. The more he repeats that and the more you allow that situation to continue the closer you become to having to deal with a large group while outnumbered. Quick decisive action showing that everyone else in the group will get the same if they react is sometimes necessary. I won't say the officer was right but I will say that the 2nd kid was way too close to the arrest and most people I know would not have allowed him in that close in the first place. Had he refused to back up then he would have ended up in the patrol car for interfering. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:20:04 AM EDT
[#40]
Isolated incident.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:45:01 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lunyou:
I can't tell from the angle but its extremely possible that the 2nd kid had actually broken the plane between the arresting officer and the arrestee. That could be considered interfering with arrest. If you've never tried to do a job with 5, 10, or 15 drunks standing most of which are friends with the arestee then you have no idea what is happening there. That second guy was flirting with causing a small riot by piping off the "what did he do.....what did he do." over and over. The more he repeats that and the more you allow that situation to continue the closer you become to having to deal with a large group while outnumbered. Quick decisive action showing that everyone else in the group will get the same if they react is sometimes necessary. I won't say the officer was right but I will say that the 2nd kid was way too close to the arrest and most people I know would not have allowed him in that close in the first place. Had he refused to back up then he would have ended up in the patrol car for interfering. No way, it's all about the JBThuggery GD has explained there is no other option. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:47:15 AM EDT
[#42]
It APPEARS to me that there are other officers not directly involved in the arrest standing around so why did officer hurtfeelings leave the suspect he was arresting to go after mr. foulmouth rather than tell another officer(s) to arrest him?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:52:58 AM EDT
[#43]
Assuming the guy had in fact committed a crime that warranted arrest (a big assumption) how is the cop supposed to put him in handcuffs if he isn't compliant? say "pretty please"?
That said, it appears the cop went hands on immediately by rushing him and slamming him into a car instead of just trying to handcuff him, then when it turned into a struggle there were easily enough cops around for him to be handcuffed without all the punching. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:35:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mototard]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIgDAM:
The shit from both sides of this little purse fight is fucking horrible, so don't pretend it's just the anti LE side saying shitty things. Mods and staff come down on the leo haters far more then they do on the "I'd love to shoot a monther fucker" leo posts. They need to come down on anyone who posts these things and get on this whole insulting one another over everything. Almost every LEO/MIL guy on this board jumps on the basement dweller insult. Then you get the other side who wants to throw the JBT shit around everytime we discuss the actions of police. It's all getting very old very fast and no side is not smeared with the bullshit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIgDAM:
Originally Posted By mototard:
So your going to ask me to tone it down and ignore the post about shooting cops or running over them with a bus or shit getting ugly? Like I said, bring it, all this talk of killing/beating cops is getting out of hand, if you want to sympathize with them fine, I don't care. Mods/staff letting it go is ruining this site. I've been here for a minute or two (as you have too) and it's gotten way out of hand lately. Hell we even have a mod that trolls these threads. If my post of "bring it" in reply to killing/harming cops convinces someone not to help a cop in need, they didn't need any convincing, they already made their decision. Psssst by the way, your agenda is showing. The shit from both sides of this little purse fight is fucking horrible, so don't pretend it's just the anti LE side saying shitty things. Mods and staff come down on the leo haters far more then they do on the "I'd love to shoot a monther fucker" leo posts. They need to come down on anyone who posts these things and get on this whole insulting one another over everything. Almost every LEO/MIL guy on this board jumps on the basement dweller insult. Then you get the other side who wants to throw the JBT shit around everytime we discuss the actions of police. It's all getting very old very fast and no side is not smeared with the bullshit. Where did I say it's only the anti LE? In fact I agree with you 100%. I'm a sarcastic SOB, especially when it comes to stupidity, don't have a clue but talking as if you know BS. As when a arfcop says needs more info. We're not siding with anyone, there's clearly not enough info to make a rational decision. Then every " basement" dweller starts screaming JBT, no cop can do wrong In your eyes, TBL etc etc. Most arfcops, again MOST are Constitution loving, take the oath serious, fight for our rights guys. They post from experience and real world, been there done that views. Half of GD refuses to acknowledge that and gets their panties all bunched up and starts wet dreaming about harming LEOs/anarchy. It's hard to take these some ole idiots seriously. But that's why I post in GD, I need a good laugh and this place is full of it. We have so many keyboard commandos that GD itself could solve all the worlds problems, or so they think. Most of the us vs them attitude isn't coming from arfcops. There's a lot that claim to be LE and post as LE that nobody really knows if they're LE. Do you have a link to these post where arfcops have said "I'd love to shoot a motherfucker"? You put it in quotes so please give me a link to this quote. I bet you can't. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:29:09 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nobodyg17:
