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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:07:01 PM EDT
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I just wanna know where NYMEX crude opens tomorrow night.... i sure hope it's up big.... took a contract long over the wknd.. Paulson? Is that you? |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:10:40 PM EDT
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Deleted. Already covered.
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:13:44 PM EDT
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Think we still get somewhere around 10- 15% for consumption from them. Our main suppliers are Canada and Venezuela. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When was the US ever dependent on Saudi oil? We don't use high sulfur content crude oil. Europe and Asia were dependent on Saudi oil. We secured their interest for them. Think we still get somewhere around 10- 15% for consumption from them. Our main suppliers are Canada and Venezuela. Correct: http://www.api.org/publications-standards-and-statistics/~/media/Files/News/2014/14-March/13-Dec-Imports.pdf |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:20:26 PM EDT
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Department of energy says your numbers are wrong. But it's splitting hairs but even with your numbers we get less than 11 percent of all our oil from Saudi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Think we still get somewhere around 10- 15% for consumption from them. Our main suppliers are Canada and Venezuela. Our main suppliers are Canada and Saudi Arabia. Incorrect. http://www.infoplease.com/science/energy/us-oil-imports.html http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm Department of energy says your numbers are wrong. But it's splitting hairs but even with your numbers we get less than 11 percent of all our oil from Saudi. What I posted IS from the DOE. What you posted is from 2008. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:27:59 PM EDT
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So, could someone tell me why the hell gas has gone up over 40 cents a gallon in the last month. And don't tell me it's cuz the summer blend changes the price....................................................... 
Gas hasn't gone up. Dollar has gone down. TC |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:29:51 PM EDT
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Gas hasn't gone up. Dollar has gone down. TC Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, could someone tell me why the hell gas has gone up over 40 cents a gallon in the last month. And don't tell me it's cuz the summer blend changes the price.......................................................
Gas hasn't gone up. Dollar has gone down. TC We can drill a well in 5-20 days on average. Building pipelines takes the longest. Shipping it by truck costs money. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:33:20 PM EDT
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Building pipelines takes the longest. Shipping it by truck costs money. But, shipping it by rail makes Warren Buffett more money... 
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:43:36 PM EDT
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The idea that we are replacing Saudi oil with shale oil is fantasy. We still import 2/3 rds of the oil we consume. I know a player in the crude oil xport business. Its still cheaper to haul foreign oil via tanker up to the refinery, on the east coast anyway. I'm no commie or a obummer supporter but the kingdom of Saud has owned american presidents since the tail end of the Reagan era. No pipeline approval, no approving of off shore rigs (oblamo)and more importantly, EPA not allowing the building of new refineries (oblammo and bushes) The newest ones are 40 years old. In the midwest there's thousands of gallons of unrefined oil sitting in the middle of nowhere. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:48:52 PM EDT
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Imagine if one day we break the leash of the whole oil industry and go nuclear and solar.
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:53:48 PM EDT
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Imagine if one day we break the leash of the whole oil industry and go nuclear and solar. Nuclear is viable. Solar is a fucking joke with current tech. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:57:56 PM EDT
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They ought to be nervous. They know the only thing that somehow elevates them in world opinion from the goat-fucking misogynistic murdering terrorist fucks that they are, is oil. When we figure out a better energy source OPEC will be relegated to turning their oil into roofing compounds and cheap flip flops. And the world will treat them as they deserve to be treated.
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:59:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLeaning over to get a medal put around your neck is not the same as bowing in submission. Nice try though. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:59:38 PM EDT
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Oil, oil everywhere. Yet I am paying $3.89 a gallon for gas. Thank you Barack Fucking Hussein Obama for once again kicking the Keystone pipeline decision until after another election you mongrel.
