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Posted: 4/20/2014 9:40:54 AM EDT
In Puerto Rico, 45 percent of the population lives in poverty, and the unemployment rate is a solid 15 percent.

Those numbers aren't a good sign for any area of the United States, least of all an island whose name translates to “Rich Port.” But after years of recession, Puerto Rico's debt crisis finally seems to have reached a day of reckoning.

Officials have opened a public campaign to field ideas for how to fix the crisis once and for all.

A government website is accepting suggestions, and close to 400 ideas have been submitted. At least 150 have been accepted by a government committee for consideration. Among the ideas to be considered are calls legalize marijuana and prostitution, and to drastically cut back the amount of public holidays that workers on the island celebrate.

http://fusion.net/leadership/story/puerto-rico-legalizing-prostitution-marijuana-fix-debt-crisis-586448
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That is one way to increase tourism.
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Get both !
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hell yeah lol

hookers and blow sticky icky icky
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I like whores as much as the next guy but why can't they just spend less?
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double down, go for gambling too
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I'm going to be following developments closely...
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Because it's an island full of FSA who leech off American tax dollars, yet pay no taxes to the US.

Fuck them.

They might as well get both if they are going to do it.
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in true arfcom fashion!
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Because it's an island full of FSA who leech off American tax dollars, yet pay no taxes to the US.

Fuck them.

They might alas well get both if they are going to do it.
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Because it's an island full of FSA who leech off American tax dollars, yet pay no taxes to the US.

Fuck them.

They might alas well get both if they are going to do it.


They do pay federal payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare.
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 10:00:51 AM EDT
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legalize and tax vices. Trying to control morality through prohibition is retarded.
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Because it's an island full of FSA who leech off American tax dollars, yet pay no taxes to the US.

Fuck them.

They might alas well get both if they are going to do it.
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Because it's an island full of FSA who leech off American tax dollars, yet pay no taxes to the US.

Fuck them.

They might alas well get both if they are going to do it.

this
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Have you been there?  Everyone that is employed wears a badge, anyone that isn't is sucking on the government tit.  Their politicians are as corrupt as anywhere else, just without a tax base to loot from.  There is not common sense of working hard or getting anything done.  Generally slothful and wasteful behavior is the norm.

Any infrastructure left to them by the Feds/Military quickly turns to shit.  The only thing that island has going for it is Bacardi and tourism in San Juan, but PR "pride" prevents them from selling priceless vacation spots to major developers.  The same "pride" that made them want the Navy to close its base.

If it wasn't a territory then I imagine some guy in a uniform with 4 stars on each shoulder would have claimed himself ruler by now and the population would be a fraction of what it currently is due to starvation, disease and general upheaval.
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Legalizing either for taxation purposes will not solve their debt problem.

Just like it wouldn't solve out debt problem.

The problem isn't taxation...we collect plenty of taxes.

The problem is over-spending.
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Have you been there?  Everyone that is employed wears a badge, anyone that isn't is sucking on the government tit.  Their politicians are as corrupt as anywhere else, just without a tax base to loot from.  There is not common sense of working hard or getting anything done.  Generally slothful and wasteful behavior is the norm.

Any infrastructure left to them by the Feds/Military quickly turns to shit.  The only thing that island has going for it is Bacardi and tourism in San Juan, but PR "pride" prevents them from selling priceless vacation spots to major developers.  The same "pride" that made them want the Navy to close its base.

If it wasn't a territory then I imagine some guy in a uniform with 4 stars on each shoulder would have claimed himself ruler by now and the population would be a fraction of what it currently is due to starvation, disease and general upheaval.
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Have you been there?  Everyone that is employed wears a badge, anyone that isn't is sucking on the government tit.  Their politicians are as corrupt as anywhere else, just without a tax base to loot from.  There is not common sense of working hard or getting anything done.  Generally slothful and wasteful behavior is the norm.

Any infrastructure left to them by the Feds/Military quickly turns to shit.  The only thing that island has going for it is Bacardi and tourism in San Juan, but PR "pride" prevents them from selling priceless vacation spots to major developers.  The same "pride" that made them want the Navy to close its base.

If it wasn't a territory then I imagine some guy in a uniform with 4 stars on each shoulder would have claimed himself ruler by now and the population would be a fraction of what it currently is due to starvation, disease and general upheaval.

