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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:38:40 PM EDT

Posted: 4/19/2014 1:18:08 AM EDT

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Jeremy Clarkson is a wonderful narrator, and this is a wonderful documentary. Thanks for posting this, DoubleARon.

Posted: 4/19/2014 1:19:54 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/19/2014 1:36:28 AM EDT

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Pure Balls of Steel.

Navigating into a port in a giant floating bomb past all the defenses & guns.

One shell major hit and KA-BOOMMM!!!

Posted: 4/19/2014 2:11:35 AM EDT

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I watched that a few months back. Some serious balls of steel. Thanks for the reminder, OP.

Posted: 4/19/2014 4:35:22 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/19/2014 4:55:12 AM EDT

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These two deserve honorable mention when talking of "great raids."

Raid on Entebbe (rescue of Israeli hostages in Uganda in the 1970's)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Entebbe
Raid on Eben Emael (technically not a "raid" in the pure doctrinal sense of the word, but has repeatedly been referred to as one).

Small contingent of German paratroopers take out the most formidable defensive fortress in Europe at the beginning of WWII.

http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/wwii/articles/fortebenemael.aspx

Posted: 4/19/2014 5:04:20 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/19/2014 5:13:48 AM EDT

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I have mixed feelings about the St. Nazaire raid. If a German capitol ship used that drydock, she'd be a sitting duck for the RAF. Isn't that a good thing?

For failed raids, goggle Task Force Baum. It was a raid on a PoW camp to free Patton's son-in-law. It Baumed-Out.

The rescue of Mussolini was spectacular, but credit went to Skorzeny instead of the Luftwaffe that planned and carried it out.

Posted: 4/19/2014 5:22:04 AM EDT

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What most people don't understand is that the raid on St Nazaire was inspired by another raid that happened in World War One.

The Raid on Zeebrugge.

Posted: 4/19/2014 5:30:48 AM EDT

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Yep that's a great one

Posted: 4/19/2014 6:23:54 AM EDT

[#11]

AMAZING. Great story, great narration, just wonderful.

Thanks, OP.

Posted: 4/19/2014 6:28:51 AM EDT

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I agree. He wrote it too.

Posted: 4/19/2014 6:30:24 AM EDT

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"who dares, wins" indeed.

Posted: 4/19/2014 7:19:15 AM EDT

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Hell of a story and every second of it was interesting

Posted: 4/19/2014 7:26:18 AM EDT

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Those guys probably need wheelbarrows to haul their enormous balls around...

Posted: 4/19/2014 7:31:54 AM EDT

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I have mixed feelings about the St. Nazaire raid. If a German capitol ship used that drydock, she'd be a sitting duck for the RAF. Isn't that a good thing?

For failed raids, goggle Task Force Baum. It was a raid on a PoW camp to free Patton's son-in-law. It Baumed-Out.

The rescue of Mussolini was spectacular, but credit went to Skorzeny instead of the Luftwaffe that planned and carried it out.

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Said the bombers of the day couldn't hit the broadside of a barn ...

Posted: 4/19/2014 7:36:00 AM EDT

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KMS Tirpitz was sunk by Tallboy bombs.

Battleship Arizona was hit and destroyed by armor piercing bombs dropped from 3,000 meters.

Posted: 4/19/2014 7:38:57 AM EDT

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Very cool, i enjoy his narrations better than morgan freemans.

Posted: 4/19/2014 8:02:30 AM EDT

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That was awe inspiring. My favorite part I think was at the end when the old man said "If the time came, would the youth of today do what we did? Of course they would."

Posted: 4/19/2014 8:20:47 AM EDT

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More from Clarkson. Very good documentaries

Posted: 4/19/2014 8:22:40 AM EDT

[#21]

Thanks for posting this.

Posted: 4/19/2014 8:24:48 AM EDT

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Good show.

Posted: 4/19/2014 8:31:42 AM EDT

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This was worth blowing off working on my thesis

Posted: 4/19/2014 9:42:34 AM EDT

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I have mixed feelings about the St. Nazaire raid. If a German capitol ship used that drydock, she'd be a sitting duck for the RAF. Isn't that a good thing?

For failed raids, goggle Task Force Baum. It was a raid on a PoW camp to free Patton's son-in-law. It Baumed-Out.

The rescue of Mussolini was spectacular, but credit went to Skorzeny instead of the Luftwaffe that planned and carried it out.

Said the bombers of the day couldn't hit the broadside of a barn ...

The british bombers couldnt .

Norden site for the win.

Posted: 4/19/2014 9:55:37 AM EDT

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Anyone that's popped Piers Morgan is fine by me.

Posted: 4/19/2014 10:34:50 AM EDT

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Well there we are....4 minutes late

Posted: 4/19/2014 10:42:11 AM EDT

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WOW... His Father in Law earned the VC? I guess he deserves some of the pretentionism.

Posted: 4/19/2014 10:47:21 AM EDT

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Interesting guy to listen to, mostly. Has the usual English predilection for throwing out half-witted jabs at the US at every opportunity, and not always in a good-natured way.

Hard to respect such a flag-waving war hawk when he never wore a uniform. A blow-hard, no?

Posted: 4/19/2014 10:55:29 AM EDT

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You aren't very familiar with bombing accuracy back in World War II are you? Back then they had to send literally hundreds of aircraft hoping that maybe 5% to 10% of the bombs would fall on the target. With this raid there was very little collateral damage. Which is ALWAYS a good thing.

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:02:00 AM EDT

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LATE in the war by a very specialized and extremely skilled bomber crews, PLUS the Tallboy bombs weren't available at the time.

