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Nahh, that can't be it ... your theory doesn't fit the rhetoric we're about to hear. It *must* be because they're scared of Muslims, not that American Muslims are notoriously "self contained" while American Christians, as a general rule, seem to think it's hunky dory to use the law and the public coffers to push their agenda of "good ideas" on others. Of course, this makes one wonder: If their ideas are so great, why do we have to make them legally mandatory or use public funds/lands/resources? That said, the whole affair is a bit silly. I dislike outspoken Atheists as much as I dislike anyone who uses their personal ideology or spirituality as a club to bludgeon the world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Confrontational people attack those with power. Muslims are like 1% of the American population and have little power to influence legislation or people's day to day lives. Christians do. Nahh, that can't be it ... your theory doesn't fit the rhetoric we're about to hear. It *must* be because they're scared of Muslims, not that American Muslims are notoriously "self contained" while American Christians, as a general rule, seem to think it's hunky dory to use the law and the public coffers to push their agenda of "good ideas" on others. Of course, this makes one wonder: If their ideas are so great, why do we have to make them legally mandatory or use public funds/lands/resources? That said, the whole affair is a bit silly. I dislike outspoken Atheists as much as I dislike anyone who uses their personal ideology or spirituality as a club to bludgeon the world. +1 Plus saying Atheists do this because of that is just as silly as saying White people do this because of that. Or all Jews do this because they blah blah. Atheists are people. Some atheists are lying, backstabbing jerks, just like some Christians. Oh and some of both groups are white, some are black, and some, shockingly I know, are asian!!!! See how silly it sounds when you apply it to a group you don't hate? Some atheists are idiots, and others just want to be left alone. |
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I'm guessing its because Islam is still a minority religion here and the atheists are going after bigger fish. If we had places in the US trying to impose sharia law I am thinking you'd see some pushback from atheists As one atheist replied to me in a Yahoo comments exchange to one news story, they don't see the radical Islamic movement as being an issue in the US In essence, it doesn't affect them personally the same way Christians trying to legislate morality are. View Quote Well, when Prop 8 passed in 2008 in CA, the gays protested the mormons but not the black churches that had a lot of turn out against against gay marriage. |
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Well, when Prop 8 passed in 2008 in CA, the gays protested the mormons but not the black churches that had a lot of turn out against against gay marriage. View Quote Every racist joke I have ever heard is swirling around in my brain, jockeying for position, shrieking to be let out. But no seriously, according to Pew in 2009, like 86% of Mormons are white. If you show up with an angry crowd around a black church, everybody present had better be black, or the media are going to be spinning up their "K-K-Gay?" graphics for the 7 o'clock news faster than you can say "Fuck Obama". The Mormons got massively more than their fair share of blame and ire for Prop 8, that is for fucking sure, and you can take it to the bank that it's got everything to do with racism. I don't even mean that in a "oh, white people have it so bad" kind of way, I mean it in the condescending, smarmy white-man's-burden liberal "well they just don't know any better" kind of way. |
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You haven't watched or read any Christopher Hitchens, have you?
