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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:46:19 PM EDT
This doesn't look good. Perhaps as many as 10 climbers missing.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/world/asia/nepal-everest-avalanche/index.html The avalanche occurred just below Camp 2, maybe? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/18/mount-everest-avalanche-climbers Reporting 4 to 6 fatalities and perhaps 9 still missing ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/avalanche-sweeps-everest-4-5-believed-buried/2014/04/17/56438c9e-c6a8-11e3-b708-471bae3cb10c_story.html _________ If this did happened low on the route, it sort of reminds me of the avalanche on the North face of Mont Blanc du Tacul in 2008, where 8 climbers were killed in an avalanche on what's perhaps the most pedestrian part of the route to Mont Blanc via Aiguille du Midi. Peu Difficile is all this section was rated, "not hard", just the beginning of what was supposed to be a long slog across a couple of peaks to the top of Mont Blanc, proper. And then, boom, avalanche at 3AM, right as they are beginning the climb ... http://www.alpinist.com/doc/web08x/newswire-avalanche-mont-blanc-eight-killed __________ UPDATE: Here's a more thorough description of what happened and where. http://www.climbing.com/news/deadliest-day-on-everest/ Looks like it happened in the Khumbu Icefall, below Camp 1. I think that place has been best described as a "time bomb". 
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:05:27 PM EDT
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Not good. Looks like the losses will be sherpas.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:05:42 PM EDT
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Damn, Looking liked six dead and nine missing.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:10:26 PM EDT
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Bad place to need help.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:20:51 PM EDT
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They all knew the risks. But, I still wish the best to them and their families.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:34:57 PM EDT
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Prayers for them and their families.
These things happen on a mountain that is actively trying to kill you around the clock.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:43:03 PM EDT
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Now at 9 dead. Seems like all Sherpas.
Prayers for them and their families.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:51:56 PM EDT
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:03:59 AM EDT
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 13ers
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:09:37 AM EDT
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meh...just sherpas. don't count.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:09:40 AM EDT
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meh...just sherpas. don't count. NVM, saw smiley face, still not funny though. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:17:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really guy? ETA NVM, saw smiley face, still not funny though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Really guy? ETA Quoted: meh...just sherpas. don't count. NVM, saw smiley face, still not funny though. Yeah, really. Climbing Mount Everest is a stupid, dangerous endeavor that rich people do to impress their friends. I do feel bad for the sherpas, though. They're only trying to earn a living. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:18:19 AM EDT
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Really guy? ETA NVM, saw smiley face, still not funny though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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meh...just sherpas. don't count. NVM, saw smiley face, still not funny though. Its a game for everyone else. The Sherpas and Guides are trying to make a living. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:18:50 AM EDT
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Yeah, really. Climbing Mount Everest is a stupid, dangerous endeavor that rich people do to impress their friends. I do feel bad for the sherpas, though. They're only trying to earn a living. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Really guy? ETA Quoted:
meh...just sherpas. don't count. NVM, saw smiley face, still not funny though. Yeah, really. Climbing Mount Everest is a stupid, dangerous endeavor that rich people do to impress their friends. I do feel bad for the sherpas, though. They're only trying to earn a living. You're an idiot. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:21:34 AM EDT
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Also, I noticed the "I'm so fucking tough, other people died and I don't give a fuck because I think the things other people enjoy are stupid, but everything I do, of course, is righteous" people are both from places that don't have mountains. I wonder if either of you have ever climbed a mountain, or understand that for many who climb, it's not a game or stupid, it's place where people find challenge and peace. But you're too badass to understand that...