Oh, yeah: The same squadron (617) that sank the Tirpitz also busted the Ruhr Dams, also Later in the war.
Saint Nazaire happened in 1942, the dams were destroyed in 1943 and the Tirpitz was sunk in 1944. You're asking for something that hadn't been invented yet.

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:13:30 AM EDT

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The british bombers couldnt .

Norden site for the win.

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I have mixed feelings about the St. Nazaire raid. If a German capitol ship used that drydock, she'd be a sitting duck for the RAF. Isn't that a good thing?

For failed raids, goggle Task Force Baum. It was a raid on a PoW camp to free Patton's son-in-law. It Baumed-Out.

The rescue of Mussolini was spectacular, but credit went to Skorzeny instead of the Luftwaffe that planned and carried it out.

Said the bombers of the day couldn't hit the broadside of a barn ...

The british bombers couldnt .

Norden site for the win.

The Norden could hit the barn, Period.

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:14:48 AM EDT

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Yeah. The Norden wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:22:40 AM EDT

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I have mixed feelings about the St. Nazaire raid. If a German capitol ship used that drydock, she'd be a sitting duck for the RAF. Isn't that a good thing?

For failed raids, goggle Task Force Baum. It was a raid on a PoW camp to free Patton's son-in-law. It Baumed-Out.

The rescue of Mussolini was spectacular, but credit went to Skorzeny instead of the Luftwaffe that planned and carried it out.

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they werent ever going to hit anything in the dock.. too well defended for low altitude attacks and bomb sites sucked so you couldnt hit anything from high up. next best thing was to destroy the drydock to keep the larger german ships from being in the area. and it worked ;)

sometimes, its simply better to keep the enemy away than to kill the enemy

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:25:37 AM EDT

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it was MUCH better than the previous "Guess and Press" method, but yeah, it wasnt what could be considered "Precision" by modern standards... "Precision" was keeping the bomb strings in one county, and hoping 5-10% of the ordnance managed to actually hit the intended target

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:26:38 AM EDT

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I enjoyed that. Thanks for posting!

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:32:54 AM EDT

[#36]

Thanks!

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:36:09 AM EDT

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tag

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:45:54 AM EDT

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Interesting guy to listen to, mostly. Has the usual English predilection for throwing out half-witted jabs at the US at every opportunity, and not always in a good-natured way.

Hard to respect such a flag-waving war hawk when he never wore a uniform. A blow-hard, no?

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Western European militaries today lack a breed of man they had in spades in the past.

The true believer.

It's tough believing in a country that's been stolen from you.

Posted: 4/19/2014 11:55:59 AM EDT

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it was MUCH better than the previous "Guess and Press" method, but yeah, it wasnt what could be considered "Precision" by modern standards... "Precision" was keeping the bomb strings in one county, and hoping 5-10% of the ordnance managed to actually hit the intended target

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Yeah. The Norden wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

it was MUCH better than the previous "Guess and Press" method, but yeah, it wasnt what could be considered "Precision" by modern standards... "Precision" was keeping the bomb strings in one county, and hoping 5-10% of the ordnance managed to actually hit the intended target

There were efforts at improving bombing accuracy on both sides.

US WWII smart bomb, the AZON

Nazi WWII smart bombs

Posted: 4/19/2014 12:48:10 PM EDT

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Excellent post Ron.

Great story.

Posted: 4/19/2014 1:12:38 PM EDT

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Jeremy Clarkson is a wonderful narrator, and this is a wonderful documentary. Thanks for posting this, DoubleARon.

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I agree, but I can do without the Pop Music.

This is one of the best stories I've Never heard before and I'm actually a bit angry about that.

Posted: 4/19/2014 1:24:55 PM EDT

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I agree, but I can do without the Pop Music.

This is one of the best stories I've Never heard before and I'm actually a bit angry about that.

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Jeremy Clarkson is a wonderful narrator, and this is a wonderful documentary. Thanks for posting this, DoubleARon.

I agree, but I can do without the Pop Music.

This is one of the best stories I've Never heard before and I'm actually a bit angry about that.

Could care less.
I thought the piece was extremely well done.

Posted: 4/19/2014 1:37:43 PM EDT

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this

Posted: 4/19/2014 1:41:06 PM EDT

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Could care less.
I thought the piece was extremely well done.

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Jeremy Clarkson is a wonderful narrator, and this is a wonderful documentary. Thanks for posting this, DoubleARon.

I agree, but I can do without the Pop Music.

This is one of the best stories I've Never heard before and I'm actually a bit angry about that.

Could care less.
I thought the piece was extremely well done.

Just in case we have a misunderstanding I mean that I'm angry I had never heard this story before.

The Pop music thing is just a preference.

Posted: 4/19/2014 1:42:22 PM EDT

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Thanks for sharing OP! Those blokes were some mean motherfuckers...

And I do quite enjoy the dry British sense of humor. "I knew I'd have to escape, but I didn't feel up to it at the moment." I should think not, with at least one GSW and a broken arm!

Posted: 4/19/2014 2:12:23 PM EDT

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More from Clarkson. Very good documentaries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpg6h16k8eU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKTLXwKJt5w

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wtf was that admiral thinking

Posted: 4/19/2014 2:31:38 PM EDT

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"Please don't shout, just get on with it."

Posted: 4/19/2014 2:36:34 PM EDT

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I have mixed feelings about the St. Nazaire raid. If a German capitol ship used that drydock, she'd be a sitting duck for the RAF. Isn't that a good thing?

For failed raids, goggle Task Force Baum. It was a raid on a PoW camp to free Patton's son-in-law. It Baumed-Out.

The rescue of Mussolini was spectacular, but credit went to Skorzeny instead of the Luftwaffe that planned and carried it out.

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I've read about that, FUBAR does not even begin to describe it.