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The hell it ain't. Their proseletizing is the demand to submit or die. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why? Because proselytism isn't a fundamental part of islam like it is in christianity. Frankly, proseltyizers can be pretty annoying after a while. The hell it ain't. Their proseletizing is the demand to submit or die. Don't really see a lot of American Muslims out slaughtering the infidels. Hell, you don't really see it as a common theme in Muslims around the world. Think about it for a second. If even a tiny percentage of Muslims worldwide felt that way, let's say one percent, the world would be faced with an army of about 16,600,000 people. Not many fewer than the personnel of every standing army on the face of the Earth COMBINED (around 20 million, total, this number includes Muslim armies as well so, shit gets a bit murky). If just one percent of Muslims were *actually* hell-bent on domination through violence, we'd all be praying to Mecca by now. Fuck, two guys with an AR15 and a sedan shut down 3 fucking states for a week a few years back (DC snipers) .... Reality doesn't seem to match the fears and rhetoric of the folks around here. |
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Every racist joke I have ever heard is swirling around in my brain, jockeying for position, shrieking to be let out. But no seriously, according to Pew in 2009, like 86% of Mormons are white. If you show up with an angry crowd around a black church, everybody present had better be black, or the media are going to be spinning up their "K-K-Gay?" graphics for the 7 o'clock news faster than you can say "Fuck Obama". The Mormons got massively more than their fair share of blame and ire for Prop 8, that is for fucking sure, and you can take it to the bank that it's got everything to do with racism. I don't even mean that in a "oh, white people have it so bad" kind of way, I mean it in the condescending, smarmy white-man's-burden liberal "well they just don't know any better" kind of way. View Quote I think basically it is because the left has identified its enemy, and that is conservatives. It isn't simply that the left is afraid of Muslims. It is true many on the left enjoy the feeling of "standing up for social justice" and against "tyranny", and they prefer to do so in safety and comfort. But it is basically that they have identified their enemy, and Islam is their ally. You can see this in Zombie's photos from San Francisco area protests. Atheism, gay marriage, and abortion are just hammers to use against conservatives. Protesting black churches wouldn't make sense, because the protests were attacks on conservatives, and gay marriage was not the real goal. Same with issues like late term abortion. Or some cross that was put on a hill after WW1 or WW2. FWIW, I'm not a socialcon. I'm not religious. I actually voted against prop 8. But more and more what I see is that the left is managing the battlespace. The issues they push are part of that management. They use those issues to distract from issues of substance, fire up the base, influence swing voters, and go after various "sorta libertarian" voters like young techies. |
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The hell it ain't. Their proseletizing is the demand to submit or die. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why? Because proselytism isn't a fundamental part of islam like it is in christianity. Frankly, proseltyizers can be pretty annoying after a while. The hell it ain't. Their proseletizing is the demand to submit or die. There's a tiny amount of truth to your comment. Islam - Muslim - Taslim. Do you see a pattern in those words? The triconsonantal root, S-L-M, carries the meaning of submission. In the case of Islam, submission to God. But that's besides the point. They dont proselytize. Ever had a muslim strike up conversation about the prophet and his message? Obviously not. I may be a bad christian, but I dont care. The way we're taught to proselytize does more harm than good. If anything, it desensitizes people to christianity and even when theyre provided with a good message, they turn their ears off because they've heard it all before. Proselytize through your deeds alone and I believe you'll have greater success. But like I said, im a bad christian. |
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Don't really see a lot of American Muslims out slaughtering the infidels. Hell, you don't really see it as a common theme in Muslims around the world. Think about it for a second. If even a tiny percentage of Muslims worldwide felt that way, let's say one percent, the world would be faced with an army of about 16,600,000 people. Not many fewer than the personnel of every standing army on the face of the Earth COMBINED (around 20 million, total, this number includes Muslim armies as well so, shit gets a bit murky). If just one percent of Muslims were *actually* hell-bent on domination through violence, we'd all be praying to Mecca by now. Fuck, two guys with an AR15 and a sedan shut down 3 fucking states for a week a few years back (DC snipers) .... Reality doesn't seem to match the fears and rhetoric of the folks around here. View Quote The critical thing left out in your analysis is how fast these 17M Muslims came to such a decision. If they all woke up in the morning and acted as one, yeah, it would be hard to stop. In a more realistic situation with a slower rise time (giving the West time to react) the results would end up very, very bad for the Muslims. The elephant in the room for the past several hundred years has been Western dominance. There has really been no point where Muslims could have taken on the West. As far as the DC snipers, their success was very much the result of our safe, peacetime society. It is an extrapolation that doesn't make sense. |
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They are really tough on Christians, will attack them in any manner--by billboard, in the courts, online..... But I have never seen them "smart ass" with the Muslims. Are they simply cowards? Not wanting to live like Salaaman Rushdie for the rest of their lives? View Quote A lot of it is cowardice, some of it is straight up stupidity, but most of it is simple racism and arrogance. When you say "confrontational atheists", you're really just talking about lefties. They don't see muslims as a real threat - they don't take them seriously, because many white coastal lefties are some of the most racist, self-centered fucks you will ever meet. It's kind of ironic; the lefties think they can play along with the muslims, and that both groups will benefit in their own little fiefdom. Meanwhile the muslims simply wait until the knives can come out. It's the same mistake the GOP establishment makes in dealing with the same lefties, who themselves are waiting to drop the hammer on their opponents. We're not all praying to mecca right now for the same reason that we're not all carrying around little red booklets and calling each other "comrade" - because both islam and socialism/communism create dysfunctional societies. Muslims don't spend much time peacefully converting; they inherently attract young hooligans, then exert pressure through taxes and public policy, and then - when they feel they have the upper hand - the killing starts. Their success is due in a large part to having a well practiced blueprint for doing that sort of thing. |
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They are really tough on Christians, will attack them in any manner--by billboard, in the courts, online..... But I have never seen them "smart ass" with the Muslims. Are they simply cowards? Not wanting to live like Salaaman Rushdie for the rest of their lives? If people want to be atheists Christians, it's their business but I have noticed a certain number of them delight in confrontations with Christians Atheists but I certainly don't see that same ardor for pissing off Muslims-of which there are plenty in this world. You want to show how hardcore your beliefs are? Go put up a billboard or hold up some signs outside a Mosque.....in Pakistan... View Quote |
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As much as muslims hate America and Christians, and the kind of liars that they are, it makes perfect sense for some of them to lead the waves of attacks on Christianity and Patriotism by pretending to be atheists and liberals. It provides the perfect cover.