Gas was $1.89 a gallon a week before that POS was elected. I hope he gets aggressive cancer that eats his colon out. In other news, the price of beef is skyrocketing as the BLM tries to put America's cattle ranchers out of business. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 8:01:03 PM EDT
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They ought to be nervous. They know the only thing that somehow elevates them in world opinion from the goat-fucking misogynistic murdering terrorist fucks that they are, is oil. When we figure out a better energy source OPEC will be relegated to turning their oil into roofing compounds and cheap flip flops. And the world will treat them as they deserve to be treated. There is always goat herding. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 8:32:40 PM EDT
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Imagine if one day we break the leash of the whole oil industry and go nuclear and solar. That would be great. I look forward to driving my Delorean powered by Mr.Fusion. The automobile, trucking, and home heating oil in the North East is what I think will keep the oil industry going for the foreseeable future. Cars might be able to transition to either natural gas (of some flavor - LNG/LPG) with relative ease, but even that will need a distribution network equal to that of gasoline to be built by private industry. And there you have a chicken/egg issue with supply and demand. We won't see the distribution network built until it can be profitable (there is a demand - a lot of vehicles) and we won't see a lot of LNG/LPG vehicles until the fuel is commonly available. Stored electric for cars won't be practical until there is a huge breakthrough in the ratio of battery capacity to size and weight. Self-generated electricity might work - fuel cells - but again needs a big tech breakthrough, AND a fuel distro network to run them. Or the aforementioned "Mr. Fusion" Trucks - same issue as cars, multiplied by need for the increased power requirement to move heavier loads. So that leaves home heating oil. The sensible thing would be for all those to convert to natural gas. But that requires a significant outlay of cash. For people who have a hard time paying for their oil heat, even harder to pay to rip out oil furnaces, buy gas furnaces, and pay to get them installed and their homes piped for gas. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 8:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryArab friends hold hands. Subservient individuals bow. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 3:19:15 AM EDT
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Sure we do. Not every crude is East Texas Sweet. Talco crude has 0.7+ sulfur and Exxon's refinery in Baytown loved it. I can't remember what WTI is but some of Oklahoma's crude is high/higher. Blend it with condensate though and you can lower the sulfur. Take Talco crude and blend with condensate and it will lower your sulfur and raise your gravity. Now you can sale a 36 to 43 gravity oil with a 0.41 to 0.45 sulfur instead of a 19 to 22 gravity with a 0.7+ sulfur.
Gas cost more because of many variables, cost from crude production in the field to the tariffs that pipeline companies charge to move each barrel to a refinery or trucking charges to haul it there. The cost of refining it to the cost to pipeline or truck it to tank stations where trucks load it to send to the gas stations. In these cost you have not only the cost of running a company, but you have all the continually rising cost of permits and govt compliance. Factor all that in with taxes that the govt has added to it and it keeps going up. Finally we have have speculators who buy and sale it whose main goal is to make $ and never leave an office. I can't remember the exact amount but I read that the govt charges a higher tax than an oil company makes off of a gallon of gas. Edit- The reason for the blend is it allows more refineries to take it. Many refineries aren't set up to take in high sulfur crude. Don't get the blend right and you've just contaminated a tank. Refineries tend to get pissy about such things. Hell as a pipeline company we throw a gasket when folks send us crude that contaminates a tank. Then we spend lots of money blending it out. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 4:02:33 AM EDT
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I've asked ME congress critters a question, NO RESPONSE. ?? If Saudi/Qatar et all are seriously interested in a trans Syrian pipeline, has there been any talks/negotiations with the Syrian government regarding
pipeline building agreement. Crickets? |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 4:05:12 AM EDT
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The idea that we are replacing Saudi oil with shale oil is fantasy. We still import 2/3 rds of the oil we consume. Pretty sure we're still exporting more than we're importing............but most is coming from South America............ |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 4:12:03 AM EDT
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Maine (ME) is rumored to have massive oil/gas reserves. Two wells drilled 1 Ashland @ 1982, hit gas 32-34k ft level, would have been developable at that time @ $30 a bbl oil. Oil field rumored to start @ 120 miles east of Boston, extend out into the atlantic basin on the "banks", and peters out Nova Scotia east. Russians have hit massive oil many places @ 44k? level.