They didn't want Rosey closed.  In fact they were a little shocked when the base closed after its reason for being got shut down.
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I'm sensing a career opportunity for the right enterprising officer...
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They didn't want Rosey closed.  In fact they were a little shocked when the base closed after its reason for being got shut down.
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Have you been there?  Everyone that is employed wears a badge, anyone that isn't is sucking on the government tit.  Their politicians are as corrupt as anywhere else, just without a tax base to loot from.  There is not common sense of working hard or getting anything done.  Generally slothful and wasteful behavior is the norm.

Any infrastructure left to them by the Feds/Military quickly turns to shit.  The only thing that island has going for it is Bacardi and tourism in San Juan, but PR "pride" prevents them from selling priceless vacation spots to major developers.  The same "pride" that made them want the Navy to close its base.

If it wasn't a territory then I imagine some guy in a uniform with 4 stars on each shoulder would have claimed himself ruler by now and the population would be a fraction of what it currently is due to starvation, disease and general upheaval.

They didn't want Rosey closed.  In fact they were a little shocked when the base closed after its reason for being got shut down.


Which They?  The few that understand how to mooch off a military base?  Or the ones that still refuse to speak English out of spite but love cleaning out the class VI and feeding themselves with food stamps?

If my disdain for PR is bleeding through.....well that would be my disdain for PR.
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 10:23:58 AM EDT
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Hell, I thought prostitution was legal there. They certainly didn't hide it when I was there in the early 70's. Cat houses were out in the open. They were called clubs, one advertised "25 lovely hostesses continuously on duty"
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 10:25:32 AM EDT
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Puerto Rico = America's Greece
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If only Hawaiians had enough pride to have done the same, real estate might still be affordable, its bad when the majority of homeowners are haoles in California or japanese businessmen.
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I like whores as much as the next guy but why can't they just spend less?



Have you been there?  Everyone that is employed wears a badge, anyone that isn't is sucking on the government tit.  Their politicians are as corrupt as anywhere else, just without a tax base to loot from.  There is not common sense of working hard or getting anything done.  Generally slothful and wasteful behavior is the norm.

Any infrastructure left to them by the Feds/Military quickly turns to shit.  The only thing that island has going for it is Bacardi and tourism in San Juan, but PR "pride" prevents them from selling priceless vacation spots to major developers.  The same "pride" that made them want the Navy to close its base.

If it wasn't a territory then I imagine some guy in a uniform with 4 stars on each shoulder would have claimed himself ruler by now and the population would be a fraction of what it currently is due to starvation, disease and general upheaval.

They didn't want Rosey closed.  In fact they were a little shocked when the base closed after its reason for being got shut down.

Some of them sure are shit did, it wasn't ALL people who didn't live there protesting the Navy presence.
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I am sure Greece didn't have a big brother paying millions to its citizens, which causes the continual cycle of dependency on the government.
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 10:53:36 AM EDT
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The US wanted PR. It's not going anywhere. Get used to that. If anything, it will be a state. That is how the last plebiscite turned out.

The last Governor was a Republican. He cut spending, his staff, his salary and number of .gov workers.
They voted him out.

As usual, they are looking to raise money instead of cutting expenses.

What some here don't understand is that yes, there are FSA there, there are also plenty of douchebag companies (Eagle-makes tactical shit- comes to mind) who pay a very low wage there and tell the workers "Hey, go get food stamps".
Many PRs work very hard. And the food stamps they get are much less "dollar" wise than here.

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I think it would be a great idea for Puerto Rico. Make it a tropical Amsterdam.

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Reopen the Black Angus!  Woot!
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I was a kid. I dreamed of one day being able to go there.
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I was a kid. I dreamed of one day being able to go there.

And the Riviera Club.
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I am sure Greece didn't have a big brother paying millions to its citizens, which causes the continual cycle of dependency on the government.

Well the US wanted Puerto Rico and congrats you got it
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HeLL yeah it will
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I am sure Greece didn't have a big brother paying millions to its citizens, which causes the continual cycle of dependency on the government.


I was thinking more along the lines of the whole Perpetual Bail Out/Tourist Trap/Sex For Hire With Dark Complexioned Women cycle.
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Legalizing either for taxation purposes will not solve their debt problem.