Some of them at the same time pretend to be conservatives to do the same to the liberals. Guess who gains the upper hand if Americans were divided and fighting each other, instead of uniting against the one true enemy who wants us all dead, enslaved, paying extra taxes to be tolrated, or "changed" to their ways. There is one test that reveals such traitors, and that is to question their stance on Islam. |
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As much as muslims hate America and Christians, and the kind of liars that they are, it makes perfect sense for some of them to lead the waves of attacks on Christianity and Patriotism by pretending to be atheists and liberals. It provides the perfect cover. Some of them at the same time pretend to be conservatives to do the same to the liberals. Guess who gains the upper hand if Americans were divided and fighting each other, instead of uniting against the one true enemy who wants us all dead, enslaved, paying extra taxes to be tolrated, or "changed" to their ways. There is one test that reveals such traitors, and that is to question their stance on Islam. View Quote I feel all religion should be gone, but Islam needs to go first and foremost. Islam is the unenlightened version of Christianity, but doesn't show any sign of wanting to moving forward. |
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For the same reason that PETA chooses to throw red paint on fur wearing women rather than leather wearing bikers. |
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Only coward progressive liberal FSA type Atheists attack only Christianity and not Islam. True Atheists denounce all religion and wish to be left alone.
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Democrat activists know if they undermine one leg of the GOP, they win. Muslims are not a threat to dem power and are being recruited as another D base coalition with Brady, NOW, code pink, naral, FSA and LGBTQ base.
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Quoted: Eerie. Isn't it? That first mutha fuckin' post. Every damn time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Because Muslims would behead the Atheists. Eerie. Isn't it? That first mutha fuckin' post. Every damn time. Except mine. It's rare that I get the first, but when I do, they suck. |
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Except mine. It's rare that I get the first, but when I do, they suck. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Because Muslims would behead the Atheists. Eerie. Isn't it? That first mutha fuckin' post. Every damn time. Except mine. It's rare that I get the first, but when I do, they suck. Me too. |
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Well probably because Christianity is the dominant religion here.
Why would they focus on a religion that has so few members here in the states. Are you talking about going abroad and starting confrontations? I guess I am just missing the point of your post Maybe you have never driven through Florida before but those "Christian" billboards can be pretty offending and confrontational as well. Just my observation. |
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Why do confrontational Atheists Christians not attack Muslims?
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As an atheist, I know like a dozen or two muslims and that's only because I work with foreign doctors.
The number of Christians I've met is exponentially greater. I'm not confrontational but thought I'd point that out. |
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Simple: Because they're pussies and mooslims would keel them...