Price: Russia/Iran/Venezeula would be unable to compete oil estimated below 72-70$ level. Bankruptcy, anyone? Something Saudi/Qatar alliance could accomplish with pipelines to Europe through Syria. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 4:14:28 AM EDT
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In other news I am still paying 3.70 a gallon for diesel... You can thank the EPA for that. There's plenty of diesel made every day but that ULSD bullshit is much harder to produce and so now there's an artificial shortage. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 4:19:35 AM EDT
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Shit if they get short on money who will sponsor the Cannonball run I'll do it, but it'll be more of a bragging rights thing 'cause the prize money will suck. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 4:54:10 AM EDT
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I know a player in the crude oil xport business. Its still cheaper to haul foreign oil via tanker up to the refinery, on the east coast anyway. I'm no commie or a obummer supporter but the kingdom of Saud has owned american presidents since the tail end of the Reagan era. No pipeline approval, no approving of off shore rigs (oblamo)and more importantly, EPA not allowing the building of new refineries (oblammo and bushes) The newest ones are 40 years old. In the midwest there's thousands of gallons of unrefined oil sitting in the middle of nowhere. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The idea that we are replacing Saudi oil with shale oil is fantasy. We still import 2/3 rds of the oil we consume. I know a player in the crude oil xport business. Its still cheaper to haul foreign oil via tanker up to the refinery, on the east coast anyway. I'm no commie or a obummer supporter but the kingdom of Saud has owned american presidents since the tail end of the Reagan era. No pipeline approval, no approving of off shore rigs (oblamo)and more importantly, EPA not allowing the building of new refineries (oblammo and bushes) The newest ones are 40 years old. In the midwest there's thousands of gallons of unrefined oil sitting in the middle of nowhere. Doesn't really matter what the reasons are. We consume 18 million barrels per day and produce about 8 million barrels per day. I was off a bit, due to the on going recession, we are consuming less oil now so we are importing slightly more than 1/2 the oil we consume. Yes there are 600 trillion barrels of oil in the US locked into shale. The issue is producing it in the volume we need on a daily basis. It simply is not as easy as just sinking wells to increase the daily volume. And daily volume is what we need. That is why all the pundits that talk about how much oil we have, never talk about the daily volume of production, because it destroys the narrative. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:01:02 AM EDT
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Pretty sure we're still exporting more than we're importing............but most is coming from South America............ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The idea that we are replacing Saudi oil with shale oil is fantasy. We still import 2/3 rds of the oil we consume. Pretty sure we're still exporting more than we're importing............but most is coming from South America............ I do not know where this comes from. We have been a net importer of oil since 1975 and the result has been a large trade deficit resulting in the export of American wealth. We are not a net exporter of oil, by this years numbers we import slightly more than half of our consumption. here are the production numbers. link we consume 18.5 million barrels per day. are total oil production is about 8 million barrels per day. Yes it is up from 7 million per day, but nowhere near meeting our consumption. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:16:28 AM EDT
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When was the US ever dependent on Saudi oil? We don't use high sulfur content crude oil. wat |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:16:58 AM EDT
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The major thing we are dependent on others for is refining. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When was the US ever dependent on Saudi oil? We don't use high sulfur content crude oil. Europe and Asia were dependent on Saudi oil. We secured their interest for them. The major thing we are dependent on others for is refining. 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:18:30 AM EDT
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Most of that is used in production. Plastics I believe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When was the US ever dependent on Saudi oil? We don't use high sulfur content crude oil. Europe and Asia were dependent on Saudi oil. We secured their interest for them. Think we still get somewhere around 10- 15% for consumption from them. Our main suppliers are Canada and Venezuela. Most of that is used in production. Plastics I believe.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:31:25 AM EDT
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There is so much crap in this thread my head is spinning.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:35:27 AM EDT
