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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:08:34 PM EDT
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How did they find the bullet hole?
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:10:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How did they find the bullet hole? By the smell. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:13:02 PM EDT
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Cheeky Bastard.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:13:07 PM EDT
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WTF
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:19:39 PM EDT
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Give him a medal.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:23:18 PM EDT
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Who the fuck tries to arrest some guy with an open assault charge while off duty in wal mart?
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:25:20 PM EDT
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How is assault defined in Ala.? In Fla., both assault and battery require intent, and the article says the shooting was accidental.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:29:38 PM EDT
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He really took it in the shorts.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:31:21 PM EDT
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And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:32:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How is assault defined in Ala.? In Fla., both assault and battery require intent, and the article says the shooting was accidental. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:33:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:39:38 PM EDT
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Who the fuck tries to arrest some guy with an open assault charge while off duty in wal mart? 
That's who. Dammit. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:41:06 PM EDT
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Who the fuck tries to arrest some guy with an open assault charge while off duty in wal mart? An Alabama LEO? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:41:43 PM EDT
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Who the fuck tries to arrest some guy with an open assault charge while off duty in wal mart? The kind that routinely shops at Walmart.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:42:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:45:09 PM EDT
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I bet there was a realistic dog tattoo on his ass.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:51:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? 
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:51:09 PM EDT
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Wheel of morality turn, turn, turn. Show us the lesson that we should learn.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:02:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? It would have been a felony here as well. Seems reasonable enough. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:03:16 PM EDT
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I hate when that happens.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:05:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would have been a felony here as well. Seems reasonable enough. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's odd that he was charged. Even more strange that he was charged with a felony. Non life threatening injuries don't qualify as serious physical injury so they'd have to show intent. It would have been a felony here as well. Seems reasonable enough. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator.  |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:08:57 PM EDT
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The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged When I see something like that in my local news my first thought is he's "that guy" no one wants on the force. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:47:29 PM EDT
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When I see something like that in my local news my first thought is he's "that guy" no one wants on the force. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged When I see something like that in my local news my first thought is he's "that guy" no one wants on the force. Thats a good point. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:58:23 PM EDT
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Do the Police and SO have a feud or something going on over there?
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:03:38 PM EDT
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Do the Police and SO have a feud or something going on over there? The deputy is Morgan County. The shooting was in Madison County. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:09:31 PM EDT
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The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged The officer's account of what happened and the report of several eye witnesses differed on a few key points. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:13:26 PM EDT
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The deputy is Morgan County. The shooting was in Madison County. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do the Police and SO have a feud or something going on over there? The deputy is Morgan County. The shooting was in Madison County. Morgan County Sheriff Ana Franklin said Huntsville Police Department will likely complete their investigation by the beginning of next week. At that point, it will be handed over to the district attorney. From one of the other links. In her interview she said all of her deputies are under the microscope.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:26:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:29:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats a good point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged When I see something like that in my local news my first thought is he's "that guy" no one wants on the force. Thats a good point. Sounds like someone pissed off The King.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:52:19 PM EDT
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Who the fuck tries to arrest some guy with an open assault charge while off duty in wal mart? A bozo. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:14:17 PM EDT
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How is assault defined in Ala.? In Fla., both assault and battery require intent, and the article says the shooting was accidental. Negligent Discharge?? the perp had already stopped or never started resisting and was coming along peacefully? A situation where deadly force was not appropriate?? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:17:08 PM EDT
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That's just it, without intent, it doesn't qualify under the assault 2 statute. Classifying a minor gunshot wound as serious physical injury is a huge stretch. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator.
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It's odd that he was charged. Even more strange that he was charged with a felony. Non life threatening injuries don't qualify as serious physical injury so they'd have to show intent. It would have been a felony here as well. Seems reasonable enough. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator.
And if it wasn't a felony probation violation? and if he wasn't wanted on a felony charge? yeah that would do it in a lot of places. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:22:58 PM EDT
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Hopefully LEOs use this example nationwide TO DO NOTHING, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES off duty.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:26:07 PM EDT
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Hopefully LEOs use this example nationwide TO DO NOTHING, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES off duty. I don't see how the outcome would be different if he were on duty. I think it's odd that he's charged, but if it was a bad shoot off-duty, it'd be a bad shoot on-duty. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:26:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like someone pissed off The King. Haven't you heard? Joffrey is dead.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:27:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see how the outcome would be different if he were on duty. I think it's odd that he's charged, but if it was a bad shoot off-duty, it'd be a bad shoot on-duty. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hopefully LEOs use this example nationwide TO DO NOTHING, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES off duty. I don't see how the outcome would be different if he were on duty. I think it's odd that he's charged, but if it was a bad shoot off-duty, it'd be a bad shoot on-duty. Eh, I may be over reacting because it's in GD
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:37:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And if it wasn't a felony probation violation? and if he wasn't wanted on a felony charge? yeah that would do it in a lot of places. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's just it, without intent, it doesn't qualify under the assault 2 statute. Classifying a minor gunshot wound as serious physical injury is a huge stretch. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator. And if it wasn't a felony probation violation? and if he wasn't wanted on a felony charge? yeah that would do it in a lot of places. Can't be shootin' fleeing felons unless they pose a great enough threat to the public that it would justify using deadly force to seize 'em. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:59:46 PM EDT
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The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged Yhea WTF? He was arresting a felon. Isn't that part of his job? Only question is was the accidental good shoot due to a struggle, or a negligent discharge due to loosing focus while reaching for cuffs, etc? |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 5:35:00 AM EDT
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Yhea WTF? He was arresting a felon. Isn't that part of his job? Only question is was the accidental good shoot due to a struggle, or a negligent discharge due to loosing focus while reaching for cuffs, etc? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? The cop got charged, seems odd to me that he was even charged Yhea WTF? He was arresting a felon. Isn't that part of his job? Only question is was the accidental good shoot due to a struggle, or a negligent discharge due to loosing focus while reaching for cuffs, etc? Using only lawful amounts of force is also part of the job. If the officer actually used excessive force then good on the department for bringing up charges. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:31:46 AM EDT
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Hopefully LEOs use this example nationwide TO DO NOTHING, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES off duty. I got that memo in 1994.