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:24:30 AM EDT
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Also, I noticed the "I'm so fucking tough, other people died and I don't give a fuck because I think the things other people enjoy are stupid, but everything I do, of course, is righteous" people are both from places that don't have mountains. I wonder if either of you have ever climbed a mountain, or understand that for many who climb, it's not a game or stupid, it's place where people find challenge and peace. But you're too badass to understand that... I did not say it was not a challenge. I did not put it down. I merely stated that the guys doing it are doing it for a challenge, to push themselves to the limit. The guides, and especially the Sherpa, are doing it to put food on the table. I have respect for the climbers, but I have more respect for those that fall in the line of work or duty. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:27:03 AM EDT
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I did not say it was not a challenge. I did not put it down. I merely stated that the guys doing it are doing it for a challenge, to push themselves to the limit. The guides, and especially the Sherpa, are doing it to put food on the table. I have respect for the climbers, but I have more respect for those that fall in the line of work or duty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, I noticed the "I'm so fucking tough, other people died and I don't give a fuck because I think the things other people enjoy are stupid, but everything I do, of course, is righteous" people are both from places that don't have mountains. I wonder if either of you have ever climbed a mountain, or understand that for many who climb, it's not a game or stupid, it's place where people find challenge and peace. But you're too badass to understand that... I did not say it was not a challenge. I did not put it down. I merely stated that the guys doing it are doing it for a challenge, to push themselves to the limit. The guides, and especially the Sherpa, are doing it to put food on the table. I have respect for the climbers, but I have more respect for those that fall in the line of work or duty. In that case, my apologies to you for misunderstanding what you meant. That said, as far as the "stupid games" guy, well, at least he's keeping with the fine tradition of 13'ers, and my statement definitely stands in his case. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:28:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, I noticed the "I'm so fucking tough, other people died and I don't give a fuck because I think the things other people enjoy are stupid, but everything I do, of course, is righteous" people are both from places that don't have mountains. I wonder if either of you have ever climbed a mountain, or understand that for many who climb, it's not a game or stupid, it's place where people find challenge and peace. But you're too badass to understand that... If you want to pay tens of thousands of dollars to go climb Everest and risk death and frostbite, more power to you. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:32:50 AM EDT
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If you want to pay tens of thousands of dollars to go climb Everest and risk death and frostbite, more power to you. And that is reason to be callous of somebody's death? Do you live a nice safe life in the comfort of a padded basement in your mom's house? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:06:17 AM EDT
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Insightful. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:06:21 AM EDT
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12 Sherpas affixing ropes for the climbers....wow
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:12:36 AM EDT
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RIP
Just a question as I know nothing about climbing- Did the original climbers use these "sherpas"? If not, when did they become common? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:14:50 AM EDT
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Yeah, really. Climbing Mount Everest is a stupid, dangerous endeavor that rich people do to impress their friends. I do feel bad for the sherpas, though. They're only trying to earn a living. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Really guy? ETA Quoted:
meh...just sherpas. don't count. NVM, saw smiley face, still not funny though. Yeah, really. Climbing Mount Everest is a stupid, dangerous endeavor that rich people do to impress their friends. I do feel bad for the sherpas, though. They're only trying to earn a living. Kind of a douchebag thing to say. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:16:38 AM EDT
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If you want to pay tens of thousands of dollars to go climb Everest and risk death and frostbite, more power to you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, I noticed the "I'm so fucking tough, other people died and I don't give a fuck because I think the things other people enjoy are stupid, but everything I do, of course, is righteous" people are both from places that don't have mountains. I wonder if either of you have ever climbed a mountain, or understand that for many who climb, it's not a game or stupid, it's place where people find challenge and peace. But you're too badass to understand that... If you want to pay tens of thousands of dollars to go climb Everest and risk death and frostbite, more power to you. How about you tell us what you do for work and for fun... |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:17:25 AM EDT
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Prayers for them and their families. These things happen on a mountain that is actively trying to kill you around the clock. These things do, indeed, happen; however, it's the scope and possibly the location of the slide that makes this stand out. The climbers killed in the avalanche were seasoned, and to have so many of these guys just wiped out by what appears to be the sheer dumb luck of a massive avalanche - wow, that puts our small place on this big Earth into perspective. Like you said, that mountain has been uplifting and sloughing off massive chunks for millions of years. Having only been scaling this thing for the blink of an eye humans have largely been absent when these larger events happen. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:17:58 AM EDT
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RIP
Just a question as I know nothing about climbing- Did the original climbers use these "sherpas"? If not, when did they become common? Hillary AND Tenzing Norgay were the first to summit Everest. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:18:19 AM EDT
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Kind of a douchebag thing to say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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meh...just sherpas. don't count. NVM, saw smiley face, still not funny though. Yeah, really. Climbing Mount Everest is a stupid, dangerous endeavor that rich people do to impress their friends. I do feel bad for the sherpas, though. They're only trying to earn a living. Kind of a douchebag thing to say. This guy gets it and he lives possibly the only place flatter than me. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:21:03 AM EDT
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You're an idiot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Really guy? ETA Quoted:
meh...just sherpas. don't count. NVM, saw smiley face, still not funny though. Yeah, really. Climbing Mount Everest is a stupid, dangerous endeavor that rich people do to impress their friends. I do feel bad for the sherpas, though. They're only trying to earn a living. You're an idiot. +1 |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:28:10 AM EDT
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I feel bad for the Sherpa's since they were just trying to earn a living. Others that climb it for sport know the risks and that they may not be coming home.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:29:12 AM EDT
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Hillary AND Tenzing Norgay were the first to summit Everest. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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RIP
Just a question as I know nothing about climbing- Did the original climbers use these "sherpas"? If not, when did they become common? Hillary AND Tenzing Norgay were the first to summit Everest. Really? Is there anything that woman can't do???