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Obama and Bill Maher told their internet aclu social progressive militant atheist community organizers to attack "Bible and gun clingers" for dope and chains
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Obama and Bill Maher told their internet aclu social progressive militant atheist community organizers to attack "Bible and gun clingers" for dope and chains View Quote And some mythical guy in the sky who needs money told people his way was the only way or they will be damned to eternal despair. |
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Why do confrontational Atheists not attack Muslims? View Quote It's pretty obvious, isn't it? Muslims would probably kill them. Christian's are the soft-white under-belly for Atheists hateful intolerance because they were indoctrinated into that belief system by the media. The media wants to eradicate Christianity for the sole reason of homosexuality acceptance. Christianity offers a framework of acceptable moral behavior that makes homosexuals feel bad about their unhealthy lifestyles. Modern atheists have been taught their whole life by movies, tv, music, public school teachers, and college that it was acceptable to hate Christians. Rarely will you ever see a positive portrayal of a Christian from Hollywood. It's almost against the law. Christians are usually the bumbling, enemy in the plot. They were also taught by the left that it's not politically correct to attack Hindus, Buddhists, or any other non-Christian world religion. It's pretty funny that the modern atheists philosophy is that Christians are backward dopes when they fail to acknowledge they were brainwashed their whole lives by the left into that view. Jody Eldred is an Emmy-Award-winning producer-director. He said,
"Did you know that nine out of ten Hollywood films lose money? Did you know that the vast majority of new television shows are cancelled because no one is watching them? Do you wonder why?" The obvious answer, says Eldred, is "because they're mostly awful." But why are they awful? "Because," notes Eldred, "the people creating them are completely out of touch with the people they are creating them for! Their worldview is vastly different from the worldview of most Americans. We have a largely Christian nation, but Hollywood is largely un-Christian, and in many if not most cases, anti-Christian. They're not just out of touch. They're against you![5]" View Quote |
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It's pretty obvious, isn't it? Muslims would probably kill them. And Christians don't kill or are hateful against non-believers? 16 year old Christian Boy kills Atheist Christian's are the soft-white under-belly for Atheists hateful intolerance because they were indoctrinated into that belief system by the media. The hateful bible thumping Christians were indoctrinated by their parents and churches to believe in the writings put together by man. Blindly believing in the teachings and bible much like Islam madrassa. The media wants to eradicate Christianity for the sole reason of homosexuality acceptance. Christianity offers a framework of acceptable moral behavior that makes homosexuals feel bad about their unhealthy lifestyles. Christianity wants to control everything including cramming religion down people's throats. How does a homosexual threaten your "saved" soul? Modern atheists have been taught their whole life by movies, tv, music, public school teachers, and college that it was acceptable to hate Christians. I don't hate Christians. I just wish they would stop preaching to me. I don't need religion to live a morale or respectful life. They were also taught by the left that it's not politically correct to attack Hindus, Buddhists, or any other non-Christian world religion. I won't attack any religion unless they attack me. The reason we don't attack Buddhists is because Buddhists don't go door to door cramming religion down people's throats. It's pretty funny that the modern atheists philosophy is that Christians are backward dopes when they fail to acknowledge they were brainwashed their whole lives by the left into that view. Or it could be by personal experience. Seeing first hand the complete hypocrisy and judgemental nature of a family member all in the name of religion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Why do confrontational Atheists not attack Muslims? It's pretty obvious, isn't it? Muslims would probably kill them. And Christians don't kill or are hateful against non-believers? 16 year old Christian Boy kills Atheist Christian's are the soft-white under-belly for Atheists hateful intolerance because they were indoctrinated into that belief system by the media. The hateful bible thumping Christians were indoctrinated by their parents and churches to believe in the writings put together by man. Blindly believing in the teachings and bible much like Islam madrassa. The media wants to eradicate Christianity for the sole reason of homosexuality acceptance. Christianity offers a framework of acceptable moral behavior that makes homosexuals feel bad about their unhealthy lifestyles. Christianity wants to control everything including cramming religion down people's throats. How does a homosexual threaten your "saved" soul? Modern atheists have been taught their whole life by movies, tv, music, public school teachers, and college that it was acceptable to hate Christians. I don't hate Christians. I just wish they would stop preaching to me. I don't need religion to live a morale or respectful life. They were also taught by the left that it's not politically correct to attack Hindus, Buddhists, or any other non-Christian world religion. I won't attack any religion unless they attack me. The reason we don't attack Buddhists is because Buddhists don't go door to door cramming religion down people's throats. It's pretty funny that the modern atheists philosophy is that Christians are backward dopes when they fail to acknowledge they were brainwashed their whole lives by the left into that view. Or it could be by personal experience. Seeing first hand the complete hypocrisy and judgemental nature of a family member all in the name of religion. |
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The angry ones are angry at a Church and a God that they somehow believe has caused them harm. The angry ones are more anti-Christ than anti-religion. There's a huge difference. We have a few of them on GD. And we have a few non-believers who are just simply that, non-believers.