It's always nice to see Bama and others like him in these threads. They usually seem way outnumbered though. I swear there is a JBT blue light and siren that wails and flashes when these threads are posted. There is always such a tidal wave of people tripping around trying to get their jackboots pulled on so they can pile into the MRAP of oppression. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nobodyg17:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
If you can't handle a "fuck you" you need to find a new line of work. Yeah because that's what caused the contact from the officer. The guy was clearly interferring with an arrest, he was pushed away and continued to yell profanities. He was taken down and resisted. pushed back, no problem, clear the arrest zone, shout out a "fuck you", I don't give a fuck. It's always nice to see Bama and others like him in these threads. They usually seem way outnumbered though. I swear there is a JBT blue light and siren that wails and flashes when these threads are posted. There is always such a tidal wave of people tripping around trying to get their jackboots pulled on so they can pile into the MRAP of oppression. Some folks here may not like how I would have handled it either. I would be pushing the crowd back to allow the arresting officers room to work and put a buffer zone between the action and the crowd. I have seen more than one person walk themselves into a resisting arrest charge for tying to prevent the lawful arrest of another person. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:38:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: chadjetlag]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
If you bull-rush me backwards 15 feet into a vehicle, then throw me on the ground and proceed to punch me when I'm on my back on the pavement and not expect me to protect myself, but instead claim I am breaking the law while doing so, you can take your law and shove it up your ass. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
If you can't handle a "fuck you" you need to find a new line of work. Yeah because that's what caused the contact from the officer. The guy was clearly interferring with an arrest, he was pushed away and continued to yell profanities. He was taken down and resisted. If you bull-rush me backwards 15 feet into a vehicle, then throw me on the ground and proceed to punch me when I'm on my back on the pavement and not expect me to protect myself, but instead claim I am breaking the law while doing so, you can take your law and shove it up your ass. Good push away, and no problem with a D and D arrest. Big problem with a cop that loses control of himself so easily and over something so petty. Pro- tip I have learned from arfcom. You are supposed to remain perfectly still as you are slammed into a car, then onto the ground. Don't move instinctually as closed fist blows are rained down upon your face and head from an obviously out of control officer. Who knows when he will decide to stop distracting you but dammit don't move. As I said before that officer will be in the news again, whether he kills someone or is caught distracting his wife or kids...he's got issues. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:50:18 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag:
Goo push away, and no problem with a D and D arrest. Big problem with a cop that loses control of himself so easily and over something so petty. Pro- tip I have learned from arfcom. You are supposed to remain perfectly still as you are slammed into a car, then onto the ground. Don't move instinctually as closed fist blows are rained down upon your face and head from an obviously out of control officer. Who knows when he will decide to stop distracting you but dammit don't move. As I said before that officer will be in the news again, whether he kills someone or is caught distracting his wife or kids...he's got issues. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag:
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
If you can't handle a "fuck you" you need to find a new line of work. Yeah because that's what caused the contact from the officer. The guy was clearly interferring with an arrest, he was pushed away and continued to yell profanities. He was taken down and resisted. If you bull-rush me backwards 15 feet into a vehicle, then throw me on the ground and proceed to punch me when I'm on my back on the pavement and not expect me to protect myself, but instead claim I am breaking the law while doing so, you can take your law and shove it up your ass. Goo push away, and no problem with a D and D arrest. Big problem with a cop that loses control of himself so easily and over something so petty. Pro- tip I have learned from arfcom. You are supposed to remain perfectly still as you are slammed into a car, then onto the ground. Don't move instinctually as closed fist blows are rained down upon your face and head from an obviously out of control officer. Who knows when he will decide to stop distracting you but dammit don't move. As I said before that officer will be in the news again, whether he kills someone or is caught distracting his wife or kids...he's got issues. I've fought, hit, punched, elbowed, kicked knee'd plenty of suspects. I never struck one that wasnt resist. If you follow commands you're safe. Act like an idiot, refused to back off, have to be shoved off whom I'm arresting expect it to get ugly. Bow up, get taken down, resist while being taken down, you're liable to get hurt. Did y'all not notice the other people just standing there didn't get thrown against a car and taken to the ground? I wonder why that is? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:54:07 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
I've fought, hit, punched, elbowed, kicked knee'd plenty of suspects. I never struck one that wasnt resist. If you follow commands you're safe. Act like an idiot, refused to back off, have to be shoved off whom I'm arresting expect it to get ugly. Bow up, get taken down, resist while being taken down, you're liable to get hurt. Did y'all not notice the other people just standing there didn't get thrown against a car and taken to the ground? I wonder why that is? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By chadjetlag:
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