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:30:19 AM EDT
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It happens.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:32:42 AM EDT
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I did not say it was not a challenge. I did not put it down. I merely stated that the guys doing it are doing it for a challenge, to push themselves to the limit. The guides, and especially the Sherpa, are doing it to put food on the table. I have respect for the climbers, but I have more respect for those that fall in the line of work or duty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, I noticed the "I'm so fucking tough, other people died and I don't give a fuck because I think the things other people enjoy are stupid, but everything I do, of course, is righteous" people are both from places that don't have mountains. I wonder if either of you have ever climbed a mountain, or understand that for many who climb, it's not a game or stupid, it's place where people find challenge and peace. But you're too badass to understand that... I did not say it was not a challenge. I did not put it down. I merely stated that the guys doing it are doing it for a challenge, to push themselves to the limit. The guides, and especially the Sherpa, are doing it to put food on the table. I have respect for the climbers, but I have more respect for those that fall in the line of work or duty. Keep digging http://www.usaf7summits.com/ |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:33:31 AM EDT
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Wonder what climbing Everest costs? In dollars, several pay with their lives. Plus you have to be able to not work for months at a time.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:35:02 AM EDT
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RIP
Just a question as I know nothing about climbing- Did the original climbers use these "sherpas"? If not, when did they become common? Porters and Sherpas have always been a part of the Everest climbing scene. Originally, the place was remote and uncharted enough that the only way to get your supportive gear in there and high enough to make a legitimate attempt on your own was through the assistance of Sherpas. Over time, as better information, knowledge base and access were developed very lightly supported / unsupported attempts were possible. Over more time, the commercialization of the mountain has pretty much mandated a heavy reliance on Sherpas. Today, even if you go in there on an unsupported expedition of your own, you are most likely going to be crossing through the Khumbu on trail broken and established by other teams' Sherpas earlier that season. [it all depends on the particular route, of course] |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:35:04 AM EDT
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I've been in that area and I've done a little bit of climbing. People climb because they think it's fun. It can be an obsession, like being in love.
It has nothing to do with impressing your friends. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:37:40 AM EDT
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Wonder what climbing Everest costs? In dollars, several pay with their lives. Plus you have to be able to not work for months at a time. Cost to climb it |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:37:52 AM EDT
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Hillary AND Tenzing Norgay were the first to summit Everest. [and make it back down - L_JE] Quote HistoryQuoted:
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RIP
Just a question as I know nothing about climbing- Did the original climbers use these "sherpas"? If not, when did they become common? Hillary AND Tenzing Norgay were the first to summit Everest. [and make it back down - L_JE] FIFY, and added additional emphasis to your emphasis, because I liked your emphasis. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:38:35 AM EDT
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Hillary AND Tenzing Norgay were the first to summit Everest. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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RIP
Just a question as I know nothing about climbing- Did the original climbers use these "sherpas"? If not, when did they become common? Hillary AND Tenzing Norgay were the first to summit Everest. moer accurately, they were the first to live to tell about it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:44:32 AM EDT
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http://www.usaf7summits.com/ That's kickass. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:46:23 AM EDT
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Really? Is there anything that woman can't do???
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RIP
Just a question as I know nothing about climbing- Did the original climbers use these "sherpas"? If not, when did they become common? Hillary AND Tenzing Norgay were the first to summit Everest. Really? Is there anything that woman can't do???
