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Posted: 4/17/2014 12:49:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Afternoon bump.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 12:52:48 PM EDT
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Bombers?
Yeah, the readiness on the army's horses have dropped, too. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 1:07:23 PM EDT
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Wasn't the B52 developed and put into service in a span of 12-18 months? And the basic design was worked up in a hotel room over a weekend?
How far we have fallen to be stuck with boondoggles like the F35... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 1:14:35 PM EDT
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I believe some B-52 airframes will be almost 100 years old by their scheduled retirement.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:32:49 AM EDT
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It's just a testament to the saying that they just don't build em like they used to anymore.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:40:19 AM EDT
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If only there was an intermediate bomber that was more capable of CAS.
We could call it the F-110....or maybe the F-112.........what do you guys think? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:16:07 AM EDT
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If only there was an intermediate bomber that was more capable of CAS. We could call it the F-110....or maybe the F-112.........what do you guys think? dear god no. And, for what its worth, the AF identified the F111 as a CAS aircraft (along with everything else) |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:15:23 AM EDT
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dear god no. And, for what its worth, the AF identified the F111 as a CAS aircraft (along with everything else) Not entirely true. The AF originally wanted an attack plane to replace some of the Century Series. The Navy wanted a LR long loiter missile carrier. McNamara decided to combine the two requirements into one plane and wanted it to do CAS for the Army and USMC as well, all in the name of "reducing costs". http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/f111_1.html FYI, this guy's site has great info available on a lot of military aircraft: USAAC/USAF fighters - http://www.joebaugher.com/oldseriesfighters.html USN/USMC fighters - http://www.joebaugher.com/usnavyfighters.html USAAC attack aircraft - http://www.joebaugher.com/usattack/attackaircraft.html USN/USMC attack aircraft - http://www.joebaugher.com/usattack/usnavyattack.html USAAC/USAF Bombers (1st series) - http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/firstseriesbombers.html USAAC/USAF Bombers (2nd series) - http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/secondseriesbombers.html USAAC/USAF Bombers (3rd series) - http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/thirdseriesbombers.html USAF Bombers (4th series) - http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/fourthseriesbombers.html |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:26:00 AM EDT
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AF determined the F111 was the best CAS aircraft with the F4 able to substitute until it was delivered. The F111 would meet or exceed all the criteria for a CAS aircraft in 1963 reference Help From Above AF CAS of the Army, John Schlight, US Government Printing Office, Washington DC 2003 Maxwell document. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:38:18 AM EDT
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B-52's - You can throw up in the same aircraft your grandfather threw up in!
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:38:28 AM EDT
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reference Help From Above AF CAS of the Army, John Schlight, US Government Printing Office, Washington DC 2003 Maxwell document. Quote HistoryQuoted:
AF determined the F111 was the best CAS aircraft with the F4 able to substitute until it was delivered. The F111 would meet or exceed all the criteria for a CAS aircraft in 1963 reference Help From Above AF CAS of the Army, John Schlight, US Government Printing Office, Washington DC 2003 Maxwell document. What you posted is true, but the starting force of the F-111 as CAS was still McNamara in 1961. By 1963 the plane was a funded R&D a/c development with DOD promise of "doing everything" so of course the AF would say its the best a/c available for whatever mission DOD wants. Prior to the F-111 the AF had several major acquisitions cut (F-108 Rapier and XB-70). The F-111 and C-141 were to my knowledge the only AF a/c in the R&D cycle (fully backed by DOD) in the early 1960's. By the mid-60's we were in Vietnam painfully learning lessons and fearing the MiG-25 menace, which caused much of the design/development of the F-15, 16, 18 (in the form of the original F-17), A-7, and A-10. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:48:10 AM EDT
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Bombers? Yeah, the readiness on the army's horses have dropped, too. 
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:01:43 AM EDT
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I believe some B-52 airframes will be almost 100 years old by their scheduled retirement. naw they ones flying now are from the early 60s |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:17:07 AM EDT
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Must be a budget bill up in Congress.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:21:20 AM EDT
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Obama will chop up the bombers to appease Putin and we will subcontract everything else to the Chinese. More money for hope and change!
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