If you can't handle a "fuck you" you need to find a new line of work. Yeah because that's what caused the contact from the officer. The guy was clearly interferring with an arrest, he was pushed away and continued to yell profanities. He was taken down and resisted. If you bull-rush me backwards 15 feet into a vehicle, then throw me on the ground and proceed to punch me when I'm on my back on the pavement and not expect me to protect myself, but instead claim I am breaking the law while doing so, you can take your law and shove it up your ass. Goo push away, and no problem with a D and D arrest. Big problem with a cop that loses control of himself so easily and over something so petty. Pro- tip I have learned from arfcom. You are supposed to remain perfectly still as you are slammed into a car, then onto the ground. Don't move instinctually as closed fist blows are rained down upon your face and head from an obviously out of control officer. Who knows when he will decide to stop distracting you but dammit don't move. As I said before that officer will be in the news again, whether he kills someone or is caught distracting his wife or kids...he's got issues. I've fought, hit, punched, elbowed, kicked knee'd plenty of suspects. I never struck one that wasnt resist. If you follow commands you're safe. Act like an idiot, refused to back off, have to be shoved off whom I'm arresting expect it to get ugly. Bow up, get taken down, resist while being taken down, you're liable to get hurt. Did y'all not notice the other people just standing there didn't get thrown against a car and taken to the ground? I wonder why that is? Because they didn't make the officer's feelings of inadequacy and anger management problems become public and apparent to all. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:08:49 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag:
Because they didn't make the officer's feelings of inadequacy and anger management problems become public and apparent to all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By chadjetlag:
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Yeah because that's what caused the contact from the officer. The guy was clearly interferring with an arrest, he was pushed away and continued to yell profanities. He was taken down and resisted. If you bull-rush me backwards 15 feet into a vehicle, then throw me on the ground and proceed to punch me when I'm on my back on the pavement and not expect me to protect myself, but instead claim I am breaking the law while doing so, you can take your law and shove it up your ass. Goo push away, and no problem with a D and D arrest. Big problem with a cop that loses control of himself so easily and over something so petty. Pro- tip I have learned from arfcom. You are supposed to remain perfectly still as you are slammed into a car, then onto the ground. Don't move instinctually as closed fist blows are rained down upon your face and head from an obviously out of control officer. Who knows when he will decide to stop distracting you but dammit don't move. As I said before that officer will be in the news again, whether he kills someone or is caught distracting his wife or kids...he's got issues. I've fought, hit, punched, elbowed, kicked knee'd plenty of suspects. I never struck one that wasnt resist. If you follow commands you're safe. Act like an idiot, refused to back off, have to be shoved off whom I'm arresting expect it to get ugly. Bow up, get taken down, resist while being taken down, you're liable to get hurt. Did y'all not notice the other people just standing there didn't get thrown against a car and taken to the ground? I wonder why that is? Because they didn't make the officer's feelings of inadequacy and anger management problems become public and apparent to all. Funny I heard other people yelling, I even heard the word "fuck/ what did he do"coming from multiple bystanders. Why weren't they thrown to the ground too. Hint they didn't try to physically hinder the cops while they were arresting someone. Here you can be charged with resisting arrest for interferring/resisting someone else's arrest. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:35:08 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
So your going to ask me to tone it down and ignore the post about shooting cops or running over them with a bus or shit getting ugly? Like I said, bring it, all this talk of killing/beating cops is getting out of hand, if you want to sympathize with them fine, I don't care. Mods/staff letting it go is ruining this site. I've been here for a minute or two (as you have too) and it's gotten way out of hand lately. Hell we even have a mod that trolls these threads. If my post of "bring it" in reply to killing/harming cops convinces someone not to help a cop in need, they didn't need any convincing, they already made their decision. Psssst by the way, your agenda is showing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By QP031:
Originally Posted By mototard:
Originally Posted By MIDGAPATRIOT:
One day shit is gonna get really ugly. It'll be bad for all involved, but worse for some. Can't say they didn't ask for it though. Bring it. Like we are worried about a bunch basement dwellers. First you'd have to come out of your moms basement. Your mom won't be able to bring you hot pockets and pizza bites outside in the mean ole world. You'd better keep your ass in the basement. You should really think about toning this shit down. There are a lot of fence sitters on this board. You might be rambo, but in another state another guy just trying to do his job might be getting his ass handed to him on the side of the road and a guy that would normally stop and help might keep going because you are convincing him that anyone who wears a badge is an asshole. This isnt the only thread where it has happened. Might want to think about it a bit. So your going to ask me to tone it down and ignore the post about shooting cops or running over them with a bus or shit getting ugly? Like I said, bring it, all this talk of killing/beating cops is getting out of hand, if you want to sympathize with them fine, I don't care. Mods/staff letting it go is ruining this site. I've been here for a minute or two (as you have too) and it's gotten way out of hand lately. Hell we even have a mod that trolls these threads. If my post of "bring it" in reply to killing/harming cops convinces someone not to help a cop in need, they didn't need any convincing, they already made their decision. Psssst by the way, your agenda is showing. I don't think what I wrote and you read the same thing |
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