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The idea that we are replacing Saudi oil with shale oil is fantasy. We still import 2/3 rds of the oil we consume. US Producing More Oil Than It Imports November 2013 |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:45:26 AM EDT
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The idea that we are replacing Saudi oil with shale oil is fantasy. We still import 2/3 rds of the oil we consume. US Producing More Oil Than It Imports November 2013 numbers are funny. If I produce 10 and import 9.5 I am producing more than I import. But I still consume 18.5 and still need to import 50% of my needs. So not really sure what the big deal is about that other that propaganda. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:47:55 AM EDT
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numbers are funny. If I produce 10 and import 9.5 I am producing more than I import. But I can still consume 18.5 and still need to import 50% of my needs. So not really sure what the big deal is about that other that propaganda. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The idea that we are replacing Saudi oil with shale oil is fantasy. We still import 2/3 rds of the oil we consume. US Producing More Oil Than It Imports November 2013 numbers are funny. If I produce 10 and import 9.5 I am producing more than I import. But I can still consume 18.5 and still need to import 50% of my needs. So not really sure what the big deal is about that other that propaganda. Thank you. I'm guilty of it. I think of import/export and neglect to think of consumption. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:49:22 AM EDT
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That's two bucks less than Barry thinks you should pay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In other news I am still paying 3.70 a gallon for diesel... That's two bucks less than Barry thinks you should pay. Yup Barry be disappointed. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:54:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In other news I am still paying 3.70 a gallon for diesel... I think we should pave the M.E. with Atomic glass, we can always come back in a few years and drill new wells in the worlds largest parking lot
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Posted: 4/20/2014 5:58:28 AM EDT
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The Saudis are defecating in their night gown because they know that when the Australian oil fields come on line they will need to sell their oil at sub $20 a barrel. Australiian oil fields? Tell us more. Sounds fishy. I doubt that the Greens in Aus are going to allow modern recovery tech (tar sands, shale oil, et al) to be used in any major way. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 6:24:39 AM EDT
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Maine (ME) is rumored to have massive oil/gas reserves. Two wells drilled 1 Ashland @ 1982, hit gas 32-34k ft level, would have been developable at that time @ $30 a bbl oil. Oil field rumored to start @ 120 miles east of Boston, extend out into the atlantic basin on the "banks", and peters out Nova Scotia east. Russians have hit massive oil many places @ 44k? level. Price: Russia/Iran/Venezeula would be unable to compete oil estimated below 72-70$ level. Bankruptcy, anyone? Something Saudi/Qatar alliance could accomplish with pipelines to Europe through Syria. Wow really? 32-34 and the russians are doing 44K? That is most impressive and I had no idea wells are going that deep now. When I was a roughneck in the early 80's (TX and OK) I remember one well we drilled in the Anadarko basin and we all thought that was crazy deep at 28K (it was successful) and there was a Canadian crew that was nearby that went even a little deeper. It took us well over a month to even get there and that was what seemed like non-stop pipe tripping every single day. I'm sure technology in the oilfield has advanced tremendously since then (and I really haven't kept up to date) but I feel sorry for those poor guys that have to run that kind of pipe. But I also have no doubt that it is certainly possible. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:11:47 AM EDT
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The idea that we are replacing Saudi oil with shale oil is fantasy. We still import 2/3 rds of the oil we consume. Yeah, about that.... It is reported that the US is the largest producer of oil. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/15/us-oil-pira-idUSL1N0I51IX20131015 U.S. surges past Saudis to become world's top oil supplier
The United States has overtaken Saudi Arabia to become the world's biggest oil producer as the jump in output from shale plays has led to the second biggest oil boom in history, according to leading U.S. energy consultancy PIRA. U.S. output, which includes natural gas liquids and biofuels, has swelled 3.2 million barrels per day (bpd) since 2009, the fastest expansion in production over a four-year period since a surge in Saudi Arabia's output from 1970-1974, PIRA said in a release on Tuesday. Maybe I am reading the chart wrong but it appears we import way more oil from Canada than we do from Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia makes up how much of our actual oil imports? http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm So we do export more oil than we import from any single importer, but not a total of importers. But do we really import 2/3rds of the oil we use? We don't export all the oil we produce. We likely export the oil that is easier to export. If oil is in Alaska or offshore, might that oil be easier to ship to a refinery in another country than shipping it to Texas or some other state with refinery capacity? Thank Obama for limiting US production. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:28:52 AM EDT