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:34:07 AM EDT
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*BANG*
"Well, shit." |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:39:03 AM EDT
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That's just it, without intent, it doesn't qualify under the assault 2 statute. Classifying a minor gunshot wound as serious physical injury is a huge stretch. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator.
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It's odd that he was charged. Even more strange that he was charged with a felony. Non life threatening injuries don't qualify as serious physical injury so they'd have to show intent. It would have been a felony here as well. Seems reasonable enough. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator.
That may be true. Also this was not a NEW walmart, so there are about 48 cams everywhere. Ever notice that, NEW walmarts have no cams, or very few. The old, crufty ones have 48-98 cams pointed everywhere. But I digress. You how to avoid being a probation skipping felon being shot in the azz??? Thats right, don't be a probation skipping felon. I wonder why the off duty officer didn't simply phone this one in? A felon shopping at walmart isn't likely to be in a hurry, he would have been there long enough for uniformed officers to arrive. I am thinking the LEO knew this guy somehow. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:43:19 AM EDT
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From what I heard/read on the news around here some witnesses didn't think it looked so accidental thus the charges....FWIW of course
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Posted: 4/19/2014 7:53:08 AM EDT
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Hopefully LEOs use this example nationwide TO DO NOTHING, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES off duty. LEO's nationwide need to be good witnesses unless there is a crime in progress that needs to be stopped immediately. It was for a probation violation......who cares???? Call it in if it bugs you that much. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 3:36:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's just it, without intent, it doesn't qualify under the assault 2 statute. Classifying a minor gunshot wound as serious physical injury is a huge stretch. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's odd that he was charged. Even more strange that he was charged with a felony. Non life threatening injuries don't qualify as serious physical injury so they'd have to show intent. It would have been a felony here as well. Seems reasonable enough. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator. I guess it's different there, but recklessness also makes it assault here. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 4:56:47 PM EDT
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xjr2hnOHiM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSAyz5c3JmM
That's who. Dammit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who the fuck tries to arrest some guy with an open assault charge while off duty in wal mart? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xjr2hnOHiM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSAyz5c3JmM
That's who. Dammit. Who's we sucka |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 4:59:06 PM EDT
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And what would happen to Joe Citizen if he "accidently" shot someone? Is that citizen the Vice President? |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 5:00:03 PM EDT
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That's just it, without intent, it doesn't qualify under the assault 2 statute. Classifying a minor gunshot wound as serious physical injury is a huge stretch. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator.
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It's odd that he was charged. Even more strange that he was charged with a felony. Non life threatening injuries don't qualify as serious physical injury so they'd have to show intent. It would have been a felony here as well. Seems reasonable enough. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator.
Dipshit. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 5:06:18 PM EDT
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LEO's nationwide need to be good witnesses unless there is a crime in progress that needs to be stopped immediately. It was for a probation violation......who cares???? Call it in if it bugs you that much. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hopefully LEOs use this example nationwide TO DO NOTHING, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES off duty. LEO's nationwide need to be good witnesses unless there is a crime in progress that needs to be stopped immediately. It was for a probation violation......who cares???? Call it in if it bugs you that much. No kidding. Tons of serious off duty shootings have ended badly and those were gods honest life in jeopardy armed robbery typesituations. Even then it is a crap shoot on whether the officer will decide to shoot based on scenario. Probation violations? Not like it is a critical incident. A phone call to have officers meeting to the front of the store? So easy it is rediculous. |
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Posted: 4/19/2014 5:59:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dipshit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's just it, without intent, it doesn't qualify under the assault 2 statute. Classifying a minor gunshot wound as serious physical injury is a huge stretch. ETA: Found the intent in a related article. Witnesses said he aimed and shot at the fleeing probation violator. Dipshit. Excuse me sir, I am not a dipshit. Asshole yes but not a dipshit.    |
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