Just like it wouldn't solve out debt problem.

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The problem is over-spending.
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been to PR many times.  each time it looks more and more like DC.
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Have you see the results of elections in this country the last 10-20 years?



That island is full of the same voter(s)



 
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I work with tons of Puerto Ricans and they all go on about how bad it's gotten.

Apparently safety there has really declined over the past ten years.
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I work with tons of Puerto Ricans and they all go on about how bad it's gotten.

Apparently safety there has really declined over the past ten years.
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I work with tons of Puerto Ricans and they all go on about how bad it's gotten.

Apparently safety there has really declined over the past ten years.


None of my PR friends recommend women traveling to the Island unescorted, and only then in tourist areas.
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whoa.  you should be someone important.
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Genius move. The whores would bring tourists and probably a Sharpie factory.
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The US wanted PR. It's not going anywhere. Get used to that. If anything, it will be a state. That is how the last plebiscite turned out.

The last Governor was a Republican. He cut spending, his staff, his salary and number of .gov workers.
They voted him out.

As usual, they are looking to raise money instead of cutting expenses.

What some here don't understand is that yes, there are FSA there, there are also plenty of douchebag companies (Eagle-makes tactical shit- comes to mind) who pay a very low wage there and tell the workers "Hey, go get food stamps".
Many PRs work very hard. And the food stamps they get are much less "dollar" wise than here.

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Wait a second!  I thought ARFCOM's stance on low wages was to quit if you don't like the wages, free market, and all that.
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None of my PR friends recommend women traveling to the Island unescorted, and only then in tourist areas.
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I work with tons of Puerto Ricans and they all go on about how bad it's gotten.

Apparently safety there has really declined over the past ten years.


None of my PR friends recommend women traveling to the Island unescorted, and only then in tourist areas.


Fine out in small towns. Fine in touristy areas. in the inner city areas, nope.
Though, I did get on a bus with my wife and we went through huge housing project. No problem.
There is an art to it. Not recommended.  My little Alabama farm girl wife was astonished.
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Yeah, legal hookers.
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Wait a second!  I thought ARFCOM's stance on low wages was to quit if you don't like the wages, free market, and all that.
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The US wanted PR. It's not going anywhere. Get used to that. If anything, it will be a state. That is how the last plebiscite turned out.

The last Governor was a Republican. He cut spending, his staff, his salary and number of .gov workers.
They voted him out.

As usual, they are looking to raise money instead of cutting expenses.

What some here don't understand is that yes, there are FSA there, there are also plenty of douchebag companies (Eagle-makes tactical shit- comes to mind) who pay a very low wage there and tell the workers "Hey, go get food stamps".
Many PRs work very hard. And the food stamps they get are much less "dollar" wise than here.



Wait a second!  I thought ARFCOM's stance on low wages was to quit if you don't like the wages, free market, and all that.


My cousin lives there. He had a good job but they wanted him to relocate. He didn't want to so he quit.
Started a carpet cleaning business. He's doing very well and working very hard.

Some people will take a low paying job as they feel they have no choices. It's hard to find a job in PR.
I remember as a teenager trying to find part time work in PR. Couldn't do it. So, I spent my summers in Alabama cutting grass and washing dishes.
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i see what you did there.
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Yeah hookers and dro!
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Any step towards libertarianism would benefit them  however small.
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Hell yeah, the trifecta.
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I remember one called "Lucky 7's" and another one that had some sort of a bull icon on its front sign.  Puerto Rico, it was pretty much just like Panama, but you could eat at Denny's.......

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Stop spending more money than the government gets and turn it into a place where people actually want to be?



Just kidding.

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I remember one called "Lucky 7's" and another one that had some sort of a bull icon on its front sign.  Puerto Rico, it was pretty much just like Panama, but you could eat at Denny's.......

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Hell, I thought prostitution was legal there. They certainly didn't hide it when I was there in the early 70's. Cat houses were out in the open. They were called clubs, one advertised "25 lovely hostesses continuously on duty"


I remember one called "Lucky 7's" and another one that had some sort of a bull icon on its front sign.  Puerto Rico, it was pretty much just like Panama, but you could eat at Denny's.......


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