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In other news I am still paying 3.70 a gallon for diesel... That's a pretty good price. When I first started driving it was 29.9 cents a gallon for 97 octane premium gas. 'Don't remember the diesel price. 1971 in Rural Va. Those were the days. 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:41:56 AM EDT
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The Russians would be doing humanity a great favor by vaporizing Mecca and Medina. It would be a good start. 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:06:12 AM EDT
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4.13 here I think we should pave the M.E. with Atomic glass, we can always come back in a few years and drill new wells in the worlds largest parking lot Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In other news I am still paying 3.70 a gallon for diesel... I think we should pave the M.E. with Atomic glass, we can always come back in a few years and drill new wells in the worlds largest parking lot Although a rather drastic move it would sure get rid of a lot of the worlds problems......at one fell swoop.
It does raise the more important question of: What's the half-life .......of radioactive crude....
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:24:22 AM EDT
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In other news I am still paying 3.70 a gallon for diesel... That's a pretty good price. Anything over 2 per gallon is ridiculous but whatever |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:37:09 AM EDT
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In other news I am still paying 3.70 a gallon for diesel... That's a pretty good price. Anything over 2 per gallon is ridiculous but whatever The blame lies more with the Federal Reserve's quantitative easing and increasing global demand than anything else. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:21:27 PM EDT
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For some reason, having a large Muslim country with a bad economy doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy.
Biggest threat to US security over the last couple decades have been unemployed young Muslim men with nothing to do. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:47:16 PM EDT
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The idea that we are replacing Saudi oil with shale oil is fantasy. We still import 2/3 rds of the oil we consume. How dare you! Did you forgot, this is GD aka Phantasy Island 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:53:48 PM EDT
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It's a weird alliance. Americans hate the backwards savage Saudis and the Saudis hate Americans. But the elites of the 2 countries like each other.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:20:31 PM EDT
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It's a weird alliance. Americans hate the backwards savage Saudis and the Saudis hate Americans. But the elites of the 2 countries like each other. Neoliberalism - it's a wonderful thing. 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:23:17 PM EDT
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maybe good things will happen to the feds and the dollar as soon as Saudi start selling oil in BRICS currencies I love the inclusion South Africa on that list. It's the Axis of Ineptitude. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:24:55 PM EDT
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For some reason, having a large Muslim country with a bad economy doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. Biggest threat to US security over the last couple decades have been unemployed young Muslim men with nothing to do. They don't like to,do anything, except,on Thursdays |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:35:49 PM EDT
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I've asked ME congress critters a question, NO RESPONSE. ?? If Saudi/Qatar et all are seriously interested in a trans Syrian pipeline, has there been any talks/negotiations with the Syrian government regarding pipeline building agreement. Crickets? Not exactly Mr. Current Events, are we? |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:37:08 PM EDT
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Sounds fishy. I doubt that the Greens in Aus are going to allow modern recovery tech (tar sands, shale oil, et al) to be used in any major way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Saudis are defecating in their night gown because they know that when the Australian oil fields come on line they will need to sell their oil at sub $20 a barrel. Australiian oil fields? Tell us more. Sounds fishy. I doubt that the Greens in Aus are going to allow modern recovery tech (tar sands, shale oil, et al) to be used in any major way. Think East Timor. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:37:25 PM EDT
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