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Or it could be by personal experience. Seeing first hand the complete hypocrisy and judgemental nature of a family member all in the name of religion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Or it could be by personal experience. Seeing first hand the complete hypocrisy and judgemental nature of a family member all in the name of religion. You proved my point. Your motivation is that you don't want your behavior judged by system of morality so you rebel against the system. As an American, you can believe whatever you want, bro. I don't care if you believe or don't believe. I am just telling you that your atheist religion is a religion and it was brought to you by the left. Most atheists don't realize they were brainwashed by the left. In the Large Soviet Encyclopedia, second edition, volume 5, (published 1950), the Word "God" is defined as "A mythical invented "being." V. I. Lenin said, "Atheism is a material and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific Socialism." Lenin also said: "Whatever helps the world Communist revolution is good; whatever hinders it is bad. Religion, through its insistence upon individual responsibility to the Creator of all things, interferes with the advance of world collectivism. It is, therefore, irredeemably evil." Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks. 21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. 26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy." 27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch." |
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Quoted: Confrontational people attack those with power. Muslims are like 1% of the American population and have little power to influence legislation or people's day to day lives. Christians do. View Quote They attack the weakest points. Christianity is held in suspicions at best, active contempt at worst by all of our governmental, media and academic institutions. They are going after low hanging fruit to deliver the coup de grace to any christian influence in our society. Muslims are avoided because they will fight back and kill their enemies if necessary. Even if those enemies are only rhetorical. |
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Quoted: for all the "they're afraid of muslims bullshit" View Quote of the top 6000 things I'm worried about here are the last 3 things on my list 5998 Christians will persecute me. 5999 Muslims will persecute me. 6000 Zombie Apocalypse Neither is ever really going to happen, but Christians at least have the numbers to do something if they should ever get the urge. Muslims don't. I'm far more likely to be affected by bullshit religious legislation enacted by a Christian, which to me isn't the same thing as persecution. The "urge" to act against you isn't going to come through government institutions when Christians are concerned. |
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You proved my point. Your motivation is that you don't want your behavior judged by system of morality so you rebel against the system. As an American, you can believe whatever you want, bro. I don't care if you believe or don't believe. I am just telling you that your atheist religion is a religion and it was brought to you by the left. Most atheists don't realize they were brainwashed by the left. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Or it could be by personal experience. Seeing first hand the complete hypocrisy and judgemental nature of a family member all in the name of religion. You proved my point. Your motivation is that you don't want your behavior judged by system of morality so you rebel against the system. As an American, you can believe whatever you want, bro. I don't care if you believe or don't believe. I am just telling you that your atheist religion is a religion and it was brought to you by the left. Most atheists don't realize they were brainwashed by the left. You are right I don't want to be judged by hypocrites. A system of morality? More like a system of brainwashed drones believing in a work of fiction. People who follow a religion having to place praise/blame on an external entity for the good/bad experiences of their life are so mentally inept they can't take ownership that their current lot/position in life is due to their own decisions and not the outcome of some external force. |
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Quoted: Yeah like this type of pacifist you mean? http://europeanhistory.boisestate.edu/images/people/godfreybouillon.gif View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They don't want to get their heads cut off. Christians are too pacifist and athiests know it. Yeah like this type of pacifist you mean? http://europeanhistory.boisestate.edu/images/people/godfreybouillon.gif So, Christendom's first encounter with Islam was Islamic invasion. Not the other way around. |
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They don't want to get their heads cut off. Christians are too pacifist and athiests know it. Yeah like this type of pacifist you mean? http://europeanhistory.boisestate.edu/images/people/godfreybouillon.gif So, Christendom's first encounter with Islam was Islamic invasion. Not the other way around. Spanish Inquisition? |
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because muslims tend to kill people, much safer to attack a religion based on peace love and turning the other cheek...
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