Now that made me laugh. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:46:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Also, I noticed the "I'm so fucking tough, other people died and I don't give a fuck because I think the things other people enjoy are stupid, but everything I do, of course, is righteous" people are both from places that don't have mountains. I wonder if either of you have ever climbed a mountain, or understand that for many who climb, it's not a game or stupid, it's place where people find challenge and peace. But you're too badass to understand that... I did not say it was not a challenge. I did not put it down. I merely stated that the guys doing it are doing it for a challenge, to push themselves to the limit. The guides, and especially the Sherpa, are doing it to put food on the table. I have respect for the climbers, but I have more respect for those that fall in the line of work or duty. Keep digging http://www.usaf7summits.com Sorry did not look at your link |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:50:01 AM EDT
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Wonder what climbing Everest costs? In dollars, several pay with their lives. Plus you have to be able to not work for months at a time. Cost to climb it 11,000 just for the fee. Wow. So, what, maybe 25,000 for soup to nuts? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:54:17 AM EDT
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11,000 just for the fee. Wow. So, what, maybe 25,000 for soup to nuts? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wonder what climbing Everest costs? In dollars, several pay with their lives. Plus you have to be able to not work for months at a time. Cost to climb it 11,000 just for the fee. Wow. So, what, maybe 25,000 for soup to nuts? You also have to get there. They said $30,000 to $120,000 for the climb. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:56:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: meh...just sherpas. don't count. I'd be willing to bet the Sherpas are better people than a lot of guys on this board, including ones who laugh about people dying on a mountain. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:57:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Classy. I'd be willing to bet the Sherpas are better people than a lot of guys on this board, including ones who laugh about people dying on a mountain. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: meh...just sherpas. don't count. I'd be willing to bet the Sherpas are better people than a lot of guys on this board, including ones who laugh about people dying on a mountain.  Note the |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:59:18 AM EDT
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Darwin's theory at work again. When I was younger and working Iron, at least I was getting paid for it. As others have stated, I also feel sorry for the sherpas. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:00:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was joking Note the Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: meh...just sherpas. don't count. I'd be willing to bet the Sherpas are better people than a lot of guys on this board, including ones who laugh about people dying on a mountain. Note the ETA: GD is GD, but laughing about people dying while trying to earn a living makes you a real jerk, IMO. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:06:34 AM EDT
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I don't remember the details. There was an avalanche on Mt Rainier about 20 years ago. Killed several people. Climbing is fun, but inherently dangerous.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:28:18 AM EDT
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It's still a pretty rotten thing to say. ETA: GD is GD, but laughing about people dying while trying to earn a living makes you a real jerk, IMO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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meh...just sherpas. don't count. I'd be willing to bet the Sherpas are better people than a lot of guys on this board, including ones who laugh about people dying on a mountain. Note the ETA: GD is GD, but laughing about people dying while trying to earn a living makes you a real jerk, IMO. sarcasm.... google it. For many years after Hillary's ascent, the general public never gave the sherpa that accompanied him any credit for making the ascent with him. It was as if people only mentioned Neil Armstrong went to the moon first without recognizing Buzz Aldrin (or to a lesser extent Michael Collins). If Tenzing was a white dude, he might have been more well known at the time. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:46:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: sarcasm.... google it. For many years after Hillary's ascent, the general public never gave the sherpa that accompanied him any credit for making the ascent with him. It was as if people only mentioned Neil Armstrong went to the moon first without recognizing Buzz Aldrin (or to a lesser extent Michael Collins). If Tenzing was a white dude, he might have been more well known at the time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: meh...just sherpas. don't count. I'd be willing to bet the Sherpas are better people than a lot of guys on this board, including ones who laugh about people dying on a mountain. Note the ETA: GD is GD, but laughing about people dying while trying to earn a living makes you a real jerk, IMO. sarcasm.... google it. For many years after Hillary's ascent, the general public never gave the sherpa that accompanied him any credit for making the ascent with him. It was as if people only mentioned Neil Armstrong went to the moon first without recognizing Buzz Aldrin (or to a lesser extent Michael Collins). If Tenzing was a white dude, he might have been more well known at the time. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:58:12 AM EDT
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Wonder what climbing Everest costs? In dollars, several pay with their lives. Plus you have to be able to not work for months at a time. Cost to climb it 11,000 just for the fee. Wow. So, what, maybe 25,000 for soup to nuts? it was $50k 20 years ago. |
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